The Shadow Lurkers!

[Carl M]

What Lurks in the hearts of young men- The Shadow knows! I might take some hits on this thread, buts thats OK! The hobbiests that openly post on UG who are Silver and high level Bronze are the Pointmen for other lower level bottom feeding scum sucking pigs, thats right my comrades in arms! The majority of lurkers are most probably good people, but there are a small minority out there that take the fruits of our hard labor and occassionally we take some hits for this! What is to say we put a glorious post on a provide, a lurkerwho never posts uses our name as a referrral then sees the provider- then the provider and the lurker do not hit it off- what happens to the pointman? We take the hit!! This is not right!! My suggestion and I would like to hear some comments, is The board mod issue a statement whereby starting today anyone who logs into UG must make at least 1 post a week or will be banned from UG(Or something equivalent). This might minimize what these vultures do, then at least we have a name to defend ourselves! Yes Im pissed because I have been torched at least 2-3x. Some of my brothers out there might have been burned too and you do not know it!

[TuckernotSucker]

Who are these guys, post their handles. and the stories.

[P.J ORourke]

So let me get this straight. You want more senseless drivel posted on this board?

[Carl M]

Tucker- got information from a reliable source who would not tell me their email adresses- believe me if I knew I would post these pricks right now!

P.J ORourke- I do not want drivel posted, but I want these losers to be able be seen and not bleed from us!!

[thelastone]

Originally posted by Carl M
(snip) The hobbiests that openly post on UG who are Silver and high level Bronze are the Pointmen for other lower level bottom feeding scum sucking pigs, thats right my comrades in arms! The majority of lurkers are most probably good people, but there are a small minority out there that take the fruits of our hard labor and occassionally we take some hits for this!

I think the point to stress here is that the majority of lurkers are what you said, decent folk. I myself have been reading this rather entertaining and informative board for the past month. I have not yet entered the "hobby", I prefer to educate myself before plunging head first (no pun intended) into an activity that might get me arrested. HOWEVER, when I do decide to take that fateful first step, I most certainly would not use any of your names in order to get "an in" with any certain provider. In this world, you should be able to provide your own sources of information that will prove you are a "legitimate" client. I am sure most lurkers out there would do the same.
With that being said, to address that small percentage that would "take advantage" of your good name, if a new client calls up a provider and then uses your name, I would hope that said provider would verify this connection. i.e. email your ass to make sure you know this guy. Any provider that does not do this would surely be testing her luck. LE can read this board and drop names just as well as anyone else.


(snip) suggestion and I would like to hear some comments, is The board mod issue a statement whereby starting today anyone who logs into UG must make at least 1 post a week or will be banned from UG(Or something equivalent). This might minimize what these vultures do, then at least we have a name to defend ourselves! Yes Im pissed because I have been torched at least 2-3x. Some of my brothers out there might have been burned too and you do not know it!

I don't see how this would solve your problem. Banning people from reading or contributing because of frequency or lack of, would only allow current users of this board access. It certainly would no longer be a place for information sharing but more of an elitist club. While I have no problem with that, it should then be moved to a more private site. Since the registration is open to all, I am assuming this is not the purpose.
An alternative solution, which would be more feasible, would be to notify the provider that you are posting a review (which should always be done no matter) and that if anyone should contact her, using your name from the board, she should drop you an email to be sure. If the provider is interested in her longevity in this business, I am sure she will have no problem doing this if she isn't already.

Just my 2 pesos worth

last

[thevenerablebede]

Originally posted by Carl M
The board mod issue a statement whereby starting today anyone who logs into UG must make at least 1 post a week or will be banned from UG(Or something equivalent).

really? what a pain for slinkybender. most newsgroups and the like actually encourage lurking before making a first post. this is done so that newbies can understand the tone of a particular board and not ask questions that have been asked and answered ad infinitum (what providers offer anal, where can i get a bbbj, etc). besides, i happen to have a real life myself. some of us have interests other than the "hobby." some of us on this board even travel outside of the boros. i'm in europe on business but i have to worry about making a post so i don't get banned? personally, i post when i think i might have something relevant to say. as it is, there are already too many secret handshakes on this board (imo).

[rogue]

Men-if we see a provider..let's say the soon to be gone Shauna(has she left yet?)..we tell her anybody we refer to her,they will have a code,(my other name)or something to verify that we the refer'ers..and the provider- can trust or verify the quality(to some degree) of the people we are sending to them..still has holes in it,but better then what Carl has to deal with-or any of us when it comes to trust,our favorite providers,reputations and security-mental,physical,spiritual and legal...

[Carl M]

Originally posted by thevenerablebede
Originally posted by Carl M
The board mod issue a statement whereby starting today anyone who logs into UG must make at least 1 post a week or will be banned from UG(Or something equivalent).

really? what a pain for slinkybender. most newsgroups and the like actually encourage lurking before making a first post. this is done so that newbies can understand the tone of a particular board and not ask questions that have been asked and answered ad infinitum (what providers offer anal, where can i get a bbbj, etc). besides, i happen to have a real life myself. some of us have interests other than the "hobby." some of us on this board even travel outside of the boros. i'm in europe on business but i have to worry about making a post so i don't get banned? personally, i post when i think i might have something relevant to say. as it is, there are already too many secret handshakes on this board (imo).

That was just an example- a modification could be 4 posts in 1 month- which means you could load them up in 1 week, before you go away!

[Carl M]

I think the point to stress here is that the majority of lurkers are what you said, decent folk. I myself have been reading this rather entertaining and informative board for the past month. I have not yet entered the "hobby", I prefer to educate myself before plunging head first (no pun intended) into an activity that might get me arrested. HOWEVER, when I do decide to take that fateful first step, I most certainly would not use any of your names in order to get "an in" with any certain provider. In this world, you should be able to provide your own sources of information that will prove you are a "legitimate" client. I am sure most lurkers out there would do the same.
With that being said, to address that small percentage that would "take advantage" of your good name, if a new client calls up a provider and then uses your name, I would hope that said provider would verify this connection. i.e. email your ass to make sure you know this guy. Any provider that does not do this would surely be testing her luck. LE can read this board and drop names just as well as anyone else.



I don't see how this would solve your problem. Banning people from reading or contributing because of frequency or lack of, would only allow current users of this board access. It certainly would no longer be a place for information sharing but more of an elitist club. While I have no problem with that, it should then be moved to a more private site. Since the registration is open to all, I am assuming this is not the purpose.
An alternative solution, which would be more feasible, would be to notify the provider that you are posting a review (which should always be done no matter) and that if anyone should contact her, using your name from the board, she should drop you an email to be sure. If the provider is interested in her longevity in this business, I am sure she will have no problem doing this if she isn't already.

Just my 2 pesos worth

Emailing by the board mod to all lurkers giving proper warning is sufficient, also any new members coming in would be notified of the current policy in force!
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[wsb]

FWIW, I thought the posts by the venerablebede (big ditto on the secret handshake point) and thelastone were excellent.

CarlM --

Since it seems to be undisputed that you promote certain providers, I find your suggestion laughable. To put it as kindly as possible, if you are going to continue with your over-the-top style of promotion, I think you have to be willing to accept the fact that some people are going to feel mislead.

I certainly hope SB rejects your ridiculous suggestion.

--WSB

[Carl M]

Originally posted by wsb
FWIW, I thought the posts by the venerablebede (big ditto on the secret handshake point) and thelastone were excellent.

CarlM --

Since it seems to be undisputed that you promote certain providers, I find your suggestion laughable. To put it as kindly as possible, if you are going to continue with your over-the-top style of promotion, I think you have to be willing to accept the fact that some people are going to feel mislead.

I certainly hope SB rejects your ridiculous suggestion.

--WSB

Bro this has absolutely nothing to do with misleading people- did you carefully read my post- I do not think so! What I am saying is these shadow people take what we give them and return nothing! Is that clear enough for you!

[wsb]

No Carl, you said:

"...What is to say we put a glorious post on a provide, a lurkerwho never posts uses our name as a referrral then sees the provider- then the provider and the lurker do not hit it off- what happens to the pointman? We take the hit!!..."

While I do find your logic a bit murky, you clearly seem to be describing a situation where someone sees a provider on the recommendation of a UG contributor, who has posted some info on that particular lady for the public to view on UG, and then for whatever reason that individual doesn't have a good experience with said provider and subsequently blames the UG contributor who originally made the recommendation.

Your suggestion is to effectively ban "lurkers" from the board as you posit that this will prevent the foregoing from occurring in the future.

In response to your [ridiculous] suggestion, I am simply suggesting that if you post recommendations on such a board, you have to be willing to take a certain amount of heat. Moreover, if you post misleading information or leave out significant details (especially concerning a provider's appearance), then you certainly shouldn't be offered any sort of protection. In my view you deserve what you get.

Clear enough for you "bro"??????

--WSB

[Slinky Bender]

It's funny how I misread things. I thought CarlM was talking about backlash from the provider.

[wsb]

I don't think you misread it. I think the original post was sufficiently vague that it could be construed either way. At any rate, I don't see how banning "lurkers" solves either problem. Besides, why would a public site w/ banner adverts want to ban any potential traffic???

It seems to me that this is sort of a self-policing issue. If you post info that you believe to be accurate, then that's the best you can do and if someone wants to give you flack when you've done your best then you can decide how to best deal with that person or simply ignore them. However, if you post misleading info then I think you have to live with the consequences. If a provider gives someone who posted a positive review flack b/c she didn't like one of the clients who read the review and contacted her then...well, that just doesn't make sense???

--WSB

[Hotpuppy]

Carl,
Serious question: why do you address people as "Bro"? Not only did it go out in the seventies, but it holds even less power than "dude". When I see "bro" at the begining of any post, I stop reading. I apologize if this seems like a slam, or whatever, but I think Im not alone in this one.
take care hp


[Edited by Hotpuppy on 05-14-2001 at 05:20 PM]

[jmcurry]

WSB: If someone posts a review on this board, which you subsequently find contrary to your own experience, you might not want to jump to any conclusion. We all have vastly different experiences with providers. CarlM can post whatever he likes regarding his experiences. If you visit the same providers and end up disagreeing with his evaluation, that is your call. Post a response, based on your own session. That will certainly enrich the board for all of us.

Lurkers should always be welcome. They are potential contributors, and they keep the hobby alive.

SB: I agree. I thought this thread was about the backlash from providers!! I really need a vacation

[wsb]

jmcurry --

I believe your point is consistent w/ my position. You may wish to reread the entire thread for clarity.

--WSB

[thelastone]

Originally posted by slinkybender
It's funny how I misread things. I thought CarlM was talking about backlash from the provider.

If the backlash is from the provider (which is the way I read it), then the provider should be more careful. As I am reading, there seems to be some providers with a rather complex verification system. I can't see why verifying a referral wouldn't be part of any provider's process.
I am certainly not saying that it should be the provider's responsiblity completely. If she is someone you have an afinity towards or are a regular of, then you as a client should inform her that a review will be posted, where it will posted, and the fact that people might call her due to that posting. In my book, I have to know someone very well before I would refer them, and I would make that clear to the provider herself, so that she may guard herself properly.

This was short, so this is just 1 pesos worth...

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[RoosterC74]

Carl,

When I first read your post on this thread it appeared to make sense to me. It sounded to me like you were trying to encourage people to join in the daily/weekly/ monthly discussions in UG. Additionally, it would encourage others to share ideas/thoughts that they have about providers and other interesting topics up for discussion. It continues to appear to be a fairly good idea to me.

As for the Bro-Thing, it is fine with me. As for me, it appears to be a word that you use, for someone that you believe shares some common ideas with you. No problem-on this end Carl. After all, your suggestions to me about our lovely Cecilia, and the Cajun Princess-Dawn certainly helped this Rooster out.

[Edited by RoosterC74 on 05-14-2001 at 07:13 PM]

[billy01866]

Seems to me that only a handful of guys actually post their experiences with providers. I do not post my experiences for a few reasons. One being I am not the most comfortable person in writing reviews and more importantly because providers seem to want to have a low profile. I have also been asked some pretty weird stuff by guys in looking for info about certain women. Considering I don't know 99% of the guys here from a hole in the wall, I prefer to keep my own anyonimity. As far as Carl posting favorable reviews to gain lower rates. My way of thinking says if the provider gave less than satisfactory service why would I go back? So I fail to see someone giving positive reviews for substandard service just to get a lower rate. We all have our favorites anyway so why all the flack? I am attempting to get a session with a very elusive yet stunning young woman and if and when I do and if I have permission I will give an overview of my experience. Good, bad, or indifferent. That's all I have to say about that.

[ew]

The risk you take is of your own choosing if you decide to be a high profile poster.

The women take the same risk without your help. At any rate, unless you want to call yourself a pre-screener how can you possibly vouch for an internet email or posting?

[Ozzy]

had quite a few drop my name with two different girls i posted about only on UG. none did anything bad but they said they were friends of mine........

now thats not nice.




while we're at it.....
one lurker who's still here, robbed a good friend of mine a month or so back and when i posted an open letter/threat to him here, he called and e-mailed her immediately to appologize.


WELL YOU STILL HAVEN'T MADE GOOD ON THAT 400 FUCKING DOLLARS YOU TOOK FROM HER COAT POCKET YOU PRICK!

now return it to that nice girl so i don't have drive up to a certain university in uptown manhattan and show you my tony sopprano impersonation.

[Edited by Ozzy on 05-15-2001 at 12:24 AM]

[Ozzy]

oh and for all you nervous lawyers out there.....


the above was not a threat of bodily harm......i really do, do a good tony sopprano. :cool:

[Casper]

Originally posted by Ozzy

now return it to that nice girl so i don't have drive up to a certain university in uptown manhattan and show you my tony sopprano impersonation.
[Edited by Ozzy on 05-15-2001 at 12:24 AM]

If you need a driver let me know. I got a few desolate places in Central Jersey we can bring the "package" to afterwards... lol

Peace out
C

[Bill Furniture]

Sooooooooo, the not-so-innocent "Friendly Ghost" shows his true colors. Now we know where his friends go between episodes of the cartoon. Taking them on a little trip to NJ, are you? Hmmmmmmmmm, it seems that Casper becomes a bit of a ghoul and devours his prey!

PS. This is just a joke on Casper's name, not an insult :)

[Carl M]

Originally posted by Ozzy
had quite a few drop my name with two different girls i posted about only on UG. none did anything bad but they said they were friends of mine........

now thats not nice.




while we're at it.....
one lurker who's still here, robbed a good friend of mine a month or so back and when i posted an open letter/threat to him here, he called and e-mailed her immediately to appologize.


WELL YOU STILL HAVEN'T MADE GOOD ON THAT 400 FUCKING DOLLARS YOU TOOK FROM HER COAT POCKET YOU PRICK!

now return it to that nice girl so i don't have drive up to a certain university in uptown manhattan and show you my tony sopprano impersonation.

[Edited by Ozzy on 05-15-2001 at 12:24 AM]

Excellent point Oswald! The example I gave was just one of many, what about a psycho lurker who reads our rave reviews and does not like them. Now this person wants to gain retribution-which has happened to me also- not a good thing!

Hotpuppy- Your a good man, but before you open your mouth about bro going out in the 70's do a search on a previous post about this! The word Brother means "Comrade in Arms", The brotherhood of Hobbiests and I will continue to treat this as such!!

[Paige]

This is not a war. It is also not a place where people should be required to post.
If people like just reading and browsing than what harm does it do? None. If you post a review and choose to promote or do over the top publicity and someone disagrees well than that's life you take the good with the bad. YMMV remember that and that applies to all reviews.I believe half of what I hear or read and all of what I see.
As Always JMO
Kiss
Kiss
Paige

[John Blackthorne]

And keep quiet otherwise.

That will not change.

JB

[Ozzy]

i have no problem with lurkers.....

they're probably the smartest ones here.....

just don't say that you're friends with someone when they have no idea who the fuck you are. these two girls both asked me if so and so was a good friend and i told them i never heard of them or their e-mail addy's. needless to say niether got to see those girls. just say nothing, you're better off.

[Carl M]

Originally posted by Paige
This is not a war. It is also not a place where people should be required to post.
If people like just reading and browsing than what harm does it do? None. If you post a review and choose to promote or do over the top publicity and someone disagrees well than that's life you take the good with the bad. YMMV remember that and that applies to all reviews.I believe half of what I hear or read and all of what I see.
As Always JMO
Kiss
Kiss
Paige


Please, Im not going to explain the definition of Comrade in Arms, this does not apply to a war my MOT sweet!

[Hotpuppy]

Originally posted by Carl M
Hotpuppy- Your a good man, but before you open your mouth about bro going out in the 70's do a search on a previous post about this! The word Brother means "Comrade in Arms", The brotherhood of Hobbiests and I will continue to treat this as such!!
Carl, you're a good man too- but Bro did go out in the 70's and brother seems to be a word that only WWF wrestlers use. A brotherhood is established by deeds not words. We hobbiests have a way to go before that happens. Keep up the good work!
take care hp

[Carl M]

OOPs I mean HP- justing kidding- seriously - Thanks !!

[thelastone]

Originally posted by Ozzy
i have no problem with lurkers.....

they're probably the smartest ones here.....

just don't say that you're friends with someone when they have no idea who the fuck you are. these two girls both asked me if so and so was a good friend and i told them i never heard of them or their e-mail addy's. needless to say niether got to see those girls. just say nothing, you're better off.

I would say this would be the best policy. As long as the ladies know how to keep in contact with you, then this should stop all that crap.

Carl:
As for the "Bro" stuff, what are we, the trend police? So what if the word went out in the 70s. Even if we were, aren't the 70s back in anyways? ... ;)

[Hotpuppy]

Originally posted by Carl M
OOPs I mean HP- justing kidding- seriously - Thanks !!

We're cool!
hp

[jmcurry]

WSB: I have reread the entire post "for clarity." Having done so, I would appreciate your input. What, exactly, is the issue? The metaphysical nuances of the discourse have obsfuscated clarity. I sincerely await your deconstruction. Seriously, it is difficult to follow the thread of this post.

[wsb]

OK, then just re-read my posts. I think they are pretty accurate.

--WSB

[Carl M]

Carl:
As for the "Bro" stuff, what are we, the trend police? So what if the word went out in the 70s. Even if we were, aren't the 70s back in anyways? ... ;)

I take this as positive imput LastOne- Thanks, did you get my stripclub info!

[Othello]

To my "good brothers in the quest", Carl and others:

I've been absent from the board these past several weeks( trying to "generate funds" to support my extracurricular endeavors). Please don't lock me out!

Let me share an interesting experience with you about "board participation". I had a business trip to San Diego recently and since I'm a shy, introverted fellow, I sought advice and guidance on this board and the "other board" regarding social interaction. I received lots of responses about traveling to Tijuana, Mexico! The only suggestion of real value came from this board! It's not my policy to discuss the graphic details of my experiences but, ... I heard "the sound of violins playing softly in the background", there was a "sparkle in my eyes", (I had to wear dark glasses to my business meeting!). Her "motivational skills" enabled me to present a confident, "cock-sure" deameaner to my business collegues the following day.

I find that this board requires a lot of "mental energy" if you desire to contribute "effective" posts. Let me take a moment to define effective (as I see it, YVMV (your view may vary)). Effective relates to a past experience, a suggestion or a particular perspective on an issue. I like to follow the adage that "if you don't have anything to meaningful to contribute, then stay silent!". This should not preclude me from listening or having access.

Let me conclude by saying that I seek to offend no one, I am only interested in sharing, when I have something to share. I really enjoy most of the dialogue that takes place on this board. It is informative. It is entertaining. Idle drivel and disparaging comments are kept to a minimum.

Best regards, Peace,

Othello

[Carl M]

Do not worry Othello you do not even come close to the pond scum that I was referring to!!

[justme]

I have no problem with lurkers.....
they're probably the smartest ones here.....

You know Oz, I think that we know for a fact that this is true.

CarlM - what kind of 'hit' do pointmen take? In particular, what negative backlash have you gotten from posting a review on board?

[Carl M]

A lurker used my name as a referral, saw somebody I know, they argued and I then had to defend myself for a referral I never made!

[Paige]

I thought long and hard about what I wanted to say reagrding lurkers, reviews and support of NR's.
First, no one should be required to post this would be a controlling sort of thing and in a free society it doesn't fly or play well to the public in general.
Reviews if u do them and people disagree it is their right to disagree doesn't mean u were wrong. It just means people who by nature are free thinkers and will determine what is right for them.
Not everyone in this world is gonna love what you love or what I love this doesn't make them the enemy or liars.
NR's many love her place and her level of service and rightfully so if they are happy isn't that what's important and she cannot please everyone nor should she try.
However, people are entitled to their opinion and not to have their opinion misinterpeted as was done a couple of days ago.
Some men love a ritzy place and maybe just maybe this gent wanted to talk, lots of guys like fine conversation. Is that wrong? No it is not wrong.
To come on a Board and tell others to go on another board and post something good about the place is like saying it needs help and that's not the case.
She does a fine Biz. You are only inflaming the issue by making it an even bigger one and taking what was said out of context. He didn't enjoy his experience and it was
"His experience" he is telling how he felt. No one has the right to negate his feelings.
So it isn't the Taj Mahal is this so bad that he said that.
He said the place was "beaten up" not dirty.
Others did agree with him and there were other people who didn't. He has every right to state how he feels and you have every right to state how u feel.
But to further call and I quote "Your Comrade in Arms" to add more to me this is uncalled for.
You speak alot here about how bad *** is .
However, I notice that when u want to do a rousing review you go there and sometimes here point is u do utilize the fact that board is well known.
If it is so much better here why bother?
I have seen you tell people "Welcome see I told you it's better here" is that right to do when u go back and then do reviews to drum up biz for a gal you like?
Just thought I'd kick a few things around and I truly hope this post stays up.
Too many are quick to critisize *** and people who have opinions that are different from their own.
I may not like things I see here or even on other Boards but I don't go around doing postings about it or tell my friends on the board in print "See it's better here"
If I have a gripe I will write the Moderator and handle it in an appropriate manner. I have learned alot in the past 9 months about these Boards and somethings are better left unsaid as I learned because we all make mistakes myself included.
Paige



[Edited by paige on 05-17-2001 at 09:37 AM]

[Carl M]

You better be a good little girl- I am going to take the high road here, sometimes its good not to go off in a tangent which you just did. I do not need to be patonized by you especially after what a couple of my buddies Lemur Rush and Billy G told me about you. However, since you are an MOT- Its your lucky day Im gonna give you a pass!

[thevenerablebede]

Originally posted by Carl M
You better be a good little girl- I am going to take the high road here, sometimes its good not to go off in a tangent which you just did. I do not need to be patonized by you especially after what a couple of my buddies Lemur Rush and Billy G told me about you. However, since you are an MOT- Its your lucky day Im gonna give you a pass!

i have read and re-read paige's post above and i can't find anything in it that is patronizing. it seemed pretty level headed to me. however, your response is clearly patronizing and filled with what seems to me to be a somewhat veiled threat. high road? hardly...

[wsb]

Big ditto to thevenerablebede's post above!!!

Is it now acceptable to openly threaten providers on this board???

Carl, I'll refrain from posting the dressing-down that I was going to give you in the interest of not violating the ethos of this board by personally attacking you. However, I sincerely hope that every provider and client on this and the other boards reads your post and gains some insight into exactly what a s#@!%*g you are.

--WSB

[Edited by wsb on 05-17-2001 at 03:18 PM]

[Carl M]

WSB- Go for it bro it will make me a better man!! I will say this before you jump to conclusions- its always best to know all the facts and you do not- do some investigative work!

[wsb]

I know a lot more than you think.

Perhaps you should consider changing your user name so you can shill with a personna that has more credibility than you currently do???

--WSB

[Paige]

Know what facts dear? I know Lemur we spoke online the other day I bet u don't know all the facts.
Billy G him I don't know . All I can say is that I have done nothing that I am afraid that u might say.
I am not one of these little women that will go away and hide in the shadows. I am entitled to my opinion here and anywhere.
Just who do u think u are with your condescending attitude and implied threats?
You are gonna give me a pass u chicken chit u threaten a woman.
Just when I thought u couldn't get any lower here u come.
Ya know what u aren't even worthy of a reply but just to let u know dear. You don't scare me. Say what u want . You have real credibility having never met me or even spoken to me on a phone u know me well huh.
Real well, u know all about me do ya now.
No matter what I ever said I have never threatened you and I like you hear plenty Carl.
So Babes, anytime u wanna in print go one for one I'm down cause u aint dealing with no Chick from the sticks.
I am from Brooklyn Babes always remember where u come from.
I'm thorugh with u.

[Carl M]

Have a nice day Paige!

[Edited by Carl M on 05-17-2001 at 04:24 PM]

[MJC185]

Please redeem yourself by saying that this was some twisted attempt at humor...

or that you smoked too much crack before posting that nonsense threat...

There is no place for that kind of unmitigated crap here.

MJC

[Hotpuppy]

Charming, Paige.
take care, hp

[RoosterC74]

Enough with this entire thread. I think what each of the posters needs to do is sit back and chill-out. There has to be something better to post on this board. The quality of this thread continues to go lower and lower. How about moving on?

[Slinky Bender]

You all know that I'm not big on closing threads or editing stuff, but this is about time for this shit to stop, so

KNOCK IT OFF

For anyone who thinks I'm talking about someone else, I'm talking about you.

[Edited by slinkybender on 05-17-2001 at 08:16 PM]

[RoosterC74]

Good timing! I am happy to see you attempt to put an end to this thing.

[NY Mod for TBD]

Good move -------- and I must say you have exercised considerable patience.

I am heading back to *** NY ..... been nice visiting. I shall re-name you 'Job'.....

I appreciate your 'welcome mat'....... Have a great weekend.

[Beth<3]

CarlM

I am going to take the high road here, sometimes its good not to go off in a tangent which you just did. I do not need to be patonized by you especially after what a couple of my buddies Lemur Rush and Billy G told me about you.

CarlM if you only knew how many people told me to stay as far away from you as possible you would be amazed, including some of those you have for-mentioned.
So for the sake of everyone, shut up bro you really get on my very last nerve.
Many, Many people have told me that you ALWAYS try and get a reduced rate or you send threatening emails saying your going to post a bad review about your experience. A pure example - ME!
Honestly, most people laugh when they hear your name, especially me.
Your credibility is worthless, at least to me and I am hoping to get the point across to those who do not know you for who and what you truly are?
Take care and have a Happy New Year.
The LI Bitch Beth or what ever you'd like to call me now! Thanks to people like the judge who have helped me to thicken my skin, towards cowards like yourself.
PS Why not start your own message board you can call it 'How to get a reduced rate and how to rip an escort apart.' Think about it, you will have many followers???????
PSS Who the heck made his reviews so reliable? I'd like a chat with you so you can get the real low down on Carl. XO

[RoosterC74]

I know that at times-I just do not get certain things very quickly. Where in the hell did this one come from? I thought this thread died back in May. I guess that I may have missed something-The Rooster must have been sleeping on this one.

[CajunDawn]

i have been lurking and watching this unravel what is going on and where will it go next? she ponders........ friends and enimies at each others throats....
dawn ( third person) is wondering what shall become of this board.... where is comaradery.. eww bad miss spell

[Beth<3]

QUOTE]Originally posted by CajunDawn
i have been lurking and watching this unravel what is going on and where will it go next? she ponders........ friends and enemies at each others throats....
dawn (third person) is wondering what shall become of this board.... where is commradary.. eww bad miss spell [/QUOTE]

Dawn,
Honey you totally are miss understanding me. I have no comrades ask anyone I associate with no one. It just bothers me that Carl is just two euros short of a pimp and it bothers me, from the bottom of my heart, that he thinks that by marketing theses women that he somehow, Makes them believe that he can help them out in their business practices.
Most of the gentlemen I have seen have never posted and have never been (thank God) in touch with CarlM. So I am just letting everyone know (i.e., the girls) that his say, has very little to do with whom one see and whom one does not see, by Carl's recommendations.
Some of the women he has HIGHLY recommend have been ten cents short of somewhat attractive. I mean we are talking double brown bag situations. Crakheads you name it Carl has marketed her.
Please do not take my anger that I have for Carl personally.
I think you are a genuine sweetheart.
It's also admirable for you stand behind him, as I know the two of you have a long standing friendship BUT-
Let Carl Defend himself he is a big boy and he knows how to type, he can speak up we have all heard him talk so much about others and said so many things that were quite undesirable, at least to me and many, many others.
Yes, maybe I am too sensitive for this board but I just can't sit here and watch these women believe that he can be of any help to them what so-ever.
A pimp is a pimp is a pimp.
Love ALWAYS,
BETH<3

[Carl M]

Having to resort to an old thread Beth- Im quite surprised at you. You really do not get it! Im not gonna get into a pissing match with you have a nice day!

PS I never said one undesirable thing to you, in fact I praised you for having the guts to do such a comendable thing, but you twisted it because you must have been having a bad day

PSS Slinky can you please close this thread out it died long ago!!