Wgs

[rtala34]

i am a regular and have been since they opened going about twice a month. Great place so clean and nice. I have never gotten more than a HJ don't get me wrong I am always allowed to touch and suck a little but that was it but depending on who you get the message can be good or crap. I like LiLi or Joy they are excellent, two cups if you request I once got a cup in the shower room. The girls rotate pretty frequently. They never do outcall despite my repeated efforts. Great Hj experience and worth the $$

[justme]

And here I thought this was a thread about the grandaddy of hobbyboards.

[nycguy1967]

do you mean WGS?? (West garden Spa) NOt WSG (World sex guide)?

You had me confused too!

[skygoggles4]

In the shower room...where.. exactly the showers...the table shower or in the locker room. I consider myself a regular and never had the pleasure. Who was it the mexican girl who administers the table shower or one of the regular girls. I have been massaged by Helen, Lily and Yumi and have never been offered, but don't get me wrong every time I visit I insist on any of the three.

[justme]

Now I'm really confused.

[tomatch]

Probably good a new thread has been started on the subject. I assume the author meant West Garden Spa. I've been about 7 times - always great massage. Have been with MiMi, May and ?? - can't remember the others. Since I'm more into Latin girls than asian I've tried to hit up the table shower girls every time and tipped them up fromt (though only $5 - 7) but either because of language barrier or lack of interest on their part (or instruction from mamasan) never produced anything. Nvere gotten the Latin girl(s) who work ther either. Never gotten two cups, got to 2nd base a few times but didn't feel anymore was welcome. Ususally go at lunch hr. or right after work. Other reviews have said that night time might be more successful. Anyone reallly gotten anything more than a feel up top? How do you request more than 1 cup? Do you ask at the beginning? I too see myself as a regular there but anytime I ask for a particular girl I get an excuse and usually get a girl I haven't been with before which makes it harder (no pun intended). Any thoughts on tipping the mamasan to get the best? Someone recently made the suggestion of bringing the tip to the room with the girl also - not a bad idea - I'll try it next time. Same problem at Nu Look to which WGS is often compared but IMHO WGS is a notch above.

[MrNY]

how much do you tip ? if the door is $75, do you give at least $75 to the girl ?

ask for angela...

don't be so polite - not rude - but, don't wait for them to offer ...

a tip to mama is never bad (if you're a regular, once a month, give'r $20) - it goes a very long way...

always be polite and respectful - to everyone there...

have you had more success elsewhere ? it just might be a case of ymmv ?

[tomatch]

I usually tip $40 or $50, after the fact - when I'm dressed, depending on how much roaming is allowed. Mimi gave a prostate massage during the HR which was nice so I tipped a little more - have asked for her again but she never seems to be there when I go now. I think $75 tip is a little steep for HR but if you're implying a gurantee of extra service it migt be worth it. Never seen Angela - is she Latina? I still like the challenge of trying to get the shower girl to give me a little extra. I imagine thatthis owuld be particularly difficult when they are busy as people are lined up in the locker room wiating for their shower. Do you know the name of the desk lady (the mama san)? I think developing more of a rapport with her is the way to go and she if she will only set me up with the best. On the other hand, since mgmt. there doesn't seem to encourage extras would she still be that encouraging? Also, the more I think about it the more I'm inclined to start bringing tip to the room it seems that it would be easier to negotiate with cash in front of her face. Further thoughts?

[MrNY]

In my experience, I've gotten great reaction to
matching the door" in rub-n-tug places...

However, if it is a known place, know lady and I know what I am going to be getting - I tip appropriately - if it's a f/s place - the total can come to $160. But, and I will catch a lot of shit for this, if this is a new place and/or a new gal (who is a 8-9-10), I may just hand HER $200 - the logic there is to overcome the one I most despise, the haggling...

I HAT HAGGLING - there is NOTHING worse than negotiating as your boner slowly disapears... $200 is over paying - but, it makes it VERY clear what I'm looking for..

BTW, $200 is NOT for WGS ! I think 75+75 is more than adequate - Anyone else have some thoughts on that ??

Also, do yourself a favor pay attention to mamasan - slip her $20 every now and then... tell'r your name and who you'd appreciate mostly seeing

p.s. angela is latina and i believe she is the shower girl - she was mine...

[hotdoggnyc]

tomatch,
Since you prefer Latina gals over asians ... is there any decent Latin MP out there? Thanx!

HD

[tomatch]

no i don't knwo fo any Latin MP's. Never heard of any that are on par with WGS either. That type of establishment seems to be be monopolized by Asians. I wish there was some Latin flavor in that universe. Anyone else?

[rtala34]

There are Latin women at WGS sometimes and I have seen others througout my travels in NYC but my experience is that the ones who work at MP are usually beasts very few are remotely attractive

[skygoggles4]

There are some latin ladies at Murray Hill Skin Care. I think that the correct name, I forget the address, but that does not matter as it is a place I plan on never going back to.

[robneville]

Originally posted by skygoggles4
There are some latin ladies at Murray Hill Skin Care. I think that the correct name, I forget the address, but that does not matter as it is a place I plan on never going back to.

Why won't you go back?

[hotdoggnyc]

sk,
that's why i ask for the "decent" ones! lol

HD

[donniebnyx]

Last Friday at around 4pm. The place was packed but I only waited in the lounge about 5 min. I saw Mimi last time but took who they gave me. Edna -- Columbian, face & body = 7/7.5. Tipped .6$ in the room.

Great msg and HJ. Roaming on top and bottom. Top - under bra, bottom - outside only.

She glanced at the door window a few times, but not so much to be a distraction.

The kicker is when I paid I was planning to leave a nominal tip that they would split with her, but she comes out and tells them I tipped in the room.

The whole thing for $.35. Life is good.

[robnotbob]

Delrio Massgae in Westchester (2 locations in Yonkers, one in Rye)..advertise in Journal News. Massage/FS place. reviewed here..do a search.

[nixie]

My first post!
After reading the reviews here, I ventured to WGS. First time met with Julie, she gives a very good massage, good for the muscles, somewhat erotic. HR was nothing special. Don't even think she really wanted to do it.
A week later I go there and meet with Tina, great GFE, sweet girl, two cups of delicious coffee.
The only disappointment was the table shower/shampoo. It was pretty weak. Any places in Manhatten that provide good table shower experiences?

Now, how did I do for my first time?

[rtala34]

Of Course I meant the West Garden Spa

When I got a cup in the shower room it was by this pretty banging Latina who does not work there any longer. This girl was so fly that I basically begged her to meet me at a hotel or at my Apt.

She claims she was unable because she was always working

has anyone ever gotten outcall from WGS they claim to offer it but everytime i try I get shut out?

i cannot say enough good things about this placeit is great for what it is. i wish the girls went a little further but i guess that is what keeps them in business

Two cups is usually availible but you must ask.

By the way nixie you did good but what is your beef with the table shower?

[Cheater]

Rtala-
you raise an interesting point- has anyone gotten more from a massage outcall? It would seem that the girl would be more willing to do more for a good tip since there is no "mamasan" watching. I know b/c it has happened to me a couple of times.

I once got a massage outcall from a Japanese place, I think it was Kasa or something like that (it used to advertise in NY Mag but I think its gone now). The girls name was Nanako- she started off trying to do a massage, but apparently she was really horny. I was on my front, I reached around and touched her and before I knew it, clothes were flying, she was giving me a bbbj and then she rode me cowgirl. All for $$ (the fee was $20 plus 80 tip). It was a nice surprise, to say the least. Unfortunately, I didn't call the place for a couple of months and I think they have closed.

The other time I called a place on the E Side that I frequented and Julie came over - I had seen her several times and she ended up giving me bbbjtc. Unfortunately this place is gone too.

Anyone else have similar massage outcall experiences?

[sod]

"Now, how did I do for my first time?"

You pissed someone off with your table shower complaint, but otherwise I suppose you did fine. Then again, don't pay attention to me. I don't participate nearly enough in this hobby to merit all the comments I make on these boards. And I've never been to WGS. Sounds like a nicer, cleaner Jersey AMP. I may be wrong, but w/o FS, there's not much reason for me to cross the Hudson.

[rtala34]

where are the good f/s Massage places in Northern Jersey or Central.

I used to go to this great place that LE broke up a while back a great massage follwed by a great experience I am still looking for another place like that

[rtala34]

Great technique you set up incall a couple of times and then you go out that is a good method.

At WGS mamason has the girls on lockdown if we could get them out of there for an hour I think we would be in luck. I may try a side arrrangement next time i go there.

The Japanese chick sounded like an excellent experience I love the Japanese

[biggod]

ratala34,

Where was the place you talked about that gave you good service in northern NJ I think I know a few but not sure what you are looking for. in terms of extras.

[Bill Furniture]

Good first-time post nixie!

I have only been to one asian place. It was almost 5 years ago around the corner from Moe Ginsburg's store. When the girl offered a table shower, I passed on it because I was worried that someone would rip off my wallet or something. I should have taken it, she came back all wet and I had the towel to dry her off. She gave me a CBJ, then I was on top for awhile. She wanted to give me a HJ to finish me off, but I told her I wanted to do her doggie style. I think it was the first time I ever came while wearing a rubber, other than with a CBJ.

[jaydevice]

One of the girls at WSG made me memorize her phone number once. I thought this might lead to an offsite encounter with extras. Called her about two weeks later. She had had no idea, or pretended to have no idea, who I was. Who knows, there could be a thousand reasons for this. Anyhow... gave me hope for the potential of extras there though there's really no stories floating around to back that hope.

Before anyone asks, sorry, won't post her name, any risk of getting her in trouble/fired is too much of a risk. Especially since nothing came of it.

The moral... I guess if you want extras, you go to a place that is known for them, though it's always fun to hope (and good business to give the customers reasons to hope).

[MrNY]

went at 11:30 - saw julie (got the job done, but i would not recomend her)

a friend came along, had a new girl - elle? he had a fabulous time.......

supposedly, the majority of the girls don't come in until 1:00 - just and FYI

[nixie]

Again the table shower at WGS was nothing special-- if anyone knows of a good table shower experience please let me know.

[nixie]

Well I tried this place out once again and I have decided that it is YMMV. I get there early afternoon so it is quieter than usual, they say Julie will be ready soon, I say no thanks, they weren't happy. Then they say wait 10 minutes for Yuki. Less then 5 minutes later a girl names Soony comes to get me They aren't organized but I figure who cares. I don't bother making apppointments with a specific girl because reviews on this board indicate that they switch the girl on you anyway.
Massage was OK, I was very cold, because they took me downstairs. Great cup of coffee but I wanted to and their was plenty of time, so why didn't I get it? Overall experience was OK. I tipped an OK tip, she wasn't happy.
I have been to this place a few times and I am thinking, that it is too sterile, too clean, too nice. Sometimes you just want to get down and dirty, and this isn't the place for that. If I needed to induct a young guy into the Spa hobby, I would start here. But, I don't know how quickly I will be running back there.
By the way, can I get a congrats on my 100th post?!

[Troutman]

Sure. Congrats, welcome to silver, yadda, yadda.

[jgd]

Congrats Nixie !

[jseah]

Originally posted by Troutman
Sure. Congrats, welcome to silver, yadda, yadda.

Hey, isn't that Bill's job? Welcome to silver.

[ahandshake]

What exactly is involved in a table shower? One of the girls there asked me about it once and I had no idea what it was. When I asked her what it involved, she didn't seem to understand. I thought she was going to get somebody to answer my question, but then both she and the girl who came in ignored me. Oh well.

I made an appointment with Yuki a couple of days ago, and when I finally got into the waiting room near the door, about fifteen or twenty minutes after I arrived since Yuki "wasn't ready yet", I was told I would have to wait a half-hour for her. I was pressed for time at that point so I just decided to go with whomever they gave me.

I got a Korean woman named Sue, who wasn't beautiful but wasn't too bad looking (she looked like she was in her late 20s or *maybe* early 30s). Fairly slim, dressed in the usual outfit.

Unlike Yuki, she didn't ask me what kind of massage I wanted and started off by putting a sheet over me. She then proceeded with a really hard massage which I wasn't comfortable with. I *hated* receiving massages until I tried out a West Garden Spa (the *only* massage parlor I've been to) and got a soft oil massage from Yuki. This was killing me, but I figured it was only a precursor, since Yuki started with a normal massage and then moved into the oil massage.

After about ten minutes or so, I told her I needed something lighter and asked for a soft oil massage. She complied and proceeded with one that was nowhere near as good as Yuki's in technique.

She did touch my nether regions a bit more than Yuki when the massage got down towards my thighs, but it seemed more rigid, more cold... not sure how to better explain it. It didn't feel as "warm"? Shoot... never mind, I'll stop trying. :-)

Anyway, she didn't have any objections when I started roaming once she started the manual part. I was able to roam the bottom over her pants (she didn't object when I rubbed hard between her legs), and I was able to roam under the bra.

I asked if I could suck on "them", meaning her breasts, but she said no as if it was an obvious answer. I'm not sure if she understood me, though, because she might have thought I was asking for her to suck on me, which would have been nice but was not what I was looking for.

After the release, she continued a little bit more with the massage, but I was out of there in about ten minutes afterwards. She let me know her name and then I gave her a decent tip, intended for Yuki.

Not too bad overall, but I would much rather have had Yuki. I'm curious about that whole "switching girls" theory that somebody presented earlier in this thread. I guess I'll find out if that's true the next time I make an appointment with Yuki.

[nixie]

See that's what I am talking about...many MP's or AMP's make you feel like you are being appreciated, they make you feel sexy. I thought WGS spa would be like this but sometimes I feel like I am in a sci-fi movie. We are experiments, and they, in their white wear and their perfect hair make are the doctors of the future. The geniuses of their planet.

By the way, what is the next level? I like silver, but I am just wondering!

[robneville]

I think if you go to WGS looking for an AMP/brothel type experience you'll be disappointed. It's really a spa/massage establishment that happens to offer HR. I go for the reaxing sauna and massage - the HR is a nice bonus. Just go, relax, and allow yourself to be pampered for an hour.

[jseah]

Originally posted by nixie
By the way, what is the next level? I like silver, but I am just wondering!

Gold is the next one at 500 posts.......unless the APM decides to grace you with a custom one.

[JunkMan]

I have been to WGS a dozen or so times and robneville summed it up: go relax and get pampered for an hour. Do not expect anything more than a HR and YMMV depending on the girl you happen to get that day. You should go elsewhere if you are looking for more.

[nixie]

Originally posted by jseah


Gold is the next one at 500 posts.......unless the APM decides to grace you with a custom one.

500 posts?!?!? That's a lot of chicks to see!