Hasidic Massage Parlors

[Daty]

Are their Hasidic Massage Parlors?

I don't know about the rest of you, but something about Hasidic women turns me on.

[marc]

HaHaHa!!!! This has got to be the funniest post ever!!

[Troutman]

Sure, with a big sign in each room that says

"Kipah your hands to yourself."

[Cheater]

Yeah, there's a rope down the middle of the room - you have to stay on your side!

[Slinky Bender]

Mameleh, how about a bissle keppi ?

[Geezy Muldoon]

Probably only offer full service through the legendary hole in the sheet. Have to agree, though, that many of these women are quite attractive. Good incentive, I suppose, for men to stay obedient to the many unrelenting strictures of that way of life.

[Daty]

I suppose instead of the table shower, one would have to use the mikvah

[MrNY]

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[MrNY]

cruise the streets (and corners) in Monsey.....

[All66]

I understand that some guys have their fantasies. And there is nothing bad or unusual about it. My god, you should see one of mine. But BEING SERIOUS. I am sure that many Role Play places you can for sure provide whatever you want. If you can get there somebody performing as a german tourist or sweedish school girl, why couldn't you request a hasidic woman. I am sure girls would find your idea very interesting and it will be intertainment for both sides. Check New York Mag. Role Play section. They have many real professionals advertising there. Don't be shy - shop around. And do me a favor, tell us about your experience, whatever, if you gonna get it or not. Good luck, seriously! Al.

[panzerhund]

Does it have to be kosher?

[mydesign]

Originally posted by All66
I understand that some guys have their fantasies. And there is nothing bad or unusual about it. My god, you should see one of mine.

Image of man with locks in a fedora and thick wool coat doing the nasty with woman in long plain skirt.

[Amazed_45]

The radio ad for NY Lottery. The one where they're pretending to promote an Amish singles bar.

The wet bonnet contest, "I could totally see her head"

Anyone remember that? I think it was the NY Lottery.

[Carl M]

it was for Budweiser.

[mr. wonderful]

You guys must be on drugs. There is no such thing as an attractive Hasidic woman. And even if there was, you couldn't get any because you're not allowed to touch them. And BTW, that's not their real hair, but those are their real kids (all six or seven of them).

You guys must be in real dire straits to even consider such a notion.

MW

[JoeyP]

Yea and Blacks dance good, MOT's make good accountants, and providers fall in love woth hobbyists all the time.

NOT

I've met some very beautifull women of all groups and persuasions. The most frustratiing ones are gay and gorgeous because there I know there is no chance for me!

And by the way, I don't do drugs and am definetly not hard up......but then of course I'm not Mr. wonderful

[zach]

Originally posted by mr. wonderful
You guys must be on drugs. There is no such thing as an attractive Hasidic woman. And even if there was, you couldn't get any because you're not allowed to touch them. And BTW, that's not their real hair, but those are their real kids (all six or seven of them).

You guys must be in real dire straits to even consider such a notion.

MW

They should call you MR. Obnoxious.

[Amazed_45]

I had a girlfriend from about 25 years ago who became Hassidic...and she was a knock-out.

I also have 2 ex-girlfriends who became lesbians and another 2 who became a psychiatrists.

Go figure.

[JoeyP]

Originally posted by Amazed_45
I had a girlfriend from about 25 years ago who became Hassidic...and she was a knock-out.

I also have 2 ex-girlfriends who became lesbians and another 2 who became a psychiatrists.

Go figure.

You have an interesting effect on women!!

[Amazed_45]

Believe me - I do take it personally. I also have some ex's who, I've been told, lead normal lives.

[JoeyP]

So then you only have this effect on some.

I wonder what makes the difference? Lie down on the couch and we'll analyze this.

[Amazed_45]

Well Dr. Joey, I think it was my mother...she stopped breast feeding me when I was 27.

[JoeyP]

Aha

An eddapussy complex with breast fixations.

There is a cure, you know (don't tell Freud). It's important that we speak further in order to protect the women of the world.

Perhaps we are trying hypnosis...........are you getting sleepy yet? If not please reread posts about rediculously large breasts here and write me in the morning:

http://www.utopiaguide.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=2674

Sincerely
Dr. J

[tros]

Originally posted by Judge Crater
Probably only offer full service through the legendary hole in the sheet. Have to agree, though, that many of these women are quite attractive. Good incentive, I suppose, for men to stay obedient to the many unrelenting strictures of that way of life.

FYI

There is no basis for that the myth "a sheet with a hole." According to Jewish Orthodox law one should enjoy sex. Of course only with his wife.

[tros]

Originally posted by mr. wonderful
You guys must be on drugs. There is no such thing as an attractive Hasidic woman. And even if there was, you couldn't get any because you're not allowed to touch them. And BTW, that's not their real hair, but those are their real kids (all six or seven of them).

You guys must be in real dire straits to even consider such a notion.

MW

Well i agree with with you that in your case with your eyes "There is no such thing as an attractive Hasidic woman" Since bigots are usually blind.

"And even if there was, you couldn't get any because you're not allowed to touch them."
Du-ha, Hasidic is a lifestyle not a race if you could touch them then they are not really Hassidic.

I assume the attraction is "you're not allowed to touch them."

[mydesign]

Originally posted by tros


FYI

There is no basis for that the myth "a sheet with a hole." According to Jewish Orthodox law one should enjoy sex. Of course only with his wife.


Then my wife has been lying to me for all these years???

[tros]

Originally posted by mydesign



Then my wife has been lying to me for all these years???

take her to rabbinical court

[All66]

I was born and raised in very hassidic community. I garantie you there are very nice looking women there. I was molested (not a complaint) at the age of 19 by one of my mothers friend. She had a dream body and her passion and performancr... I was just to young and unexperiences to appreciate that diamond. Trust me thera are some girls under wigs. Very hot one.

[exrubbernecker]

Years ago i worked with a female hacidic f/s provider. I worked indy from my apartment and she paid me to use my place to see her private clients.She was attractive, mid 30's, tall and slim, shaved head w/ wig, 2 kids at home. She was married to a rabbi. It was HIS idea for her to work, she gave the clients her home # and told them to phone her after her children were asleep. Her rabbi husband would silently get on the extension when she set her appointments up because it turned him on. The whole situation really made me sick. thank God he never requested hiding in the apartment during the session! She only worked for a short time.

We have many hasidic men visit our establishment. They usually "finish" before we even touch them. They are the most repressed men imaginable.

[Casper]

Years ago i worked with a female hacidic f/s provider. I worked indy from my apartment and she paid me to use my place to see her private clients.She was attractive, mid 30's, tall and slim, shaved head w/ wig, 2 kids at home. She was married to a rabbi. It was HIS idea for her to work, she gave the clients her home # and told them to phone her after her children were asleep. Her rabbi husband would silently get on the extension when she set her appointments up because it turned him on. The whole situation really made me sick. thank God he never requested hiding in the apartment during the session! She only worked for a short time.

We have many hasidic men visit our establishment. They usually "finish" before we even touch them. They are the most repressed men imaginable.

He would have watched if she was getting DP'd or TP'd .. I'll bet on it. In this world it takes all kinds and that's just the way I like it. I guess she's long retired ?

[Thorn]

Originally posted by tros


FYI

There is no basis for that the myth "a sheet with a hole." According to Jewish Orthodox law one should enjoy sex. Of course only with his wife.

That is orthodox Jewish doctrine. Hasidim are to orthodox practice as some Christian Fundlementalists are to the Roman Catholic Church.

They practice an extreme doctrine and their take on the writings of the Talmud [Mishna and Gemara] are quite strict.

I know a goodly number. While its sometimes a bit hard to get close in the Summer time due to the problems inherint in wearing a heavy black wool coat in the north east's heat and humidity, they are by in large an intelligent, congenial, group of people who make good neighbors. Though I do wish they would allow their kids a bit more exposure to the outside world. You should hear the questions they ask of me. [chuckling] Out of consideration to their parents faith I always defer them to their parents for answers, but the questions denote a very closed and cloistered life style.

[mydesign]

the Amish of the Jewish world?

[tros]

Originally posted by Thorn


That is orthodox Jewish doctrine. Hasidim are to orthodox practice as some Christian Fundlementalists are to the Roman Catholic Church.

They practice an extreme doctrine and their take on the writings of the Talmud [Mishna and Gemara] are quite strict.

I know a goodly number. While its sometimes a bit hard to get close in the Summer time due to the problems inherint in wearing a heavy black wool coat in the north east's heat and humidity, they are by in large an intelligent, congenial, group of people who make good neighbors. Though I do wish they would allow their kids a bit more exposure to the outside world. You should hear the questions they ask of me. [chuckling] Out of consideration to their parents faith I always defer them to their parents for answers, but the questions denote a very closed and cloistered life style.

I understand that, nevertheless the hole thing is still a myth even with the ultra fanatic Jewish groups. I always just wonder how that got started.

All very fanatic groups Jewish Islamic etc live "a very closed and cloistered life style.” If not many more would abandon their faith. The closed life style is a safety mechanism

[mydesign]

Originally posted by tros

The closed life style is a safety mechanism

As is the sheet with the hole.

[All66]

Best kept secret: there is NO hole in a sheet.

[tros]

Originally posted by All66
Best kept secret: there is NO hole in a sheet.

hey All66

how do you convice the skeptics that the hole thing in a myth I try to tell people but they won't listen

[mydesign]

Originally posted by tros

how do you convice the skeptics that the hole thing in a myth I try to tell people but they won't listen

tros, considering that many of us are men who go to providers for wanton sex, do you seriously think we think any man would have sex on a regular basis with his wife without touching her naked body?

OK, maybe if he's paralyzed from the neck down, but that is the only situation I can think of.

[Casper]

Originally posted by tros


hey All66

how do you convice the skeptics that the hole thing in a myth I try to tell people but they won't listen

My guess on how this all got started: a neighbor noticed a hole in the sheet as the Hasidic wife hung it out on the clothes line. For fear of being too embarrased in having torn linens, she replied: don't tell anyone but we have sexual relations through it. Well you know how that goes once you tell someone "don't tell anyone" ..... the rest is history JMHO :)

Peace Out
C

[Troutman]

It's true that there is usually a hole in the sheet, but it's produced by the outrageous flatulence their terrible diet gives them. Sex has nothing to do with it...well, maybe a few friction burns, but that's it.

[j1rose]

OIY VEY
VEN I VAS JUSSST A TEENAGER ....
HAD AN ORTHODOX GIRLFIEND . WHEN I PICKED HER UP _ RIGHTAWAY A BLOW JOB IN HE CAR ON THE HENRY HUDSON PKWAY DOING 60 MPH

THNE A GOOD FCK IN THE BACKSEAT DURING THE DRIVEN .
OIY VEY WHAT A SEX MANIAC.







JULES

[All66]

When I was 19, it was 1949 and your girlfriends mothers were still virgins. I was born and raised in orthodox jewish family from Poland. I hoped you would believe, when I said THERE IS NO HOLE IN A SHEET. You did not. I don't blame you: it's too funny myth to give up just for some crazy old jew. But the major problem for my sexual life was not this joke. Try to be faithful, wheh you can not have sex with you wife 2,5 weeks out of 4. Another inconvenience: you have to keep separate beds. How about to love and to charish some "very nice girl", you just met 3 days before wedding and look - she is you wife now. Wigs part is not that bad. Some girls have realy thin and ugly hair. Wigs become them much better. As a matter of fact it's a hole industry. Some wigs cost up to 5,000 and are so beautyfull and natural, you Irish girlfriend would wish you could afford buying one for her. Diet-shmaet, my mother's chiken-motzaball soup was to die for. You don't like it - I will have more for myself, he-he. Would you like to know my sexual fantasy about hasidic woman? I would realy like to do her on a top of Harley Davidson. Her - facing front and me right behind her. Not to bad for 72 y.o. If you would like to tell me that she will loose her wig in a process, don't bother: they fix them really tight. :)

[ahandshake]

I'm wondering about the whole wig thing...

There are three or four Hasidic women working in my company and I'm pretty sure, at least in two cases, that they're not wearing wigs... they've styled their hair in ways that would be somewhat difficult for wigs... implants, maybe, but not wigs.

Anyway, I'm kind of skeptical about a lot of the common "rules" you hear about Hasidics. I had a lot of these "stereotypes" stuck in my head until I starting talking a lot to one of the Hasidic women, a business analyst for my company. She said a lot of what we hear are misconceptions. She's spent countless hours explaining Judaism and Hasidism to me because she was so surprised to find a non-Jew who was interested enough to ask so many questions...

And she seems to be fairly hardcore Hasidic... :-)

[Daty]

Originally posted by Daty
Are their Hasidic Massage Parlors?

I don't know about the rest of you, but something about Hasidic women turns me on.

This thread is still ticking but my question has yet to be answered, signed Still Looking! :) (Daty)

[mydesign]

Originally posted by Daty


This thread is still ticking but my question has yet to be answered, signed Still Looking! :) (Daty)

you mean you was serious?

[mr_namrepus]

Re: I'm wondering about the whole wig thing...

There are three or four Hasidic women working in my company and I'm pretty sure, at least in two cases, that they're not wearing wigs... they've styled their hair in ways that would be somewhat difficult for wigs... implants, maybe, but not wigs.

---

If they are genuinely Hasidic women then I'm sure that they wear wigs. The wigs look genuine, so I'm not surprised that you are "wondering." If they are Orthodox (non-Hasidic) than they are either wearing wigs or simply cover their hair with a hat or kerchief.

[nycguy1967]

This reminds me of one of my favorite jokes:

Yussel is meeting with the Rebbe before his wedding.

The old Rebbe is explaining to him that although he will soon be married, there are still certain restrictions of the faith that he must continue to adhere to, in particular no displays of affection in public, including hand-holding, and in spite of their being married, men and women must never dance together.

He goes on to point out that sexual relations is a mitzvah (good deed in the eyes of God) for married couples and once they are married, he encourages Yussel and his new wife to partake in this mitzvah.

Yussel is pleased to learn this and asks “So once we are married, we can have sex not only in bed, but on the floor if we wish?”

The Rabbi says “Certainly, it’s a mitzvah”

“And we could have sex lying on the living room couch?”

“Of course, it’s a mitzvah”

“And sitting in a chair?”

“Of course, it’s a mitzvah”

“And we could have sex standing up?”

Shocked by this question, the Rabbi berates him, “ NO!! You must NEVER have sex standing up!! NEVER!”

“But Rebbe” Yussel asks “why not?”

The Rabbi says, “ It could lead to dancing.”

[seeker]

Originally posted by MrNY
cruise the streets (and corners) in Monsey.....

yeah I could just see the hatzola guys chasing someone witht the ambulance, for that matter try new square...........


vous machtze??????????

[All66]

Actually, I don't see why hassidim devorcies don't work in MP. They sure can

[ahandshake]

Originally posted by mr_namrepus
Re: I'm wondering about the whole wig thing...

If they are genuinely Hasidic women then I'm sure that they wear wigs. The wigs look genuine, so I'm not surprised that you are "wondering." If they are Orthodox (non-Hasidic) than they are either wearing wigs or simply cover their hair with a hat or kerchief.

Let's put it this way... if you look at the hairline, it looks as if you would cause them a severe amount of pain trying to yank the wig off. I really don't know wigs all that well, but just looking at the hair, the hairline, etc., it doesn't seem possible that those are wigs and not real heads of hair we're seeing. I've been LOOKING for this stuff after hearing about these traditions and whatnot. Of course, I've never really went up and asked them, "Yo, that a rug on your head?"

I also wonder why they would even wear a wig? Are they supposed to keep their real hair ugly or something?

[mr_namrepus]

It is considered immodest for a woman to show her hair to anyone but her husband.

[All66]

Modern times wigs are so perfect, beautyfull and also very expensive. They insert single hair at a time to the skin-like base, so it looks better then real. You can look as long as you want, but you wont be able to see the difference. MY wife use to spend $5,000 a piece. For that kind of money you can expect something much better then her real ones. Besides modesty, that orthodox woman covers her head, for only husband could see her, another reason came from antient times, when uncovering woman's head was jesture of punishment and shame.

[dumpy]

Q: What's the worst thing you can say to a Rabbi?
A: I just PORKED your daughter.

[me8989]

Now I know why G-D led me to this trafeh site - to clear up all your misconceptions about us chasidim!
Ok, here goes:
The tumel about the hole in the sheet, comes from our tzitzis. Tzitzis is a garment that we men wear under or over our shirts. It's a four cornered sheet with a HOLE in the middle, to stick our HEADS (the one with the eyes, ears, nose and beard) through, and it has tzitzis (strings) on each of the four corners. Now when our mamas used to wash the tztizis, and hung it to dry on the washing line, guess what the goyim saw - a sheet with a hole in it! Because of the lack of cholent in their stomachs, they could only think of one use for such a sheet.

To the guy who can't determine what's a shaitel (wig) or not.
Well, first of all, not everyone who wears a wig is chasidish. The more 'MODERN' chasidim wear a wig that starts a couple of inches behind the hairline. This is called a FALL. When wearing a fall, the natural hairline is visible. The way to tell if someone is wearing a fall, is to see if the're wearing a band. The band is necessary when wearing a fall, so that you shouldn't be able to tell where the fall starts.

[pswope]

I hear Raquel Welch is coming out with a line of Shaitels including one that replicates her hairdo from 1MM Years BC.

[JackieMason]

Oy Vey. Vat am I doing here. U are a bunch of anti-semites. I better go. I better leave. Goodbye.

[mydesign]

Originally posted by me8989

The tumel about the hole in the sheet, comes from our tzitzis. Tzitzis is a garment that we men wear under or over our shirts. It's a four cornered sheet with a HOLE in the middle, to stick our HEADS (the one with the eyes, ears, nose and beard) through, and it has tzitzis (strings) on each of the four corners.

Us goyims call this a "poncho"

[JackieMason]

Originally posted by mydesign


Us goyims call this a "poncho"

Ha, just as I suspected, u are goyim.

[daro]

I was trying to follow along on this entertaining thread.
But the words through me for a loop. So I came up with a
KHOKHME. I looked up goyim. Gave me a list of all the words
you are using. What a concept. I found out I am a SHEYGETS.
I knew that already from my last provider. Everything shewanted from me sheygets. LOL. I can now. I'm also a MESHUNGINA.
You guys are O.K. You got your own special language.
It's better than ebonics. At least you spell the words
correctly. LOL. No offense to the ebonic lovers. Don't need
any brothers coming down on me. Will follow along much
better now. GLIK to all of you.

[JackieMason]

Originally posted by daro
Don't need
any brothers coming down on me. Will follow along much
better now. GLIK to all of you. [/B]

These brothers are so sensitive. How cum?

[daro]

Originally posted by JackieMason


These brothers are so sensitive. How cum?

Don't know why. Maybe they don't appreciate Jackie Mason's
routine. Probably don't spend time in comedy clubs. I guess they are more familar with, and spend more time, observing Perry Mason's routine. LOL. It's only a joke. Said tongue in cheek.

Jackie, good to meet you, gotta go, it's time to NOSH.

[joel]

As Daro's only jewish relative, I thought I might chime in. The jewish faith is tiered according to the level of religious observance and adherance to the word of God. It goes from Hassidic to Orthodox to Conservative to Reform to Reconstructionist to the purely secular.

Since the Hassidim are the most strictly observant to the Talmud (jewish law) and said law is clear in it's position on prostitution, I would say the odds of finding a hassidic provider are as astronomical as finding, say, a gay pedophilic Catholic preist....oh..wait a minute....forget it.

[mydesign]

Originally posted by daro
Everything shewanted from me sheygets. LOL. I can now. I'm also a MESHUNGINA.


Well ILUVAGINA



Originally posted by joel
Since the Hassidim are the most strictly observant to the Talmud (jewish law) and said law is clear in it's position on prostitution, I would say the odds of finding a hassidic provider are as astronomical as finding, say, a gay pedophilic Catholic preist....oh..wait a minute....forget it.


Joel has just outpaced daro on the funniness meter.

[daro]

Mydesign, when you're right , you're right.
Mazel - Tov to my brother.
It was a real koonts for him, eventhough he is a maven at this.
I kvell for him.
This is some educational reading, in all seriousness.
I got this shtick down ok for a polish goyim.
Now I need to find a non-shikse, with a shayna ponim, and a
nice tuchis. I got gelt and I'm ready to handl.
I think I'm going to like this language so far. As long as I don't
see any Yiddish word for laptop, I'm golden.
Shalom

[Slinky Bender]

Just stay away from the farbisseneh punem.

[joel]

Originally posted by daro
Mydesign, when you're right , you're right.
Mazel - Tov to my brother.
It was a real koonts for him, eventhough he is a maven at this.
I kvell for him.
This is some educational reading, in all seriousness.
I got this shtick down ok for a polish goyim.
Now I need to find a non-shikse, with a shayna ponim, and a
nice tuchis. I got gelt and I'm ready to handl.
I think I'm going to like this language so far. As long as I don't
see any Yiddish word for laptop, I'm golden.
Shalom


DARO:

I'm always amazed by people who want to become jewish who don't have to be. But in any event, to further your education: Yiddish is a european language with a lot of german root. Those of us who were born in the 50's or so had parents or grandparents who spoke it but the recent Americanization of the language during the past half century has reduced it to a dialect of slang. You are aware, of course, that hebrew is the language of religious text and the common vernacular of the State of Israel. So my old joke goes like this:

Question: Why is hebrew read from right to left, while most languages go from left to right.

Answer: It comes from an old Jewish custom when reading a menu. First they look to see what the price is, then over to see what the food is.

[daro]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by joel
[B]


DARO:

I'm always amazed by people who want to become jewish who don't have to be.

Joel, I know what you mean. Yes, I did know that Hebrew was
the official language. I was using the Goyim's Guide To Yiddish
I found on the web. Going through life as a catholic, I amazed
myself, that I knew so very little about the Jewish faith.
It's like I was raised with tunnel vision. We all live together here,
but we really don't know anything about each other's way of
life. It's sad. We're like total strangers. At least I am in that
regard. I know I don't have to say this to you, you know me
fairly well, but if I was a little overzealous about this, it was
only because of my lack of knowledge on the subject matter.
I was not attempting to poke fun or speak light of anything.
It's tough enough to be a catholic and we only have 10 laws.
It's too late in life to switch teams. I'll stay in my league and
just appreciate you guys in the other league. As long as there
is inter league play, we can all get along and enjoy each others
company. Yes, I enjoyed the old joke. It was a new joke to me,
because all of this is new to me.
Thanks for the education. I sorely needed it. Always good to talk
to you bro.
Daro

[joel]

Daro:

I wasn't picking on you at all. It's just that I am the most non-religious heretical guy you'll ever meet and I've spent most of my life trying to escape the whole thing. Believe me, I was dragged kicking and screaming to my Bar-mitzvah and I'm only thankful that they circumcise us at 8 days instead of 13 years. Be cool Bro, maybe one day I'll show you a mikvah (look that one up). It might be a good place to pick up some tuchis. Maybe GreekGirl will come with us and we'll make sammiches (kosher of course).

[daro]

Originally posted by slinkybender
Just stay away from the farbisseneh punem.

Slinky, I just read about that on the web. I want no part of that.
I'm going back to a language I know about. The language of
the God's. A nice sized prized A$$ convinced me which direction
my staff of life should be pointing toward. Now all I need to hear
from her is, "give me the leche." LOL.
Thanks for the advice.

[joseph2]

A "shidduch" made in cyberspace. Don't forget, its customary for the bride to shave her head on the night of her wedding. So, which one of you is the bride?

[daro]

Joel, I know you weren't picking on me.
That's why I said I know what you mean and later said I know
I don't have to say this to you. I looked up mikvah. I saw a
picture of it and read about it. I've seen greekgirls ass on her
web page. Just like Chief Brodie said they needed a bigger boat,
when he saw the size of the shark. Brother I can honestly tell
you this, we are going to need a bigger mikvah. And you and I may still not get wet. LOL.
Yes, we are brothers, we are big, and we are mean.
That's our attraction. IMHO. Bro, you and I are always cool.

[All66]

I've met this girl. She works as a receptionist for one of very well known and loved joints in Central Jersey. She use to work in rooms there for few years also. She was born and raised as a catholic. In a age of 19 she meets this jewish guy, who made her pregnant. She've got completely brainwashed by him and his family. So, she drops from college and goes thru very long(2 years) and very difficult procedure of conversion into Judaism(we have a special word for it, Daro will find the name in his dictionary, lol). Now, she is very dissapointed in both religions and call us(catholics and jews) two-faced hypocryts. Go figure now!
I would mention her name and location, but I repect her too much for rare combination of brain and beauty.

[daro]

All66, I may let my secretary do the research on that one for me

She's good at research. Doesn't take dictation. JUST DICK! LOL.
It's an oldie, but goodie.

[joel]

Originally posted by All66
I've met this girl. She works as a receptionist for one of very well known and loved joints in Central Jersey. She use to work in rooms there for few years also. She was born and raised as a catholic. In a age of 19 she meets this jewish guy, who made her pregnant. She've got completely brainwashed by him and his family. So, she drops from college and goes thru very long(2 years) and very difficult procedure of conversion into Judaism(we have a special word for it, Daro will find the name in his dictionary, lol). Now, she is very dissapointed in both religions and call us(catholics and jews) two-faced hypocryts. Go figure now!
I would mention her name and location, but I repect her too much for rare combination of brain and beauty.

Most people are in the religion they are born with. They think they believe what they think they believe, because they are told to by their parents, clergy and others at a time in life when they are too young to think critically. Religious belief, in my opinion requires the abandonment of critical thought, that is, NO religion can stand up to a critical analysis.

By having been a member of 2 religions, the girl you met has had the opportunity to see that there is NO rational basis for religion. It exists for 2 reasons (IMHO of course):

1) from the perspective of the individual religious adherant, to provide comfort. For those to whom reality is too scary, too lonely, or unacceptable in any way, religion provides an escape, a way to feel wanted. Religious euphoria is similar to the world of the drug addict or alchoholic without the detrimental physical effects.

2)from the perspective of those who start a religion, the theocratic ideologs and the higher echelon of clergy, it is the time proven method of controlling the behaviour of large masses of people. You'll see that whenever a government needs to mobolize forces, prayer comes into the forefront. After the Sept. 11th attacks 'God Bless America' became the present administrations credo. In 1954, during the height of the cold war, the 'under GOD' portion of the pledge of allegiance was added (long after the founding fathers were dead and buried, I might add).


I am aware that the above critique represents an unpopular viewpoint, however it is my viewpoint. I would expect the U.G. crowd to be a somewhat more freethinking group than the norm and am curious to see how it it recieved.


I'm getting pretty well off the original subject here. Sorry.

[redleg609]

Ah, the "Opiate of the People" theory of religion.

Nothing wrong with that.

[joel]

Originally posted by redleg609
Ah, the "Opiate of the People" theory of religion.

Nothing wrong with that.

Except I'm no Marxist.

[mydesign]

Marx - Jewish by birth, yet athiest by choice.

[joel]

Maybe there is some similarity after all.

Another interesting thing about Marx - he apparantly made a lot of money in the stock market in his day. Even though he had an intense critique of capitalism, he wasn't stupid.

Just goes to show you though, 2 atheists can be as different as Marx and, say, Ayn Rand, a commie and a laizzai faire capitalist.

[All66]

Joke:
Two fishes in a fishtank, having fight over something very inportant:
- Fine, you say there is no god. Then, tell me who cleans the water in the aquarium?