Younger women why do we do it?

[Greeseball]

Last weekend I met a younger woman, I'm 40 and she's 20. I met her in Barnes and Nobles on 5th and 45th. I was browsing in the basement and she happened to ask me about a text book she thought I was looking at. I was actually just day dreaming. It turns out she's in college in LI and thought for some reason that I'm in school too. I admit I appear younger than I am but not that much younger, usually. I was in the bookstore after dropping my teenage daughter and friends off at Bryant Park to go ice skating.

It wasn't really hard to meet her, while I wasn't on the "make" I did notice her and positioned myself near her without really intending to chat her up. When she asked about the book, something on religion, she had sent a couple of signals. A big smile and her head leaned to one side as we talked then I made a silly joke and she reached out to touch my forearm as she laughed. She has beautiful expressive eyes, shoulder length hair and a magnificent ass. I complimented her on the sound of her laughter and boom she bought it hook line and sinker. I suggested we move upstairs to the cafe and chat some more. I bought a couple of drinks and we talked about a couple of subjects, music and movies, etc... I knew some of the singers she was talking about only because I listen to my kids and their friends when they chat.

We chatted for about 2 hours then went to get a bite to eat. My daughters eventually called and I excused myself to take it and made up some excuse about work and having to leave. I got her number and gave her mine and have been e-mailing and talking at night every day since.

Now I'm a whore monger, happy and proud of it. I don't hide it, most of my friends and co-workers know I do it. Women I've dated recently have all known it too. I tried to be monogamous with the last woman but it didn't last long, 4 months then I told her I had to get something on the side and she got mad and eventually it didn't work out. I don't really want a relationship because I don't believe I would ever be happy in one. I view women as a lay, a place to make me cum and feel good. Eventually my daughters will come of age and honestly if they started turning tricks I'd be supportive of them because that's what women should do. Now I wouldn't be a customer cause that's sick but I'd help them out. I wouldn't want them on the street and would advise them to be more like Malissa, Blond Kelly or Betty, classy, safe, not on drugs and they get paid to suck and fuck. My son will be going to SW's, incalls and MP's as soon as he's 16 and I and my friends will break him into the game the way we were. My uncles and Thai boxing teacher and cousins all took me to a whore house a couple of them were running back in the 80's and got me laid there. They took me to the old Times Square to places like Les Gals, Playpen, Show World, etc.. when I was 13 and it's been non-stop ever since. My son and nephews will all be introduced to the game at the right age.

So now I have a date with her on Saturday. Going to take her to a restaurant out in LI that one of the fellow UG'ers recommended. I plan to fuck her as soon as I can but can't for the life of me figure out why I can't stop this shit and just stick to whores and sluts. I have very little in common with a 20 year old who lives at home with parents about my age LOL. I guess I'll go and see this through. It's odd almost like I have no control over it.

[justlooking]

We do it for the same reason a dog licks its dick.

[RuffToy]

...Going to take her to a restaurant out in LI that one of the fellow UG'ers recommended....

When you can, I'd be curious which restaurant you took her to.

[paperpusher]

Greaseball, you seem to have intimacy issues and probably would be best if you seek help as to the whys? You will truly not be happy long term until you work this out. Though advice and a whore board will not be taken serously, let your kids find their own path.

[NYC55]

I agree with ******... you do seem very warped and should seek professional help. None of us here are much better but you seem worse. nothing wrong with fucking this girl but I wouldn't want to have to say hello to her parent when picking her up.

I know you are not serious about this girl but a lot of girls are seeking daddy figures and I know several couples where the husband is 17-26 years older and it's awkward because the husband is always older than the social group and has no interest in us nor anything in common. I don't blame him. I would never marry anyone that much younger for this reason. it's just awkward socially.

[Waterclone]

I view women as a lay, a place to make me cum and feel good. Eventually my daughters will come of age and honestly if they started turning tricks I'd be supportive of them because that's what women should do.

Holy shit!

[Retoxicate]

I read accts post and was like, wow, what a judgmental asshole. Then I realized I only had skimmed the original post and that I don't remember ever reading anything by ****** that had caught my eye in a negative. So, I went back and read the entire original post carefully.

Dude, that is one helluva post. All I can say is wow and thank you, I feel more well-adjusted than I have in a long time.

[justlooking]

That's what whoreboards are for.

[paperpusher]

I read accts post and was like, wow, what a judgmental asshole. Then I realized I only had skimmed the original post and that I don't remember ever reading anything by ****** that had caught my eye in a negative. So, I went back and read the entire original post carefully.

Dude, that is one helluva post. All I can say is wow and thank you, I feel more well-adjusted than I have in a long time.

Actually I thought my response was tame. Sometimes people cry out for help on an anonymous board in ways you do not realize. Sometimes you have to point things out and try to be positive as best as you can, with the hope that maybe 3% might actually seek the help they need. If you flame someone, it is counterproductive if you are trying to help someone. I give everyone the benefit of the doubt on the first pass.

[Greeseball]

Ruff, I chose Thyme, Roslyn. I checked out the menu and the pictures look like it's a nice quiet place for a date.

As for ******' comments I don't think I have intimacy issues as much as I accept my lifestyle choices. No bullshit that society says we have to be married or in a relationship to be happy. The guys here who are in those situations are just lying to themselves when they know they want the freedom to fuck all the pussy they can get pay or free. We're whore-mongers and that's what we do. Anything else is bullshit.

I do question why I get myself into these situations. Eventually I'll tell her I got laid by a hooker and she'll be upset or not but I'll cross that bridge when if we come to it.

Waterclone do you not agree with my statement or is that whole-hearted endorsement of it?

[lightweight]

You should have left the part about your kids out of your post. This thread could have had some legs but when you talked about the kids, then you just sound like a dick

[Gavvy Cravath]

Well, greasebal, thanks for the thread bump. As for some of what you wrote...

[RuffToy]

Ruff, I chose Thyme, Roslyn. I checked out the menu and the pictures look like it's a nice quiet place for a date.

Excellent choice. Food is phenomenal, a little pricey, but great place. Enjoy.

[paperpusher]

Ruff, I chose Thyme, Roslyn. I checked out the menu and the pictures look like it's a nice quiet place for a date.

As for ******' comments I don't think I have intimacy issues as much as I accept my lifestyle choices. No bullshit that society says we have to be married or in a relationship to be happy. The guys here who are in those situations are just lying to themselves when they know they want the freedom to fuck all the pussy they can get pay or free. We're whore-mongers and that's what we do. Anything else is bullshit.

I do question why I get myself into these situations. Eventually I'll tell her I got laid by a hooker and she'll be upset or not but I'll cross that bridge when if we come to it.

Waterclone do you not agree with my statement or is that whole-hearted endorsement of it?

You are right about one thing. In our fantasy life, we wouls all love to have unfettered access to whores without any repercusions. That is why we are here.

But mongoring takes at best a few hours a week, if that. An orgasm lasts 30 seconds if that. When we are done with work, we have to fill up our time with other things. For most people, to spend one's time by yourself most of the time, is not only lonely, it becomes empty very quickly. It doesnt have to be fulled with a spouse, but some meaningful relationship of some kind. It is the nature of the human animal in the same way we crave sex.

There are people who say, they do not desire relationships, but I dont believe them. And I dont even think they believe it when they say that themselves. Objects, entertainment activities are for the moment and the joy quickly disapates. The feelings assoicated with relationships stay with you and have great meaing.

What you said about your kids is so outlandish, I cannot help but think you posted it for shock value. I strongly doubt that the well regareded providers here, would want there children to follow in their footsteps.

[SkellyChamp]

You should have left the part about your kids out of your post. This thread could have had some legs but when you talked about the kids, then you just sound like a dick

Ditto. My first reaction was I wish this guy had been sterilized. What we do is what we do (or did) but suggesting your daughters SHOULD be providers because that's what women should be. I'm a gentle soul but if my daughter ever hooked up with you I'm 110% certain the only thing you'd be kissing is a weapon with one in the chamber and I could go to jail a happy man.

[justlooking]

Jillian Bradley didn't mind her daughter following her into the business. Although I guess there's a difference between being a madame and being a prostitute.

If we're so sure that none of the prostitutes who post here would want their daughters to follow them into the trade, then I guess we're saying we think all the stuff they always say about how nice their work is and how much they love having sex with their johns is complete and utter bullshit? (I do think that, actually. It's just rare to see them called on it.)

[justlooking]

Oh, yeah, just for the record, I thought the shit about the daughters was really disgusting, too.

But then, I think lots of things I see here are really disgusting.

[Gavvy Cravath]

And I am probably one of the worst offenders of saying some outlandish things, jl, but discussing one's kids...or any kids as I know you agree with me...is unacceptable. What's the thought process?

[SirF]

His kids will probably end up being nuns or priests or whatever. I see hours of therapy for them in the future.

[akm495]

We do it for the same reason a dog licks its dick.
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And people climb mountains.

[marcinny]

I don't agree with the part "that's what women should do" and with the idea of breaking his son in "the game". (Not to mention that this last one could be illegal to the point that it is unacceptable even for this board).

As someone else said, let the children choose their own path. I hate when parents choose their children's profession, no matter whether its medical, law or as in this unusual case prostitution.

Otherwise, in general, if a father or mother learns that the daughter has become a prostitute and they support her, this does not bother me. That's different from pushing someone in that direction. That's understanding her choice in life.

Personally, I see prostitution as any other profession. It is one of the most valuable contribution to every society. Sex is an inevitable part of our life and by outlawing prostitution the American society has taken e great risk.

I have nothing but deep respect for the girls who chose this career. I respect even more those parents who have chosen to stand by them as this is a dangerous profession similar only to that of cops.

I don't agree with the notion that "they sell their bodies". They don't. They take the body with them when they leave. They sell intimacy. They offer pleasure. As in every profession and business not everyone is good and not everyone is fair.

I don't have kids. If I had I would have been against them joining this profession, just like I would have been against them joining the army or the police. However, make no mistake, there are few more indispensable services than prostitution to a country.

I wish to all these girls good luck and may the day come when none will put them in jail for helping their fellow citizens find some simple but fundamental pleasure, by doing what nature or God equipped us to do. Life is too short for moralistic bullshit.

[Lou Grant]

I think this is Vermeer redux. Love how he's getting a rise out of all of you.

[Lou Grant]

I also bet 1/3 of you will be checking out the same spot this weekend too to see what other action may be had.

[Retoxicate]

Actually I thought my response was tame. Sometimes people cry out for help on an anonymous board in ways you do not realize. Sometimes you have to point things out and try to be positive as best as you can, with the hope that maybe 3% might actually seek the help they need. If you flame someone, it is counterproductive if you are trying to help someone. I give everyone the benefit of the doubt on the first pass.

I sometimes read posts really quick and I missed all the nuance of your post. I re-read all the posts because I didn't trust my first impression as I didn't think you'd be flaming someone or posting in a condescending manner.

[RuffToy]

...So now I have a date with her on Saturday. ...

Update?

[IRVINGTON29]

Marc

I disagree with you. I don't have deep respect for a whore when I nut in her mouth. Maybe you do because your a bleeding heart. You said yourself you wouldn't let your kids join this whoring profession yet you find it so admirable.

That is a hypocrite , it is ok to slut out other people's daughters but you have a different perspective for yourself.

A woman should have a free choice on whether she wants to sell her body but most " are into the game" as a last resort.

I will be honest I wouldn't let my daughter be in the game. Then again Karma can be a bitch you know what I mean.

This is the problem with the game some hobbyists want to justify this profession to themselves to help themselves sleep at night.

Everybody is wrong all around the whores that sell it and the men that buy it.

I personally in all my years never seen a whore retire with dignity.

Most of them end up past their 30s, either on the street, drug addicted or never quite made it in life.

I try not to look backwards but most hobbyists just move on the new freshest piece of pussy. I wonder if you find these women admirable; the washed up upscale whores that succumbed to being used and discarded.

God bless the women that find a way to get out of the game before it's too late.

I am done

[Gavvy Cravath]

OH boy, Irv's entered the discussion. LOL! Hey Irv. I think Ozzy has a story of some Brazilian pros that got out of the business and are living in comfort down in Sao Paolo or something of the sort.

He has got some stories.

But, the title of the thread is "younger women". An old pro is just that, old. Like you wrote, "washed up upscale" is just that, washed up.

Gavy

[paperpusher]

I sometimes read posts really quick and I missed all the nuance of your post. I re-read all the posts because I didn't trust my first impression as I didn't think you'd be flaming someone or posting in a condescending manner.

I did find a strange sense of irony, that some here were careful not to condemn Greaser on a post that clearly crossed the line, but would not hesitate to trash a shill post. LOL Most were sufficiently outraged though. This post is not directed at you retox as you had posted your own unique way of voicing disaproval.LOL

We all have our priorites.

[justlooking]

To me, shill posts violate the integrity of this board.

If someone expresses an opinion I find abhorrant, big fucking shit, you know? I'm a grownup. I can take it.

[DaveNJ]

That's pretty much along the lines of what I was thinking JL.

[justlooking]

Especially when the opinion he expressed, except for the offensively extreme way he put it, is something you see expressed in a substantial numbers of posts on this board. And the usual response they get is, "go bro!" And if anyone opposes them, they're called a whoreloving PC pussy or (in an almost ironic misuse of the term) a white knight.

So maybe the problem some guys are having is that they can't stand to see the logical conclusions of their own way of thinking laid out for them.

[paperpusher]

To me, shill posts violate the integrity of this board.

If someone expresses an opinion I find abhorrant, big fucking shit, you know? I'm a grownup. I can take it.


There are two kinds of opinions that can be expressed here:

1) I love Trannies, scatt, foot fetish etc.

Some people would find this repulsive. Well that is just sexual preference and I could not care less about their tastes and would never comment on it.

2) I love snuff films, child porn etc.

There should be a global outrage from the UG community to remind the person that the person crossed a line of acceptable behavior even for a whore board. If this person becomes a pariah in this of the most liberally challenged moralistic community, he might rethink his position.

Saying ones child should be introduced to prostituion gets you pretty close to number 2) in my book.

You finding it abhorent is irrelevant. It is not about you or what you think or your tolerance level.

[RuffToy]

To me, shill posts violate the integrity of this board.

If someone expresses an opinion I find abhorrant, big fucking shit, you know? I'm a grownup. I can take it.

DITTO



Thought you'd like that.

[NYC55]

There are two kinds of opinions that can be expressed here:

1) I love Trannies, scatt, foot fetish etc.

Some people would find this repulsive. Well that is just sexual preference and I could not care less about their tastes and would never comment on it.

2) I love snuff films, child porn etc.

There should be a global outrage from the UG community to remind the person that the person crossed a line of acceptable behavior even for a whore board. If this person becomes a pariah in this of the most liberally challenged moralistic community, he might rethink his position.

Saying ones child should be introduced to prostituion gets you pretty close to number 2) in my book.

You finding it abhorent is irrelevant. It is not about you or what you think or your tolerance level.

I agree with you but I thought he meant when his children become of legal age. To me that is pathetic and morally wrong but somewhere between #1 and #2

[RuffToy]

There are two kinds of opinions that can be expressed here:

1) I love Trannies, scatt, foot fetish etc.

Some people would find this repulsive. Well that is just sexual preference and I could not care less about their tastes and would never comment on it.

2) I love snuff films, child porn etc.

There should be a global outrage from the UG community to remind the person that the person crossed a line of acceptable behavior even for a whore board. If this person becomes a pariah in this of the most liberally challenged moralistic community, he might rethink his position.

Saying ones child should be introduced to prostituion gets you pretty close to number 2) in my book.

You finding it abhorent is irrelevant. It is not about you or what you think or your tolerance level.

Of course, child porn is universally disgusting. So you voiced your abhorrence and made your disgust know to all. No one here is defending him. It sounds like you're pissed off that others didn't get on his case like you did.

[Waterclone]

There are two kinds of opinions that can be expressed here:

1) I love Trannies, scatt, foot fetish etc.

Some people would find this repulsive. Well that is just sexual preference and I could not care less about their tastes and would never comment on it.

2) I love snuff films, child porn etc.

There should be a global outrage from the UG community to remind the person that the person crossed a line of acceptable behavior even for a whore board. If this person becomes a pariah in this of the most liberally challenged moralistic community, he might rethink his position.

I think it's funny how many people here seem to put BBFS into that 2nd category.

[justlooking]

DITTO



Thought you'd like that.

HOF! HOF!

[Greeseball]

For those of you who think it's wrong for women to become providers what do you think of yourselves or the women you see? I respect the women I go to fuck or pick up in my car to suck my cock. I'd prefer my daughters not do the street route as I said in my original post. Read it carefully no where did I say minors should do it. I don't look down on Malissa's or Betty's, etc... choice of profession and actively support it. If my daughters decided to become a cop I'd be less supportive but hey it's their choice.

I don't think anyone who is a whore-monger should be in a monogamous relationship with a woman who doesn't know what he's doing, if you disagree you're the lowest form of sludge there is and shouldn't be alive. You're exposing your wife too all sorts of risks without her knowledge and there's no way to rationalize that to make it moral. Ask her a hypothetical to see what she thinks or any woman in your life, mother, sister, daughter, etc.. They'd think you were a slimy greeseball LOL

Saturday turned out pretty good. The restaurant was perfect thanks for the recommendation, Ruff. It was cloudy and rainy so it wasn't packed and set a nice mood. She's got a thing for the rain so that worked out too, we had a nice stroll in the rain getting wet. She suggested we head to someplace called the Nautical Mile but I thought it was too near the shore and I thought it might be too windy. We sat in my car and she took off her top layer of clothing and put on a sweatshirt I had there. We made out for a while with some light petting. I suggested we head back to my place in Queens but she said her parents expected her home. I did tell her my age and she was shocked but was cool with it.

I reflected later on it's not her age, her looks has something to do with it but I think I'm attracted to the chase. I sent her flowers today and she called gushing about it and was very appreciative and said she's show me after school on Friday night.

[DaveNJ]

For those of you who think it's wrong for women to become providers what do you think of yourselves or the women you see? I respect the women I go to fuck or pick up in my car to suck my cock. I'd prefer my daughters not do the street route as I said in my original post. Read it carefully no where did I say minors should do it. I don't look down on Malissa's or Betty's, etc... choice of profession and actively support it. If my daughters decided to become a cop I'd be less supportive but hey it's their choice.

I don't think anyone is saying it's wrong for women to become providers. What people are taking issue with is when you said


Eventually my daughters will come of age and honestly if they started turning tricks I'd be supportive of them because that's what women should do.

Suggesting that being a provider is what women should do is where I think you lost most of us.

[Greeseball]

What ever, should would could, women should be providers. Simple isn't it? Nothing better out there for them than getting paid to fuck and suck.

[DaveNJ]

there is a world of difference between saying women could be providers and should be providers. That's not my doing, it's this pesky language that we all use. Words have specific meanings. Look up "would" and "could" in the dictionary if you don't believe me.

As far as what's the idea job for them, I think its best to let each woman figure that out for herself. I don't think women should be providers, but I am certainly happy that enough decide to.

[justlooking]

What ever, should would could, women should be providers. Simple isn't it? Nothing better out there for them than getting paid to fuck and suck.

See? How's that any different from guys' saying -- which they constantly do here -- that prostitutes don't deserve high fees because all they do is fuck and suck, which doesn't require any training and which we would all supposedly do for free? (Maybe not the suck.)

[Gavvy Cravath]

Listen, whatever floats your boat. If you have the money and you think paying a certain amount is the right price, who the hell am I to say you're wrong?

[Greeseball]

I can't think of a job better for a woman than turning tricks. Shit if I can get paid to fuck and lick women all day I'd do it. I think all women should do it at least a few times in their life, willingly of course not forced into it.

What's wrong with getting my son a hooker when he's 16? Good ole dad is going to make sure he's taken care of by a pro.

[RuffToy]

...The restaurant was perfect thanks for the recommendation, Ruff....

My pleasure.

[Ruv Me Rong Time!!]

SNIP ..
Otherwise, in general, if a father or mother learns that the daughter has become a prostitute and they support her, this does not bother me. That's different from pushing someone in that direction. That's understanding her choice in life.

Personally, I see prostitution as any other profession. It is one of the most valuable contribution to every society. Sex is an inevitable part of our life and by outlawing prostitution the American society has taken e great risk.

I have nothing but deep respect for the girls who chose this career. I respect even more those parents who have chosen to stand by them as this is a dangerous profession similar only to that of cops.

I don't agree with the notion that "they sell their bodies". They don't. They take the body with them when they leave. They sell intimacy. They offer pleasure. As in every profession and business not everyone is good and not everyone is fair.

I don't have kids. If I had I would have been against them joining this profession, just like I would have been against them joining the army or the police. However, make no mistake, there are few more indispensable services than prostitution to a country.

I wish to all these girls good luck and may the day come when none will put them in jail for helping their fellow citizens find some simple but fundamental pleasure, by doing what nature or God equipped us to do. Life is too short for moralistic bullshit.

I have the same sentiment and i think that if you cant see your daughters doing this thing of ours when they are of legal age then it makes you a hypocryte for doing it to somebody elses daughter. Why is somebody elses daugher "worth less" than yours.

I have nothing but respect for the ladies of the night.

i wonder if some of our girls BlondeKelly or Melissa4U could weigh in on this? They r somebodies daughter too and here we r lining up to bone them.

[marcinny]

I can't think of a job better for a woman than turning tricks. Shit if I can get paid to fuck and lick women all day I'd do it. I think all women should do it at least a few times in their life, willingly of course not forced into it.

What's wrong with getting my son a hooker when he's 16? Good ole dad is going to make sure he's taken care of by a pro.

As I said, my only problem with you pushing your daughter toward prostitution is that I hate parents who chose the profession for their children. Other than that, just watch for the legal age. Good luck to her whatever happens.

On the other hand, I do find it immoral to get a hooker for your son. It is in my opinion an invasion of his privacy. That's not a choice that you should make for him. He may want another path toward sexual intimacy. Or he may be gay.

Some fathers do this hoping to put their sons in "the right path" before it's too late. Well, if that's your reason be aware that the the counter-effect is also possible. If your kid is not ready for that encounter you are setting him for a trauma. You never know how he will experience it. And no, hookers will not save his son if he wants to suck cock instead of pounding pussies (not that these are mutually exclusive anymore).

Actually imposing dads who mess with their children sexuality do push their sons toward homosexuality.

I vote for his freedom of choice.

[SirF]

I agree. But if greeseball did want to christen his son, so to speak, maybe he can pay a high class escort and have her seduce his son. That way, he has a nice experience with an extremely sexy girl, not a dirty experience in a brothel.

[Greeseball]

I wouldn't mind if my son is a homosexual, I'd get him a male hooker is all. Just fucking tell me so I'm not wasting gas and shit driving around. Now I do understand that he might feel weird with his father and uncle looking in the car window cheering him on and saying shit like "grab that hoes head" LOL.

I don't see a problem with all women turning a tricks for a while. I know a lot of them can use the self image boost. I think you guys are reading too much into it. I didn't say or even imply I would pimp out my daughters when they turn 18 just that they should join the rest of the women and do what comes naturally.

If I had a pussy I'd be getting paid to put that shit out there.

[SirF]

I always thought selling sex would come with a self image bust, not boost. Would be really interested to know what some of the providers think. I know mongering is a self image bust for me, not a boost. I view it as a personal failing.

[Greeseball]

I'd be complimented if a woman offered me $40 to blow me!

[marcinny]

I always thought selling sex would come with a self image bust, not boost. Would be really interested to know what some of the providers think. I know mongering is a self image bust for me, not a boost. I view it as a personal failing.

I see it as a personal choice. Having a girlfriend is time-consuming and requires some kind of commitment. What I see as a personal failing is not having more money to spend for either a higher quality of whores or for a sugardaddy status.

[vermeer]

Greaseball, you are my hero. A true american patriot. Alot of hypocrites here. Sure, they'll stick their dirty dicks in any rancid cunt. But NOOOOO, this career path is not good enough for their own daughters.

All I can say is make sure you tell your whore daughters, to keep their prices low, and offer a special discount to elderly negro war hero's.

The day they turn 18, I will break them in. Make their asshole gape, and give them a dirtpipe milk-shake.

Thank you for sharing with the community.

[son of scissors]

Child porn is disgusting? Just kidding

I've never seen black child porn. Only white and Spanish...

Not that I'm into child porn or anything....

[Mr.Robinson]

Ditto. My first reaction was I wish this guy had been sterilized. What we do is what we do (or did) but suggesting your daughters SHOULD be providers because that's what women should be. I'm a gentle soul but if my daughter ever hooked up with you I'm 110% certain the only thing you'd be kissing is a weapon with one in the chamber and I could go to jail a happy man.

lol@happy man

[Cheezewhiz]

[QUOTE=vermeer;833326]

Make their asshole gape, and give them a dirtpipe milk-shake.

Thats a funny line