Not Amused

[K.S.]

So, I occasionally use my old kimberly_sweet email address to keep in touch with a couple of people (and it's a convenient address to use when registering for stuff online - a good spam box.)

Anyway, I check it every couple of weeks or so, if that.

I just did today, and saw that there were a bunch of new messages about my "ad on ***" and some about "Welcome back! I've missed you!"

I don't know what they're talking about. I went to *** and didn't see any such ad. I guess it was taken down, like all posts mentioning me.

Anyway, while it's harmless, I guess - it's fucking weird.

It put me in a weird mood.

The fact is, I do occasionally consider seeing clients again. The thought has especially occurred to me since I've broken up with my boyfriend. The logic is something like "Well, I'm not using it for anything else, might as well make a little bit of cash with it."

But, I'm not going to do it. It's just not what I'm supposed to do.

The other day, I was window shopping down Walnut street and I stopped into this new chi-chi "Apothecary " that sells cosmetics and toiletries from Europe. Now, I am crazy about this stuff. I used to buy perfume the way some women buy shoes. I used to go to Europe to get the jump on new products... and, a few years ago, I would have spent a couple of hundred dollars in this store.

Now, I buy my cosmetics at Walgreens. I buy my clothes at Ross/Old Navy/thrift stores. I cook and pack my lunches. I take public transportation or walk everywhere.

It was weird to be in that store and think about how I would no longer buy any of those things.

When I bought those things, I wasn't particularly happy with them. Now, I spend less, I buy less - and I feel like I have more.

And, today, while I was working out at the gym (my only extravagance is my incredibly posh gym that I adore) I thought to myself "I may never have sex again for the rest of my life." It was funny. I mean, I knew that that was highly unlikely, but I had never considered the possibility before. I kind of liked it.

I may only have sex with one or two people for the rest of my life. That's just fine with me.

[ew]

Why did you stop?
Was it the same frame of mind?
How different is your thinking now from when you started?
If so, then isn't a bad idea to hit these boards or is it a test you give yourself?

[Edited by ew on 05-13-2001 at 01:19 AM]

[martiny]

Any chance it was on *** excite, or whatever that ad site is ? There's tons of old ads and whatever up for women who are not around. I think there was one up there for Brenda Love, too.

Or maybe someone just wishing real hard.

[Hotpuppy]

Originally posted by K.S.

It put me in a weird mood.

The other day, I was window shopping down Walnut street and I stopped into this new chi-chi "Apothecary " that sells cosmetics and toiletries from Europe. Now, I am crazy about this stuff. I used to buy perfume the way some women buy shoes. I used to go to Europe to get the jump on new products... and, a few years ago, I would have spent a couple of hundred dollars in this store.

Now, I buy my cosmetics at Walgreens. I buy my clothes at Ross/Old Navy/thrift stores. I cook and pack my lunches. I take public transportation or walk everywhere.

It was weird to be in that store and think about how I would no longer buy any of those things.

When I bought those things, I wasn't particularly happy with them. Now, I spend less, I buy less - and I feel like I have more.

And, today, while I was working out at the gym (my only extravagance is my incredibly posh gym that I adore) I thought to myself "I may never have sex again for the rest of my life." It was funny. I mean, I knew that that was highly unlikely, but I had never considered the possibility before. I kind of liked it.

I may only have sex with one or two people for the rest of my life. That's just fine with me.

KS,
Sounds to me like you are just trying to lead a "normal" life, whatever that may be for you. However it ultimately looks for you, I wish you good luck. While different, I know that when I decide to "retire", It will take some time to get reacclimated to the "civilian" world of dating etc. ( God help me then). In the meantime look for joy wherever it presents itself.
Take care HP

[Phantom]

Kimberly,

I know which post on ***'s Philly board uses your email address. If you want I can post the link to that post here or if you rather keep it off the boards, just drop me an email and I'll send you back the link.

[Edited by Phantom on 05-13-2001 at 07:33 AM]

[Tankcommander]

and so am I...
We could make beautiful music together....LOL :p
send me an E-mail if you start working again...

[Hotpuppy]

TC,
Never got your SE Asia review!
How you doin'?
HP

[K.S.]

Phantom, I found it, too. I have NO IDEA what they were trying to accomplish with that, LOL! I'd assumed that someone had actually posted a straightforward-sounding ad, but that ain't it.

Weird...

ew, I don't have time to answer your questions in full. But, I don't find it dangerous to come to this board. I find it to be a good way to reinforce my convictions (although not nearly as much so as reading JAG.)

And, sometimes I just wanna talk about it, if that makes any sense. I don't want to talk to any "normal" people, or to anyone I may meet in my future. I want to quarantine my present from my past. I can do that on this board.

[Hotpuppy]

Originally posted by K.S.

And, sometimes I just wanna talk about it, if that makes any sense. I don't want to talk to any "normal" people, or to anyone I may meet in my future. I want to quarantine my present from my past. I can do that on this board.




KS,
I wasnt suggesting that you wanted to talk to "normal" people( I put normal , referring to a life, in quotes simply to distinguish from those in the hobby, not to suggest that we or you are now, ever been, or ever will be abnormal). I understand that this board affords you a relatively safe place to air out your thoughts. Your perspective is unique and welcome. Whatever makes you happy!
take care,hp

[Edited by Hotpuppy on 05-13-2001 at 06:37 PM]

[ew]

JAG'll do that.

Best of luck.

[Geezy Muldoon]

Time will tell.

[Edited by Judge Crater on 07-25-2001 at 05:33 PM]

[TuckernotSucker]

I love the phrase "Aimless Consumption." Thats what I am pursuing.

[Candide]

I really don't think it's fair that K.S. still has her JAG membership while mine was cancelled. Just because she doesn't shoot her mouth off there is no excuse! I'm angry! And I'd post this in JAG instead of here if I could.

Judge Crater - You're advice to K.S. doesn't belie your posts on JAG - it is pretty consistent. But I have to ask...having the (paid) experiences which you have amassed - why in the hell do you still do it if you know it's a waste of time and money?! Couldn't it contribute to your kid's college fund?!

S.B. Please don't call me a D.B.S. or whatever obscure acronym you used to refer to me before - I have feelings too you know.

[Candide]

Sorry...it was DSB...I don't think you meant dyslexic Slinky Bender....I don't know what it means...:(

[Candide]

I'm just suffering from withdrawal...I miss you guys! Especially Mr. you-know-who...

[Geezy Muldoon]

human.

[Edited by Judge Crater on 07-25-2001 at 07:54 PM]

[littleguy]

Candide,

I'm SURE if you could tell the JAG webmasters how to idenitfy K.S. on JAG they would cut her off immediately.

[Slinky Bender]

"S.B. Please don't call me a D.B.S. or whatever obscure acronym you used to refer to me before - I have feelings too you know."

"Sorry...it was DSB...I don't think you meant dyslexic Slinky Bender....I don't know what it means..."

( I'm not sure if you're kidding or not, so here's the reply assuming you were serious )

You said:"Why is everyone so uptight on this board? You guys need to open up a massage parlor! Heavy duty Swedish style massages all around...I'm picking up tension just floating here in cyber space"

I said:"It's that DSB again"

I didn't call you "a DSB" - it's not a noun. I answered your question. "It's that Dangerous Sperm Buildup again" see the prior thread explaining it: http://www.utopiaguide.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=665


[Edited by slinkybender on 05-14-2001 at 10:42 PM]

[ew]

If she's not in the biz anymore, then she's technically not a provider though is she?

Unless the rules state sausage party only.

[mercydancer]

This DSB affliction ,is there a female version of it.If there is, I'm sure I've got it.Blurred vision and all. Help,someone please give me the cure!!!

[Slinky Bender]

The female cure is to cure a male.

( Although I'm sure there's some answer that includes the word "injection" ).

[Edited by slinkybender on 05-14-2001 at 11:59 PM]

[mercydancer]

I'm not too fond of the word injection.Don't like needles even though I have tattooes.As for the cure heym I'm more than willing to take any medication that the almighty, all powerful,ever knowledgeable moderator might suggest.

[robnotbob]

not to get too graphic, but APM, were you thinking of a beef injection?

How about a tube steak smothered in underwear??

Just had a college flashback...never mind :)

[wsb]

Judge --

No offence intended, but what the f*ck are you talking about???

Candide --

I believe LG is correct. Since KS has, to the best of my knowledge, resisted the temptation to actually post on JAG, I don't see how there is any way she can be identified by anyone who doesn't have inside info.

Regards,

WSB

[Geezy Muldoon]

disseminated.

[Edited by Judge Crater on 07-25-2001 at 05:34 PM]

[wsb]

Sorry, somehow I missed her question to you. It appeared to me as if you had just lapsed into some random musings on whoring and I thought you might have had too many martinis for lunch.

--WSB

[Geezy Muldoon]

appetite

[Edited by Judge Crater on 07-25-2001 at 05:35 PM]

[Candide]

S.B. Oh! I'm sorry... but how was I supposed to know what DSB meant? That is defintely a guy thing. Dangerous sperm buildup...hmmmmm...that made me think of what the guys used to say in college when a bunch of girls walked into a bar together - I heard them say..."tuna alert"...and didn't have a clue what that meant either :)
I guess I wasn't so touchy back then cause I didn't care what they meant...Oh no...RNB, I'm having the same college flashback that you are!

Thanks Judge, not only did you enlighten me but you made me introspective (well that isn't hard to do) very interesting stuff. And you do know yourself quite well...which leads me to wonder how in the hell you could be a lawyer...never mind...pretrend I didn't say that (my mother is a lawyer and I love her Dearly - no.. really I do). Oh, and Judge - I'm not a prostitute - considering the general feedback I got during my short career I never was one - I was just playing. (A side note: one of my reviewers was wrong about me. He said that no one would look twice at me on the street. Well, I have to say, that when I'm walking down the street in a crisp dark suit and a sexy blouse and stockings and heels (conservative office attire) I get more stares from men then I know what to do with - so I guess I was in the wrong line of work after all - but I did learn to give incredible head, and to derive a sensual enjoyment from that act. That's something I never dreamed I'd be able to do. I was always lousy at that and hated it. So my stint was good for something afterall.

WSB - Hey Baby! How the hell are ya?! You know, the truth is that K.S. has more self control than I do and doesn't shoot her mouth off so I would never tell on her even if I did know who she was. I admire her stoicism :) And I envy her membership cause I miss you guys! Tell Mr. you-know-who that I miss his voice and say hi to El Hombre for me...Best from Candi

[Geezy Muldoon]

self-knowledge.

[Edited by Judge Crater on 07-25-2001 at 05:35 PM]

[wsb]

Originally posted by Judge Crater


Have no doubt either that you look smashing in business attire, but would venture to say that your spirt and intelligence is actually what makes you more attractive and draws men to you. It is always the case, in my humble experience, with the 99.9999999% of women who are not Vogue models.



Nope, it's probably because she looks smashing in her business attire. The spirit and intelligence part is what sets the average woman who looks stunning in business attire apart from the rest, but don't let his honor fool you Candi, men are staring b/c they like what they see.

Sidenote to his honor re: "four fingers of Jameson's" --

I think your problem was choice of drink. Instead of that vile Irish swill, you should consider something made by people who know what they are doing when it comes to whiskey, such as Macallan or Balvenie - slainte go saol agat!

and to Candi...

Croi follain agus gob fliuch.
("a healthy heart and a wet mouth")

--WSB

[K.S.]

WSB, I have disagreed with many things you've posted in the time I've "known" you, but you've never actually provoked me to a response until today.

For good whiskey, one needs to look to Kentucky. Fuck scotch - it's all about BOURBON.

Please get a clue, you goddamn Philistine.

;-)

[Geezy Muldoon]

you.

[Edited by Judge Crater on 07-25-2001 at 05:36 PM]

[wsb]

Words escape me....Kentucky....mon dieu!

[Hotpuppy]

Originally posted by K.S.

For good whiskey, one needs to look to Kentucky. Fuck scotch - it's all about BOURBON.

;-)

How can you not help but love a woman that drinks Bourbon!
take care HP

[wsb]

Tell me if you still feel that way after holding her hair out of her face while she leans over the toilet for the umpteenth time. Pretty much eliminates any prospect of a bj.

--WSB

P.S. to KS --

Scots prefer the term "whiskey" as in - there is only one. The term "scotch" should be reserved for eggs.

[Hotpuppy]

Originally posted by wsb
Tell me if you still feel that way after holding her hair out of her face while she leans over the toilet for the umpteenth time. Pretty much eliminates any prospect of a bj.

Scots prefer the term "whiskey" as in - there is only one. The term "scotch" should be reserved for eggs.

Not sure how you got from a woman that likes Bourbon to assisting while she throws up( although the possibility exists with any alcoholic beverage, why single out Bourbon?), but , yes I will still feel that way as I have a weakness for women that appreciate a good drink. Now, then- if you check the labels of your finer Single Malts, even the ones they only sell over there, you will find that the liquid in the bottle is referred to as Scotch Whisky ( no "e"). At any rate, what about scotch tape?
take care, Im off to the links, HP

[wsb]

HP --

You are correct on the lack of an "e" and in the use of the full term on the labels. The fact still remains though that no self-respecting Scot would refer to the contents of the bottle as "scotch". While I am not sure, my understanding is that the term "scotch" and the addition of the "e" to whisky are American innovations.

--WSB

[Ozzy]

Originally posted by K.S.

For good whiskey, one needs to look to Kentucky. Fuck scotch - it's all about BOURBON.

Please get a clue, you goddamn Philistine.

;-)

KS,

i've already said what a fan i am....didn't i?

if not let me say it again.

my current honey drinks jack daniels actually (like myself) but BOURBON is close enough.


:cool:

[justme]

Every where I turn, prejudice.

There is a time and a place for every type of whiskey, to say one is better than the other is to express a preference for a time of day.

Scotch is a beautiful drink, wonderfully complex and varied. However cheap scotch is unpotable, and sometimes one needs a good cheap shot. Great cheap shots are what the Irish are all about. Moreover, if Irish whiskey is good enough for Joyce, then certainly it must be good enough for me. Which brings us to bourbon: the ultimate expression of patriotic drinking. How one could listen to blues or jazz enjoying anything but Kentuky's finest alludes me.

Canadian whiskey... has anything good ever come out of Canada (sorry ryan)?

(Springbank 25, Jameson's, and Booker's)

very curious as to KS's label of choice (and WSB's for that matter... TJ's is probably obvious)

[Candide]

To hell with alcohol all together...give me a guy who speaks Gaelic...what a turn on....I'm opening my cherished bottle of Drambuie (that is my personal favorite aside from a really good sherry)

Was that Gaelic WSB? I'm reading the Bio of James Boswell and the even the Scot's plain English sounds less English than German...what was that? You intellectual animal you! :)grrrrrrrrrrrr (you are such a sweet talker!)

[Edited by Candide on 05-16-2001 at 07:12 PM]

[wsb]

JM --

I have some very fine, old and expensive bottles from the Macallan Distilleries, which is my top choice. I like everything they make. If I were in a bar, I would order the 25 yr. or the 12 yr over the 18yr, which I don't like as much. Macallan also makes a blended version which is quite good.

Other's I like include Bunnahabhain, Grouse, Balvenie and Cardu (which is a grain whisky).

In terms of Irish whiskies, I actually like Jamesons - I was just kidding with the Judge.

Don't really care for any of the American variations.

Slainte,

WSB

[wsb]

Hi Candi --

Yes, that was Gaelic. I wished the judge "health for life". I'm sure you noticed that I translated yours and I couldn't help throwing in the "wet mouth" reference after your mention of bj's.

Thankfully, the Irish (and the Scots to a certain extent)keep alive that aspect of their culture by teaching it in school, so that the country doesn't become completely anglicized and accepting of the culture of their historic oppressors.

Take care,

WSB

[Candide]

WSB - You say it so much better than "Brave Heart" And I'm sure you look better in blue.

DId you ever see "Mrs. Brown"? About the relationship between Queen Victoria and her Scottish horse breeder? After Prince Albert died, Queen Vicky was in need of curing a man of his "DSB" as Slinky would say :) ...but of course in her royal, role-model position and in that era of consumate female prudery which is named after her...she wasn't about to get any. So she hung out with her well hung stable groom (he had a fancier title then that though) because he helped her get over her grief for her husband and he cheered her up because he treated her like a woman and not a queen. So, her son, the Prince of Wales had him beaten to a pulp because his Mom liked him too much and then he told Mom (Victoria) that Brown was drunk and picked a fight. I almost threw my popcorn at the movie screen during that scene - those British can sure ruin a love story...sigh.....ooops...Sorry Slinky I forgot...off topic...ok, ok I'm going away now! :)

[Candide]

P.S. I just realized that Queen Victoria probably never even could imagine a b.j. let alone actually give a guy one...Royalty has it's disadvantages I guess.

[Ozzy]

but i bet lady Di gave one hell of a bj. what do you think distracted that driver.........


if you believe those internet autopsy photos and reports....some claim the princes dick was severed???????


gee....... i wonder how that happened?

[Hotpuppy]

Originally posted by wsb
HP --

You are correct on the lack of an "e" and in the use of the full term on the labels. The fact still remains though that no self-respecting Scot would refer to the contents of the bottle as "scotch". While I am not sure, my understanding is that the term "scotch" and the addition of the "e" to whisky are American innovations.

--WSB

Are you saying that the Scottish distillers, who you agree label their product as "Scotch Whisky", are not self-respecting?
take care HP

[wsb]

Sorry if I've been unclear. In my view, when describing whisky from Scotland:

a) "scotch whisky" or "scotch whiskey" = OK

b) "whisky" or "whiskey" = OK

c) "scotch" = NG

The term "scotch" is used in a variety of contexts throughout Scotland to describe things of Scottish origin, although traditionalists like myself prefer the term "Scots", as in the traditional language of Scotland is Scots, not Scottish or, heaven forbid, Scotch.

Candi --

Yes, I saw "Mrs. Brown" on the big screen as well and liked it very much. I thought the selection of Billy Connolly, a well-known commedian in Scotland, for the role of Mr. Brown was an excellent choice.

Regards,

WSB



[Edited by wsb on 05-17-2001 at 05:51 PM]

[justme]

I've never really understood the reverence towards McAllen (a reverence which leads to, imho, tremendously inflated prices). Balvenie and Cardu are oft ordered favs. I'll have to try the other two.

While the SB25 is the best scotch I've had (again, imho), I tend to order much less expensive Islays.

I remember (and am still confounded by) your dislike of new world whiskey.

[Hotpuppy]

Originally posted by wsb
Sorry if I've been unclear. In my view, when describing whisky from Scotland:

a) "scotch whisky" or "scotch whiskey" = OK

b) "whisky" or "whiskey" = OK

c) "scotch" = NG

The term "scotch" is used in a variety of contexts throughout Scotland to describe things of Scottish origin, although traditionalists like myself prefer the term "Scots", as in the traditional language of Scotland is Scots, not Scottish or, heaven forbid, Scotch.



I think I have it now, but isnt it all so semantic? Well, I do agree about one thing: if its not Scottish, its crap!
hp

[wsb]

JM --

SB25??? = Springbank or did the APM start his own distillery???

If you like the Islay malts, you'd probably like Bunnahabhain, as it comes from Argyll. Not always easy to find in the states, unless you are in a place that has a large whisky selection.

HP --

Funny :)

Best,

WSB

[Hotpuppy]

Talisker , Laphroaig 15 and Macallan 12(agree, preferable to the 18) for me.
take care hp

[K.S.]

I like Knob Creek. I've had some other bourbons that I like a lot, but they were very boutiquey sorts that you don't see much in stores, so I've forgotten their names.

I also like McCallan (or however you spell it). And Knokando (or however you spell it.)

I do use blended Canadian whiskey in mixed drinks.

Lately, though, I've been into Tanqueray martini's. This is not good, really, as I've also been into running and lifting weights and they don't go very well together.

Someone just emailed this to me today:

Seven New York City bartenders were asked if they could nail a woman's
personality based on what she drinks. Though interviewed separately, they
concurred on almost all counts.

Drink: Beer
Personality: Casual, low-maintenance, down to earth.
Your Approach:
Challenge her to a game of pool.

Drink: Blender Drinks
Personality: Flaky, whiny, annoying, a pain in the butt.
Your Approach: Avoid her, unless you want to be her cabin boy.

Drink: Mixed Drinks
Personality: Older, more refined, high maintenance, very picky, knows
exactly what she wants.
Your Approach: You won't have to approach her; if she is interested, she'll
send you a drink.

Drink: Wine (does not include White Zinfandel, see below)
Personality: Conservative and classy, sophisticated yet giggles.
Your Approach: Tell her you love to travel and spend quiet evenings with
friends.

Drink: White Zinfandel
Personality: Easy, thinks she is classy and sophisticated, but actually has
no clue.
Your Approach: Make her feel smarter than she is; this should be an easy
target.

Drink: Shots
Personality: Likes to hang with frat-boy pals and is looking to get totally
drunk ... and naked.
Your Approach: Easiest hit in the joint. You have been blessed this evening.
Nothing to do but wait. However, be careful not to make her mad!

Then there is the male addendum. The deal with guys is, as always, very
simple and clear cut:

Domestic Beer: He's poor and wants sex.

Imported Beer: He likes good beer and wants sex.

Wine: He's hoping that the wine thing will give him a sophisticated image to
help him get sex.

Whiskey: He doesn't give a hoot about anything but getting sex.

Tequila: He is thinking he has a chance with the toothless waitress.

White Zinfandel: He's gay (and looking to have sex).

[wsb]

she said knob - he, he, he...........

[Ozzy]

i have 4 unopened bottles of MARTIN"S 20 year old scotch whisky thats been sitting on a shelf on my (used to be my dads) bar for over 40 yrs. i'd be glad to open a bottle if you want to have a drink one night......


that includes you too wsb.


i also have a few bottles of 17-25 yr ballantines, also over 40 yrs on the shelf. what can i say, my dad likes his "pinch".




i gotta start making room for the "cheap shit", it does taste soo much better.

[wsb]

Yeah, I'll invite A w/ 1N and we can double date. Are you making the lasagna???

[justme]

KS - Knob Creek's good stuff (it's become my roomate's favorite mixing whiskey). Saw the female beverage analysis a few years ago, hadn't seen the male addendum until today. Thanks. I've always thought of marini's as the adult vesion of a frat kid's tequila shot - a way to get drunk quickly (to this end, I come from the school that dictates that a martini should take no more than two 'sips' to finish). Have you tried one made with Citadell, a French!? gin which I think significantly outperforms Tanq in a martini... although the new Tanq 10 comes close.

WSB - I'll have to try it out. There's a liquor store in town that can usually special order about anything (that they don't have in their rather impressive everyday stock).

Oz - The cheap stuff definitely has its place.

- justme (beginning to feel like an alcy)

[littleguy]

K.S.

Great report. Now all I have to do is quit drinking white zinfandel. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[Slinky Bender]

Ozzy,
I know what you mean, but it just sounds funny to hear about 20 year old bottle of Scotch Whisky which has been sitting on a shelf for 40 years.

[Edited by slinkybender on 05-17-2001 at 08:20 PM]

[Ozzy]

well you didn't think that i went out and bought that vile crap did you?

my dad kept a well stocked bar since before i was born......


the above scotch, a case each of napoleon & courvoisier cognac and a few bottles of 25 yr old ambassader are all thats left. i polished off all the good stuff when i was a kid.


sb....I KNOW (i'm not that low class), but isn't it cool to blow off an inch of dust before you open the bottle? at least i didn't say *A* 20yr old bottle on the shelf for 40 yrs.


wsb,
so if you're bringing A1N, who's my date gonna be......candie maybe? i'm sure you could convince her i'm an ok guy.

[Edited by Ozzy on 05-17-2001 at 08:51 PM]

[HornDogBuddah]

Here is my contribution to the body of UG knowledge about whisky: according to the main guys at both Glen Turret (near Gleneagles, one of the world's supremely awesome places to rest one's head between bouts of golf and whisky drinking) and Laphroaig, whisky (unlike fine wine) does NOT continue to age once it has been bottled. Also, many knowledgeable folks will tell you that whisky does not get any mellower nor any more complex once it reaches the age of 15-18 years (depending upon distillers). In other words, there is little need (except for ego stroking) to go for the extra spend in buying older whiskeys because your palate would very likely be unable to distinguish between 18 and 25 y.o. whiskeys. (I think if they were to participate in a blind taste test, most people wouldn't be able to distinguish betweeen 12 y.o. and 25 y.o. whisky or whiskey.) (Just as some self-proclaimed wine enthusiasts would not be able to tell pinot noir from cabernet sauvignon from zinfandel with 100% accuracy in a truly blinded test. If you think I'm wrong, try it -- have a friend pour twelve samples of wine that include four pinots, four cabs, and four zins (you need someone else to set this up because you will be unable to refrain from cheating) -- unless the samples are uncharacteristic (e.g., corked or cooked or otherwise spoiled, etc.) I will wager that you will not pick out all twelve accurately.

Sidebar to KS: IMO, small barrel bourbons are America's distilled gift to the world -- they offer counter balance to Armagnac and single malt whisky. (If you like Knob Creek, you might try Maker's Mark -- it's a touch sweeter than Knob Creek but offers smooth complexity and rich nuttiness at a much gentler price.)

Just watch out for the cogeners -- if you allow too many of them through the door in a short period of time, they tend to make your next morning a disaster.

[Candide]

Isn't bourbon one of the ingredients of a Manhattan? (I was a waitress in a bar in college and my memory is good for trivia like this) And isn't a Manhattan named after N.Y.C.'s prized Island where the real estate is as good as gold? Then I guess K.S. has a point in a literal and figurative sense, both. But give me a dram of the Buie any time :) I like the "delicate liquer"of the Isle of Skye (a relative new invention as of 1745)

Oz, I think that the guy in the car was the heir to the throne of Harrod's (Herod is an apt pun here?) and his father is a wealthy scion of Arabic descent and the blue bloods (royals) hate that family's guts and want them out of Britian. I hadn't heard that about the poor guy's member being severed (ouch,my god) but that was a horrible accident and I cried for Di and all of them when it happened. (And I have a sneaking suspicion that the royal family didn't mind so much losing the ex-Princess of Wales. She was a thorn in their side to say the least - and they have their hands full now that their tax free status is over)

But I have no doubt Di was not bad in the 'head' department as you mentioned. Something about her...the way she looked at the camera with a light in her eyes, unsure and brazen at the same time; that smile which went slightly off to the side in a secret, sexy little smirk, that little girl's hope and desire of being able to please...that sensual look of 'knowledge' on her otherwise innocent face...she was a lady meant for the bedroom I always thought ...and Charles is such an ass! But then again I'm sure I don't know the whole story.

[Edited by Candide on 05-20-2001 at 05:59 PM]

[JohnJ]

I like how you depict Di being a lady in the pulic, but a possible sex kitten waiting to be unleashed...

Hmmm is there a lil something like that in you... makes me think there is....

John

[littleguy]

Way to go JohnJ. Keep working on the lovely Ms Candide. Maybe you can talk her back into being a provider. I do believe I'd see her.

[foX]

Originally posted by K.S.
For good whiskey, one needs to look to Kentucky. Fuck scotch - it's all about BOURBON.

;-)

Being born and raised in Louisville, I would have to agree whole heartedly.

I am however, distraught at the notion I am not normal, even it its true.

foX

[K.S.]

HDB, Thanks! I do have Maker's Mark here at home - because that's what I can afford.

I also agree that most people cannot really discern the difference between various wines or scotches (I keep Glenlivet at my house.) As long as it's not the "well drink" stuff, it should be good.

[Paige]

A terrific Bloody Mary there are two places on the Island that do them like none other.
Captain Bills( Bayshore area)- makes them in long tall glasses with horseradish and a Long Stalk of Celery and a real Shirmp with the tail on. They put that Shrimp hanging over the glass w/ slice of Lemon as well . So cool and yummy indeed.
The Blue Parrot( East Hampton) also made with Horseradish and I don't know what else they use might be a quality Vodka I'm sure but they are great and a Long Stalk of Celery too.
Kiss
Kiss,
&
Hoovies
Paige

[Geezy Muldoon]

think we will all be alright.

[Edited by Judge Crater on 07-25-2001 at 05:37 PM]

[mercydancer]

I can't stand the taste of beer,wine gives me a hangover. I think I'll stick to my old buddy Jack.He's been there for me when no one else wanted to, he gets me all warmed up and boy does he get me going.

[Ozzy]

mercy,

i've got some JD direct from the plant thats not available anywhere.....135 proof and it's colorless. taste the same though......maybe we should meet and toss back a few.

oz :cool:..............who laughs at people who brag about having green label JD(it's not available in ny) when it's soo much weaker. and also available all over the south.

[mercydancer]

oooh,yummy.135proof?hummmm. JD has a way of going straight to my head.But usually the downstairs one.

[wsb]

Horndogbudda --

Re: "Also, many knowledgeable folks will tell you that whisky does not get any mellower nor any more complex once it reaches the age of 15-18 years (depending upon distillers)."

Well, that is certainly one commonly espoused opinion, but far from fact as far as I'm concerned.

I am hardly an expert when it comes to whisky and I can absolutely discern the difference between 18 and 25 yr old whiskies from distillers with whom I am familiar. I also have some considerably older bottles from Macallan and other distillers that I think just about anyone could clearly determine taste different that their younger bretheren.

You are absolutely correct though that whisky does not continue to age once it has left the cask.

--WSB

[Hotpuppy]

Originally posted by Ozzy
mercy,

i've got some JD direct from the plant thats not available anywhere.....135 proof and it's colorless. taste the same though......maybe we should meet and toss back a few.

oz :cool:..............who laughs at people who brag about having green label JD(it's not available in ny) when it's soo much weaker. and also available all over the south.

Good ole Dr. Jack!
Why in hell would anyone brag about Green label Jack? Id like to try some of that 135 sometime.
Take care HP

[wsb]

Come on Oz, tell Mercy the truth. You make that sh*t in your back yard. Of course, it's not like anyone would know the difference though at 135 proof. Hope you own a fire extinguisher - sounds like dangerous stuff.

whooowaaah,

WSB

[Edited by wsb on 05-21-2001 at 06:20 PM]

[JohnJ]

Me.... you... back of the bar at the get together.... doing shots of JD purely to test your theory as to which head it goes to....

;)

John

[Ozzy]

it's in a crystal decanter with the jack daniels logo embossed on it. they make it once every few years or so(i think 1,000 bottles) and give it out to their top customers and sales people. i know someone who is a big shot for a major liquor store chain and he gave me two of them. every now and then you will see one in a buy rite or one of those chain stores.

[Ozzy]

there's also something called "barrel house" which is produced also once every few years. it can be bought in your local store and it's supposedly aged in the original barrels they used 150 years ago and aged longer. it's 96 or 98 proof as opposed to 90 that JD is usualy bottled at, unless you have green label which is 84 proof.

[beep9]

Originally posted by Ozzy
there's also something called "barrel house" which is produced also once every few years. it can be bought in your local store and it's supposedly aged in the original barrels they used 150 years ago and aged longer. it's 96 or 98 proof as opposed to 90 that JD is usualy bottled at, unless you have green label which is 84 proof.

Now we can move this back to Whiskey. When in London, those who desire will find it profitable to hie to the Covent Gardent Whiskey Shop. Even at the distillery's I've not seen cask strength whiskey's for sale. These are whiskey's that are not blended at all (even single malt whiskeys are blended between barrells, and watered to an appropriate proof), and, as such, are a bit unpredictable. My favorite right now is a 25 year old Linkwood, aged in sherry, which is, unfortunately, no longer available (the cask ran out). According to the label, it is proof 127.8 (63.9% alcohol). Those who like the big peaty whiskeys wouldn't be overly impressed with this one, but that adds to the horse race.

One other thing: as always, it's best to get someone else to pay for the trip to London:)

[mercydancer]

Originally posted by JohnJ
Me.... you... back of the bar at the get together.... doing shots of JD purely to test your theory as to which head it goes to....

;)

John
The only problem is that once I hit the 7th shot,(and I'm talking real sized shots not those miniature ones they serve in some of the downtown bars,)well I have to sit for a while because then I have a tendency to get TOO friendly and not notice that I'm doing it. Don't want to get accused of sexual harassment.

[justme]

With wine and spirits, I think the important thing is to slowly develop your palate. I agree that most people can't distinguish wines, but by and large that's because most people don't know what to look for. The thing is, though, that unless you're willing to devote sufficient amount of time and concentration to a quality beverage, it doen't really make any sense to drink it - may as well go for the cheap stuff. While in a whiskey bar once, I saw a guy take a shot of Springbank 21 and I wanted to walk over and smack him. I never understand people that order $100 dollar bottles of wine to go with lunch - it's just an insult to the wine. Still, if you're willing to put in the patience and effort, I think the differences become obvious*.

* - to depart, a bit, from the thread... my favorite spirit (that I've tried, obviously) is Pierre Ferand's Abel. Now, the differnce between the Abel (45 years) and the Selection des Anges (30 years) is almost as big as that between the products of two different distilleries.

[jmp]

Originally posted by justme
While in a whiskey bar once, I saw a guy take a shot of Springbank 21 and I wanted to walk over and smack him. I never understand people that order $100 dollar bottles of wine to go with lunch - it's just an insult to the wine. Still, if you're willing to put in the patience and effort, I think the differences become obvious*.

Last time I was in Vegas, I was walking past one of the bars at the Bellagio when I noticed their Scotch collection. I gamble enough there that they comp me all my drinks even when I'm not at the tables, so I sat down and pondered the selection for a little while, finally deciding to have the Macallan 25, which I don't get my hands on too often. (I don't drink while I'm gambling, as both require too much attention, especially when drinking good Scotch.)

Based on the expression on my face when I saw the Scotch collection, and the way I handled the drink once I got it, the bartender made a comment about it being nice to have someone drinking the stuff who actually appreciated it. Apparently, she got lots of people around there who would ask for a Scotch list, then order the most expensive one on the rocks, or with soda. The thought of it nearly made me sick, but getting to sample all their selections for free over the course of my stay made up for it.

[candie]

So all that scotch I was given during the holidays that I used to clean my phones with was for drinking?

[HornDogBuddah]

Say it ain't so.

[Ozzy]

i used it to clean paint brushes.

[mercydancer]

Can it cure a toothache?

[thelastone]

Originally posted by mercydancer
Can it cure a toothache?

Theres only one cure for a toothache. And I'm sure everyone here knows what it is...



painkillers...

why what were you thinking?
;)

[Candide]

Candie :) Touche!

[wsb]

Just as a follow-up to my discussion w/ HP, I was at the pub last eveing and although I don't drink it myself, I noticed that Cutty Sark is labeled "Scots Whisky". At least someone got it correct.

Cheers,

WSB

[Hotpuppy]

Originally posted by wsb
Just as a follow-up to my discussion w/ HP, I was at the pub last eveing and although I don't drink it myself, I noticed that Cutty Sark is labeled "Scots Whisky". At least someone got it correct.

Cheers,

WSB

Very observant wsb, just to extend this semantic exercise: it may be that "Scots" is the possesive form of Scot (a person from Scotland), so the distillers of Cutty Sark( which I wouldnt use as paint thinner) may be trying to give the impression that their beverage is the "Scots " choice. While "Scotch" is an adjective, a descriptive, a type of whisky produced solely in Scotland. Whatever. Now my head hurts and I havent even had a drink yet.
take care HP