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fairemily
03-02-2007, 04:20 PM
http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/ers/287439777.html

This is the dumbest yet. I am one of the least competitive out there. What a coward and retard, this post doesn't even make sense. I am too busy to flag or care who post what. If someone gets flagged because they suck or over post then they shoudl look at themselves not me to blame. Even if I did how it is well known one flag can not make a difference. So much misdirected hate.

fairemily
03-02-2007, 04:24 PM
http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/ers/284573716.html

What is this retard taking about? If he has an issue with me I will more than happy to deal with it on this board. What a coward to hide behind a anonymous CL post.

fairemily
03-02-2007, 04:28 PM
Getting FLAGGED by the dutiful indy- m4w

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Reply to: pers-284573716@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-02-25, 7:02PM EST


If you flagged me for telling the truth about your desperate inexpensive ass, then you know what I said was true. I wish you many many cheap dates.





Location: adorable HA
it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

PostingID: 284573716

This is what I get for trying to keep my rate reasonable.

fairemily
03-02-2007, 04:29 PM
RE: Indep****t "adorable dutiful" Emily - m4w

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Reply to: pers-287439777@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-03-02, 7:51PM EST


hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa how many posts did you flag today bitch??




it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

License info:

PostingID: 287439777

akm495
03-03-2007, 07:41 AM
Why do you assume this is a man, and not woman?

ark123
03-03-2007, 08:54 AM
What are you talking about here and who care.

{Note from moderator: Someone is really pushing it and should check themselves}

fairemily
03-03-2007, 10:05 AM
What are you talking about here and who care.

I think the posts explain themselves what I am talking about. This is hate mail or post so I am not posting in the wrong section. Maybe you don't care but others who know me might.

The subject is M4W and I care because I take in new guys and how do I know the next one is not him. He has alot of misdirected hatred towards me don't you think. I personally think it is a pimp and he is assuming I flag his posts which is ridicules since it takes more then one person to flag. It could be a woman which I hope.

fairemily
03-03-2007, 10:39 AM
What are you talking about here and who care.

You know your response really surprised me. It is an issue when someone tries to scare a good reasonable provider off the board and maybe you might not care but others might who want me around might. Good to know where you stand ark123, thanks. I need CL and I don't want to work in fear and have to up my screening process because someone is writing uncalled for weird and nasty things about me. These posts were a week apart so it wasn't a one time thing. The lack of compassion on this board overwhelms me sometimes.

desilove
03-03-2007, 11:26 AM
What are you talking about here and who care.

as a fellow independent provid. i care and maybe can shed some light as to why posts like this towards an indy can sometimes be a heads up, or warning..in LI a n occasional advert on LI and personal friend from my town was harrassed in this way, warned in subtle tones to stop advert and basic get out of town, negative reviews ect...she continued to post and re-post deleted ads...she eventualy took an app w/ a new client who turned out to be one of the "families" that thinks they own the "companionship" business and feel they should get a cut of our profits...she refused there bullying, stupidly shot back smart ass comments not rea;lizing the severity of what was being done...a wk ago her legit business was burned to the ground..just stating a chain of events and not a fact of anything..i myself before coming to ug, took an app w/ a new client over labor day weekend..semi young attractive man, respectful over the phone ect...felt comf w/ app as hed called other times but i wasnt avail, showed up on time enjoyed a great multi cup session...conversated lightly afterwards, and then started going thru my rm still maintaing normal tone convo..i am not an idiot and deff sidnt grow up in leave it to beaver land...so i sat down as he pcketed his session payment and found little amount i had stashed under my fridge..next he pulled a gun pointed it to my head lost the nice tone and threatened me if i didnt join his stable...thankfuly i hv clients in high places ect ect and although he got out w/ my money and cell phones (all disconnected now)...i was told not to work and to call a # the next night at 8pm...between then amnd 8pm i was lucky enough to secure myself from having to either stop working all together or join his "stable"....final words, june of '06 go to an outcall app same scenerio actualy lived in my town..young kid, hr app first 30-45 min enjoyable oral convo to finish, ready for 2nd vconvo fuller basis insulted that he has to wear a hat..i get nervous he gets wild i return "shoes" and get ready to lv..grabbed from behind beaten so severly 2 ribs broken, dislocated shoulder and stbbed w/ a box xutter in my stomach...this punlks father is a well know nassau county legal field...us independemt prov are at risk every time we see a new person and can only screen so much..obviously lunatics w/ severe issues are not going to make an app letting us know they want to take out there frustration on us...and perhaps the fact that some dont show much respect for our profession in the words they use to perhaps describe sessions and what not doesnt help...case in point being a simple ref to roughness in a certain ters review re me caused a client to imjure me...maybe if some didnt refer to us as "tissues" that are to be discarded things might be a tad easier or maybe not...but sometimes the most innocent of comments can vause a chain reaction detramental to an independ. prov well being...id say thats my .02 but looking above id say its alot more...xox

desilove
03-03-2007, 11:36 AM
sorry for all the typos ect in above, tried edting but took to long..such is life i think i made my point...xox

fairemily
03-04-2007, 10:30 AM
as a fellow independent provid. i care and maybe can shed some light as to why posts like this towards an indy can sometimes be a heads up, or warning..in LI a n occasional advert on LI and personal friend from my town was harassed in this way, warned in subtle tones to stop advert and basic get out of town, negative reviews ect...she continued to post and re-post deleted ads...she eventually took an app w/ a new client who turned out to be one of the "families" that thinks they own the "companionship" business and feel they should get a cut of our profits...she refused there bullying, stupidly shot back smart ass comments not realizing the severity of what was being done...a wk ago her legit business was burned to the ground..just stating a chain of events and not a fact of anything..i myself before coming to ug, took an app w/ a new client over labor day weekend..semi young attractive man, respectful over the phone ect...felt comf w/ app as hed called other times but i wasn't avail, showed up on time enjoyed a great multi cup session...conversed lightly afterwards, and then started going thru my rm still maintaining normal tone convo..i am not an idiot and deff didnt grow up in leave it to beaver land...so i sat down as he pcketed his session payment and found little amount i had stashed under my fridge..next he pulled a gun pointed it to my head lost the nice tone and threatened me if i didnt join his stable...thankfully i hv clients in high places ect ect and although he got out w/ my money and cell phones (all disconnected now)...i was told not to work and to call a # the next night at 8pm...between then amnd 8pm i was lucky enough to secure myself from having to either stop working all together or join his "stable"....final words, june of '06 go to an outcall app same scenario actually lived in my town..young kid, hr app first 30-45 min enjoyable oral convo to finish, ready for 2nd vconvo fuller basis insulted that he has to wear a hat..i get nervous he gets wild i return "shoes" and get ready to lv..grabbed from behind beaten so severely 2 ribs broken, dislocated shoulder and stabbed w/ a box cutter in my stomach...this punks father is a well know Nassau county legal field...us independent prov are at risk every time we see a new person and can only screen so much..obviously lunatics w/ severe issues are not going to make an app letting us know they want to take out there frustration on us...and perhaps the fact that some don't show much respect for our profession in the words they use to perhaps describe sessions and what not doesn't help...case in point being a simple ref to roughness in a certain ters review re me caused a client to injure me...maybe if some didn't refer to us as "tissues" that are to be discarded things might be a tad easier or maybe not...but sometimes the most innocent of comments can cause a chain reaction detrimental to an independent. prov well being...id say that's my .02 but looking above id say its alot more...xox

Your right, hate brews hate. I have already been a victim of a violent crime in this buisness because of being unaware of signs and lack of communication between providers. I am not going to let it happen again.

fairemily
03-04-2007, 10:58 AM
"$170 for a no rush hour (plus cab fare from the UES).


Pick up a Newsday asshole.............lol

That phone must be smokin huh ?"

Just received this message from my CL post. someone is definitely trying to intimate me from advertising on CL with encrypted messages.

stevana
03-04-2007, 11:06 AM
http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/ers/287439777.html

If someone gets flagged because they . . . over post then they shoudl look at themselves not me to blame.

Emily, it seems to me that AMP posts have a way of surviving regardless of how many times they post or what they say. Is it possible that this is not any particular guy giving you a hard time? I know only what I have read in this thread so you are certainly in a better position to assess the situation than I, of course. At all events, I hope this crap ends for you very soon.

stevana
03-04-2007, 11:13 AM
Another thought is that there are many creeps out there and one might have concentrated on you for no particular reason other than your unfortunate luck of the draw. I understand your legitimate concerns and hope that he/she/it gets tired of the game very soon if that is the case. I am not very familiar with the CL process and rules (if there are any) but is there some way to report posts that one might validly consider threatening (as opposed to what I guess one would call bad-mouthing someone)?

fairemily
03-04-2007, 11:14 AM
Emily, it seems to me that AMP posts have a way of surviving regardless of how many times they post or what they say. Is it possible that this is not any particular guy giving you a hard time? I know only what I have read in this thread so you are certainly in a better position to assess the situation than I, of course. At all events, I hope this crap ends for you very soon.

Thank you Stevana. I think it's the same person whether it's a man of woman I have not figured that out yet. It's just intimidation tactics to scare me away form CL. I wish I did not have to advertise there but I do. I think what the majority of harassers do not understand is that after years of dealing with dangerous situations women like myself are prepared for the worst and I wonder what they are ready for.

desilove
03-04-2007, 11:16 AM
"$170 for a no rush hour (plus cab fare from the UES).


Pick up a Newsday asshole.............lol

That phone must be smokin huh ?"

Just received this message from my CL post. someone is definitely trying to intimate me from advertising on CL with encrypted messages.


you are 100% right on that emily.....me and some of the true indys on cl hv a phone chain...we know when each other starts and when we are done for the night...we do the buddy system and if we dont hear from one or the other by a certain time we check up on each other...there is a side to this busines guys that you dont hv to see, and or worry about to the extent we do..yes i know you also hv worries on your end but we dont review you openly, and sometimes even if joking comments read by perhaps lurker or even newbie might take it as a sign that it is par for the course to show disrespect to a prov..i am not saying that as a direct hit to ug, as i always have had nothing but the most enjoyable of times and hv been treated w/ respect by members of this board..i am just saying it in general....joe schmoe just caught his wife w/ his best friend, hes pissed wants to get back at her, cheat..perhaps sched an app and gets even w/ one of us in place of his wife....yes we knew the risks and chose to take them and that was our decision but we dont need it made any harder by comments, posts ect that set as tone of one to think we are beneath the respect that some think a "real" woman, gf, or wife deserves..let me throw this out, i come from a normal nice middle to upper class educated prof family..brothers, cousins, uncles, ect NONE know what i do..i am just a single mom who works hard at taking care of my family..,they hv no clue..how confident are all of you that someone you know and respect on any level isnt involved in our lifestyle..now think how youd feel if someone ref to them, as tissues, douche bags, or even just bragged about jipping us on an agreed upon donation....we are all someones daughters, friend, sister or even mother...we should get the same level of respect that any other women doing what she has to at any cost to take care of her family..or in some cases to just simply further education ect...we are human and i find that i have found that respect w/ every member from this board that i have seen and am truly appreciative for being able to advert on this board and enjoy the company of many..i DO know alot of prov are disrespectful towards clients, hv a bad service, smell ect, and are at times high and hv even robbed clients i dont defend them but i do defend the ones that are not on that level and who do provide a great service and companionship...and emily usualy the losers that post the stupid comments are to chicken to act on any other level otherwise if there contempt exceeded the board theyd hv simply just made an app...but i am always here for you if you ever need anything and i hope through our *****s you know that..xox

stevana
03-04-2007, 11:34 AM
.....me and some of the true indys on cl hv a phone chain...we know when each other starts and when we are done for the night...we do the buddy system and if we dont hear from one or the other by a certain time we check up on each other...

Never in a million years would I have ever thought about that being the case - very smart and good for you - Now, although I recognize the seriousness of Emily's concerns please excuse me for not being able to say that the intelligence of the arrangement probably results from you folks not having the thinking of the big head clouded by the thinking of the little head. At all events - my respect to all who take the risks that you do.

fairemily
03-04-2007, 01:17 PM
Thank you Alyssa and Stevana for your support and compassion. I just got another ******, I am not even going to post it because it is so vile. I don't like confrontation mostly because of the person I become, it scares me because I see red and am capable of anything. People who fuck with others without revealing thier identity are the worst kinds of cowards but I am ready for whatever happens. This person has no reason to screw but if they like I will give them one if they ever crawl out from under his/her rock.

fairemily
03-04-2007, 01:46 PM
"Your a scum slut and in serious need of a real bad diease. And in due time it will come and you'll be done. Do you have a will to give your shoebox of belongings to ? Ouch and you know it to scum slut. The lowest breed of animal on the globe.

I put myself out there (i wrote him).-because no one wants you that's why your out there asshole. And your broke and on here..."

This is the latest ******. Doesn't this guy know I don't provide F/S. Is he my accountant, how does he know if I am broke ar not. It's just intimidation to throw me off so I can't work.

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fairemily
03-04-2007, 01:52 PM
"Your a scum slut and in serious need of a real bad diease. And in due time it will come and you'll be done. Do you have a will to give your shoebox of belongings to ? Ouch and you know it to scum slut. The lowest breed of animal on the globe.

I put myself out there (i wrote him).-because no one wants you that's why your out there asshole. And your broke and on here..."

This is the latest ******. Doesn't this guy know I don't provide F/S. Is he my accountant, how does he know if I am broke ar not. It's just intimidation to throw me off so I can't work.

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This person is threatening my life and is a danger. Can I get permission to post his ******, he probably has many but it's getting scary.

akm495
03-04-2007, 02:16 PM
M,

I am not a lawyer, but it maybe time to report these posting to CL, and the proper LE Authorities.
There is not reason this shit should be happening to anyone.

stevana
03-04-2007, 02:24 PM
I don't know , Emily, there are a few ways to look at this. One is that there is someone out there that is sending this sort of message to many advertisers. Another is that this person has randomly picked you out for abuse. Another is that someone has been disappointed in some way by you whether justifiably (which I doubt) or not. As I have mentioned above, isn't here some sort of protection for you via CL to at least have the posts stopped? Beyond that, maybe for a little while, why not stopping your ads on CL and deal with only those you know. I know that this might cause some problems for you but perhaps it might be best. Maybe if you stop posting on CL for a bit and then start again whether you experience the same treatment would be more indicative of focussed, intentional attack. I don't know, I am just throwing thoughts out for you.

fairemily
03-04-2007, 02:27 PM
M,

I am not a lawyer, but it maybe time to report these posting to CL, and the proper LE Authorities.
There is not reason this shit should be happening to anyone.


He just wrote this to me in response of my last ******. I think the ladies community should be warned. It was unprovoked and your right there is not reason. I need to put this out there in case something happens to me.


Post my address asshole. You don't have a leg to stand on. I'm real worried about some scum slut threats on a post from CL.

If I get a disease it will be because if rape (I wrote) - get a G.E.D. to scum slut. This way you'll know how to write. "If rape" who would want to. Your phone don't even ring....lol

Your the lowest form because you hide behind an anonymous address.(I wrote)- I don't think so scum slut. You hide behind CL so no one will come kick your ass...lol after there scratching from somekind of bug you give them...
I am posting everything you write on UG and the next ****** I get I am going to post your ****** address's so other ladies can be warned of your mental ass.(I wrote)- be my guest scumslut. It will give you something to do, maybe I'll save a life tonight. LOL....because I'm sure your phone isn't ringing.

Bring em on pig. And you can take my IP address and cram it right up your ass for all I care because you'll never get a dude like me. I have class and a life. The police probably know you by name anyway you've probably been there a bunch of times in the past for your illegal doings. When you go to the police mizz bullshit bring your massage license to there going to want to see that also.....lol.......Golly I hope I get to sleep tonight....and don't have to guard the front door...

I don't provide Full Service (I wrote) - and then they whip out a 100 dollar bill and you'll be blowing my dog....lol.....ouch....your the lowest form of garbage on the planet....take that to the police to. They'll give me a commendation.

fairemily
03-04-2007, 02:31 PM
I don't know , Emily, there are a few ways to look at this. One is that there is someone out there that is sending this sort of message to many advertisers. Another is that this person has randomly picked you out for abuse. Another is that someone has been disappointed in some way by you whether justifiably (which I doubt) or not. As I have mentioned above, isn't here some sort of protection for you via CL to at least have the posts stopped? Beyond that, maybe for a little while, why not stopping your ads on CL and deal with only those you know. I know that this might cause some problems for you but perhaps it might be best. Maybe if you stop posting on CL for a bit and then start again whether you experience the same treatment would be more indicative of focussed, intentional attack. I don't know, I am just throwing thoughts out for you.

I would love to stop but without both I can't make a living and believe me it's hard for me to say that since I am so private. UG has been great for me but I need another venue. Even if I stop posting which is proabaly what somone want pretty badly still somone out there want to hurt me.

fairemily
03-04-2007, 02:53 PM
I'm off on Sunday scum slut. Plant is closed on weekends like normal people. Your like a vampire. Only you don't drink blood you drink cum to survive. You don't post your # because you probably don't have a phone. I am working you are the lonely fucker with nobody to spend time with on a Sunday evening- I own 2 corps. asshole and they'll be open and running at 6:30 a.m. tommorrow morning. Close at 2:30 p.m. The lucky little lady is pulling into the driveway right now. Yep and I'm cooking tonight....So I'll talk to you later.....I was a chef while in College so I cook real good and she was with friends all day....

bye

This is the latest. He is mentally ill.

stevana
03-04-2007, 02:53 PM
I would love to stop but without both I can't make a living
Not even for maybe even a week or so? Everyone in business has a slow time once in awhile. think about it, OK?

fairemily
03-04-2007, 03:03 PM
Not even for maybe even a week or so? Everyone in business has a slow time once in awhile. think about it, OK?

It's what he wants and even if I take a break I am sure when I come back he will be ready to start again. I just have to be strong and not let it get to me, I have been through worse.

Thanks again, it's sad when a mentally ill person has nothing better to do but harress someone who does not deserve it but usually they have no reason. If this guy is really married and wns buisness why would he spend the day bothering somone he doesn't know. I am sure the posts from last week are connected.

desilove
03-04-2007, 03:10 PM
emily, i have to tell you as much as i understand you being nervous...you have to stop responding to him, that is what he wants and prob all he wants (I hope)..if this man/woman sincerely wanted to carry out these threats he would not put you on guard w/ *****s of this nature...he would come at you as casual as pie and then sadly and very scarey cause harm..this is just my opinion but i think that if you just ignore him he will hopefuly get bored and perhaps move on to another (NOT that i wish this on any prov)....i know what its like to not be able to hold your anger/feelings, youve seen my old repsonses to lemurr, but by feeding his mental rage you are just again givng him what he wants...and i think thats all he wants..by the sounds of it either a soap box religous nut, a big fat yucky man who was rejected once or repeatedly by women or even someone who resembles you..he is angry and directing it at you...maybe he sent many *****s randomly and got the response he was looking for..there could be many reasons but i would highly suggest saving his *****s but DO NOT respond to them anymore....pleae if you need anything ***** me or call my personal #..have car will travel;) be careful...xox

fairemily
03-04-2007, 03:15 PM
emily, i have to tell you asmuch as i understand you being nervous...you have to stop responding to him, that is what he wants and prob all he wants (I hope)..iif this man/woman sincerely wanted to carry out these threats he would not put you on guard w/ *****s of this nature...he would come at you as acasual as pie and then sadly and very scarey cause harm..this is just my opinion but i think that if you just ignore him he will hopefuly get bored and perhaps move on to another (NOT that i wish this on any prov)....i know what its like to not be able to hold your amger/feelings, youve seen my old repsonses to lemurr, but by feeding his mental rsage you are just again givng him what he wants...and i think thats all he wants..by the sounds of it either a soap box religous nut, a big fat yucky man who was rejected once or continuoulsy by women or even someone who resembles you..he is angry and directing it at you...maybe he sent many *****s randomly and got the response he was looking for..there could be many reasons but i would highly suggest saving his *****s but DO NOT respond to them anymore....pleae if you need anything ***** me or call my personal #..have car will travle;) be careful...xox



I was trying to get more info that's why I responsed, people get angry and slip impotant info, I needed to get a better picture of who i am dealing with. I am sure there was nothing more to increase his rage that I could have done, he is a very sick man. I have no idea what his motive are. Thank you so much.

desilove
03-04-2007, 03:37 PM
that last ***** he sent you was very scarey..im so sorry you are going through this..i have thousands of saved *****s, of people i hv never seen due to tone of ,essage..if you want ***** me his ***** and ill search my files...xox

fairemily
03-04-2007, 04:46 PM
I just wanted to send my most sincere thanks to all that has been so supportive on the board and off. Especially to a certain moderator that has given me such peace of mind. I am blessed with such great supporters and friends.

Blondegrlny
03-04-2007, 10:16 PM
This person is threatening my life and is a danger. Can I get permission to post his ******, he probably has many but it's getting scary.

Hey Emily- I've gotten mail from that guy before, a long time ago... I think it was twice at most, but I just deleted it. I didn't reply. It shocked me and I was like "what the fuck..." but, I'd never respond to someone like that, only because that's exactly what he's looking for... to get a rise out of me. Now if he directly threatened me that's a different story and he didnt do that.
I truly think he does this at random, hoping someone bites.
I don't think he seriously is going to do anything hence the "don't hold your breath" part when you challenged him to bring it on.
He's not serious, he's just a total jackass.
It's disturbing, but more than anything, remember this guy is just a lonely loser douchebag sitting in his apartment with absolutely nothing else going on in his life, apparently.
Actually now that I recall, he *****ed me another time and asked something to the effect of "how are you cum slut??" lol
Of course I deleted it.
It's not funny at all, but I had to laugh at how disturbingly lonely this fucker must be to ***** working girls randomly with the hopes just one of them gives him attention, even if it's negative attention.
Now if he's directly threatening you, that's a different story, but so far he's just vulgar and vile and he's got you responding to his shit.
I would not respond anymore.

desilove
03-05-2007, 04:12 AM
seems weve all heard from this loser...i checked my saved "blacklist" *****s and came up w/ over 20, as did a few girsl i know on the island...and to top it off this a-hole actualy tried picking me up on my space a long time ago...couldnt figure out how i knew him, was even afraid he might hv been a client..i feel the same way you do, but more then understand emilys fears and have my hat loff to her for her amazing detective skills....sucks that such a sweet woman and amazing prov has to go thrpugh this crap..xox

RuffToy
03-05-2007, 07:46 AM
Emily, I've been out of touch lately and just came across this thread. Haven't devoured all the posts but caught the gist.

If I may indulge a little advise, which has already been stated, DO NOT REPLY to this tool. It fuels his fire and gets a rise out him...it's what he wants. He wants to get a reaction from you, wants you to respond. The best and only defense is to ignore completely. I know it's tough not to fight back but in this case, it's what you must do. Maybe even drop the thread. For all you know he might be a UG member and is reading this stuff.

In fact, it will anger him more than anything to attack you without hearing your reply and not knowing how you feel.

If I missed anything, it's because I haven't read the entire thread.

blondekelly
03-05-2007, 08:37 AM
Must be something in the water last week , I had similar hate mails *****ed to me and I did answer, told him that I saved the *****s and I was sure that Yahoo would not take kindly to someone that uses their ***** service to send out threatening *****s to people and I never heard back from him.

fairemily
03-05-2007, 10:44 AM
Hey Emily- I've gotten mail from that guy before, a long time ago... I think it was twice at most, but I just deleted it. I didn't reply. It shocked me and I was like "what the fuck..." but, I'd never respond to someone like that, only because that's exactly what he's looking for... to get a rise out of me. Now if he directly threatened me that's a different story and he didnt do that.
I truly think he does this at random, hoping someone bites.
I don't think he seriously is going to do anything hence the "don't hold your breath" part when you challenged him to bring it on.
He's not serious, he's just a total jackass.
It's disturbing, but more than anything, remember this guy is just a lonely loser douchebag sitting in his apartment with absolutely nothing else going on in his life, apparently.
Actually now that I recall, he *****ed me another time and asked something to the effect of "how are you cum slut??" lol
Of course I deleted it.
It's not funny at all, but I had to laugh at how disturbingly lonely this fucker must be to ***** working girls randomly with the hopes just one of them gives him attention, even if it's negative attention.
Now if he's directly threatening you, that's a different story, but so far he's just vulgar and vile and he's got you responding to his shit.
I would not respond anymore.


At the time I did not know what I know now. I was just trying to get info to protect myself from booking him. I figures over the course of the ******s he will slip and at least give me an idea of how old he was. He wrote 3 more times today and I will not respond. At least now it is out there and other providers will not be afraid when he comes calling.

fairemily
03-05-2007, 10:50 AM
Emily, I've been out of touch lately and just came across this thread. Haven't devoured all the posts but caught the gist.

If I may indulge a little advise, which has already been stated, DO NOT REPLY to this tool. It fuels his fire and gets a rise out him...it's what he wants. He wants to get a reaction from you, wants you to respond. The best and only defense is to ignore completely. I know it's tough not to fight back but in this case, it's what you must do. Maybe even drop the thread. For all you know he might be a UG member and is reading this stuff.

In fact, it will anger him more than anything to attack you without hearing your reply and not knowing how you feel.

If I missed anything, it's because I haven't read the entire thread.


Thank you. I thought of ignoring but I take in so many new guys I just wanted to try to get more info about him. We know who he is and even have pic's. I spread the word and now he will have difficulty playing his game with others. It was not until the evening until some light was shed on his identity and he *****ed me as soon as I posted. It is very scary since I work alone.

fairemily
03-05-2007, 12:09 PM
Hey Emily- I've gotten mail from that guy before, a long time ago... I think it was twice at most, but I just deleted it. I didn't reply. It shocked me and I was like "what the fuck..." but, I'd never respond to someone like that, only because that's exactly what he's looking for... to get a rise out of me. Now if he directly threatened me that's a different story and he didnt do that.
I truly think he does this at random, hoping someone bites.
I don't think he seriously is going to do anything hence the "don't hold your breath" part when you challenged him to bring it on.
He's not serious, he's just a total jackass.
It's disturbing, but more than anything, remember this guy is just a lonely loser douchebag sitting in his apartment with absolutely nothing else going on in his life, apparently.
Actually now that I recall, he *****ed me another time and asked something to the effect of "how are you cum slut??" lol
Of course I deleted it.
It's not funny at all, but I had to laugh at how disturbingly lonely this fucker must be to ***** working girls randomly with the hopes just one of them gives him attention, even if it's negative attention.
Now if he's directly threatening you, that's a different story, but so far he's just vulgar and vile and he's got you responding to his shit.
I would not respond anymore.

I also had two hate posts on CL in the past week so I thought there might be a connection. I usually never respond but I never received anything that hateful before. I swear this guy was channeling Ted Bundy. He does have a myspace profile but so did the Ipswitch in Suffork prostitute murderer. You cannot be sure he is just all talk with that kind of graphic language. Yes, if someone wrote "hey give me head" you would ignore but you can see he is out of control. I needed to know what I was dealing with so I don't have to work in fear that this guy was my next new client and at the time I thought communication was the only route.

Blondegrlny
03-05-2007, 06:06 PM
I also had two hate posts on CL in the past week so I thought there might be a connection. I usually never respond but I never received anything that hateful before. I swear this guy was channeling Ted Bundy. He does have a myspace profile but so did the Ipswitch in Suffork prostitute murderer. You cannot be sure he is just all talk with that kind of graphic language. Yes, if someone wrote "hey give me head" you would ignore but you can see he is out of control. I needed to know what I was dealing with so I don't have to work in fear that this guy was my next new client and at the time I thought communication was the only route.

Hi Emily- Thanks for passing his info along. I remember he *****ed me even months after the first time "hey cum slut, im checking on you, how are you"...I'm sure he was throwing darts and hoping I'd reply, hoping anyone would reply... The reason I wasn't upset was because I did not think it was directed specifically at me, like you had good reason to. I certainly understand your level of concern, since you had other posts aimed at you within the same time frame.
I wouldn't talk about it on here anymore since it might be one of these guys, no offense to anyone. It's really more of a serious matter for the girls and we should discuss it privately and not on a public forum where he easily could be.

Blondegrlny
03-05-2007, 06:13 PM
Hi Emily- Thanks for passing his info along. I remember he *****ed me even months after the first time "hey cum slut, im checking on you, how are you"...I'm sure he was throwing darts and hoping I'd reply, hoping anyone would reply... The reason I wasn't upset was because I did not think it was directed specifically at me, like you had good reason to. I certainly understand your level of concern, since you had other posts aimed at you within the same time frame.
I wouldn't talk about it on here anymore since it might be one of these guys, no offense to anyone. It's really more of a serious matter for the girls and we should discuss it privately and not on a public forum where he easily could be.

Just wanted to add- the less upset he thinks you are, the better.

fairemily
03-05-2007, 07:58 PM
Hi Emily- Thanks for passing his info along. I remember he *****ed me even months after the first time "hey cum slut, im checking on you, how are you"...I'm sure he was throwing darts and hoping I'd reply, hoping anyone would reply... The reason I wasn't upset was because I did not think it was directed specifically at me, like you had good reason to. I certainly understand your level of concern, since you had other posts aimed at you within the same time frame.
I wouldn't talk about it on here anymore since it might be one of these guys, no offense to anyone. It's really more of a serious matter for the girls and we should discuss it privately and not on a public forum where he easily could be.

Jillian I can appreciate that your a private person but there is a problem when this guy has been at it for a while and nobody ever said anything to anyone. There is definitely a wall of secrecy that puts providers at danger and the only site that we can talk on is so confusing and so hard to become a member it doesn't help. I understand there are far worse things then nasty ******s but this guy might not feel satisfied terrorizing via ****** after time and start going to do it to ladies live, he's got potential for sure. His pic is now out there and it may save someone from having a very bad experience.

I have no regrets going public with these ****** and because I did I received help finding his identity, IP address and myspace profile and the word was spread. He is not married and does not own two corporations and is actually a member of at least 6 dating sites including one to get a bootycall. He is a very disturbed and sad man and I actaully feel sorry for him. The powers that be here have his IP address and was assured he is not a member and will not be allowed to become one.

fairemily
03-05-2007, 08:02 PM
Just wanted to add- the less upset he thinks you are, the better.

I stopped becoming upset when I found out who he is and just felt sadness. This is a poor pathetic man probably cannot comprehend thinking past his our sickness to get off thinking he upset me. He is not a normally functioning human, he needs to be locked up in an institution to get the help he desperately needs.

Blondegrlny
03-05-2007, 08:32 PM
Jillian I can appreciate that your a private person but there is a problem when this guy has been at it for a while and nobody ever said anything to anyone. There is definitely a wall of secrecy that puts providers at danger and the only site that we can talk on is so confusing and so hard to become a member it doesn't help. I understand there are far worse things then nasty ******s but this guy might not feel satisfied terrorizing via ****** after time and start going to do it to ladies live, he's got potential for sure. His pic is now out there and it may save someone from having a very bad experience.

I have no regrets going public with these ****** and because I did I received help finding his identity, IP address and myspace profile and the word was spread. He is not married and does not own two corporations and is actually a member of at least 6 dating sites including one to get a bootycall. He is a very disturbed and sad man and I actaully feel sorry for him. The powers that be here have his IP address and was assured he is not a member and will not be allowed to become one.

Hi, I meant private as in, among the girls/providers. Of course we should tell other working girls about it. Also we shouldn't try to engage or entice a guy like him into a challenge, like the *****s suggested "you're a coward hiding behind a computer, bring it on" etc, if he's truly a psycho, which it sounds like he is... last thing we want is for him to have more reasons to actually become physically threatening.
I think the girls should ***** each other blacklists and numbers and keep each other up to date on assholes like this guy.
Also I don't want to give any other possibly problematic clients, any ideas from these boards, on how to get under our skin and make us feel weak, because you know some jerk will take advantage of it especially if they're a sick individual.
I agree with you, he's a very sick and sad man, and more girls should be more forthcoming with other girls about these types of individuals, I completely and 100% agree.

LorenzoDeMedici
03-06-2007, 04:40 AM
Damn... This guy is Nasty!!! My suggestion would be to report him & then Ignore him. He's not worth responding to. But obviously Be Very Careful. And I would not rule out the notion that it is some agency trying to intimidate you but making it seem like one individual. This is where I really feel for you ladies, I have never been one to judge what you ladies do, but I don't know how you deal with this element of your profession. Also I know you are quite knowledgable on your own but Alyssa definitely has a good handle on things. I hope for all of your sakes that you network the way that she describes.

LorenzoDeMedici
03-06-2007, 04:48 AM
Ooops I don't know why I didn't see todays posts until I posted?
Regardless, I hope this goes away & you remain safe!

desilove
03-06-2007, 10:16 AM
Emily because you are in the city and i havent had any new ***** probs really since coming to ug i never thought to include you in the "LI chain" i am adding you to my list as well as the other girls who advert on here and will ***** thru contact imfo here the "bad" list we have..and will unpdate you of anything new..i guess the LI nuts extend themselves to all 5 bor.'s...stay safe...you handled this in an amazing way and your determination and willingness to share what you are going through has now put me and close to 30 provs on the island in the know as far as this man goes..so from all us Li girls thanks..xox

fairemily
03-06-2007, 04:52 PM
Damn... This guy is Nasty!!! My suggestion would be to report him & then Ignore him. He's not worth responding to. But obviously Be Very Careful. And I would not rule out the notion that it is some agency trying to intimidate you but making it seem like one individual. This is where I really feel for you ladies, I have never been one to judge what you ladies do, but I don't know how you deal with this element of your profession. Also I know you are quite knowledgable on your own but Alyssa definitely has a good handle on things. I hope for all of your sakes that you network the way that she describes.

Thank you for your caring comments. It's hard to deal with things sometimes but having the support from Alyssa (she is the best) and one proment member who contacted me privately (he might not want to be named but knows who I referring to) the issue was resolved and the culprit identified. I received other supportive and helpful ******s from other member I know on Mon. I learned some new ways to protect myself and hopefully this guy will not be able to terrorize anyone else so easily. Any indy provider who is not part of this board should really reconsider it because without it I would be lost.

fairemily
03-06-2007, 04:54 PM
Emily because you are in the city and i havent had any new ***** probs really since coming to ug i never thought to include you in the "LI chain" i am adding you to my list as well as the other girls who advert on here and will ***** thru contact imfo here the "bad" list we have..and will unpdate you of anything new..i guess the LI nuts extend themselves to all 5 bor.'s...stay safe...you handled this in an amazing way and your determination and willingness to share what you are going through has now put me and close to 30 provs on the island in the know as far as this man goes..so from all us Li girls thanks..xox


I could have handled it better but the end results were what matters. Thank you so much again, you kept me grounded while I was in the thick of it. It's great to have such a strong support group.

Bandaid
03-06-2007, 05:03 PM
Emily, sorry you're going through this. I don't know you, but there's never any reason anybody should put up with this, and no reason for an honest provider to be treated badly anytime.

LorenzoDeMedici
03-07-2007, 03:43 AM
Thank you for your caring comments. It's hard to deal with things sometimes but having the support from Alyssa (she is the best) and one proment member who contacted me privately (he might not want to be named but knows who I referring to) the issue was resolved and the culprit identified. I received other supportive and helpful ******s from other member I know on Mon. I learned some new ways to protect myself and hopefully this guy will not be able to terrorize anyone else so easily. Any indy provider who is not part of this board should really reconsider it because without it I would be lost.

You are quite Welcome. And I'm both glad & hopeful that things are being taken care of for you. I have had the experience of engaging in UTR relationships with a few girls over the past 3 years who were quite young & inexperienced. One of the things I always tried to impress on them was to be Much more careful.To which I have been teased "Sure thing.. daddy" I even told one girl (who let me pick her up & take her in my car on the first "date") That she was out of her mind to not make sure she had someone watching her leave and aware of my vehicle. Moreover that she let me be aware of this fact. Her naive answer was that if anything happened "they" would eventually find out. I told her the idea is not to have anything found out after the fact!! I haven't spoken to her in almost 8 months and often wonder if she's OK. Glad you are though!

fairemily
03-07-2007, 09:02 AM
You are quite Welcome. And I'm both glad & hopeful that things are being taken care of for you. I have had the experience of engaging in UTR relationships with a few girls over the past 3 years who were quite young & inexperienced. One of the things I always tried to impress on them was to be Much more careful.To which I have been teased "Sure thing.. daddy" I even told one girl (who let me pick her up & take her in my car on the first "date") That she was out of her mind to not make sure she had someone watching her leave and aware of my vehicle. Moreover that she let me be aware of this fact. Her naive answer was that if anything happened "they" would eventually find out. I told her the idea is not to have anything found out after the fact!! I haven't spoken to her in almost 8 months and often wonder if she's OK. Glad you are though!

My way of being careful was not dismissing these vile messages as nothing. I get the usual pervert but in all my years I have never seen anything so hateful. I took them very seriously because you never know who is on the other end. It's good you look after these ladies, I would always warn new girls in places I worked at and actually get in trouble by the owner for installing fear. Most people live in denial there is bad people out there. I believe that good people are the majority though.

midnite-rider
05-01-2007, 02:13 PM
My way of being careful was not dismissing these vile messages as nothing. I get the usual pervert but in all my years I have never seen anything so hateful. I took them very seriously because you never know who is on the other end. It's good you look after these ladies, I would always warn new girls in places I worked at and actually get in trouble by the owner for installing fear. Most people live in denial there is bad people out there. I believe that good people are the majority though.

just saw this thread today.

I'm glad that things worked out for the better. you are an amazing person with the courage to stand up for yourself. no one should have to go thru what you did.

take care.

fairemily
05-02-2007, 12:18 PM
just saw this thread today.

I'm glad that things worked out for the better. you are an amazing person with the courage to stand up for yourself. no one should have to go thru what you did.

take care.


Thank you. It turns out I was just next on his list. He harressed and African American provider the following week with racial slurs and she posted all his info on CL including his myspace page. He is just a very sick guy who's only form of communication is harresssing providers. Now his name and pic has been circulated around so other ladies are aware.