So who's the best

[MusicMaster]

Well, I must admit, this part of the board seems a little quiet. In reading all the threads, I was hoping to see some great referrals of some top end SPs from agencies like Fluer, NYElites, Chez and Abigail Rothschild.

I am coming to town later this week (I visit frequently) and was hoping someone has had some good experience and can recommend a high caliber girl from one of these agencies that is a GFE.

Any recommendations?

[redleg609]

For the real GFE call the I Gotta Headache Agency.

[MusicMaster]

Hey, I get that service for free already!

[ogami]

I've never tried NY Elites or Abigail Rothschild. But between Chez and Fleur, I would recommend Fleur. None of the 5 or so girls I tried from them is on their site anymore, but all of them had real pics on the site, and more than one told me that all the pics that Fleur posts are of the real providers. 2 of the 5 Fleur girls I tried gave me what I would consider accomodating service (dfk, daty, bbbj); the rest didn't to varying extents. All were quite attractive, articulate, and had pleasant attitudes. I haven't tried anyone in their current line-up, but an acquaintance who has told me that Barbara gives very good service, in particular a very good bbbj. Her rate is $1500 I believe. Hope this helps.

[One Eyed Trouser Trout]

www.hotshannon.com

[Escort_King]

What exactly are you looking for.... age hard body seriously accomodating.... can point you in a better direction with a little more info

[Escort_King]

This might be right and price is not quiet the HER but they do live up to that quality

http://www.belledejour.net/

as a visitor you may want to go for a little outside time with them too.... hell nothing feeds the ego like walking around Manhattan with a gorgeous woman on your arm... that is worth the spending of a few dollars.... helps get the dick hard .... lol

[jgriscom]

Tough to find good-looking high end providers who
are reasonably accommodating.
You might try a small agency -- no name, phone is
212-794-3947, ask for phone girl Ana. They
advertise in (pink paper) weekly N.Y. Observer and
ny-exotics.com, eros-ny.com.
Some of their very pretty providers, all reasonably accommodating too, are Lisa M.,
Lisa G., Connie, Shannon, Taylor. All come and go due to travel, most are actual working-right-now fashion, hair etc. models.
Probably their best in the sack is Lana, also a very pretty working model with killer bod, 34C.
Agency likes 2-hour assignments, but in this
economy if you ask nicely they'd probably do
a 1-hour incall.
Another idea is www.monalisa-models.com. They
have both upper middle and high end providers. The
top girls generally at $1000 are all 8,9 or
10 in looks; some are less accommodating but
phone girls can give tips. Try Carla, Candace
for looks; Joyce, Cindy for most accommodating,
also hot looking.

[donquixote04]

Originally posted by jgriscom
Another idea is www.monalisa-models.com. They
have both upper middle and high end providers. The
top girls generally at $1000 are all 8,9 or
10 in looks; some are less accommodating but
phone girls can give tips. Try Carla, Candace
for looks; Joyce, Cindy for most accommodating,
also hot looking.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Kelly ($1500 per hour) the same person as Playboy Newstand modes Heather Christiansen?

[One Eyed Trouser Trout]

Originally posted by jgriscom
www.monalisa-models.com.

http://www.monalisa-models.com./brandy.html

I'm pretty sure 'Brandy' is Brooke Lane, famed porn-star and centerfold hottie.

[MusicMaster]

Appreciate all the suggestions. That will give me a great ad on my shopping list :-)

[donquixote04]

Tracey (bottom row, second from the last) is actually Lisa Sohm, a playboy playmate of the month from the 1970s. She'd be 45-50 years old by now. This is clearly a bait and switch website.

[justlooking]

You don't know till you try them. Could be a low-quality bait & switch operation -- or could be another agency that puts any old pictures up on their website in order to attract attention BUT STILL SUPPLIES HIGH-QUALITY PRODUCT.

If anyone uses them (you all know what's going to come next), I'd recommend dispensing with any reference at all to the pictures when you call, and just concentrating on finding out from the phone girl what's actually available.

[ogami]

I agree; if you're going to partake in this segment, it's better to find agencies that consistently provide a certain level of looks and service, rather than fixating on the pictures of individual girls. I've had pretty good luck with Mona Lisa on both counts, which is why I said in another thread that they're the high end agency that I've been most satisfied with (or least dissatisfied with, if you like).

But I also recognize the desire to "know" what you're getting beforehand. I'm that way too. But I put "know" in scare-quotes on purpose: how much can a professionally done, glamor pic tell you about what she'll look like in person, or how well you'll hit it off with her? Very little, in my experience. But in any event, since I like to know I'm getting the girl in the pic too, here's what I can offer re the pics on Mona Lisa's site from personal experience:

Real pics:

Ashely, Ingrid, Carla, Lynn (who's the same as Collin, btw; both are a rather well-known PS from the late 90's), Lissette, Brandy, Giselle, Cassandra, Raquel, Katie, Natalie, Candice, Samantha, Cindy

Fake pics:

Joyce, Stephanie, Karen, Elka, Lauren, Claire, Vivian


Repeated Disclaimer: I have seen very little correspondence between whether a girl's pic is real and how attractive I found her in person; and no correspondence with how much I wound up enjoying the session.

[justlooking]

[Deleted. Even I sometimes recognize that the horse has been beaten dead.]

[donquixote04]

Originally posted by justlooking
[Deleted. Even I sometimes recognize that the horse has been beaten dead.]
Doesn't the fact that ogami reports that Mona Lisa has some accurate pics along with sume fake ones undermine your basic dead horse point about not paying attention to any pics in this segment of the market? Afterall, now, thanks to ogami's reporting, we can be confident about some of the pics from this agency, even in this segment.

[ogami]

donq,

Sometimes the real pics will be of girls who are no longer at the agency. The more reputable agencies won't do this, and as far as I know, all the pics at Mona Lisa that I indicated as being real, are of girls who are still available there. The same goes for ML's fake pics, for that matter.

But not every girl is available every night or every time one calls. I think part of justlooking's point is not to let a fixation with any particular pic (be it real or fake) prevent one from enjoying a girl who IS available when one calls. On the other hand, with some advanced planning, you can make an appointment with the girl in the pic. But you might miss out on a better girl whose pic is fake or not on the site. What I like to do is try as many as possible as soon as possible, and then let the owner know which ones I had the best time with. Then she has an idea of what my tastes are, and can make recommendations for the future, regardless of whether the girls' pics on the site are real or not.

(BTW, donq, I am painfully aware that I have yet to reply to you on the other matter. I've been working on it when time allows, but it's been a far more difficult process than I anticipated, my thoughts regarding the matter less settled than I had realized. I'm sorry for the delay.)

[donquixote04]

Originally posted by ogami
... I am painfully aware that I have yet to reply to you on the other matter. ... it's been a far more difficult process than I anticipated, my thoughts regarding the matter less settled than I had realized. I'm sorry for the delay.)
No need for any apology. Take your time, or don't reply at all if you prefer. I'm sorry that this may be difficult for you.

[justlooking]

Originally posted by ogami
Repeated Disclaimer: I have seen very little correspondence between whether a girl's pic is real and how attractive I found her in person; and no correspondence with how much I wound up enjoying the session.

The point I've been trying to make -- and which I think ogami has made better than I've ever managed to -- is that the reason I think this fixation on pictures is so misguided is that the pictures don't really tell you much of importance. They don't tell you what the woman is like. And they often don't even tell you what she really looks like.

I think ogami's comment that there's no correspondence between whether a woman's picture was real and his enjoyment of the session is very telling.

To keep beating that dead horse: I think it would be much more useful to all of us if we would stop fixating on whether the pictures are real and start fixating on the quality of the women an agency supplies.

More useful (and please understand I don't mean this hostilely) than crying out, "GOTCHA! Bait and switch!" every time you can determine a picture isn't real.

(At least in this segment of the market.)

OK, let me keep beating that horse, to try to be as clear as possible. What ogami told us that's important, IMO, is that, on the whole, he's had fairly reliably good experiences through this agency. Not, I think, that some of the pictures are real. His information about his generally good experiences would be just as useful even if none of the women he saw had real pictures.

So I don't think it's quite right to say that ogami told us this isn't a "bait and switch" agency. I think it's more accurate to say he told us that this isn't a bad agency.

[elliot16]

Said in the voice of Robert Shaw as Doyle Lonnigan in "The Sting"

"Do you Follow?"

[Hotpuppy]

Originally posted by justlooking
[Deleted. Even I sometimes recognize that the horse has been beaten dead.]

Guess the old nag is still twitching abit :)
hp

[justlooking]

Also, to keep being painfully clear at risk of being painfully boring, I keep repeating "in this market segment" because I recognize that there ARE horrible "bait and switch" agencies (RolePlayMe comes immediately to mind). But to me, the problem with those agencies isn't so much that the pictures are fake as that the available women don't come near living up to them AND the service stinks. And while paying a (relative) lot isn't a guarantee of quality, my experience is that the ratio of such horrible agencies to the good ones is higher below the $600 mark than above it.

[Charles]

(quote) "And while paying a (relative) lot isn't a
guarantee of quality, my experience is that the ratio of such horrible agencies to the good ones is higher below the $600 mark than above it."

Hmmmm. I guess I've been doing it wrong. Every time I come on, someone's hitting me up for a deal. Now, I find out that I will only garner respect if I charge more than $600. I've been going in the wrong direction!!! Glad Mona Lisa is getting some respect -- My old phone girl works there now.... she's a good girl. But, does Mona Lisa advertise here? charlesangelsnyc.com

[justlooking]

No offense, Charles, but based on my experience (all admittedly a few years ago), your girls wouldn't be worth it.

[soonparted]

Charles,

I also used your service a few times and can say
you should not try to break out of the range
you are now charging.

[Charles]

Thanks for the vote of confidence.

I'll keep those advertising dollars coming your way.

[justlooking]

They don't come my way.

[Charles]

PS:

More than half the girls that are on my site are also working for a couple of the names you mentioned. Look closely at the pics, gentlemen.

They work for me at a lesser rate because they like me and like working for me. The names may be different....

But, it's your wallet.

[mitchmaxx]

Charles, very nice selection.

[April]

Lets say a certain person has acquainences down South that are itching to come to NY to let the Big Apple take a bite out of their untarnished asses.
They would be set up as independents with a "receptionist" taking their calls.

The Gift as well as the girls would definitely belong in the High End room.


Wonder Who might be interested.

Wonder what the gift might be


Hypothtically Speaking of course.


A

[donquixote04]

I would hypothetically suppose that the hypothetical posters in this thread and other threads in this section might have at least a hypothetical interest. Probably, only so long as the gift is on the low side of what qualifies a provider in this section. At least, that's what I'd hypothesize.

[April]

Originally posted by donquixote04
......................Probably, only so long as the gift is on the low side of what qualifies a provider in this section. At least, that's what I'd hypothesize.



and what might that be hypothetically speaking ?



Highball?...................






Lowball?.................................

(I'll give you a hint, if low is 4 beans were out of here)

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sidenote: ii do know the difference between $150 side of beef, and a $1000 trophy

[Truth]

Hypothetically, not even BMM would be dumb enough (no offense big guy) to pay $600 for an hour with these hypothetical hoes when he can get adorable, young girls from AATR to kiss, suck, swallow and fuck him at half that price.

Maybe Vermeer would be interested, however.

You should ask him.

[April]

I'll refrain from answering this because my intent is to not insult anyone. Different strokes for different folks and BTW if some of you saw the arsenal that is being considered (as in as green as they come) the TRUE high end gentlemen would be appreciative as well as in awe, I know I am.


p.s. BMM wants young nubile bodies for a romp, I think it's time things were taken to a higher level, perhaps this isn't the forum for this.....my bad.

[Casper]

I prefer the BREAST stroke, followed immediately by the hob-knob stroke.

[Truth]

Originally posted by April
I think it's time things were taken to a higher level, perhaps this isn't the forum for this.....my bad.

Good idea. Run along and look for some suckers ..... 'scuse me ...... TRUE high end clients somewhere else.

I'm sure they would be in awe, just as you say, of your lot of "green" honeys.


*after how many sessions with some of us nasty fuckers here would they turn from green to yellow, anyway?

And would their rates thus decrease since they were no longer "green"?

:rolleyes:

[Casper]

Ok time to kiss some ass.

April's reputation preceeds her so don't be so quick to dismiss her ability to scout for, hire, and sucessfully maintain a stable of fine ladies. Especially with her strap on, she can test drive them personally, like only a woman can do ;)

oh to be a fly on that wall

[ODB]

The best is the ho who looks like Anna Kournikova, does it all for $300 and let's me stay over three hours without tipping or hassles.