470 Hawkins Avenue

[jamesfromny]

After getting shot down two weeks ago at another Suffolk AMP, little James was willing to try again. Saw a brief ad on CL which read:@@@Pretty Girls & Professional Massage (Ronkonkoma)
Amazing Experience!
Try our different Massage!

Young Girls
New Place

$40/hal hour; $60/hour

call 631-882-9826 I called today, and got the address: 470 Hawkins. I drove by thinking it was the awful place that used to be next to the bagel shop, but this is closer to Portion Rd, right next door to a Greek restaurant, and from the banging sounds I heard the whole time, I think a Kung Fu place is on the other side. Front door was open and I just walked in, though all the windows were covered with a thin white sheet. It turns out that this was their opening day, and it looks like they're planning to stay a while, because they printed up business cards, and have a big sign out front, "Feeling Facial Spa".

The place smells freshly painted, and there was a chinese guy on a ladder fixing the lights. There are 3 to 4 rooms with walls that stop 6 inches from the ceiling, with nothing but curtains for doors, so everything was hush-hush. Not my favorite design. Everyone would prefer a solid door that can be closed, but I wasn't giving up hope just yet. I've had FS at places with curtains.

I was greeted by a very cute young Chinese girl named Eva, who introduced me to May, who was definitely a little older but also very cute. May has hair down to her shoulders and is probably in her early 30's. She had a very nice body, B cups and a tight little ass that just wanted to be held. I wouldn't call her skinny, but since I don't really like thin petite girls that much, I was enjoying May's better than average body. In the light after the session, I could see her face more clearly, and would rate it a 6, and her body a 7.

Before any payment was made, I sat on the table, and pulled her between my legs holding her ass. After she convinced me to stay for the full hour, I held her hand to little James OTC and asked, "OK?" just to be sure. She nodded with her eyes, and took my cash. She was nothing but adorable the whole time, and made me feel right at home. She didn't insist that I lay face down, but let me stay sitting on the edge of the table for the first half hour while she worked on James Jr. She was a trooper, but I could see she was getting a little tired. No complaints, mind you, just smiles, and kisses, and pleasant conversation througout. I let go after the 30 mins, and layed down face up for a massage afterward.

She seemed to allow heavy OTC up and down, but was very shy about UTC up top. UTC down below was off limits, though I did slide my hand down the back. She kept looking towards the curtain every time I raised her shirt. When I didn't waste time, she let me take out one of the girls and allowed me to suck on one huge nip, but not for long. When holding her face, she started sucking on my fingers - which immediately prompted the BJ question. No amount offered was accepted. Extras were not available on this first visit. But her good attitude towards the HE and roaming makes me think that with a few visits, she'll be more comfortable.

The massage was nice. I promised I'd get a real one on my second visit. She climbed up top and pretended to cowgirl me as she rubbed my chest. She showered me with affection and I couldn't help but enjoy it and promise to return. 60/40, but she'd have taken less. I know 40 is alot for what was essentially just a HE, but she went above and beyond to make me feel good, and did a good job. So I don't mind rewarding with a little extra.

I recommend this place for Looselarry, Teps, BStinson, and the other Suffolk AMP mongers. Thanks to Genius for teaching us to ask for what we want.

[celtic knight]

What is with the curtains? It seems as though every amp that opens has curtains, not doors.

[smoke2]

After getting shot down two weeks ago at another Suffolk AMP, little James was willing to try again. Saw a brief ad on CL which read: I called today, and got the address: 470 Hawkins. I drove by thinking it was the awful place that used to be next to the bagel shop, but this is closer to Portion Rd, right next door to a Greek restaurant, and from the banging sounds I heard the whole time, I think a Kung Fu place is on the other side. Front door was open and I just walked in, though all the windows were covered with a thin white sheet. It turns out that this was their opening day, and it looks like they're planning to stay a while, because they printed up business cards, and have a big sign out front, "Feeling Facial Spa".

The place smells freshly painted, and there was a chinese guy on a ladder fixing the lights. There are 3 to 4 rooms with walls that stop 6 inches from the ceiling, with nothing but curtains for doors, so everything was hush-hush. Not my favorite design. Everyone would prefer a solid door that can be closed, but I wasn't giving up hope just yet. I've had FS at places with curtains.

I was greeted by a very cute young Chinese girl named Eva, who introduced me to May, who was definitely a little older but also very cute. May has hair down to her shoulders and is probably in her early 30's. She had a very nice body, B cups and a tight little ass that just wanted to be held. I wouldn't call her skinny, but since I don't really like thin petite girls that much, I was enjoying May's better than average body. In the light after the session, I could see her face more clearly, and would rate it a 6, and her body a 7.

Before any payment was made, I sat on the table, and pulled her between my legs holding her ass. After she convinced me to stay for the full hour, I held her hand to little James OTC and asked, "OK?" just to be sure. She nodded with her eyes, and took my cash. She was nothing but adorable the whole time, and made me feel right at home. She didn't insist that I lay face down, but let me stay sitting on the edge of the table for the first half hour while she worked on James Jr. She was a trooper, but I could see she was getting a little tired. No complaints, mind you, just smiles, and kisses, and pleasant conversation througout. I let go after the 30 mins, and layed down face up for a massage afterward.

She seemed to allow heavy OTC up and down, but was very shy about UTC up top. UTC down below was off limits, though I did slide my hand down the back. She kept looking towards the curtain every time I raised her shirt. When I didn't waste time, she let me take out one of the girls and allowed me to suck on one huge nip, but not for long. When holding her face, she started sucking on my fingers - which immediately prompted the BJ question. No amount offered was accepted. Extras were not available on this first visit. But her good attitude towards the HE and roaming makes me think that with a few visits, she'll be more comfortable.

The massage was nice. I promised I'd get a real one on my second visit. She climbed up top and pretended to cowgirl me as she rubbed my chest. She showered me with affection and I couldn't help but enjoy it and promise to return. 60/40, but she'd have taken less. I know 40 is alot for what was essentially just a HE, but she went above and beyond to make me feel good, and did a good job. So I don't mind rewarding with a little extra.

I recommend this place for Looselarry, Teps, BStinson, and the other Suffolk AMP mongers. Thanks to Genius for teaching us to ask for what we want.

I always enjoy when a fellow monger put down what he thinks is the age of the provider and then when the place gets busted and Newsday prints the info of these very dangerous criminals we find that what we thought was early 30's is actually 47

[jamesfromny]

...what we thought was early 30's is actually 47

Hah! Too True. However I've already added a few years to my estimate. My first guess was mid 20's, but I added in the 30% Chinese age factor.

[jdw]

Curtains(white sheet) seem to be the new thing as a door is too much of an investment. The new place on Sunrise(139 East) in Lindenhurst is the same.

[Yellodog]

Walls to the ceiling and doors require a building permit. Sheets and walls short of ceiling do not. In many areas AMPs are simply shut down for building code violations. This prevents reopening with new girls plus the fines are very steep.

[MikeLuvsIt]

Is there a review for that new place on Sunrise in Lindenhurst mentioned here?

[Cassady1025]

I just went to 470 Hawkins, and I had a different experience to Jamesfromny. I had a session with Eva. Eva is very young and pretty and totally green. She just received training for massage and doing ladies nails. She has no experience with HE or the other nasty things we mongers expect. As a result I have a reasonable case of blue balls right now.

The massage started, no towel. Her massage skill is not great. There were several interruptions, both phone and walk in, and she explained that the other girl didnt speak english, but she assured me she would take care of me. She asked me to flip fairly quickly with no tickles. She put a towel over my crotch and started lightly massaging my stomach. After about 2 minutes on that side, and me making the regular moves to signal for her to start the erotic procedings, she pointed to the towel and said that she didn't do that. I expressed my disappointment and she wanted me to do it which I refused. After another minute she told me she would do it but she made me swear there would be no trouble. I actually had to hold up my hand and swear to Jesus that I would not make trouble for her. No problem. Then she wanted to know how much I would pay her for troubles and I held up 4 fingers and she nodded.

So she started to work on me, but she obviously had no reasonable technique. After about 4 minutes she confided in me that she didn't know what she was doing, she had not done this before and she needed someone to show her what to do. So I started working on myself and I motioned her over so I could play with her ass. She was very resistant to me reaching under her pants, but I actually got to feel half a naked ass cheek (which felt quite fine) as I worked on myself, but she was so nervous and distracting that I gave up after a short time and told her it was ok and stopped working and pulled up her pants. She finished with a few minutes of lame massage and she promised me she would learn and do a good job next time.

She was sweet enough, and she was encouraging for me to come back to see her. When it came time to get dressed she wasn't around to help me but she returned with water. When I was fully dressed I took out a $20 and gave it to her. She was quite upset that I reneged on the original offer. But I told her she did not complete the job. I felt bad for her, but from a business perspective I feel I did not receive the full service for which I agreed to pay $40. Do you guys agree, or should I have given her the agreed to price?

[itsjustme]

I have to say that I think what you did was fair... she didn't perform the services you "contracted" for and she didn't inform you that she did not have the ability to perform the services. In the end, it appears from what you're saying that she was okay and understood that she did not provide what you wanted.

I have run into this situation myself with new AMP workers and the green ones are a challenge but I have taught a few how to give a proper HE.

I usually take their hand and actually show them different moves and I explain what is sensitive, how to to vary their hand positions, etc.

I often find that the next time I visit their skills are vastly improved.

[Cassady1025]

I have to say that I think what you did was fair... she didn't perform the services you "contracted" for and she didn't inform you that she did not have the ability to perform the services. In the end, it appears from what you're saying that she was okay and understood that she did not provide what you wanted.

I have run into this situation myself with new AMP workers and the green ones are a challenge but I have taught a few how to give a proper HE.

I usually take their hand and actually show them different moves and I explain what is sensitive, how to to vary their hand positions, etc.

I often find that the next time I visit their skills are vastly improved.


The girl seemed very unhappy and did not understand why I wouldn't give her the extra 20, and she was not nice about it. So I would hesitate to go back.

As far as teaching technique, I would be happy to do that, but she was so nervous - looking at the sheet that led to the hall and trying to hurry me up that it would have been a waste of time. Also my belly is too big, I cant really see what Im doing.

And damn how long does it take for the discomfort to go away when you get blue balls.

[Cheezewhiz]

The cure for BB is
You have to have someone run off another batch and those bad boys will be hangin down by your knees

[BadBoy]

Did someone mention badboy?

[paperpusher]

I think you know the answer to your question. Why would you invest money in a person with inadequate skills both massage and erotic, when there are plenty of providers that will do substantially more (of course respecting your limits). At 41 John St, you could get FS,better massage for $80 tip with a girl 28-32 years old. You are tippping this girl $40 and got what? And this girl had an attitude and wouldnt even shed her clothes. Sounds like some of the other girls are telling her that tips are higher and services are lower than what has become established norms on LI.

Chances are that this girl will be taking takeout orders from fast food Chinese restaurants in a few years. It is because so many LIers overtip, and I mean some tip $80 for a hand job(because they have no clue what the tip stucture is and happy somone is willing to touch their fluids), that you get girls like this.

[Cheezewhiz]

[QUOTE=******;873723]I think you know the answer to your question. Why would you invest money in a person with inadequate skills both massage and erotic, when there are plenty of providers that will do substantially more (of course respecting your limits). At 41 John St, you could get FS,better massage for $80 tip with a girl 28-32 years old. You are tippping this girl $40 and got what? And this girl had an attitude and wouldnt even shed her clothes. Sounds like some of the other girls are telling her that tips are higher and services are lower than what has become established norms on LI.

****** = explain how to get more Bang for your buck
I like it

[BStinson]

After getting shot down two weeks ago at another Suffolk AMP, little James was willing to try again. Saw a brief ad on CL which read: I called today, and got the address: 470 Hawkins. I drove by thinking it was the awful place that used to be next to the bagel shop, but this is closer to Portion Rd, right next door to a Greek restaurant, and from the banging sounds I heard the whole time, I think a Kung Fu place is on the other side. Front door was open and I just walked in, though all the windows were covered with a thin white sheet. It turns out that this was their opening day, and it looks like they're planning to stay a while, because they printed up business cards, and have a big sign out front, "Feeling Facial Spa".

The place smells freshly painted, and there was a chinese guy on a ladder fixing the lights. There are 3 to 4 rooms with walls that stop 6 inches from the ceiling, with nothing but curtains for doors, so everything was hush-hush. Not my favorite design. Everyone would prefer a solid door that can be closed, but I wasn't giving up hope just yet. I've had FS at places with curtains.

I was greeted by a very cute young Chinese girl named Eva, who introduced me to May, who was definitely a little older but also very cute. May has hair down to her shoulders and is probably in her early 30's. She had a very nice body, B cups and a tight little ass that just wanted to be held. I wouldn't call her skinny, but since I don't really like thin petite girls that much, I was enjoying May's better than average body. In the light after the session, I could see her face more clearly, and would rate it a 6, and her body a 7.

Before any payment was made, I sat on the table, and pulled her between my legs holding her ass. After she convinced me to stay for the full hour, I held her hand to little James OTC and asked, "OK?" just to be sure. She nodded with her eyes, and took my cash. She was nothing but adorable the whole time, and made me feel right at home. She didn't insist that I lay face down, but let me stay sitting on the edge of the table for the first half hour while she worked on James Jr. She was a trooper, but I could see she was getting a little tired. No complaints, mind you, just smiles, and kisses, and pleasant conversation througout. I let go after the 30 mins, and layed down face up for a massage afterward.

She seemed to allow heavy OTC up and down, but was very shy about UTC up top. UTC down below was off limits, though I did slide my hand down the back. She kept looking towards the curtain every time I raised her shirt. When I didn't waste time, she let me take out one of the girls and allowed me to suck on one huge nip, but not for long. When holding her face, she started sucking on my fingers - which immediately prompted the BJ question. No amount offered was accepted. Extras were not available on this first visit. But her good attitude towards the HE and roaming makes me think that with a few visits, she'll be more comfortable.

The massage was nice. I promised I'd get a real one on my second visit. She climbed up top and pretended to cowgirl me as she rubbed my chest. She showered me with affection and I couldn't help but enjoy it and promise to return. 60/40, but she'd have taken less. I know 40 is alot for what was essentially just a HE, but she went above and beyond to make me feel good, and did a good job. So I don't mind rewarding with a little extra.

I recommend this place for Looselarry, Teps, BStinson, and the other Suffolk AMP mongers. Thanks to Genius for teaching us to ask for what we want.

I appreciate the heads up on this place. It is sooo close to home. I will pay a visit shortly.

[jamesfromny]

I appreciate the heads up on this place. It is sooo close to home. I will pay a visit shortly.

Report back when you do. I hope it goes well.

[the-hundred-handed]

someone should sell all of the massage places on easily installed modular systems (aka cubicles).

i tried to come up w/ a dirty name for it, but ive got nothing....

[paperpusher]

[QUOTE=******;873723]I think you know the answer to your question. Why would you invest money in a person with inadequate skills both massage and erotic, when there are plenty of providers that will do substantially more (of course respecting your limits). At 41 John St, you could get FS,better massage for $80 tip with a girl 28-32 years old. You are tippping this girl $40 and got what? And this girl had an attitude and wouldnt even shed her clothes. Sounds like some of the other girls are telling her that tips are higher and services are lower than what has become established norms on LI.

****** = explain how to get more Bang for your buck
I like it

I dont want to hijack this thread. But read the thread about 41 John Street. Bring $120 ($40 for house and $80tip) and a condom. Just take 10 minutes of the massage as a way to get to know each other and just pull down her pants. Then come back and post if I was exagerating. Plenty have done it already.

[genius]

[QUOTE=Cheezewhiz;873757]

... Bring $120 ($40 for house and $80tip) and a condom. Just take 10 minutes of the massage as a way to get to know each other and just pull down her pants. .....Nah - save the 10 minutes for masssage for after you are done doing her.

[paperpusher]

[QUOTE=******;873908]Nah - save the 10 minutes for masssage for after you are done doing her.


Have you been there more than that one time you posted? You had mentioned that you are looking for the challenge and there is none here.

[genius]

[QUOTE=genius;873946]


Have you been there more than that one time you posted? You had mentioned that you are looking for the challenge and there is none here.Yes - I went there one more time - did Sherri(?) - bit older than Linda. She wanted to start the massage right away - but I wanted what I wanted and I got the massage after.

Both are very hot and pleasant women.

Alas - the thrill is gone and I won't be back.

[TheRicker]

someone should sell all of the massage places on easily installed modular systems (aka cubicles).

i tried to come up w/ a dirty name for it, but ive got nothing....


Stick in Boxes or Quick Box:)

[LorenzoDeMedici]

Quick N Handy Rooms Unlimited

[daengman]

just call them Handy Rooms. In an AMP that name would take on a double meaning.

[jamesfromny]

Well, I don't know about you guys, but this is my new favorite place. I rarely have time to travel to Nassau for the more common FS locations, and this is more mileage than I've seen above the radar in Suffolk in years. Up the street, Helen & Michelle have offered as much, but demand much higher tips for much worse service. There's none of that tip-teasing here, and their attitude is much better. I'm also sick of being interrupted every time the phone or doorbell rings, which has yet to happen to me with May at 470.

Some updates to my earlier description: Parking is available on the street or behind the building near the OTB or one of the many nearby stripmalls. There is also a back door entrance for those that prefer it (no innuendo intended). May's hair is longer than I thought, and she is well trained, friendly, and accomodating. She also offers much more than I saw on my initial visit.

I may have scored some brownie points here this morning when I voluntarily postponed my session: I walked in without an appt, and May showed me to a curtained room right away. Eva then greeted another monger who said he'd just called, and took him to one of the other rooms. (BTW, Eva has a bad habit of saying your phone number out loud, so I apologize for overhearing. I made a point not to give her any info for her record book) As soon as I had gotten comfortable, I heard a 3rd monger enter and get turned away despite his having an appointment. Eva told him to have lunch next door and come back in an hour. Yikes! I was starting to feel bad for monger #2 when seconds later, a 4th monger came in to pull Eva away from his session. (It seems that since Eva speaks English better, your sessions with her are more likely to be interrupted.) This 4th monger opted to stay and wait despite having a scheduled appointment. I told May that I would rather they service their appointments than me. Besides, I had lots of free time this morning and didn't mind waiting. May showed her appreciation with an unexpected LFK, which took me by surprise. It's the affection that turns me on, I think. My apologies to that 3rd and 4th monger for mucking up their schedule. Not sure if this is common, but Eva doesn't seem to honor appointements too well.

I cashed in those brownie points an hour and a half later when I noticed that May had sweat-pants on today instead of those tight jeans she had on last Monday. The other nice touch was when I asked for no oil during the short massage afterward, she used her tounge instead. BBJ and FS are not on the menu, but found myself within an inch from each. It was a double cupper with DATY and pretend CG, and heavy UTC and DFK, though, not in that order. She was attentive with a hot towel following each cup. I tipped her 40, because once again, she gave more than expected and I left floating on a retard-cloud.

[MikeLuvsIt]

Nice review James. Sounds like this place is getting too popular with all that morning activity! May's English is not that good or is it non-existent?

[Cassady1025]

Well, I don't know about you guys, but this is my new favorite place. ....

James, you lucked out with this place. Your review of May sounded so good I tried the place again, hoping not to run afoul of Eva because of problems from my last visit. This visit went even more poorly than the first. I called and asked for May and Eva told me it would be 20 minutes, so I gave them 25 minutes and when I got there both girls were busy and both peeked out of their rooms to see me.

Eva let me into thier 3rd room and told me May would be 20 more minutes. So I waited. When May showed up she proceded to give me a reasonable massage but I could hear her talking the whole time to Eva who was just on the other side of the partition. When it came time for the flip there was no erotic play and May was resistant to my suggestions that she give me the R&T I was looking for.

For sure I had been marked and I realized this and tried to defuse the situation and I had Eva come in and I suggested they do a 4 handed HR. There was much confused discussion and miscommunication mixed signals and no satisfaction. After about 5 minutes of this I got up and dressed and told them to forget it.

So the funny part is when I gave May a $10 tip ( a resonble tip for a simple massage) she looked at me the way I look at my deadbeat customers when they don't pay their bills. This made me quite mad and I tried to tell her that I was the customer and ANY tip I gave her was a gift that she should be happy about. These girls need a serious attitude readjustment.

The topper is that 5 minutes after I left I get a phone call from Eva to tell me I should come in now. So I let her have it. In a raised voice I told her that #1 she should not be calling my cell phone, and that #2 when I give them a tip they should say thankyou, not ask for more. Then I hung up. At least I got the pleasure of yelling at someone I was mad at.

Moral of the story is that if you go to this place I hope you get off to the right start as Jamesfromny did and maybe you can get the mileage he got. But I think there is a very basic problem with this place and these girls don't have the proper outlook or composure to stay in the business.

[jamesfromny]

...Your review of May sounded so good I tried the place again...

... I think there is a very basic problem with this place and these girls don't have the proper outlook or composure to stay in the business.

I'm sorry that I led you in to that bad experience. I have to agree with you that Eva is not very discreet or customer minded. On my way out, trying to avoid meeting monger#4 in the lobby, I motioned to Eva that I'll hang out in the bathroom while she rooms the next guy. She had no idea what I meant, and thought I wanted to wait in the bathroom for an hour. She is either not very bright, or hasn't run a business before. She's definitely the less experienced of the two, but probably handles the customers because she's the only one that speaks English fairly well.

I got the sense during my last session with May, that Eva wants to keep the place legit. She said she used to work at a nail/facial spa - not massage. May was only hesitant and tugged at the edges of the curtain when Eva was walking down the hallway. When we heard Eva busy with other customers, May was much more relaxed.

Honestly it was the luck of the draw for me. If Eva had serviced me first (or had failed to, as in your case) I would have felt just as pissed as you.

[jamesfromny]

... I could hear her talking the whole time to Eva who was just on the other side of the partition. When it came time for the flip there was no erotic play and May was resistant to my suggestions that she give me the R&T I was looking for.

For sure I had been marked...

One of us needs to learn Chinese. It'd be great to know what they're saying about us.

[jamesfromny]

Nice review James. Sounds like this place is getting too popular with all that morning activity! May's English is not that good or is it non-existent?

I was surprised. I went early to avoid the lunch-break rush.

With May, I mostly use hand signals and short phrases - like, "no oil" or "put your lips here". But if you try to ask her anything conversational unrelated to the session, she'll ask Eva to translate. Last week, while lightly OTCRing her down below, she whispered, "for husband and wife." I held up her hand and mimed a ring on her finger and said, "no husband" - and then showed her my ringless ring finger and said "no wife". She didn't argue with my flawed logic.

[jamesfromny]

I apologize for four consecutive posts, but I have new information to share:

There are two new girls working here. Coco is a cute little spinner who looked about 19 or 20 and had short shorts and a smile on. Eva says since her English is pretty good, she'll be helping to answer the phone. The other is Jesse (Jeshy?) who was older, average looking, and not particularly attractive. She only nodded and smiled when I introduced myself.

I encourage anyone up for the challenge to try these two out and report back.

[lightweight]

James, thanks for the review. I am going to check this place out.

[fuhecu2]

James, thanks for the review. I am going to check this place out.

good to see your still around..i enjoy reading your reviews and adventures

fu2

[lightweight]

good to see your still around..i enjoy reading your reviews and adventures

fu2Thanks Fu. I am still around. I just needed to lay low a bit. Thanks.

[jamesfromny]

James, thanks for the review. I am going to check this place out.

Hey, it's LW! I was just going to start an ISO thread in your honor. I'm glad to see you're doing alright.

[cthulhu]

Place was busted last night. Three arrested, ages 31,36,and 50.

[jamesfromny]

More info in this other thread

[lightweight]

Hey, it's LW! I was just going to start an ISO thread in your honor. I'm glad to see you're doing alright.I just noticed this. Thanks James.