Review: Jessica of SatinLaceLadies

[thrasherp]

I am not really a good salesman. I have tried selling a few different products a couple of times, but each time I concluded that I was not good at closing, I didn't enjoy the work, and I really should find some other way to make a living.

So it is with Jessica of SatinLaceLadies.

I called and reserved an appointment, the special rate was $1.5 for the hour. I arrived at the location, which is in a very residential area of J. City. It was so residential that I was uncomfortable ringing the bell. People were hanging out all over the street. Even the location was a two-family residence, complete with children hanging around.

I was led to a large room with a king bed. Jessica walked in. She is heavier than her pics on the site would suggest, but I can live with that. She is a big girl, about 5'8", ~180 lbs. Large breasts, big ass, thick thighs, fat neck. She wore a sexy red teddy, but under it she wore a very out-of-style bikini that did not flatter her. Another big turn-off was the little white ankle socks she wore. Ladies - barefoot, heels, or mules, please!

The other issue was hygene. She did not shave her armpits, and she had obviously been to the bathroom recently. She did not clean herself well, and the odor was really a problem, as I would find out later.

I took care of the biz, and got comfy. Once on the bed, she gently carressed me, but she would not approach certain areas while I roamed freely. She did nothing with her lips/mouth at all. Finally, I said, "don't be afraid, you can touch it." Which she did, and Mr. Happy started to show some signs of life. After a while, in which she progressed the session no further, I suggested we move on to some Billy Joel numbers. She first said to get covered, which I did, but then said, "I really don't do that." I don't like to feel like I am coercing a lady, so I backed off. I then went for some Frank Sinatra, but between the smell and her coy attitude, Mr. Happy just went to sleep. I tried a few different angles, even doggie (that's when I saw a little piece of TP stuck to the browneye - YUCK!). Nothing worked, so I suggested we converse in Russian. She laid down and actually covered her face with a pillow so she wouldn't have to look at me (I am no Brad Pitt, but she sure ain't no Halle Berry, either). And, she insisted that even this activity be covered so that she would avoid getting anything on her face! Well, when I visit a provider, I want what I don't get at home, a lady who is aggressive and at least fakes being into it and liking me. Jessica could not do any of that. She obviously hates her work, and doesn't fake it, either.

After a few minutes, I just gave up; it was a total turn-off. She was apologetic, and asked me not to write a bad review. I should have said a refund would keep me quiet, but I didn't think of it. Instead, I said I would mention only that Billy Joel was not on the menu, and that this kind of thing should be on the site, even if she comes in at the lower end of the pricing scale. It's a major issue for most hobbyists.

I was going to keep quiet about the rest, but I really felt that would not have been fair to my fellow UGers, who have given me so much info over the years. So, be warned about this one. Frankly, any location that would keep someone like Jessica on staff is not worth another try for me. My money is too hard to come by to blow it like this.

I hope Jessica finds another line of work to support herself. She seems like a nice (as opposed to "good") girl.

[its_mousey]

Bad as thrasherp's review, it gets worse when you actually view satinladies' website and what they purport to deliver w/Jessica: 135 lbs. (actually at least 180 lbs.) and "true GFE"(in reality she makes you feel how much she disdain's her job)?!?!?!?!?!? Apparently, it couldn't be farther from the truth.

Un-f@cking-believable.

Thank you very much for you candid review. You've saved us a lot of $$ and aggravation!

*squeak!*

[Thorn]

Just try taking a gander at "Amber". While Jessica's shots are deceiving there is no hiding Amber's girth. She is advertised at 135 and it is obvious from her pictures that she tilts the scales at over 200lbs.

Rather then hiding it the rather obvious placement of the comfortor on the bed just screams "I'm hiding her belly"!

Now, for you BBW providers out there, I am not getting on the "weight thing". Hell, I'm no one to talk. I am just saying that if you are going to post stats on a webpage don't insult the reader, and potential customer, by lying to them. Its not going to go over well.

This place is just far enough away, yet just close enough, to have been a practical outlet for some of my sexual entertainment dollars, but that website and Therasherp's review has made sure that, barring major changes, they won't see any of it.

[REVIEWERONE]

i saw star from satin lace ladies, she was also a little heavier than her pics, but pretty. and the weight wasnt a problem with me. she wasnt gfe, in that bbbj nor daty was offered. otherwise she was enthusiastic, did like to kiss, with tongue. and was very nice.

[sammyfantastic]

I can't stand providers who hate their job but drool over the easy big bucks. If you can't take the work, don't take the dollar! And she's got the nerve to ask for not being mentioned unfavorably?! Then suck it up and provide some decent service! I've had similar experiences with other girls and wanted to shoot them if I could.

Thanks, Thrash! You did the right thing and we all appreciate your sharing the info. I was thinking about trying them out, but after seeing your review, my Bennies are going to someone else!

[neilz]

In her pictures she doesn't smile. She looks like she doesn't want to be where she is. That is a pre-warning.

[jseah]

Looking at the pictures on their site, it looks like Maria used to work for NJ ****** under the name Lexi. From the comments about the other girls in this agency, Maria will probably be the superstar. Short, nicely proportioned......great set of natural tits. Had a fabulous, albeit too short, time with her at the one ****** party I went to. Last I heard, she retired from the ****** because she was going to start a family.

[its_mousey]

...just saw on CL that they realized that someone posted a bad review on Jessica on UG and that: 1) she was fired, and 2) the reviewer is being offered a "free 2hr" booking as a way of saying sorry.

Hmmm, dunno about the quality of their girls and the accuracy of their representations on their site, but it seems their customer feed back service is attentive.

So....Thrash, whaddya' think?

*squeak?*

[REVIEWERONE]

where did you see that on craigs list. i couldnt find it

[sammyfantastic]

http://newyork.craigslist.org/jsy/ers/36179087.html

Thrash, let us know how it goes if you take their corrective offer!

[REVIEWERONE]

THANKS i was looking unde w4m not w4mm.

[its_mousey]

Yeah let us know if you're gonna take up their offer, if not, maybe one of us poor schmucks can take advantage pf tjos 'remedial' review offer. After all, it would be such a shame to waste to have it unused, right? :)

[gman8888]

I wouldn't meet another of their girls - you may be walking into a setup.

[<Lacy>]

Hello all,

First I would like to say that I am glad that I am able to post again. I wasn't to sure about posting but a little birdie has informed that my presence on here might be worth something considering that this is my agency and Jessica was my girl.

I will say it on here like I said it on craig's list that Falon and I apologize deeply for Jessica's behavior. Falon and I are always on top of the girls expecially when it comes time for apperance considering the fact that we know that ugly things can happen if you are not careful, such as a HORRIBLE review. Falon and I's blood pressure shot through the roof when we read this review.

Our first review for our agency was on this board about Maria a past provider and Trinity a current provider. They were glowing reviews. I am saying this to show that we are not all that bad and are very much capable of delivering good service.

We were caught up that week because Falon had just delivered her baby and we were not paying attention to the girls the way we usually do nor were we aware that Amber did not have BBW next to her name. I am not making an excuse but we are just plainly asking for everyone to bare with us.

As for the man who saw Jessica we are so sorry and would like to ask you once again to please take us up on our offer.

Thanks,

Lacey & Falon

[Slinky Bender]

Originally posted by <Lacy>
Falon and I are always on top of the girls

Got any pics?

[Slinky Bender]

Since everyone knows how much I like to repeat myself........

There has never been any business in the history of this planet that didn't fuck something up with one of it's clients (I think my first arguemtn with anyone on a PMB was with a "famous webscort" who claimed she never had a bad session). The difference between most buinesses is what they do afterwards. I think this was proven by both Julie and April on this very board (back before they each decided I was Satan). I guess we need Ozzy here to get the over under line on the length of time for the cycle "UG is great, slinky is great" to "UG is a cesspool populated by lowlife scum and slinky is a mean, nasty troll", and then njphotog can put up a betting pool on it.

[travlnman]

thrasherp, why in god's name did you stay? I would have run for the hills!!!

"and she had obviously been to the bathroom recently"!!!!!!

Was it the roll of Charmin stickin' out of her can that tipped you off?

Yuck!!!

[thrasherp]

I felt bad, and still do, about posting the Jessica review. I am basically a nice guy (which is why I didn't bolt as soon as things went south; I didn't want to hurt Jessica's feelings). I just felt I had to post my experience. Money is hard to come by and I hate to waste what little I can set aside for this hobby.

To Lacy: Especially since Jessica was new, I understand you may have slipped up when hiring her. Your reply seems genuine and sincere, and I may take you up on your offer. If I don't, it is because of logistical reasons only. In truth, I was hoping that others would respond to my review by posting positive reviews of some of SatinLaceLadies other girls, which I would use a guide if I tried out this location again. In any case, if SatinLaceLadies comes up again, my input will be that you do indeed care about customer satisfaction, and sought to rectify a bad experience I had. Most likely a one-off.

I apologize for the trouble my review might have caused you, but again, I felt that I owed it to my fellow UGers to relate my experience with Jessica. I feel bad when anybody loses their job. Goodness knows, I've been on the wrong end of that shit a few times myself. But, like I said, Jessica really needs to find a new line of work. Perhaps this will nudge her in that direction.

By the way, in many locations I have visited over the years, the madam of the place ushered me to the door on my way out, and asked me if I was pleased with the service and the companion, especially if I am a new customer or if the girl is new. Had the owner done this last Thursday, I probably would have been honest about everything. If she had then made an offer similar to the offer above, I would have probably just restricted my review of Jessica to: "Decent service, but avoid Jessica." Saving everybody a lot of trouble.

[<Lacy>]

There is no need to apologize about posting your review. We appriciate the buisness we get being a new agency out there. As far as other reviews you can do a search and you will find Two glowing reviews about Maria and Trinity here on UG. There are no hard feelings and once again I apologize and respect your decision to write the review about Jessica.

xoxox
Lacey

[<Lacy>]

P.S. If your decision is not to take us up on your offer please at least make arrangments with me and except a refund of your 1.5 dollars.

xoxo
Lacey

[rob load]

Called Satinlace and set up appointment same day .This was my first time using this agency.Always used ****** in the past but wanted to try another one . Went to the Edison location and went up to he room.Met Jessica and Fallon there. Fallon took my donation then left us alone.jessica was sitting on the bed with a towel over her (hair up). she told me i was only her second client and to my disappointment it showed. She is probally a nice girl but in the wrong business. Very quiet,nervous. i had to be pro-active with everything......no bj..... we were in bed and she was rubbing me and i said i wanted to have s*x and she made me get up to get the cover and put it on too! anyway by then i was going south... no offer of anything to help me along.....didn't finish.....poor session.........i would probally use this agency again but not jessica.......

[<Lacy>]

Okay I see where this is going. So how about this ANYBODY THAT HAS SEEN JESSICA AND HAD A POOR EXPERIENCE CAN HAVE A FREE BOOKING!!!!!!!!!!!! Okay now I am done.

xoxox
Lacey

[Slinky Bender]

I saw Jessica before she worked for Satinlace and I had a poor experience........

[MexicanaMami]

Wow..some pretty heavy stuff here, but..in all honesty, this is exactly the place to post it. Its totally normal for the reviewer to have second thoughts about posting said review, but, thats perfectly normal. He was totally upfront and honest about it, and Lacy did the right thing by coming forward as she did to defend herself and her agency. Chalk it up as one of lifes experiences no one really wants to have to deal with.

As far as dishonesty, or whatever you want to call it, when it comes to providers profiles, thats just downright dishonest. OK..if a gal gains a few pounds, and doesnt post newer pix, thats one thing, but....Then again, Lacy did the right thing.

You Go Girl!!


Besos y Brazos!!
MexicanaMami

[Slinky Bender]

Great first post (I was actually going to post pretty much the same thing earlier... i.e. that's really how this board should work, but then though it might come off as too self congratulatory (I guess like I just did..... oops)).

PS Isn't it funny that in English it's always "Hugs and Kisses"?

[<Lacy>]

Thank you MexianMiami for your kind words! So I guess I will be getting a form submission from you Mr. Slinky?? LOL

[sammyfantastic]

I'm glad to see that there's still agencies that care about getting things right. It's sad that Thrash had such a lousy experience, but all in all I appreciate an outfit that sincerely corrects its mess-ups. However, I'd appreciate even more if such remedies are not needed in the first place. But we all make mistakes. C'est la vie!

Rod, you could've posted your review earlier and the credits (ours and Lacy's) might be going to you! Better be quicker sharing info on UG next time! :-)

Since Jessica seems not fit for this line of work, letting her go can only help her in the long run. Nobody should feel bad about this. I hope I'm witnessing the making of another top-notch NJ agency!

[its_mousey]

As some have pointed out, bad service is almost unavoidable but what counts is what is done to remedy the problem.

In the case of daydreams of NJ, UG and CL are replete w/multiple negative reviews of bad service and no shows. How did they respond? Either by ignoring said reviews or posting combative responses on CL.

This is truly in stark contrast to how Satinlaceladies have responded to just 1 (one) negative review.

I dunno if their girls will be able to deliver the promised goods but at least their customer service is very commendable.

Kinda makes you wish that Sears and DMV operated like that.

*SQUEAK!*

[MexicanaMami]

Thanks for the kudos on my first post! It was just a subject I felt compelled to reply to. Thats what this forum is all about, right?!

I look forward to adding my 2 cents here and there, as well as reading more and educating myself! Personally, I realize it must be tough (awkward, maybe?) for gals to see their OWN negative experiences in print...hey,...Jessica was involved in this whole episode too, and no one has been privvy to HER slant on it, right? LOL..Then again, shes likely just as glad to have it be chalked up to a session best not remembered! Cant say as Ive ever been there myself...most I have seen have been lurkers and not posters. Well, like they say...theres 3 sides to every story...his side, her side and then the truth...take THAT with a grain of salt!!

Ya gotta admit tho, that must have been a pretty bizarre session according to the poster (forgot his name...sorry guy!!, nothing intentional!) If you think about it, if ALL he posted is true, very well could be it was somewhat Intentional on her part? Hmmmm...personally, each and every session with me starts with me still damp from the shower I just got out of! LOL...I think my Greatest fear is NOT being Squeaky Clean...but, thats another can of worms...there are some horror stories about clients who likely hadnt bathed within the last 48 hrs of a session, or at LEAST need some Hygiene Help!! You gals know exactly what I mean!

Hasta Luego...
Besos y Brazos!!
MexicanMami

[jseah]

Originally posted by slinkybender
(back before they each decided I was Satan)

do you think it was the horns and pointed tail that tipped them off?

[jseah]

Originally posted by <Lacy>
Our first review for our agency was on this board about Maria a past provider

Lacey, if Maria who is currently on your website is the one who I think it is, and she is working, I will definitely be in touch.

[Slinky Bender]

Originally posted by fuego
i have a while back i had jessica but i don't understand why are you compliant about. she was the best girl i had. she came to me and she smell good and she perform great.

In the words of the Soup Nazi:

"No free session for you!!!!!!"

[Slinky Bender]

Originally posted by MexicanaMami
Personally, I realize it must be tough (awkward, maybe?) for gals to see their OWN negative experiences in print...hey,...Jessica was involved in this whole episode too, and no one has been privvy to HER slant on it, right?

When this site first started, I noted that it's a lot easier for agency owners to have discussions about bad sessions, etc. with clients than it is for independants to have the same types of discussions. I'll leave it up to the reader to discern the blazing proof of that, which occured right here on this board (it's ok if someone else wants to point it out).

[neilz]

Jessica Fired?
Her pictures are still on the web site. I doubt she is fired.

[MexicanaMami]

Originally posted by slinkybender
When this site first started, I noted that it's a lot easier for agency owners to have discussions about bad sessions, etc. with clients than it is for independants to have the same types of discussions. I'll leave it up to the reader to discern the blazing proof of that, which occured right here on this board (it's ok if someone else wants to point it out).


Hope Im doing this "quote" thing right...

Ummm..maybe someone can point out whatever it is Slinky is referring to? Im missing something here..sorry! :)



Besos y brazos
MexicanMami

[<Lacy>]

Okay let me clear something up now Jessica HAS BEEN FIRED!! Our webmaster has been having problems with our web server so that is why her pictures are still up so let's stop right there. On another note "fuego" aka Jessica don't even try it. I gave you this review site so you could see your review on the reason I let you go not for you to post fake reviews. There is nothing else left to be said except SPELL CHECK!

xoxox
Lacey

[BigMadM]

shit still stuck in her ass with the toilet paper stuck to it?

Oh man, that was one of the best reviews I ever read.

I love this place.

After reading stuff like this, how can anyone not love this place.

[loulovesit]

i am waiting for this thread to go to the coliseum

[NJ Independents]

Dear Friends:

Not often do you see us post on this board since we have no reason to be in the limelight as much as others but we will add our opinion in this situation. First off we believe that satin lace did the right thing as in regards to offering of free booking.

Second although Jessica was fired we believe that every person needs a second chance and perhaps just maybe the provider was having an off day that time. We do not think however that by slamming and bashing a girl that may want to make up for her past mistakes be crucified here as she has been. Also we tend to post alot on Craig's list in the NY section due to the fact that many clients of ours come from this board. This morning we found a post regarding satin lace : enclosed is post:



guys check out SATIN LACE LADIES - m4w

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Reply to: [*****]anon-36422562@craigslist.org[/*****]
Date: 2004-07-15, 1:17AM EDT


GUYS LISTEN UP , I AM PICKY and SHALLOW and this is my first review or post... you must check out SATIN LACE LADIES it is an absolute must , forget the slimy, unprofessinal, lying, girls from DAY DREAMS NJ and NJ INDYS high prices check out AMBER or the other girls at SATIN LACE LADIES the best service in jersey ... i challenge you to find anything better than what i had on WEDS. fellAs worth the trip from nyc ... I EVEN TIPPED and i am AS CHEAP AS THEY COME .. GOING BACK THIS WEEKEND AND WILL POST ANOTHER REVIEW .... good or bad


this is in or around NEW JERSEY
it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests


To our surprise it mentions us as being high priced and so forth . We have at times some drawbacks but we have very good service and we charge more so that we can give clients variety of other girls coming to visit. We were saddened by this post being that we saw it as a self post and to be honest Satin Lace and NJ Indy's and Daydreams should not be put in the same category or should self postings be done at any time .

Anyways to make a long story short this thread was a review and it turned into a gossip frenzy. He said she said I mean just get on with it and look to better things. I mean why dwell and be gossiping back and forth. This is a hobby that should be respected and make informative posts. We wish Jessica well and hope she can get her act together. At times people need a second chance so why is it different in this case? Just our opinion.. Not trying to slam anyone just tell you how things look from a different point of view.

You are right Lou this thread belongs in the coliseum.

Kisses,

Indy Girls

[MexicanaMami]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by NJ Independents
[B]Dear Friends:

Not often do you see us post on this board since we have no reason to be in the limelight as much as others but we will add our opinion in this situation. First off we believe that satin lace did the right thing as in regards to offering of free booking.


So, This is "The Limelight"? C¨mon...cant you do better that "quoting" from OF ALL places CL? Sorry, just couldnt resist!

Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly that Jessica could very well have had a VERY bad day; but certainly no excuse IF said comments are true..and I dont think anyone here doesnt believe them. Having been in this arena for more time than Id care to admit to, this would have been the Ultimate occasion for Jessica to have the appt either rescheduled or given to another of the girls. We have all read some funky reviews...also a lot of spiteful mistruths from guys who just felt slighted for whatever reason. You know the deal..we all do. Apparently (and sadly so..) this was one of those OMG situations. Not a good thing for anyone.

Lets just all hope that Jessica will go on to better things for herself. Apparently This just wasnt "for her"..be it that DAY in particular or inits entirety. S**t happens. Life goes on. NEXT....
LOLOL! :)

This stuff truly shouldnt be taken so seriously folks!!

Ay Papi!
Muchos besos y mas!
MexicanMami

[MexicanaMami]

Entiendo si no hablas mucho en ingles..si prefieras escribir en espanol..por favor, escriba. Pero, en la vida real, no pienso que habla otra idioma de ingles...yo creo que piensas de todo la gente aqui son pendejos? Piensalo Papi...Los gentes aqui no son tontos...por favor no hace un escena...


For any of those out there who need a translation, I will gladly post it..this is just MY way of "outing" Fuego...whoever they may be.


Desfruta su dia!
MexicanMami
xoxoxoxoxoxo

[BigMadM]

lets face some facts here. If the poster just walked away and felt like he was ripped, which happens 100 times a day, the agency never would have made good on shit.
This is just too much here.
She got a shit review because someone had the balls to step up and tell it like it is. Its easy to see a girl is a fatso.
If an agency or indy pawns herself off as someone alot thinner, they deserved to be bashed, smashed, and out of business.
This profession, draws in 100s of bucks an hour, how many bad days do you think these girls should have?
How about if the client feels at the end of the hour he had a shit time, he says, hey, give me back 50% of the dough, you didnt fulfill your end of the deal.
Yeah, right, she'd toss him and threaten to out him to anyone that would listen.
If a girl wants to deceive people, its her right, but she should expect it somewhere back in return.
Its always funny that there are so many girls that one never reads a bad thing about them, wonder why?
Nothing ever gets offered until its made public. Its always ok to blame the client for shit sessions, when all the fucking girl had to do is say no, Im not taking your money. Theres an honest girl for you. you smell, youre too fat, youre a slob or on drugs, get out.
Id never knock a girl who refused money based on most of these criterias as long as she wasnt using skin color as a basis of her choices.

[BigMadM]

ive been down this fucking road 50 times. all I ever got from the agencies were apologies. Keep the apologies, give me back my dough.

[MexicanaMami]

I agree100%. Well said...anything HONESTLY said negatively should definately be posted. Next case...LOL!

This stuff is so enlightening. The honesty is incredible. Should be rules to live by!! Anyone who decieves others via pix, etc that arent their own should be ashamed of themselves. In the long run its all going to come out somewhere. I think the poster should have maybe spoken up more and voiced his disappointment about the session. I certainly wouldnt have any problem in a situation like that. As far as basing ANYTHING on skin color, personally I think thats wrong. Age preferences, clearly posted on a site is one thing, but refusing someone based on their skin color is just wrong. Its likely I see a lot of things differently than others here, but, thats life!!

Besos y Brazos
MexicanMami

[<Lacy>]

Okay this is the last post I will add to this thread because it is getting old now. The posting on craig's list was from a client that saw Amber yesterday and he is an actuall person. As far as putting down other agencies that is wrong. Daydreams is a crapy agency from what I herd but as far as NJ Indys they are not over priced but very well have similar rates that we hold. The better the girl the higher the rate PERIOD! On another note we don't need to self post stuff my girls have excellent reviews on TER as well as BD and here on UG no need for faking for us. One bad seed is in every agency doesn't make that much of a diffrence. If the agency has the right looking girls then people will come regardless of anything. POINT BLANK.

xoxo
Lacey

[Slinky Bender]

In today's hate mail:

"Subject: no offense

But in regards to this jessica thread that we have been reading I mean do you not think this is all BS and just idle gossip and maybe the thread needs to be moved elsewhere. I for one do not want to hear all this garble. Perhaps that is why we do not advertise here and we advertise on eros and the dog instead. Due to the idle riff raff you let post on ur board. Let's be honest you know that all those postings are lacey and her friends so why not just stop it already and avoid the gossip and just not make this Jessica suffer in this way. I do agree Jessica was wrong but to kill her reputation is not going to help her if she does want to try this again and fix her errors . Do you not think everyone is entitled to a second chace?
To be perfectly honest it is sad you would let all of these people gossip this way and we for one will not read it. It is sad that the quality of your board has gone to this.

Regards,

NJ Indy Girls"

[neilz]

Maybe the NJ Indies should ask her if she wants a second chance with them.

[Slinky Bender]

Maybe she's already working there?

[BigMadM]

This is why someone like me could never own or operate a board.
If the review was glowing, Im sure the agency would love all the free publicity and endorsements. Wouldnt hear from them, hell, why, they get free advertising here and didnt have to invest a nickel.
But when someone airs a beef with them, they right away attack the integrity of the board and its posters.
Id bust a gasket in my head. I couldnt take the bullshit that people dole out to the moderator.
Sorry, only my opinion. Dont want to step on any toes.

[greyfox]

Originally posted by slinkybender
In the words of the Soup Nazi:

"No free session for you!!!!!!"

The last time I went to Soup Kitchen International,it was very late in the afternoon.I ordered,handed Al the money,and was handed a folded bunch of singles.When I unfolded them to put them in my wallet,I realised I'd been undercharged.Before I could get the words,"Too much change" out of my mouth,he shook his head and finger from side to side and said,"Bottom of pot."

[Thorn]

Originally posted by its_mousey
In the case of daydreams of NJ, UG and CL are replete w/multiple negative reviews of bad service and no shows. How did they respond? Either by ignoring said reviews or posting combative responses on CL. [/B]

I can't, and won't, speak for others but I, personally, have used Daydreams of NJ once. It was very recent. I appeared on time, was asked to wait, the girl wound up no-showing on them [which can, and does, happen and isn't totally their fault, as women in this business do not have the best reputation for being good about keeping appointments]. Kevin stepped up and made it right giving me a two girl session, same price, that worked out very well.

I have to say it was the best session I have had in some time and I was actually happy the original girl no showed.

I spoke to Kevin about it later, to thank him, and he told me he was going out of his way to try and bring DayDreams up in customer satisfaction. Bottomline its the only way to make the long green. Short green you can get away with sometimes, but if you want to make money over the long haul, repeat business is the only way its going to happen. The Daydream crew seems to know this, at least now if they didn't before.

OTOH (http://www.utopiaguide.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=369210&highlight=daydreams#post369210)

[loulovesit]

Went to see this girl that no longer works for them in May and by the way did not last too long with them because she found out that the girl that she was sharing her room with was just 16..... BEWARE

[Thorn]

Originally posted by Thorn

OTOH (http://www.utopiaguide.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=369210&highlight=daydreams#post369210)

No doubt about that either SB. [Who I assume edited my post to make a point, I have no doubt.] Nor do I mind him having done so. My review of Annette and Trishelle doesn't debunk JR's.

JR's review points out a definate problem, and I am not going to state that it has been corrected in its entirely. I'd have to know, personally, every girl in DD's stable for that. That is likely not going to happen. There is a lot of turn over there, as far as I can see.

I know that someone mentioned to him that he ought to check into at least one girl, due to IV drug use, and that one girl doesn't seem to work there anymore. At least she isn't on the website as being available. If that were the case, and she doesn't work there anymore, that would be one very quick response to a client's information.

There is another he ought to check into, but without hard evidence I am loath to say her name as it wouldn't be fair if I were wrong. I can say its neither of the two I reviewed here.

I am not ready to sing the praises of his stable all together. I do know I had fun with these two girls and would, and will if time and scheduling allow [Annette won't be back until after the 29th but I see from the site that Trishelle is back again], see them again. It really was one of the best sessions I have had in a long while.

I paid my money and the only break I got [a two for one] was because of his making up for a no show. Which was good, but right, of him to do. That's all I am saying and I am only saying it because it is true. No TFH here. Hopefully never will be.

[Thorn]

Originally posted by loulovesit
Went to see this girl that no longer works for them in May and by the way did not last too long with them because she found out that the girl that she was sharing her room with was just 16..... BEWARE

I think the owners of DD need to check into their girls better. I get the impression they have figured that out and are now doing so.

I would hope they realize that protecting the client, by checking their women out initially and then frequent follow-ups, protects them too AND makes for better business and a more lucrative bottomline.

[nyjetsmets]

I can't start a new thread so I'm posting this here.

I had a situation that I want to get opinions on to see if my thinking is off or not. I booked a 2 hour session with Trinity Page of Satin Lace Ladies. She was on a "special rate" of $$ per hour. The special rate was posted on CL as her web site rate is $$.5 "non-negotiable". So I book the session and the session went fine. It was my third session with Trinity and she even called me "her regular". ok, the next day I see a post on CL offering Trinity at $.5 an hour. So now I'm thinking they should have alerted me of the better deal going into effect the next day or offered me the same deal considering that I am a "regular". I ******ed that back to Satin Lace Ladies and there response was "im sorry hon but she wanted me to lower it again because she needed her rent". That's a direct quote.

My thinking is I should be compensated for the extra $ I spent. Is my thinking wrong? I ******ed them back saying the same and told them I would post this situation here to get opinions.

NYJM

[moneyshotsnj]

Originally posted by nyjetsmets

My thinking is I should be compensated for the extra $ I spent. Is my thinking wrong? I ******ed them back saying the same and told them I would post this situation here to get opinions.

NYJM

Yes your thinking is wrong. She created a special to generate more business, and then created another special to generate even more business because the first special wasn't enough.

Many businesses have sales to generate traffic. Excellerating the savings as the sale goes on is not uncommom. Offering refunds retroactively when prices go down further is not unheard of, but is strickly up to the seller

You took the deal she offered and were happy that you saved $

You obviously enjoy her services, don't let the $ you didn't save spoil it for you.

[BigMadM]

the price of the day is the price of the day.

Wonder how many guys kick themselves after booking an agency girl for 400, and then see her ad somewhere as an Indie only asking 250.

Dont sweat it, weve all been down that road,

[Wowie69]

NyJetsMets-

I feel bad for you, but you obviously did not pay attention to a couple of the basic rules of our hobby.

First, upon entering, you should always inspect the premises for a "30 Day Price Matching Guarantee" notice. Any reputable hostess will always have such notice on prominent display in the room where the transaction occurs. Read the fine print carefully. Some hostesses will give you a cash refund, but many will try to tell you it's a credit against your next session. Don't be fooled - demand your cash refund!

Secondly, you must get a receipt. I cannot stress this enough. Do you expect your hostess to remember you 25 days later when you show up and tell her that you have found similar services for a better price? A receipt will prove the price you paid for your last encounter thus allowing you to fully claim your deserved refund.

Keep these rules in mind and frugal hobbying will be yours!

[MexicanaMami]

Originally posted by Wowie69
NyJetsMets-

I feel bad for you, but you obviously did not pay attention to a couple of the basic rules of our hobby.

First, upon entering, you should always inspect the premises for a "30 Day Price Matching Guarantee" notice. Any reputable hostess will always have such notice on prominent display in the room where the transaction occurs. Read the fine print carefully. Some hostesses will give you a cash refund, but many will try to tell you it's a credit against your next session. Don't be fooled - demand your cash refund!

Secondly, you must get a receipt. I cannot stress this enough. Do you expect your hostess to remember you 25 days later when you show up and tell her that you have found similar services for a better price? A receipt will prove the price you paid for your last encounter thus allowing you to fully claim your deserved refund.

Keep these rules in mind and frugal hobbying will be yours!

Thats BY FAR the funniest thing I have read in a Looooong time!
rotflmfao!


xoxoxoxox
MexicanaMami

[Medic]

Coupons sometimes help.

I usually go for the AARP rate.

[nyjetsmets]

I was hoping for more opinions. I'm surprised I'm the only one even slightly upset of this. Post a special rate one day and then come back and post another special rate even lower than the day before. If you purchase a TV on sale on Tuesday and then Wednesday the same TV is on sale even lower than the day before at the same store, no one would go back and ask for the difference? I understand I am talking two very different scenarios but the premise is the same.

That being said, I will put the experience behind me and continue on my mongering ways :oD

NYJM

[ODB]

Originally posted by nyjetsmets
I was hoping for more opinions. I'm surprised I'm the only one even slightly upset of this. Post a special rate one day and then come back and post another special rate even lower than the day before. If you purchase a TV on sale on Tuesday and then Wednesday the same TV is on sale even lower than the day before at the same store, no one would go back and ask for the difference? I understand I am talking two very different scenarios but the premise is the same.

That being said, I will put the experience behind me and continue on my mongering ways :oD

NYJM

What can you do, most agencies are only concerned with making the most money and could care less about your grievance. Try meeting with an indie next time.

[nyjetsmets]

They (Satin Lace Ladies) may be out of business. Thier website is down and I called them and it went straight to voic*****. I left a message to call me back but they never did.

NYJM

[<Lacy>]

Hey Guys,

We are still in buisness but will be closed for two weeks this month. All the girls are getting ready to go back to school this September and most are on their last vacations before the beautiful summer comes to an end. As for our website being down we we are working on a new one with our webmaster to launch September 2nd, along with new girls and better pictures. We will have a banner here on UG next month for all who enjoy our service. Sorry for the hassel.

xoxo
Lacey

[Slinky Bender]

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