How good is a PSE???

[plazaman]

I have been considering booking a professional
XXX star for a session. In general, are these sessions worth all the extra cash?? Or, are they just basic full service sessions with girls who work in the adult industry?? Are there any services/girls someone could reccomend for a super hot session?? Are there any girls/services anyone has been greatly dissapointed in???

[DannyNJ]

I had that same urge a while back, so I arranged a session with Micki Lynn. Although she was very nice, I have to say that it was certainly no better than alot of other experiences that I've had. It was definitely not a GFE, and in fact was more mechanical - along the lines of an adult film. I don't regret the experience, but I wouldn't pay extra to hire someone again just because they're an Adult star.

[One Eyed Trouser Trout]

I'm one of those who needs visual stimulation to go along with physical activity, and the two porners I've been with have been very attractive, very hot looking.

Plus, my penis has a huge ego...it likes to say...Yep..I banged so and so.

But, once engaged in copulatory embrace, it all feels the same.

With both ladies, I had a follow-up session because the first was very gratifying, and in each second session, I was disappointed.

Is it worth twice to three times the regular trade? Not really. Are you impressed that I screwed two porners? Probably not. Was the bliss sustained longer than a non-porner? Yeah, a little but it was mental more than physical.

Is it worth paying the premium to an agency to hook it up? I'd rather take my chances in asking them if they're on a dance gig.

[Phantom]

OETT,

In your experiences what would you say the discount is when you approach a porn star at one of her dance gigs versus seeing her through an agency?

[Ozzy]

phantom......tons of savings.


i saw a lot of porn stars while i was in LA. never went thru an agency because i would never pay over a G an hr when you could get them for a dime a dozen out there. if you get lucky and catch one dancing who's willing to moonlight after her show than thats the ultimate. i saw a very famous porn star (VERY FAMOUS!) while she was doing a dance gig. paid i think $1500 for the night....3am till 10 am. she goes thru an agency (niccisgirls) now for more than that per hour.






as 1eyed's penis would say......Amber Lynn?....."i banged her"

[Phantom]

Anybody catch Jenna Jameson at Franks Chicken Resturant in NJ this past week?

[Ozzy]

i'm supposed to go and bang her since i owe her one ( i turned her down a few years ago) but OETT didn't notify me. he must be keeping it to himself and little one eye.

[Ozzy]

isn't franks in PA? philly area?

[Carl M]

The high percentage of PSE are not GFE, no DFK and covered everything. So if you want to be with a pretty girl nothing more- go for it. I personally feel it is a big waste of money!

[Phantom]

Franks is in Manville, NJ allot closer to NYC then Philly. A couple of minutes off of Route 287 where it goes through Bridgewater NJ.

[Edited by Phantom on 02-11-2001 at 01:22 PM]

[Ozzy]

i think i'm confusing it with another PornStar hangout in the north east PA area.

carl....what are you doning here today?

[DannyNJ]

Phantom,

I went to Franks Chicken House on Thursday to see Jenna. Listen to this wonderful experience...

I arrived at 4:15 to get there early for the 5:15 show (showtimes listed were 5:15, 8:00 and 11:00). When I got there, they were telling people at the door that Jenna's flight was delayed and she was still "in the air". They said they couldn't guarantee what time she'd get there, but that they'd put her onstage as soon as she arrived. Alot of people in line decided against taking the risk and paying the jacked up $25 admission fee. I decided to go for it.

Well I spent the next 3 hours hanging out at Franks, which isn't the greatest way to spend 3 hours. The selection of undercard talent there is mediocre at best (although there was one very hot looking girl named Bridgette). Finally at 7pm - as I was debating leaving - they announced that Jenna was "in the house". I figured that I would stick around a little while longer, not knowing that they would hold her offstage until the 8pm show!! So it was ANOTHER hour of sitting around waiting and now the place was getting PACKED.
Jenna finally came onstage at 8pm and get this - she was onstage for about TEN minutes. That's it. Danced a couple songs, threw a few t-shirts into the audience, and she was gone. All that waiting for TEN minutes of seeing her.

Don't get me wrong - she looked INCREDIBLE... maybe one of the 3 best looking women I've ever seen. But considering she was late getting there, and considering that people had paid $25 to see her (or $35 if you were gullible enough to go for one of the "ringside seats"), she could've given a little more of a show. When I saw Ginger Lynn there a few years back, she stayed onstage for at least 40 minutes and even took the microphone to talk to the audience.

They offered the option of waiting in line to get a polaroid with Jenna (God only knows what they charged for that), but the line was immediately 100 people long and there was no way I was staying in that place for another hour waiting. I decided to just get a quick private dance from that one hot looking girl I mentioned and then I was outta there.

The subject here is banging porn stars, and would I love to bang Jenna?? WITHOUT DOUBT!! But based on what I saw, she would probably charge $5000 for one hour of "No DFK, No DATY, Double covered, get-it-over-with-quick sex".

Stick with unknowns. Lack of attitude counts for ALOT.

[San_Te]

Plazaman you can save money by booking directly but it isn't that easy. The top girls will deny they even escort, but virtually all do. In order to book with alot of these girls you need a strong introduction. If you post who you are looking to see I may be able to give you some insight.

As to Carl M's claim they are not GFE and do everything covered, it couldn't be farther from the truth. Also, nothing shocks these girls and they tend to be very wild. Many will allow you to film or photograph the visit.

As to Jenna, her rate is very high. After hearing her quote, I didn't even try to negotiate. Even if I cut it in half it was still crazy. Also, she has too many tatoos now.

[Phantom]

Thanks DannyNJ, I KNEW there was some eason why I stopped going to places like Frank's to see XXXstars. Your experience just made me remeber what it was, THAT IT SUCKS!

Rather go to places like Stilettos in the Meadowlands.


San_Te,


Any advice on contacting Inari Vachs?

[Ozzy]

great dirty minds do think a like....

i asked about the very same girl a little while back.(Inari Vachs)....she smokes!!!

[San_Te]

I never really looked into hooking up with Inari but I know she books through Nici's. However, Nici is crazy and she will probably quote you a rate starting at 10k. Hell, Nici quoted me $2,500 for 2 hours with Gina Lynn. Gina Lynn is a local stripper who has made a handful of movies. Another example of how crazy her fees are; she would book Kimberly Taylor A/K/A Shauna at $1,800/hr.

I don't think Inari feature dances so you are probably not going to see her at any local clubs. The only way you are going to be able to book directly is if you have seen one of her friends who will give a strong reference.

[rockit]

Danny:
Since you spent what seems to be an eternity at Franks the other night, let me ask you a question about the place. Has anything changed with respect to the lap dances the undercard girls do? First time I went there , the laps were pretty decent (reasonable touching), several months later they instituted a strict 'hands off" policy. It used to be fun to get a few nice laps while waiting for the star to come onstage, but the place can be awfully boring in the "hands off" mode. Its been at almost two years since my last visit there, which BTW Serenity was the star of the week. Should I go back?

[Phantom]

I think I've just about worn out a video I have of her in which she gives this most incredible BJ I have EVER witnessed. I bring that tape along to show my dates just what I mean by that a BJ can NEVER be TOO wet.

[Phantom]

San_Te,

If I remember correctly Inari was the feature at Franks not too long ago. Don't remember exactly when though. Would you have any idea as to who some her friends might be?

[plazaman]

Girls I would be interested in seeing include: Raylene, Nikki Dial, Tia Bella, Anne Malle, Kasorn Swan, Kobe Tai. Has anyone seen any of them?? Also how would I go about contacting them without going through an agency? Also what is a rough idea of the rates they charge directly???

[San_Te]

Raylene is one who I have been trying to see. She is hit or miss depending on how she is getting along with her boyfriend at that point in time. I have a friend who is working on it and hope to see her very soon. Nikki Dial is my all time favorite and I know of nobody who has been able to hook up with her. Tia Bella, I don't have any information on her. Anne Malle is in NYC until tomorrow I believe. She is working for any agency. I don't know what her fee through the agency would be. Kasorn Swan is in NYC at the end of the month and is booking through an agency. In these cases you actually might want to use an agency because when booking direct you usually have to be in the girls town. Kobe Tai recently had a baby and I don't think has returned to escorting. However, she is very expensive.

[DannyNJ]

rockit - in response to your question, lapdances at Franks are strictly HANDS OFF which to me is a waste of money. The girl did a decent job of grinding me, but it was excruciating not to be able to lift my arms from my sides. If you want top quality lapdances, definitely check out Delilahs Den on Rt 35 in South Amboy - very hot girls and awesome lapdances. Alot of guys prefer Go Go Rama which is just down the road in Laurence Harbor, but as anyone who has ever been there will verify - the waiting times for dances are ridiculous and the area where they perform the dances is out in the open for all to watch & gawk at. For the money, Delilahs is far above them.

Back on the subject of porn stars: does anyone remember Dynamite from the Howard Stern show?? She's the porn star who was filming her "21st birthday gang bang" in which she had sex with 21 guys for her birthday. On the show, she gave Howards listeners a chance to participate. The winner ended up being High Pitch Eric.

In case you've never seen her - Dynamite is about 4'11", 95 lbs, tight little body, cute face, red hair. She has a website at http://www.dynamitesplace.com.

I recently spoke to her, and she is definitely available for escorting. But here's the catch: it's $1000 per day (not really bad if you break it down by hour, but still way outta my price range) PLUS her travel expenses from California. She also said that she usually likes to book for at least 2-3 days if she's making a long trip.

I've tried to explain to her that it would be worth her while to come out to Manhattan, get a hotel room, and see guys for hourly visits - but I don't think she's too into the idea just yet. I know I would DEFINITELY book her if she did that. And if she charged $250-$300 per hour, she would make way more than through her $1000/day rate (assuming she sees at least 4-5 guys per day).

If anyone wants to contact her, her email address is dynamitex1@aol.com. Please DON'T say that you heard about her through me as I didn't tell her I was posting this. But maybe if enough guys (via casual conversation) made the suggestion to do an "East Coast Tour", she might be tempted to do it.

[One Eyed Trouser Trout]

I was able to hook up with Teri Weigel during a dance gig at Als Diamond and gave her 600 for a really nice on her knees, me standing BBBJ, DATY, and covered FS in 2 positions....it probably lasted 40 minutes or so.

Saw her again at the Moonlight Ranch in Reno....1K for half the time, no time for FS...rip off.

Now, she's getting 1500 for 30 minutes and 500 for each 15 minute increment thereafter.

I'd like to hook up with Kira Kenner now....she used to be a Cowboy Cheerleader before taking spunk on celluloid Nici's had booked her in the past for 10K....I reckon at that rate, 10K is for a lifetime, huh?

[Phantom]

DannyNJ,

Is that price of $1K/24 hours for Dynamite for real? Did she quote you that price recently?

[Carl M]

Originally posted by Ozzy
i think i'm confusing it with another PornStar hangout in the north east PA area.

carl....what are you doning here today?

If you mean DOING- I snuck onto the computer at home- LOL! LOL! will be in FL Tonight my brother! Got 3 chicks lined up for the tropics! Got my shades, suntan lotion, CD Player and my" River and The Gauntlet" Book ready to go- then I'll mosey on down to the pool and see what Poontang lurks!

[ryan]

Add me to the Inari Vachs fan club. Phantom can I ask which vid you're referring to ? I have quite a few of her vids (mostly the BJ theme ones) and curious to know which scene your talking about. Although they are all amazing - especially the way she'll snap a huge string of drool back into her mouth in a nanosecond (has to be seen to be appreciated). Bobbi Bliss is another drool queen with extra depth as well.

5 points for anyone who knows what nationality Inari is.
10 points if you know what her first name means.

[Ozzy]

gangbang girl 23.

inari has done that extreme vacation thing...where guys go to costa rica? and watch and then bang porn chicks during filming of movies.

[Phantom]

The Blowjob Adventures of Dr. Fellatio #7.

Ryan, feel free to recommend any other noteworthy Inari Vachs videos.

[Phantom]

Several other very good scenes on that video. I find it to be a very good teaching aid. That reminds me I have to call my top student here in NJ to make a date to have her brush up on her skills. God I love to have her practice ON ME!

[ryan]

Phantom - I pulled that vid from my collection to refresh my memory. Have to admit, I have seen about a dozen Inari Vachs blowjob scenes and the one you mention is THE sloppiest ever. Holy cow !! Sorry, I can't come up with anything from Inari to beat it. Plus it's a long scene with background music - so for showing to ladies I think its a great pick.

A best Inari runner up for drool would be the first scene of Shut Up & Blow Me #8. She also talks about her technique before the video starts - pretty cool. Other good Inari oral scenes in Shut Up & Blow Me #2, Blowjob Fantasies #1 (check out Inari on the boxcover) and Seymore Butt's Blow Me.

For scenes to show ladies, one of my top picks would be Bridgett Kerkove in Blowjob Fantasies #9 - long scene, very wet, deep and mostly no-hands with background music.

These BJ-theme videos started coming out around 1997, I think one of the first was a title called "Whiplash". It's amazing the adult film industry took so long to think of the concept. I got hooked on these vids from the start. I'd estimate there are probably about 10 different series, average 15 vids per series, and average 15 scenes per vid. That's like over 2200 pure BJ scenes ! I wish I was Gusher Mike - he's probably had 10% of them. I agree there are at least a few very good scenes on most of these videos that could be used as teaching aids. Would love to chat on these vids but haven't been able to find a good porn discussion board.

[Ozzy]

Bridgett Kerkove is one filthy little girl.

saw some movie or part of a movie where she's in a saloon with a bunch of cowboys(about a dozen). she ends up doing something that you very very rarely see in movies.......

bbgreek tc......... from every one of those cowboys.