Review Melany

[Cobra]

Visited ODA last Friday, asked for Nina but she not available so I was very pleasantly surprised with Melany, WOW, 10+, about 22, Russian (of course) great BODY. My first time here, not rushed, used wet table, VERY nice. Melany wore her birthday suit and with HR was $100 but worth it. Long Blonde, very good time, will be back! Thanks Tonka!!

[DandyDon]

Cobra, Did she allow any touching?? Was there any DATY allowed??

[rmj17]

What/where is ODA? Can't search because of 4 letter minimum. Thanks.

[Cobra]

Its located 41 Elm St. Suite 1 Q, first floor, phone 973-539-4445 Good luck and enjoy!!! With regards to touching, yes, DATY not first time, (my first there) but believe very possible once we get to know each other.

[DandyDon]

Cobra, Thanks for the info. I'm sure this is gonna be a favorite place for the UG guys to try out!!

Tonka, Looks like you scored a direct hit!!! Thanks again.

[sammyfantastic]

Cobra,

Can you share more stats of Melany? Estimates would be fine. Also, what is HR? I'm a newbie and can't find it on the board. Thx!

[Midnight Rider]

HR= Hand Release

Cobra: If you don't mind, what town would that be in?

[ryan]

MR - this spa was initially discussed in a thread on the NJ/NY/CT board entitled, "New MP Russian in Morristown"

It definately sounds worth a visit.

For those closer to NYC, I have seen some very good talent working at The Days (in Paramus) lately.... will post reviews.

[Midnight Rider]

thank you :)

[sammyfantastic]

MR, thanks for the answer!

I saw people mentioning table shower/shower table about ODA. Excuse my ignorance, but what is that? Shower for two? Thanks!

[DandyDon]

Sammyfantastic, A table Shower is exactly that--
At some of the newer/better MPs,when you first go into your room, you strip down and put on a robe. The provider(usually, could be another girl) takes you to another room that's like a large shower with a table inside. You take off the robe, get on the table and she will give you a shower. This serves a few purposes. One is she makes sure you're clean--both physically and legally(not LE). Two is that you both get to relax a little and get used to each other. After the TS, you will usually do a couple of minutes in the sauna. Then she will take you back to the room for your massage

I hope this answered your question.

[Cobra]

Midnight Rider - Morristown!, easy to get to off 287.

Sammyfantastic = Melany is a 10+ in looks and attitude, approx. 22 to 24 yrs old, Russsian, english OK, 5'8", long blonde hair, slim, C- cup (Big), touching OK & HR. Price now $60, holiday specials finished. Also they now have HOT ROCKs, great all by themselves, believe they will charge $80 for hot rocks and massage in future but I got a demo for my $60. Also DandyDon was right on with regards table shower, seperate room also very upscale. They have a regular shower if you like for finish. Been there 3 times, saving my pennies for 4th. Have a great weekend.

[sammyfantastic]

Thanks so much, DandyDon and Cobra! Your answers really help.

So I guess no real action in the TS other than getting acquainted, etc. Is massage and HR all you can get from this place, or is FS also offered (of course with a higher donation)? Or it depends on the girl and her mood, etc.? I've never been to any MPs so I'm kinda worried if asking for FS will get me a weird look or being laughed at. And what's Hot Rocks? Sauna? I know I'm hopeless.

This place sounds really intriguing. I may check it out this weekend. If so, I'll definitely let the team know.

[totalrecallin]

Sammy-

Hot rocks are exactly that, "hot rocks". The massuesse will use heated smooth rocks to massage you. Really a relaxing experience. The legit place I go calls it "La Stone"

This is actually the first time I've heard of a place that even offers HR doing this. May really be worth the visit.

[sammyfantastic]

Thanks, total recall!

I didn't know in these places massage is as serious a business as the extracurricular activities. :-) The Hot Rock thing sounds cool!

This NJ board is so much better than the NY/NJ/CT Spa one. I posted similar questions there and got no answers. Here, I can't believe how fast they get answered. Thanks, fellow NJ hobbyists!

[ryan]

Sammy - never been to a MP huh ? Well give it a shot and let us know how it goes. A spa visit with a nice girl is a wonderful thing. Don't be overly concerned with your mileage right away.... it is highly variable and at some places they have to get to know you first. If you come across as overly anxious or a newbie with a lot of expectations, the girls might be a little more cautious / reserved. So just be natural, enjoy and see what happens. Personally I've never been into this whole FS thing myself. There are plenty of other things to enjoy in a spa session...

one other thing: some places may ask you to sign in, don't sign your real name obviously, don't give your phone number or other personal info, and don't park right in front of a spa. I would recommend to read up on some of the busts that have occured, including a rather unpleasant one in the same town as ODA. The biggest thing "A New U" did wrong was to attract attention to themselves (their building) from the community. Never patronize places like this. It sounds like ODA is more discrete.

Anyways, maybe your familiar with all this but I share it just in case - its an unpleasant fact of life with the spa scene, 99% of the time one has nothing to worry about, but imo it's always a good idea to be informed.

[totalrecallin]

Sammy,
No problem. If you ever want to get just the hot rocks without the extras, I'll give you the info on a great place in Central NJ. It's expensive, but you leave with your body like mush.

[sammyfantastic]

Total, let me first get some experience with the MPs before upgrading to the fancy stuff. Ryan, thanks for the advice! I'll just go with the flow first and see where it leads. Actually, I'm kinda in need of a good massage. So I'll take whatever comes my way.

Now you got me all tense with the LE scene...... :-)

[sammyfantastic]

As planned, I went to ODA today. I had called earlier to make an appointment and asked to be hooked up with either Melany or Nina according to you guys’ recommendations here. But was told neither would be available today. Still, I decided to go just to check out the MP scene, which I’ve never been before.

Arrived at the place on time and, as Ryan suggested, parked a little away from the front door and looked around for any possible signs of trouble. Everything looked cool, so I went in. A dark-haired woman let me in and asked me to sign in and assign myself a customer number for future references. As advised here, I just said I wanted a massage and it was my first time there. She collected the hourly fee and said she would be the one doing the massage.

I had thought that she was Olga who answered phones and set appointments. Well, she sounded like Olga who I had talked to over the phone. I was surprised because I remembered reading that Olga doesn’t “work”. I asked who she was and she said Justine. I kinda doubted her, but being a total newbie, I didn’t want to start on the wrong foot. I started looking at her more closely. She’s about 5’3 to 5’5, dark-haired, grayish eyes, slim, about 35 y.o., and looks about 7. Since she was kinda older than I would like, I asked if I could see some other girls to choose one. She told me that was impossible since the only other girl working there today was already in session. I was somewhat reluctant, but I didn’t want to leave after driving 35 miles just to spend another hour on the road back. Besides, I really wanted to check the MPs out just for my own info. So I gave her the go and plucked down the fee.

She took me to a room with a massage table and a little cart with all the lotions and oils on it, told me to get ready and left. I got into my B-day suit and put on a PJ that was hanging on the wall. I started to look around while waiting for her to come back. The room was clean and cozy, very warm and quite private. A clock on the wall told me the time and it was about 10 past the hour.

She came back in the original clothes I first saw her in and told me to take off the PJ and lie down on the table. She started to massage my back and was quite good at it although a little on the lighter side to my taste. We chitchatted a little and I started to ask her about other service options. She asked me in return what kind of services I was looking for. (Later she told me she was worrying I was LE and had to be cautious.) I mentioned TS, Hot Rock and HR, etc. She told the TS was under renovation and tried to convince me it was really nothing special. I kinda wanted to experience it, but had to accept the reality.

Then, she said the HR and others would require a tip. I asked how much and she said $80 topless, $100 fully nude, and $120 with touch. I had no idea what the going rates should be, but felt it was kinda high. But I was not sure whether I should bargain with her lest she’d think I’m a PL and ruin an otherwise enjoyable experience. So I agreed to go with the top choice. I did ask for CBJ and FS but was told she doesn’t offer them. I said I heard they were provided there, but she told me maybe some other girls who wanted to make a few more bucks. I was kinda miffed but thought a good HR could be a nice substitute.

She undressed down to small leotard panties and started the work after I turned over to face up. I asked her why she left her panties on and was told she was on her period. (Yuck!) I said that was not fully nude but she said topless would be with her spandex on. I didn’t want to argue any more because if she were really on the tampon, I probably wouldn’t like what I would see any way.

Her massage skills were really nice and made me very relaxed and comfy. Then she got on the table and started the HR work. I started to roam my hands around her uncovered body. Her bust was like a B but in pretty good form. Skin was soft and smooth. She did a great job and I came just when I wanted to.

She cleaned me up and asked if I would like to try the hot rock massage. I was worried if that was gonna cost extra on top of the already seemingly high tip, but she told me not to worry and since I was such a nice guy she’d just do it for me. She told me to lie back on my stomach and went out to get the stones. I really liked the feeling of hot smooth stones strolling on my back and it went quite well.

By then she was asking me whether I liked the experience and if I planned to have future visits. Of course I didn’t say no and knew it was time for me to dress up. When I was done, I looked at the clock and it was right on the hour. That meant I had been serviced 50 minutes out of an hour. I figured that was close enough and there would be not much more to be further explored. So I paid her the agreed amount and a little extra, and got out of the room with her. She thanked me and asked me to come again and I was on my way home.

Overall, I enjoyed the experience and would probably try more. I know with MPs YMMV a lot, but having no prior experience to draw from, I wonder where my “MPG” would fall on the normal scale. Maybe I’m asking too much, but I felt the hourly fee plus tip could have gotten me an hour of FS at some escort joints. Today’s experience is definitely enjoyable but it’s kinda not on par with FS physically. Maybe I’m comparing apples with oranges because I don’t get as nice a massage with escorts. Hope you veterans out there could supply some candid pointers. Thanks in advance and my apology if the review is too long!

[Thorn]

Congrats on your first MP experience Sammy.

It is the standard issue newbie experience you were given and it will only improve with time.

It is important, I find, to be warm, engaging, but politely firm when dealing with providers in MP's.

Fully nude means fully nude. Don't pay for FN if the provider remains in a thong or panties. If she says that that topless would mean the spandex pants go back on, say that would be fine.

An hour is an hour is an hour. Make notes of who gives you less then an hours service.

Tipping is fine, when you have had a really wonderful experience, but when you got less then what you were promised [and you received slightly less then what you were promised], don't tip.

Providers who are rewarded by clients unfamilar with what service ought to be like simply become more bold about providing less service.

Informed clients, who make fair and reasonalbe demands for the dollar paid, allow providers who do just that [provide] to raise to the top of the earners pool. Those who don't sink to the bottom, learn to do it better, or retire from the profession due to limited income potential.

An educated john is a good providers best customer. [sorry Mr Syms, I just had to steal that line :) ]

[sammyfantastic]

As I'm a total newbie to this, I expected to make some silly mistakes. But overall, I think I did OK for a first timer and gained some valuable experience. I'm sure it will improve over time.

[theladiesman]

excellent review, Sammy, and nice follow-up by thorn!

[Bill Furniture]

Sammy, that was a fantastic review! Too bad you didn't get a girl for FS, but at least you got to experience the Hot Rocks and a real massage.

[totalrecallin]

Nice review, Sammy. I may make that long drive myself on your reccomendation.

[Cobra]

Sammyfantastic: Read your review, great for first time, should have told you Olga works Mon to Fri, she's a knock out & I've tried three times, but she just works the phones but she runs a happy ship, so I recommend going week days, weekend girls double at phones and work. Next time call ahead and ask for Nina, you will enjoy FS with her, trust me. She is a little older but still looks great and is very willing to please, also nude is nude, listen to Thorn, if your not happy don't tip extra. Have been here now three times 1 HR and 2 FS, but like Thorn said take your time, enjoy. (3rd time Tanya, pretty, 5', very nice attitude, 7+ face but a little over weight but had a really good time) Hang in there!!

[sammyfantastic]

Cobra, the additional info is very useful. I'll make sure to use it in my plan for the next trip. When I was making the appointment yesterday, I was told neither Nina nor Melany was available. I tried to find out who were, but the girl answering the phone wouldn't tell me, saying she didn't think it would make sense for me to know. I knew she was being cautious, but I couldn't find any better argument since I had told her I was totally new there.

[Cobra]

Sammyfantastic> I plan a visit today, will attempt to get additional name for a better time for you. Will see of Olga is the receptionist again. Will let you know how do!

[ryan]

Congrats on your first MP visit sammy! I agree you certainly did OK. Nice to read the newbie experiences. My first time was also at a russian place. Beautiful slim young blonde girl named Lisa. I was so anxious about it I couldn't finish......LOL. But we joked about it and she told me to have a beer next time to relax. Things have improved since then (and without the help of alcohol!).

Back to your review..... for massage time, in my experience the norm is to get at most 50 minutes massage for a 1 hr session. No place massages you for the full 60. They allow time for undress / dress before and after. If you got 50 that's about right.

But Thorn's other comments are right on. Your hunch was right - those rates were expensive and you definately overpaid. If that is standard pricing at ODA I won't be going. If it isn't, then the lady likely took advantage of you knowing you were a newbie and she could probably get away with it. I have been to about a dozen places in C/NNJ and the prices are fairly standard: 60 topless, 100 nude. Both should include HR and touching. AMPs are sometimes a little less. Also some places have a "g-string" option for 80. That's with just her panties on. So it sounds like you overpaid by 40 (!) since you paid 120 when she provided what you could get at most places for 80. Also although she provided a good session I don't think the tip was warranted at all. These girls are making very good money. Tipping (imo) should be reserved for very special cases, like your favorite girl who gives you a total spa-GFE session, or a Veronika Zemanova lookalike who lets you TF with multiple cups. (heh)

With research and time you will do both better and worse, but most likely better certainly in terms of $value. But I'm glad to hear it went well your first time out.

Ryan

[blacklash]

Alright - one question to all of you....how on Earth can anyone still take chances on going to MPs anymore? So many busts, so much potential trouble. I mean just thinking about it scares the crap out of me - getting caught would ruin me (and I guess most people). Anyway, thinking of the $160 spent by sammy, I would just take out another $90 and get something more private. But that's me..

[sammyfantastic]

Ryan, the time issue I tend to agree with you that no one should expect a full 60 minute session. But I would have no complaints if it were closer to 55. She did go out a couple of times but I didn't time her. It's a little hard to do when facing down. :-)

Thanks for the pricing info! But my question is, now that I know the price range a little better, should I bargain if I feel the quote were too high? How hard can I push? I don't want to piss the girl off and ruin the experience. She may agree to a lower price but could easily make it back by not giving all she is capable of. It seems like a lose-lose situation if one is unfortunately enough to fall into such a situation. And TF=Russian? My ignorance is showing again. :-)

Cobra, did you get to go today? Hope you had a nice session!

[ryan]

yes about the TF. Just say you only brought X$ (corresponding to what type of session you wanted - topless / g-string / nude) because that's what you paid last time or at some other place, and give a look like there's nothing you can do about it. Hard bargaining is not a good idea. To BL... its not against the law to run a massage facility or to visit one. Most of these places are properly zoned and licensed. To be on the straight and narrow don't discuss pay for play. Most of the time that shouldn't occur anyway. But, yes there is always still some risk in the hobby. It helps a little to avoid the three C's -- conspicuous / commercial / complaints. I guess we all have our own comfort zones and make our own decisions. That's all.

[Cobra]

With all this talk of pricing I ran out cash!! Kidding, no I couldn't find the time this week, plan to go next week. A friend of mine did go today and I'll get the information from him and pass on. Heard there is another Russian place in Morristown, on Washington St.
called ABBAA or soemthing like that. Anyone have any news to report on this location?

[WhoAmi]

and I was glad I did. This is a 1st rate MP.

Saw Mara (I think) and she had a very tight body. Godd massage lots of teasing ang roaming.

O beleive more can be had, and I will let you know.

[sammyfantastic]

Will let us know? When? How about now? Too happy to even remember the girl's name, huh? Or even your own name! Good for you! Please recover quickly and spill your beans here, man!

[Cobra]

My 4th visit and they just get better, WHOAMI, nice handle! Her name is NORA not Mara, and she was GREAT. HR only but anything goes with hands, maybe more when she gets to know me, us, better! Need a part time job to keep up with cost!! (HAHA) Hope Santa is good to us all> PS Heward they might have gotten OMAR today, Hope so. God Bless USA

[WhoAmi]

Well I stopped by ODA again last evening. While Nora was there and available, there was a very cute, small chested and dark haired woman, whose very tight ass caught my eye as I walked in. When Olga asked if I wanted Nora or a choice, I asked for the line up.

One by one (and there were only two there) the ladies appeared and I invited Amanda to join me.

Table Shower and GREAT massage skills, though I was starting to be sceptical about any extras and was really getting bummed.

After the flip, the question was what do you want. She wanted $ for nude and I had to see it. WOW. Sliky skin, great breasts (A-B) tight body. Allowed full roaming and sucking while she slowly applied a HR.

Not cheap for a HR but what a body!

YMMV, and have fun.

[njswede]

visited ODA in Morristown last night...met with Ashely, 28 year old, overall 8, nice huge nips....okay table shower, great massage, great HR with lots of touching for $. was really looking for fs..does anyone know if this place offers it or another Russian MP...love the russian girls

[Cobra]

Answer to njswede yes on FS ask for Nina.

To all Utopia Guide members, I have spoken to my friend at ODA - Morristown and they will offer 10% discount to all U.G. members on the door fee. All you have to do is mention "Cobra - U.G." to the manager for the discount. They want our business and your comments.

[nj_buck]

Let me know when they start offering CBJ, otherwise the $60 door and $100 tip comes to $160 and for $40 more I can get 2 pops at an incall joint. I mean unless the theraputic massage is really good, I dont see the point.

Later

[sammyfantastic]

Originally posted by Cobra
To all Utopia Guide members, I have spoken to my friend at ODA - Morristown and they will offer 10% discount to all U.G. members on the door fee. All you have to do is mention "Cobra - U.G." to the manager for the discount. They want our business and your comments.

10% discount? How much is that? $5 or so? Big deal!

[Bill Furniture]

Originally posted by sammyfantastic
10% discount? How much is that? $5 or so? Big deal!

Maybe they should offer $50 off.

[sammyfantastic]

What about a tip of $5? That's a tip, isn't it?

[Escort_King]

Originally posted by sammyfantastic
What about a tip of $5? That's a tip, isn't it?

lol... maybe if you just had a drink at a bar....

[WhoAmi]

That might work