View Full Version : Do you really give your name, number and show ID?
Blender
02-08-2011, 06:10 PM
I've been reading some posts and it seems that some providers and agencies require you to give your name, your cell and sometimes even show your ID.
Giving a last name and cell seems unwise.
I saw someone say that they went as far as having a separate, possibly throwaway phone for his mongering.
What do you all do?
morgan2
02-11-2011, 06:31 AM
in a free market business such as this, there are some providers who insist on certain "screening," which might include some items that some are comfortable giving and some not. personally, real name, phone number other than cell, work info, etc. is far too intrusive, so i will not see that provider.
what i don't understand is when a provider wants a "reference" from another provider. wouldn't the monger feel uncomfortable asking a girl for one who will think why isn't he seeing me? i don't get it.
fairemily
02-11-2011, 11:42 PM
in a free market business such as this, there are some providers who insist on certain "screening," which might include some items that some are comfortable giving and some not. personally, real name, phone number other than cell, work info, etc. is far too intrusive, so i will not see that provider.
what i don't understand is when a provider wants a "reference" from another provider. wouldn't the monger feel uncomfortable asking a girl for one who will think why isn't he seeing me? i don't get it.
I give references all the time, I am not competitive and would rather my clients be safe. If a provider thinks their clients only see them they are delusional, it's good buisness and a good motto in life to keep things friendly, what comes around goes around.
If everybody asked for a reference, nobody would have one.
fairemily
02-12-2011, 06:34 AM
If everybody asked for a reference, nobody would have one.
Some of us know how to screen without a reference or prying into somone's life to the point of uncomfortability. It takes practice and is never perfect but close enough you work self sufficiently. I never mind giving references, it's an important part of being part of the community. I have an traveling client that I have given at least a dozens of reference for, it's just easier for him to see new providers in different cities and still keep low profile and it's a nice way for us to stay in touch. My willingness to be a referral has brought us closer and when I eventually get my turn to see him it's always guaranteed a great time.
I only cold screen for myself, if I have to resort to needing a reference that means I declined the first attempt and it went to plan B.
Search this site. You'll find numerous discussions on this topic.
Waterclone
02-14-2011, 11:51 AM
I've been reading some posts and it seems that some providers and agencies require you to give your name, your cell and sometimes even show your ID.
Giving a last name and cell seems unwise.
I saw someone say that they went as far as having a separate, possibly throwaway phone for his mongering.
What do you all do?
It's funny to se you say they went as far as having a separate throwaway phone. You make it sound like that's some extreme. A lot of the hobbyists that I know use just such a phone. I'd call it commonplace.
The first person I ever saw didn't require a reference, but she became a reference for my 2nd escort. I built it from that. I am happy to give my cell # because it is a prepay cash phone that is not tied to my name in any way. I created an alter ego when I started and I always use that name. As far as anyone is concerned, that is my real name. I generally don't see people who would require ID. If my references aren't good enough, then I move on to someone else.
If I was in a room with a girl and it turned out she required an ID, I wouldn't have a problem flashing mine, as long as she's not writing down the info. I don't want my real name documented anywhere. She might be a little bothered by the fact that it's not the same name that I booked with, but if she refuses to see me, I take my money and go.
light
02-17-2011, 08:10 AM
A provider, once ask me 4, my First name, Last name, Home address, Job name, number, and drivers license number. I ask her, what kind of drugs were she on. I need to try it.
skudd
02-18-2011, 10:55 AM
I've been reading some posts and it seems that some providers and agencies require you to give your name, your cell and sometimes even show your ID.
Giving a last name and cell seems unwise.
I saw someone say that they went as far as having a separate, possibly throwaway phone for his mongering.
What do you all do?
You need a separate, pay the minutes cell phone kept OUT of your home if you are married. Period. Unless u want to get caught. If you are single, it might not be that big a deal but i would get one anyway because that number will be on a lot of agency data bases after awhile.
I NEVER gave my last name. You accumulate references, the more the better. You get on a service like datecheck.com or 411perferred.
At most high end Amps they check your license and want another photo- ID or two, to make sure your not LE. They read it in like 5 seconds, and hand it back. I have not gotten a fake license and ID's but i know guys who have. Not easy to get and i dont know where to procure them.
fairemily
02-18-2011, 02:00 PM
I recently spoke with this guy who was so vague he didn't feel I had to right to ask him what field of work he was in or his real first name. I think there needs to be some middle ground, you don't have to give your life's story but to be so weary about giving generic information just makes you appear like you are up to something. It's usually these guys who have bad experiences because they have no sense of proposition.
When I walk in hotel for outcalls I don't slink in trying to be seen by security because it looks suspicious and you will more likely be stopped and questioned. I go straight to the front desk with a smile on my face and ask where the curiosity phone is, if there is none I am still allowed up without a problem. I am not revealing my purpose but I am not being sneaky either.
valleyguy11580
02-19-2011, 12:40 AM
I go straight to the front desk with a smile on my face and ask where the curiosity phone is...
Tell me, fair lady, what expressions have you noticed on the desk clerks' faces when you ask to use the curiosity phone? And what exactly did you expect to glean by using this device?
shamu
02-20-2011, 08:48 AM
lol...I think she means to say the "courtesy" phone that many hotels have in the lobby to call upstairs to the rooms
fairemily
02-20-2011, 09:11 AM
lol...I think she means to say the "courtesy" phone that many hotels have in the lobby to call upstairs to the rooms
Yes, you are right, courtesy phone not curosity but then again it if I don't know the guy it could be a courtesy phone with a hint of curosity.
A courtesy phone is designed to be able to call the person you are going to visit from the lobby, almost all hotels have them. It just is less invasive then being announced by the front desk but it also puts you off the radar of security who are looking to stop working girls who are trying to sneak up to the elevators without being noticed.
The whole point of the example was when you act sneaky and weary it draws more attention and negativity then just being cooperative and friendly.
valleyguy11580
02-21-2011, 08:38 PM
I was just messin' with ya, Emily. I knew what you meant, but it was one of the cutest typos I've ever seen on a hobby board and I couldn't resist.
FlirtyWifeChristine
02-23-2011, 10:24 AM
We can screen someone through a variety of means, the goal in doing so is to make sure you are a safe new friend - ultimately, if we can't feel safe, then we will not meet.
We are different from most ladies since we do not rely on funds from this hobby to pay our mortage and car, so we are always at liberty to pass and never take a date out of desperation.
For our screening, we ask for 2 US based references, along with contact info (links to ads) and a memory jogger.
We also have started asking for a detailed physical description (or a photo) since we have learned that some people trying to userp screening are setting up fake provider ads, and obtaining another guys reference info.
At the end of the day - gentlemen should take their references seriously, and provide them only to well reviewed, established providers.
If references are not available, we then require a full name, and a cell # billed to the name AND the showing of their photo ID when we meet.
If we encounter issues during our multiple rounds of verifying that info, we will ask for more, such as employment info if necessary.
We once had a guy who lacking references gave us a name and # as requested, but in our research, we uncovered 3 different names attached to 3 different phone numbers associated to 3 different address in 3 different states. He was self employed, but then there was no receptionist, the website was a mock-up and had only been "live" for less than a couple months, and the business line was not registered to the business.
He wanted to see us really bad and ultimately offered to double, then triple our rates.
We tried, but in the end, we just felt the run-around put us on high alert and there was no way we could feel comfortable enough to even meet with him in public.
Similarly, we had a married couple who claimed to be very "high profile", but refused to give us any information of any kind other than a loose physical description.
We sent them our non-disclosure agreement and said that until they can get comfortable with us, we cannot be comfortable with them.
Just our 4 cents.
A NDA for a hooker? I remember when hookers would suck you dry for 20 bucks and be grateful for a 2 dollar tip.
This thread is so fucking silly because any half-baked LE could easily get legit business numbers, business cards etc and present them. Most Fortune 100 company security dep't maintain good relationships with LE and do this routinely.
If chicks think this protects them in any way, they are in the wrong business.
valleyguy11580
02-23-2011, 09:12 PM
If chicks think this protects them in any way, they are in the wrong business.
Sounds like the start of another thread, such as "Ladies, do you think screening protects you from LE? Or are you just looking out for suspect hobbyists?"
fairemily
02-24-2011, 08:03 AM
A NDA for a hooker? I remember when hookers would suck you dry for 20 bucks and be grateful for a 2 dollar tip.
Is that when they still sold loosies and you got your action at the Deuce?
This thread is so fucking silly because any half-baked LE could easily get legit business numbers, business cards etc and present them. Most Fortune 100 company security dep't maintain good relationships with LE and do this routinely.
If chicks think this protects them in any way, they are in the wrong business.
You might think we are in the wrong business but your way of thinking is in the wrong decade. Times have changed and we now have better resources to use as do you, it goes both ways.
fairemily
02-24-2011, 08:06 AM
Sounds like the start of another thread, such as "Ladies, do you think screening protects you from LE? Or are you just looking out for suspect hobbyists?"
My concern is mentally unstable or the ill intented before anything else. If you are busted it will be unpleasant but there are far worse things that can happen.
Is that when they still sold loosies and you got your action at the Deuce?
You might think we are in the wrong business but your way of thinking is in the wrong decade. Times have changed and we now have better resources to use as do you, it goes both ways.
..never mind...
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