How to get laid at Amps, Game manual for the game impaired.

[skudd]

Skudd's..." how to get laid at Amps Game manual for the game impaired."

1. Get the TS.(table shower)
2. stand there naked with a boner. They ALL giggle at this.
3. Stick your ass up in the air when they wash your ass crack, if you get a reach under to your boyz, things will be looking up.
4. The more they wash and stroke your johnson the better.
5.When they dry you, move in close with your bone-ster poking them in their tummy's and admonish your monster for being a bad boy. ( more giggles)
6. Right before they lay me down on the table i turn to them and tell them, that i have a really big tip.
7. Always try to touch and make contact while being massaged in a non asshole way. Meaning stroke a leg if you can reach it, a hand, anything ( more giggles)
8. On the flip when they go to lube up Mr. happy, tell them you want them, and you have a condom. They will either say no, or how much, or i cant do that here. No means negotiate a little more in a non asshole way. Some will say I only suck, only this only that. You say... i have REALLY big tip, i want you. Come here take clothes off.
9. At this point you are going to get whatever is on the menu.
10. There are times when you will only get a HE, some of these girls just wont or can not due to management. But i have gotten fucked where others haven't. Hey they told me i was the 1st! lol
11. Keep it light, keep it fun, flirt and see where it takes you. As always YMMV.


Oh and by the way, disregard this manual if visiting a Russian massage parlor in NYC ( ramp) those rules are totally different.

[paperpusher]

Skudd I appreciate your sharing your knowledge, but I think you are reinventing the wheel here. There is far more to it than this, and has been explained over dozens of threads.

These days, it is not very hard to laid at an AMP. It is actually very hard not to (about more than half the girls will do it). Only the legit places pose something of a problem.

The goal more likely is how to get laid at AMP for $100 or less where the girl is young, of quality or give a great perfomence. Getting laid by anybody else, is just a matter of reading the board and ponying it u the fee the girl expects.

[skudd]

Skudd I appreciate your sharing your knowledge, but I think you are reinventing the wheel here. There is far more to it than this, and has been explained over dozens of threads.

These days, it is not very hard to laid at an AMP. It is actually very hard not to (about more than half the girls will do it). Only the legit places pose something of a problem.

The goal more likely is how to get laid at AMP for $100 or less where the girl is young, of quality or give a great perfomence. Getting laid by anybody else, is just a matter of reading the board and ponying it u the fee the girl expects.

Understood, but this is a newbie section. Try to remember when you first walked into one. PLUS, its supposed to be funny.....

[moretti]

Skudd

Thanks.... Very useful

What about the Russian massage places in NYC?

[puffin]

Skudd

Thanks.... Very useful

What about the Russian massage places in NYC?

Either they all suck, or the few good Russians are a closely kept secret. Look for ***, they have some Russkies on staff.

[Thorn]

Skudd's..." how to get laid at Amps Game manual for the game impaired."

1. Get the TS.(table shower)
2. stand there naked with a boner. They ALL giggle at this.
3. Stick your ass up in the air when they wash your ass crack, if you get a reach under to your boyz, things will be looking up.
4. The more they wash and stroke your johnson the better.
5.When they dry you, move in close with your bone-ster poking them in their tummy's and admonish your monster for being a bad boy. ( more giggles)
6. Right before they lay me down on the table i turn to them and tell them, that i have a really big tip.
7. Always try to touch and make contact while being massaged in a non asshole way. Meaning stroke a leg if you can reach it, a hand, anything ( more giggles)
8. On the flip when they go to lube up Mr. happy, tell them you want them, and you have a condom. They will either say no, or how much, or i cant do that here. No means negotiate a little more in a non asshole way. Some will say I only suck, only this only that. You say... i have REALLY big tip, i want you. Come here take clothes off.
9. At this point you are going to get whatever is on the menu.
10. There are times when you will only get a HE, some of these girls just wont or can not due to management. But i have gotten fucked where others haven't. Hey they told me i was the 1st! lol
11. Keep it light, keep it fun, flirt and see where it takes you. As always YMMV.


Oh and by the way, disregard this manual if visiting a Russian massage parlor in NYC ( ramp) those rules are totally different.

You know, I mean no disrespect but I actually talk to some of the massage ladies at the AMP's I have visited and gotten to know both them an any number or mamasans and I can tell you that the vast majority of things you said above they claim they can't stand about their customers. Particularly the poke them with the boner schtick and sticking your ass up in the are [lifting it a tiny bit, perhaps, but popping it up like some longing co-ed hammered on frat beer looking for her first arse rogering from the quarterback of the football team... errr, no].

The rules are:

1) Right from the beginning be friendly and polite.

2) Engage, but remember most of these women do not speak English well. The idea is to put them at ease, not add pressure by forcing them to converse in a tongue of which they have no mastery. Tell her she is pretty. Compliment her on how soft her hands are during the table shower. Flirt in a very non-threatening way that gives them an option to flirt back. Don't force any issues.

3) Despite what everyone says DO leave enough money visible with your watch, glasses, etc [unless it is a place that provides you a locker] to show that you can tip decently. You don't have to say "I have a big tip for you, unless SHE asks about it." The visible money says everything that needs to be said without being insulting about it.

4) IF, and only IF, you feel you have gained a specific amount of trust [she is flirting with you - brushes certain body parts in ways that are obviously less than accidental, etc] then feel free to be more direct about what you want. IF she claims to be shy at first it helps to say you only want to do this because she is more attractive than other women and you can't help desiring her. Its not that she believes it from you, this is a dance you are now performing, it has steps. If she is dancing a foxtrot and you are doing the funky-chicken, NO NOOKIE FOR YOU...

5) I can't frame this other than saying it outright, and if you fail at it you are outside looking in... DO NOT MAKE HER FEEL LIKE A HOOKER. You shouldn't make any woman feel that way. Just don't.

6) If she says no after making your case just accept no. It may pay off with dividends next time. Some Asian providers just don't like doing full service with a client right out of the gate and they are highly unlikely to do so no matter how much money you offer them.

It really boils down, like so much else in life, to having a good antenna. You have so much to start with and you aren't developing any more without experience. There are few 'naturals' out there. You live, you try, you learn.

wishing well...

[pudgy.in.the.middle]

For the unadventureous AKA lazy...

1. Read UG AMP reviews and go to such AMPs that provide HE or FS.
2. Follow the guidelines previously posted and don't act like an arsehole.
3. Provide a review and thank members for prior reviews.
4. If you still have an itch go back to step 1.

Be good,

~Pudgy

[paperpusher]

You know, I mean no disrespect but I actually talk to some of the massage ladies at the AMP's I have visited and gotten to know both them an any number or mamasans and I can tell you that the vast majority of things you said above they claim they can't stand about their customers. Particularly the poke them with the boner schtick and sticking your ass up in the are [lifting it a tiny bit, perhaps, but popping it up like some longing co-ed hammered on frat beer looking for her first arse rogering from the quarterback of the football team... errr, no].

The rules are:

1) Right from the beginning be friendly and polite.

2) Engage, but remember most of these women do not speak English well. The idea is to put them at ease, not add pressure by forcing them to converse in a tongue of which they have no mastery. Tell her she is pretty. Compliment her on how soft her hands are during the table shower. Flirt in a very non-threatening way that gives them an option to flirt back. Don't force any issues.

3) Despite what everyone says DO leave enough money visible with your watch, glasses, etc [unless it is a place that provides you a locker] to show that you can tip decently. You don't have to say "I have a big tip for you, unless SHE asks about it." The visible money says everything that needs to be said without being insulting about it.

4) IF, and only IF, you feel you have gained a specific amount of trust [she is flirting with you - brushes certain body parts in ways that are obviously less than accidental, etc] then feel free to be more direct about what you want. IF she claims to be shy at first it helps to say you only want to do this because she is more attractive than other women and you can't help desiring her. Its not that she believes it from you, this is a dance you are now performing, it has steps. If she is dancing a foxtrot and you are doing the funky-chicken, NO NOOKIE FOR YOU...

5) I can't frame this other than saying it outright, and if you fail at it you are outside looking in... DO NOT MAKE HER FEEL LIKE A HOOKER. You shouldn't make any woman feel that way. Just don't.

6) If she says no after making your case just accept no. It may pay off with dividends next time. Some Asian providers just don't like doing full service with a client right out of the gate and they are highly unlikely to do so no matter how much money you offer them.

It really boils down, like so much else in life, to having a good antenna. You have so much to start with and you aren't developing any more without experience. There are few 'naturals' out there. You live, you try, you learn.

wishing well...

Interesting perspective and I am glad to see your view on these matters. I am board with most of this except number six.

No sometimes means no, except when it doesn't. And if you can figure this out, than you are well on your way to good times. For gweilos, they cant readily give in, not without some semblence of it looking like it is an accident or she was not interested, but it just happenned.

Often the women, knows it is going that direction, but will resist and than stops. If I accepted no, like you said, I would not have gotten laid half the times that I have. The antenae thing is on the money.

Sometimes money does trump the game. The girls are under some financial duress. The game is such, that in alot of cases, you can get a discount for services rendered. The currency used is breaking their boredom between sleeping between rounds and guys that just lie there or grope them. But if you engage them on their level, they may actually think that they are not going in that direction to find out impulsively that they just let it happen. But before they do, they are going to say "no" a few times.

[paperpusher]

Had a recent encounter in Flushing. The women gave HEs with only OTC bottom and top. I also confirmed the limiations with another established reviewer here with the same experience. She said no taking her breasts out of her shrit.

We hit it off and she wanted to please, but she was firm on her limiations. For me, that was silly and most HE women allow more. I did get her breasts out, by virtue I took so long to come that she was prepared to allow anything to get the session ended.

She told me that the place had a policy of allowing such touching (why they have a policy to allow HEs and OTC touching, but not UTR touchins was simply silly to me). IT was a very firm no. I tipped her more than she expected. And asked her that three times, do you want me to come back knowing what I expect. The first time she said no, she rethought it through and asked me to come back. I told her that you know what I am going to do next time. She said, if I do it in such a way that it arouses her, she will try it (saving face). No isnt always no.

[paperpusher]

I agree with the boner poking thing with a new person may be over-the-top. I was with a new person at a legit place where extras are strongly discouraged. The girl has a slightly larger than average chest (but was married). The shirt had a low cleavage. After getting to the point where we were checking each other muscles, arm pit hair etc, I told her that her chest was big for a chinese woman and would she mind if I took a closer look. She gave a very quick nod and smiled. I showed her my erection and than took the towel to playfully cover my eyes (indicating that she was so attactive and that was the only way I could control myself, corny yes but works). She than hugged me and it lead to more mileage later in the session (nothing more than touch and feel).

There are many ways to skin a cat.

[mrtaiwan]

My observations:

1. Few say yes on the first try. However see Richard Feynman's technique.

2. It's often easier to get them to actually do something than to get them to say something or to get them to agree to do something.

3. Always be willing to move on but keep the good ones as long as possible.

4. Make friends with her friends.

5. It doesn't have to be complicated to get what you want.

[Stockbroker]

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[Stockbroker]

Either they all suck, or the few good Russians are a closely kept secret. Look for ***, they have some Russkies on staff.

Puffin - what's the deal with RAMPS anyway? They charge ridiculous fees 160-180 for just a jerk off. It kind of pisses me off as I have a thing for russian/non-asians. I can go down the block and get almost anything from an AMP for .40+tip. I went on a russian spree a while back and dropped almost a grand on about 6 places total only. Didnt get any further than feeling boobs around the bra area. Total jip. They can get snippy if you try to explore. Hard to find an UTR RAMP, and even if I did, I bet the prices wouldn't be any better, if not worse.

[paperpusher]

My observations:

1. Few say yes on the first try. However see Richard Feynman's technique.

2. It's often easier to get them to actually do something than to get them to say something or to get them to agree to do something.

3. Always be willing to move on but keep the good ones as long as possible.

4. Make friends with her friends.

5. It doesn't have to be complicated to get what you want.

Who is Richard Feynman?

I tried the introduction to the friend thing, they mostly look at me like I am strange. There is no way that the girl would want their friend to know what I am doing to her. LOL You seem to have a good technique going.

If you do not want it to get complicated, you are going to pay. The complications are involved in getting lower prices or gratis.

[puffin]

Who is Richard Feynman?

I tried the introduction to the friend thing, they mostly look at me like I am strange. There is no way that the girl would want their friend to know what I am doing to her. LOL You seem to have a good technique going.

If you do not want it to get complicated, you are going to pay. The complications are involved in getting lower prices or gratis.

Dick Feyman: Nobel Laurete, sometime monger, developer of Quantum Electrodynamics (QED), and all around classy guy. The only man who can (could) speak with a thick Long Island accent and not sound like a total jamoke. In fact he sounds downright eloquent.

(And he was of the era when it wasn't considered odd to shorten Richard to Dick).

[paperpusher]

Dick Feyman: Nobel Laurete, sometime monger, developer of Quantum Electrodynamics (QED), and all around classy guy. The only man who can (could) speak with a thick Long Island accent and not sound like a total jamoke. In fact he sounds downright eloquent.

(And he was of the era when it wasn't considered odd to shorten Richard to Dick).

Thank you for the explanation. I have often thought, that average person on UG has a higher IQ than the average population. They just happen to be a horny bunch.

[skudd]

So if you re-read what i said. Its all done in a 'non asshole way' and .... about the boner pushing thing... you can not seriously tell me that when you are standing there bare ass naked after an arousing table shower that your stick isnt at attention. And for fucks sake this is the funny shit that happens all the time, nothing is written in stone.

No sometimes means no, but never at first...... when it does you can really tell that it does because the girl is "firm" ... then that is that.

My personal experience is that 99 percent of the time i have been flirted with and touched, even when they say no at first. Several times its led to FS when none was available. So you just have to use your instincts. Besides its not that "heavy" a deal, jeeeez have a sense of fuckin' humor, smile, be polite, keep it light and have fun.

Fun being the key word. Lighten up mongers! and happy new year! Lets leave the elitist Mensa wanna be bullshit for the financial blog i participate in. sheesh.

[Thorn]

Interesting perspective and I am glad to see your view on these matters.

Thank you.

I am board with most of this except number six.

No sometimes means no, except when it doesn't. And if you can figure this out, than you are well on your way to good times. For gweilos, they cant readily give in, not without some semblence of it looking like it is an accident or she was not interested, but it just happenned.

Often the women, knows it is going that direction, but will resist and than stops. If I accepted no, like you said, I would not have gotten laid half the times that I have. The antenae thing is on the money.

Yes, but that is precisely my point. If you take #6 in the context laid out in #4 ["she may act shy at first"] you see what I mean, but let me be more specific. When your antenna tells you she actually means no, accept no for the answer. It may pay off in dividends later on.


Sometimes money does trump the game.

It can, but if what you are seeking is quality forcing folks into corners, even though they profit, is unlikely to heighten your experience. Resulting in that you may get what you want, but not how you want it. It is best to recall these are Asian women you are dealing with. It helps with anyone to give them options so their choices, though they may benefit you, are their idea. Never is this as true than with Asian providers.

So in such cases where I am not getting the whole enchilada, providing I want the whole enchilada, I give incentive not coercion. I tip a bit better than what they might expect. Not a lot, just enough to show good faith, and I tell them that if we can trust each other and become better friends I will appreciate it even more. Ball is now in their court. If the quality of the session goes up next time I know we are on the same wavelength. Not so, I see someone else next time.

BTW, it doesn't hurt to tip Mamasan in some way once in awhile.

When I went to AMPs, using these methods I define above, I received top notch services. Was always well received. Got numbers given to me by providers to see them outside the AMP, etc and so forth.

[puffin]

...BTW, it doesn't hurt to tip Mamasan in some way once in awhile...

I am guessing that these girls appreciate good take out food. I have never offered such a treat, but I have hung out with mamasan watching TV and drinking some sort of godawful alcoholic gruel made from rice.

[paperpusher]

Thorn, when you did take out, where did you end up? Getting a women to have sex is not hard (after playing in the AMP arena for 25 years). Finding the place to consumate the act, usually was my stumbling block.

Each Mamasan has discusions with the women as to the limitations of the place. I have absolutely no idea how they create these "lines in the sand" or company policy as was told to me recently, since once you provide HE services, they have crossed the line in the eyes of the law.

Now I usually get them to much farther than what the Mamasan has communicated as acceptable, that they usually are either suspicious or frown me when I go to their shop.
Tipping them will not alter much, since they are more fearful for their jobs, if what I do gets back to their boss. This is one of the reasons I try to convert the AMP massues to takeout.

[Thorn]

I am guessing that these girls appreciate good take out food. I have never offered such a treat, but I have hung out with mamasan watching TV and drinking some sort of godawful alcoholic gruel made from rice.

I've brought good kimchi with me on occasion. It always seemed to be highly appreciated.

[Thorn]

Thorn, when you did take out, where did you end up? Getting a women to have sex is not hard (after playing in the AMP arena for 25 years). Finding the place to consumate the act, usually was my stumbling block.



When I have gone the extra step to see someone outside the AMP it was because I found that person to be interesting enough to want to get to know them better, not just the sex. So we would do things like dine out, etc and the sex, when it took place, would take place in their home.

[paperpusher]

When I have gone the extra step to see someone outside the AMP it was because I found that person to be interesting enough to want to get to know them better, not just the sex. So we would do things like dine out, etc and the sex, when it took place, would take place in their home.

The problem I have, is that they are either married and obviously that is not possible, or they live with three or more people. I am about to have this very problem now. Other than a hotel, which is not easy to get hold of in Flushing for short stay, I amy soon be out of options. The 40th Rd post will explain in detail why.

[moretti]

These are terrific tips. Thanks guys.

Recently I found a very clean almost brand new AMP place in Westchester. The place was modern and spotless. They said it was 6 months old, but looked like it was 6 days from brand new. Cleanest bathroom, shower area, massage room I have ever seen.

So...I was worried that it would be all legit, but when I met the trim Korean gal, she was all smiles and fun.

The TS was the best ever with lots of cleaning in the sensitive places, both when I was face down and face up.

Curiously, neither the mamasan nor the gal wanted to take the fee before the session started (.7 per hour).

Anyway, she was so friendly, that I just choose to sit on the massage table and she came over for a hug and then proceded to do wonderful things for 45 minutes concentrating on sensitive parts, and then a first class massage of feet shoulders, etc.

She allowed me to kiss her breast for about 20 seconds and then put it away. Her nips were very responsive.

It was terrific and I tipped well.

This seems to have potential. I have never gotten to bj or FS before at an amp...but maybe.

By the way, I am new to this board. I have mostly used TER.

I am trying to figure it out. How detailed are reviews supposed to be, for example?

[pudgy.in.the.middle]

I've brought good kimchi with me on occasion. It always seemed to be highly appreciated.

Kimchi is a nice jesture, but most KMP attendants get it in bulk from the H-Marts. Pudgy's universal heart thru stomach gift is fresh fruit. They seem to really dig the more exotic type. I find star fruit, papaya and guava get a big thrill out of them.

[paperpusher]

These are terrific tips. Thanks guys.

Recently I found a very clean almost brand new AMP place in Westchester. The place was modern and spotless. They said it was 6 months old, but looked like it was 6 days from brand new. Cleanest bathroom, shower area, massage room I have ever seen.

So...I was worried that it would be all legit, but when I met the trim Korean gal, she was all smiles and fun.

The TS was the best ever with lots of cleaning in the sensitive places, both when I was face down and face up.

Curiously, neither the mamasan nor the gal wanted to take the fee before the session started (.7 per hour).

Anyway, she was so friendly, that I just choose to sit on the massage table and she came over for a hug and then proceded to do wonderful things for 45 minutes concentrating on sensitive parts, and then a first class massage of feet shoulders, etc.

She allowed me to kiss her breast for about 20 seconds and then put it away. Her nips were very responsive.

It was terrific and I tipped well.

This seems to have potential. I have never gotten to bj or FS before at an amp...but maybe.

By the way, I am new to this board. I have mostly used TER.

I am trying to figure it out. How detailed are reviews supposed to be, for example?


My friend, I recognize that you are new to the world of AMPs. I strongly suggest you read the LI AMP section for what is possible and techniques that get you there. You will be estatic what is possible and how much less it will cost you.

About 50% of the women provide greater extras (more FS than BJs) and you just need to work out your technique. Some places. all you need is to flash the money.

But it is always great when you first start the AMP experience, because the beginning is the time when you have the most fun with it.

Happy hunting.

[pudgy.in.the.middle]

The problem I have, is that they are either married and obviously that is not possible, or they live with three or more people. I am about to have this very problem now. Other than a hotel, which is not easy to get hold of in Flushing for short stay, I amy soon be out of options. The 40th Rd post will explain in detail why.

PP:

I am truly amazed by your and others here need to dance on the razor's edge near the flame. I've had my fill of thrill seeking but what you guys are attempting is equivalent to a suicide mission. Perhaps, being closely involved with too many divorces and their resulting apocalypse scares me from getting in too deep in that part of the hobby.


Be good,

Pudgy

[paperpusher]

PP:

I am truly amazed by your and others here need to dance on the razor's edge near the flame. I've had my fill of thrill seeking but what you guys are attempting is equivalent to a suicide mission. Perhaps, being closely involved with too many divorces and their resulting apocalypse scares me from getting in too deep in that part of the hobby.


Be good,

Pudgy

I understand the sentiment, but not the reasoning. My risks are not as high as you think, other than the possibility of bringing home a STD. The other outcomes are very remote.

I have made a personal decision, that without hobbying, my quality of life goes done significantly and fully understand that there is a real chance that my actions will lead to a divorce. I also have come to understand about myself, that I need this stimulation that life is dull without it.

[pudgy.in.the.middle]

I understand the sentiment, but not the reasoning. My risks are not as high as you think, other than the possibility of bringing home a STD. The other outcomes are very remote.

I have made a personal decision, that without hobbying, my quality of life goes done significantly and fully understand that there is a real chance that my actions will lead to a divorce. I also have come to understand about myself, that I need this stimulation that life is dull without it.


My commentary was based on having a take out "theatre of operations" that is frequently visited by your SO or civvies. It is easy to explain being caught in Flushing alone, but near impossible when you are with a provider on your way to a love nest.

[fortydog]

Kimchi is a nice jesture, but most KMP attendants get it in bulk from the H-Marts. Pudgy's universal heart thru stomach gift is fresh fruit. They seem to really dig the more exotic type. I find star fruit, papaya and guava get a big thrill out of them.

Try a durian next time. That's pretty exotic ;)

[fortydog]

If you are looking for more extras, directly asking works surprisingly well.

I almost always let the girl lead the way at first. Once she's pretty certain you're not LE and is touching your privates, politely asking for what you want is a good method.

[puffin]

If you are looking for more extras, directly asking works surprisingly well.

I almost always let the girl lead the way at first. Once she's pretty certain you're not LE and is touching your privates, politely asking for what you want is a good method.

Be polite to the girl, be honest in communicating what you would like while staying mindful of the fact that she is free to refuse you. Let her know that you have no intention of being abusive or rude and treat her with some degree of sensitivity and simple human compassion.

Is this rocket science?

[zentrickster]

I have brought my UTR indy Longans, Lechees, Mango, etc..

I prepared some dessert for Christmas eve dinner, and I made a little plate for her.. Saw her on Christmas day..

She had never had Tiramisu before....couldn't believe how good it was, and that I made it!..

I received many extra extras that session ;-)

[puffin]

Try a durian next time. That's pretty exotic ;)

I hear even many asians find them nauseating (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durian).

[backseat]

If you are looking for more extras, directly asking works surprisingly well.

I almost always let the girl lead the way at first. Once she's pretty certain you're not LE and is touching your privates, politely asking for what you want is a good method.

I remember when I was new at this, I was sweet talking, thinking I was going to get more, and she said "look I'm pretty much a sure thing at this point"
I now know to look for that point.

[mrtaiwan]

I tried the introduction to the friend thing, they mostly look at me like I am strange. There is no way that the girl would want their friend to know what I am doing to her. LOL You seem to have a good technique going.

At some point she will mention her friend(s). Offer to take your date and her friend to dinner.

Sometimes it's better to go with an Asian restaurant but sometimes a western or European restaurant is best. Most of the girls are curious about food and you can become the gateway to them learning about new and delicious food. Trust me, 99% have never eaten in an Italian or Greek restaurant.

[skudd]

Well seeing that i struck out getting a provider at the last minute, my SO is working, i am heading to an AMP right now... later mongers... and happy new year! I got an itch that needs to be scratched.

[Thorn]

Kimchi is a nice jesture, but most KMP attendants get it in bulk from the H-Marts. Pudgy's universal heart thru stomach gift is fresh fruit. They seem to really dig the more exotic type. I find star fruit, papaya and guava get a big thrill out of them.

Good idea. I plan to usurp it if I get back on the AMP kick again. :)

[J. Lefty]

I hear even many asians find them nauseating (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durian).


How bout a box of Korean (asian) Pears? They must be in season now, I bought from a an H-Mart, a box of 8 for $20.

[John Dough]

I always found a high level of success on my second or third visit.

On my first time with a a girl I rarely try for extras. I go to new spa's to get a good massage and determine if they have quality girls.

If I find the girl was fun and sexy, I will return within 10 days and request her, they are usually very happy to get a return customer and the experience is better, will then make a move for extras and I find my success rate with this approach is much higher than on a first visit. As other have said, they need to be comfortable with you and always have a fun playful attitude.

when I am really in the mood for FS, i just go to a FS establishment. But it can be more fun to get an AMP girl to do FS, when it is not their normal service.

On a related note, there was a girl who worked at Gold Spa in 2007, I used to always get BBBJ from her, and sometimes FS. She gave me her number before she quit, and I visited her at another spa she worked at in Jersey.
The first time I went to her new location she was afraid to give extras, told me it was not allowed. But the second time I went I was able to get FS, but It was not as fun as at Golds, because she was too worried about being caught, wanted to finish fast and after a few minutes asked me to cum. I decided not to even bother trying for FS on later sessions, since she was obviously not comfortable doing it there, but she would still give me head.

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My experience has been that after the 3rd or 4th visit to an amp, I have a high degree of certainty of being offer bbbj and bbfs or a 3sum.