Private underground section?

[Slinky Bender]

I know that a lot of guys don't want to talk too much about underground stuff on an open board. I also know that a lot of other places which used to be fruitfull are either not longer around, or no longer very active.

If there was a private underground section set up, with access limitted to guys who:

a) Are "known" to some extent, and
b) Are required to post meaningfull info to retain their membership,

would guys:

a) Be interested, and
b) Commit to posting on a regular basis?

[JIMYDR]

I would!!!

I know a few guys that are in the loop, can they get in as well. They alert me weekly of parties.

[damnnightmare]

I know that a lot of guys don't want to talk too much about underground stuff on an open board. I also know that a lot of other places which used to be fruitfull are either not longer around, or no longer very active.

If there was a private underground section set up, with access limitted to guys who:

a) Are "known" to some extent, and
b) Are required to post meaningfull info to retain their membership,

would guys:

a) Be interested, and
b) Commit to posting on a regular basis?

I would be down for it, besides, I have a yahoo group dedicated to it due to a board that will remain nameless that is a disgrace to the scene..

[madmaxxxnyc]

Absolutely. I was a regular at UTR events up to a year ago, red door weekly, etc. Popped back underground after a year off, and the whole scene had practically vanished, except for a few party attempts, as far as I could tell. If there is still a scene around, or if we could set the forum to plan events..I'm there. And yes, Slink, in answer to your next question, I probably would pay for site access! ( If discounted combined with MP :) ) . -mmnyc

[ramagic2003]

It's always a catch 22. you have the talent but no customers, so talent leaves, then you get customers but no talent so customers don't come back. This would help bring the 2 together

[Waterclone]

I don't have the funds and often not the time either, to spend on this. So the fundamental problem becomes how do I find new places (everyone has that problem) and how do I justify spending money on it if it's gonna end up taking away from the places I know I'll enjoy.
I didn't see Slinky make any mention of this being a cost thing. All he asked was if people would be interested, and if they would commit to posting on a regular basis?

Also, even if there were a cost, "don't have the funds???" Come on. Anyone who participates in this hobby has the funds. If the private MP area is any indication, the annual cost of membership to the board would be, roughly 1/2 to 1/3 the going rate for 1 hour with your average provider.

If you can afford to spend a 2 or 3 hundred for an hour of fun, then you can afford to spend 1 to 2 hundred for a years worth of good information, which will probably save you well more than that.

Just my opinion.

[Slinky Bender]

I think he meant that he doesn't have the funds to be going out a lot, not that he doesn't have th efunds to pay for a private section.

But to be clear, this wouldn't be a paid section (although, of course, we reserve the right to make it a paid section in the future if we so decide).

[thevenerablebede]

i miss the underground. was a paid member at a few spots. had some great experiences at the red door. in fact, was across the street when the bust happened. i would contribute...

[Slinky Bender]

If we get about what? A dozen guys who would actaully contribute, would that be enough?

[thevenerablebede]

of course, how often i would get out is based upon where my wife is...

[DoubleH]

I would definitely contribute to a board like that. I got spoiled by the red door, the place between Avenue A & B, and that great party near MSG (the night the Yanks lost Game 7). As "family guy", those after-work parties were gold!

[JIMYDR]

If we get about what? A dozen guys who would actaully contribute, would that be enough?


You need about 50 guys.

[BIGROD]

I have not posted much since I have been a member but in a private underground section I would be able and willing to post a lot. I have been a member of all 3 Dss spots and loved the Red door spot. As a matter of fact I used to attend the red door spot 3 or 4 times a month.

[Troutman]

I would want to be in the underground section because that is an area of the hobby that I have very little knowledge of, and find fascinating. I'm sure that after a short time of lurking and educationg myself, I would become a fairly good contributor. Or I'd leave. One or the other...

[Aegis911]

I can't get out at night on a regular basis. SO travels infrequently so nights are problems for me.

I don't think I'd join.

[Slinky Bender]

Where's edouble?

(and thrasherp, and un4given, and nyctruth, and Duckman, and TC123, and Shoot2Thrill, and theword, and steinbuster, and tunahead, and John75, and mumsamumsa, and Jay Wood, and..............)

[justlooking]

I'd be interested in joining -- although I'd understand if I eventually got thrown out for lack of factual contributions.

[jb_nyc]

I would be interested in joining. My hobbying activity is generally limited to about once a quarter, so my contributions couldn't be more frequent than that. Not sure if that fits the bill.

[yemaya424]

Definitely interested. Travel for work and a SO will limit my posts but I do get the occasional lead on an underground spot or party. I'm a member of another underground board that has, sadly, appeared to have died on the vine...

[brykster]

i am very interested. i've been completely unsuccessful trying to get in on the yahoo boards. at least here, i have a little bit of cred so to speak...and i'm sure you guys know i will both participate and contribute.

[conoworld]

This definitly sounds like a good thing I don't get into the city much for not wanting to waste time trying to find a place that actually provides what some bozo's say it provides.

would like to have a place to share my atf and still keep it utr.

[theword]

I'd be interested, but am in a similar position as q32003 -- really inactive these days due to lack of $$$, and also the trend for events to get going really late when I can't be there. I wouldn't be able to contribute much because I don't get out to these events much. All of the places I used to frequent are gone.

The thing is, I like to keep up with what's going on...places come and go so quickly these days. If money gets better, or I want to find someplace to go on a whim, it's nice to be able to find out what's happening.

No one wants to post much in public these days, and that's understandable. Would it be OK to be inactive if "known" ... since everyone should know we're not there to mess it up for others?

It would be good to have this private space, regardless if folks like me are wanted in it. I think both promoters and reviewers would feel more comfortable posting to a known group. Promoters are in a real bind now -- not enough publicity and no one shows up; too much and you could be getting yourself raided. The same with reviews; no one wants to get their favorite place in trouble.

[Dondee]

I would join the section just so that I could keep my eyes on justlooking and make sure he doesn't post unfactual contributions.

[twistlok]

I would gladly join and add where I can. Sicnce the folding of the UC spots I know I have kind of been outof that scene though. I would love to get involved again.

[Slinky Bender]

For the guys with only a few posts who want "in", do I know you or is there someone who can vouch for you? (you can answer this in an e*mail if you feel more comfortable).

[brykster]

For the guys with only a few posts who want "in", do I know you or is there someone who can vouch for you? (you can answer this in an e*mail if you feel more comfortable).

i hope i'm not one of those guys...

[Shoot2Thrill]

I think it's a great idea!

[Mush]

How would you qualify the members? Personal knowledge of attendance at events?

[damnnightmare]

damn, this is bringing out the lurkers...

Slinky, there is only one way to qualify cats..

face to face knowledge or your own personal exchanges...

due to the loose lips of some of this board and other yahoo groups, that is the only way to be certain...

plus, no lurkers...

no fake mongers, the kind that just go to a party and don't vip, dance or tip stage shows, there are too many of them, and cats like that ruin the talent base for the real mongers..

[Slinky Bender]

How would you qualify the members? Personal knowledge of attendance at events?

That would be one criteria (the most prevalent one, too).

[robnotbob]

I would be interested.

[thevenerablebede]

the concern of many posters about not going out much would go out the window once this thing started up. with more info we'd have more opportunities. i used to get motivated back when there was active posting about the red door. i definitely went out more because of this info. an informed consumer...


btw, i agree with jimydr about needing 50 participants.

[Troutman]

For the guys with only a few posts who want "in", do I know you or is there someone who can vouch for you? (you can answer this in an e*mail if you feel more comfortable).
I will personally vouch for me.

[ooorrr444]

the first thing people will say is that I have not posted enough...well that is true it is also true I would post a lot more if I was Regularly going to a Quality UG spot where it was not a crap shoot week to week.....point being I'm down....

[hare]

The reason the underground scene is dead is because of security. I don’t really think that a private section is going to do much for security for the following reasons:

1. Greedy promoters hold the events at the same place more than once or twice a month. Its only stealth if the location changes constantly. By the way the red door is now brown.

2. The number of posts means nothing to me as far as security. It’s called under cover. Put your money where your mouth is. $50 to $100 annual fee, if your not known then you have to meet a UG "known" person at a neutral location for drinks. Via ***** provide your description to your “known escort” and when you meet have some ID available (similar to first time at Julies if you remember). If you can’t afford it then you should take up another hobby.

3. The events are/were posted way to far in advance. Event locations shouldn’t even be posted or *****ed. You should have a UG get together at a mainstream bar, give the location out verbally there and leave from there.

4. Infiltration comes from the supply side also. Only known supply should be invited to these parties and new supply should have to go through the same process as new demand. Just ask Julie.

As for the lurkers, some of us are just shy. If I’m correct this is my 4th post. I was introduced to slinky (think it was you) by Fluffer888 (mmm Fluffer888) a while back at D**. So since I only lurk should I be excluded. Perhaps. Just my two cents.

[HornDogBuddah]

I'd be interested in joining.

[tunahead]

Count me in Slinky.

[justlooking]

The reason the underground scene is dead is because of security. I don’t really think that a private section is going to do much for security for the following reasons:

1. Greedy promoters hold the events at the same place more than once or twice a month. Its only stealth if the location changes constantly. By the way the red door is now brown.

2. The number of posts means nothing to me as far as security. It’s called under cover. Put your money where your mouth is. $50 to $100 annual fee, if your not known then you have to meet a UG "known" person at a neutral location for drinks. Via ***** provide your description to your “known escort” and when you meet have some ID available (similar to first time at Julies if you remember). If you can’t afford it then you should take up another hobby.

3. The events are/were posted way to far in advance. Event locations shouldn’t even be posted or *****ed. You should have a UG get together at a mainstream bar, give the location out verbally there and leave from there.

4. Infiltration comes from the supply side also. Only known supply should be invited to these parties and new supply should have to go through the same process as new demand. Just ask Julie.

As for the lurkers, some of us are just shy. If I’m correct this is my 4th post. I was introduced to slinky (think it was you) by Fluffer888 (mmm Fluffer888) a while back at D**. So since I only lurk should I be excluded. Perhaps. Just my two cents.

Oh, OK, in this case I'm NOT interested.

(PS re The Brown Door -- Tried to go there a few nights ago to meet a friend for drinks. It was closed cuz of a watermain break. Some things, at least, don't change.)

[hardrobert]

IMHO nothing has measured up to the Red Door and since it was busted everybody has been, understandably, circumspect. I don't know where to go to have the Red Door type experience in terms of the available spectrum of choices and flavors. Maybe a board as suggested by the Slinky would help.

[HarmFanX]

I normally get into town (from Boston) three or four times a year, and would certainly do a write-up on each visit, assuming this section gave me something to go to. As it is, I haven't indulged since January for lack of attractive options (my planned April visit was the week two spots were shut down, then I was in town for four days in July for a conference but couldn't find anything I wanted to spend money on).

[un4given]

ahhh.. from the red door to the carwash on Flatbush to the home of a certain looney bird... these places just disappeared on me:( Hellz yea count me in!

Oh and re funds discussion: I am probably the most broke mofo on this board. Which is why I am such a priceless value to my fellow mongers. I must be the only person on this entire board who has NEVER paid ANYONE even $100 for an hour of fun. I am also one of the select few here who regularly gets $30 bjs at underground parties.
So Q320003 -- don't belittle yourself. We are not a problem but a BENEFIT to this board and the monger community. We keep the prices down for everyone! Sure we do not have funds to attend every event, but when we do attend, we definitely have stuff to report.

Lets get this board on the road!

[shade]

Oh, OK, in this case I'm NOT interested.

(PS re The Brown Door -- Tried to go there a few nights ago to meet a friend for drinks. It was closed cuz of a watermain break. Some things, at least, don't change.)

This makes sense except for the part about people paying making the private group more secure. Why wouldn't someone undercover pay to join this group?
I would love to get involved in the underground scene, but have no experience. My limited experience is with AMP's. I could understand why this would exclude me but there should be away to initiate people or gradually allow more and more access.

p.s- I meant to quote Hare's response but quoted justlooking. hope this make's some sort of sense...

[Rokin]

I would be interested in joining.
My nights are not as free as they used to be, but I like the parties when I can go and I would certainly post my experiences.

[nycgus01]

Let me say, up front that I've been a lurker and an active UG participant for years. yes this is my first post and I would be very very interested in a private group for UG activities. With the Red Door gone (where I had my first UG experience upstairs), the occassional ASs-C east gone, DSS (membership #1494) gone and The Spot being history, you would think that somewhere in NYC the UG has been revived, but I'm sad to say that I think it hasn't. Anyway, if this private group does get started I'd like to be a part of it. My issue isnt so much the limited funds as it is opportunity to get away from the wife, so I think my participation would be on a 4-6 week basis.

[justlooking]

(I should make clear that I'm still interested. I'm just not going to any bar to be screened by anybody before posting. And neither is anybody else.)

[ayemedroogie]

There are already several like invitation only boards out there. I'm sure Slinky personally knows enough e=mail addys to set up a board anytime he wants to.

Is there enough interest? -- Sure.
If so, are people willing to post? -- Probably.
If so, is there much that's worth posting about at this time? -- Doubtful.
Is charging a fee or meeting at a bar gonna make the board more secure? -- BWAH HA HA HA HA HA HA!
In any case, do the promoters want to use this board as a vector for new clients? -- Unlikely. (otherwise they'd buy an ad)

Personally, I've taken a break form the UG scene for a while, and have been exploring my extensive PS list.

Most of the UG stuff I've heard about recently was <yawn> been there, done that much better elsewhere. There's NOTHING worth going to that starts to get going before midnight or 1am at the earliest, and I'm not going out at that hour for something that's likely to be VERY lame.

I'd be interested in participating, if this list actually gets off the ground, just to see if anything I don't already know about, peaks my interest.

[tornillo_monger]

When does it stop though,

you have UG with a "sub group" then when that group gets too crowded do you then have a sub-sub group?

[thevenerablebede]

DSS (membership #1494)
#1032 here

[The Purple Helmet]

Slinkybender – The All Powerful Moderator


As a “professional monger” the activities that occur, from my understanding, at UG places are frankly the only activities I am interested in. Hit and miss at the SC’s can be a frustrating and expensive adventure. It has been difficult for me to learn the secret handshake to gain access to these places. However, if I could, I would and would be glad to discreetly share my experiences.


TPH

“Just Fuck Chicks”

[nycstripclubs]

(membership #1494) #1032 here

Just the kinda stuff you wanna see on an open board.

The problem is that you NEVER know where the DL stuff you post on a so called private board is gonna show up. Not to say that it can't work, I've had some success with the NYC strip clubs back channel board in the past, (it's been awful quiet there lately tho). I'm sure there'll be A LOT of overlap if this one gets started.

Peace,
Valjean

[thevenerablebede]

JVJ:

I assumed that these numbers were now meaningless. Besides, my understanding was that there was a name associated with each number and I certainly didn't post my name. My apologies if I breached protocol. That said, I miss the Rat Pack...

[brykster]

so, is this going to happen?

[ozmotion]

this is a good idea.. i've been wondering how things are going to pan out as well.

[BIGROD]

The fact that people posted their membership # shows why these place eventually gets busted despite how careful the promoters are. I went to a recent well known promoter's party and he had clearly stated he did not want anyone entering after a certain time because the hotel security will start asking questions and checking IDs...I still saw people in the event on their cell phones calling their friends and giving them the location long after the cutoff time. Also when DSS was open I left there once and saw this fool outside on his cell phone and was asking everyone who exited the building if "this was the building with DSS". Clearly some silly member sent him there without thinking.
The point is no matter what security measures are taken some people are just going to do silly things that makes it harder to stay under the radar.

[thevenerablebede]

how did my posting a membership number to a long gone place compromise anyone's security?

[RockofGibraltar06]

I just saw this section, and am DEFINITELY interested....not a problem at all :)

[damnnightmare]

The fact that people posted their membership # shows why these place eventually gets busted despite how careful the promoters are. I went to a recent well known promoter's party and he had clearly stated he did not want anyone entering after a certain time because the hotel security will start asking questions and checking IDs...I still saw people in the event on their cell phones calling their friends and giving them the location long after the cutoff time. Also when DSS was open I left there once and saw this fool outside on his cell phone and was asking everyone who exited the building if "this was the building with DSS". Clearly some silly member sent him there without thinking.
The point is no matter what security measures are taken some people are just going to do silly things that makes it harder to stay under the radar.

well put..

that is why the new spots are not going to be shared with the masses...

[ayemedroogie]

well put..that is why the new spots are not going to be shared with the masses...

Which is also why they'll either be weak or eventually go out of business due to lack of interest.

Several underground spots advertised on this and other open boards WITHOUT any LE intervention while they remained in business. There's a certain minimum amount of traffic necessary for an underground spot to be able to provide the quality and variety to make it worthwhile going to on a regular basis over any extended period of time. It's a very difficult line for the promoter to tread.

[Slinky Bender]

It's a very difficult line for the promoter to tread.

Agreed (I've said just that a thousand times). You can't be both undeground and secret, and above ground and known. There's a trade off, and "you" (the owner) has to decide what your risk tollerance is. But you can't both keep things ultra tight, and get all the customers in the world. But what I will say is that in general I don't think "screening" get's owners/promoters anywhere in terms of sheilding them directly from LE. Most often, LE knows about all the spots, and all you screen out is potential customers. I don't think it's possible to "screen out" LE if they really want to get into any spot. They have more resources than any of your customers. The only way to keep LE out is to not let anybody in. It keeps you secure, but it doesn't do much for revenue.

The biggest counter to this is when I've seen promoters handing out flyers in the neighborhood where the event is happening. I think it's fairly obvious that doing this is going to alert the area residents of the existance of the events, as well as rub their nose in it*. And I think the area residents are a much more proximate cuase of these spots getting shut down than LE "finding out" that they exist.

* There was a place in Harlem which was hopping a whlie back (?139?). They had 3 different promoters, and one was stupid enough to hand out flyers within a few blocks of the place. It didn't last long after that.

[thevenerablebede]

Again, no one has explained how I compromised anything by providing a membership number to a long closed place. A membership number which I paid for and then became worthless. No contact from the owners since it closed. I didn't post this while it was open. I am not an idiot. I never took anyone there. I never discussed the place except in the appropriate forums on this site. So please damnnightmare & bigrod tell me how I contributed to the demise of the underground. Btw, I have much respect for JVJ and if he doesn't want me to post I won't. But I will say this: before the red door was shut down I discussed on these pages my qualms about security and was in fact across the street when LE arrived:

http://www.utopiaguide.com/forums/showthread.php?p=248038#post248038

&

http://www.utopiaguide.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19445

So again, I ask how my posting of some old and incomplete information provides LE with anything useful. Especially when you compare it to the type information that was regularly being posted by the owners:

http://www.utopiaguide.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17547

[justlooking]

You don't know what happened to their computer records. You don't know what use, if any, is now being made of those numbers, and by whom. It is complete speculation to assume they are "dead".

I'm not one of the people jumping on the guys who posted their numbers, but what possible upside was there (to override the obvious possible downside)?

[thevenerablebede]

I replied to a post with my number. Done in the spirit of fun and camaraderie. I don't doubt that someone somewhere has the membership list but in order to gain entry you had to provide additional information. My number alone would not gain entry.

[catscratchfever]

I would like to be included. I have an excellent UTR place that I have not seen anyone post about on any board. I would offer this as my first contribution to the UTR board ,If Slinky thinks it is a worthly contribution then he would grant me access. I think that is a good way to vet any one who would like to be part of the UTR section.

[jimbo44]

Count me in, as currently I need to only go to Underground events due to being incognito. Probably why I have not posted in awhile either. I always look tho!

[thezoos]

i would be willing to participate.

i dont have too many posts but i think my "reviews to posts" ratio is pretty good.

Lemme know

TZ

[elsyan]

I only wonder if there is enough content out there!

[patroklus2004]

I would join in. I can get out every other week or so as $$$ dictate.

Vouching is a tough nut as we seem by nature to be a solitary bunch, except on-line. Some connections would have to be made. Someone could make themselves known at various monger spots by secret handshakes or some other signal, like ordering a shot of Rock and Rye with a twist (which I've never seen anyone drink in real life).

But, I'm a newbie, so I'd pretty much go along with whatever the vets say. (And no, I'm not completely sure if the term 'solitary bunch' makes sense.)

[thrasherp]

Please count me in. I won't post it, but I have a membership name & card number from the Red Door and Spot days. I don't attend every event, but I shoot for once a month. TIA!

[METALFACE]

I'd be interested. Not sure there is much info out there. Take a look at the egroups backchannel board and you'll get the idea. Still there are spots in Brooklyn that I'd be willing to share. So yeah I'd like to see something like this.

I know that a lot of guys don't want to talk too much about underground stuff on an open board. I also know that a lot of other places which used to be fruitfull are either not longer around, or no longer very active.

If there was a private underground section set up, with access limitted to guys who:

a) Are "known" to some extent, and
b) Are required to post meaningfull info to retain their membership,

would guys:

a) Be interested, and
b) Commit to posting on a regular basis?

[pumunch]

the thrill of doing it in a crowded room vs in a motel room....ah i miss the Red door Wed parties....

[TC123]

The fact that people posted their membership # shows why these place eventually gets busted despite how careful the promoters are. I went to a recent well known promoter's party and he had clearly stated he did not want anyone entering after a certain time because the hotel security will start asking questions and checking IDs...I still saw people in the event on their cell phones calling their friends and giving them the location long after the cutoff time. Also when DSS was open I left there once and saw this fool outside on his cell phone and was asking everyone who exited the building if "this was the building with DSS". Clearly some silly member sent him there without thinking.
The point is no matter what security measures are taken some people are just going to do silly things that makes it harder to stay under the radar.

I agree. I was at the same recent party and saw the same thing. I left shortly thereafter, rather than stick around and possibly get caught up in the result of such carelessness.

It seems to me that most "well-known" underground participants already have the info about what's going on, when and where. We get our info just fine. Sometimes when we don't, it's because there really isn't much going on, not due to a lack of a UG section. It seems to me that the people without the info, are the people that are not "well-known", and wouldn't be invited to join this section anyway.

If the proposed section is established, I hope that the membership is as strictly controlled as can reasonably be expected, but as BigRod explained so well, even some "well-known", seemingly trustworthy participants, can get careless.

It should take a lot more than "having a drink" with another UG member to get access.

Slinky, my advice is that if you are going to do it, just do it, with the people you trust, by invitation only, without even advertising it's existence on an open board. So non-members of the subgroup won't even see an icon for it, or anything else to let them know it exists. No need to call extra attention to it. Sound familiar?

I realize that sounds exclusionary, and contrary to the general purpose of this board, which is to share info, but the underground is called the underground for a reason. Anyone can find their way in, if they are willing to spend the time, and do the legwork.

[happy2]

I would be interested especially if you limit who is in

[JackT]

Sounds like a good idea... I'd be interested in being in on and contributing to it.

[un4given]

Wow... do i want to know why he got banned?

[theword]

Wow... do i want to know why he got banned?

There's banned and then there's Banned.

[Harmony Memories]

Put me in

[TC123]

Put me in

...said the monger to the whore.

[truthbsaid]

I am low on posts, but have been around for a while. I would like to be included on the undergound info.

[jv2mpb]

Please how can I contact slinkybender?
Thanks Jan

[brykster]

Please how can I contact slinkybender?
Thanks Jan

post something...he reads them all.

[Mercuric1]

Please add me to list slinky

[LushWet]

I'd want in but I won't go to loosely-managed scenes. The best is when those wild parties get too loud and the smart pooners tip each other off about the suite upstairs/next door where the real underground scene is underway.

[John99]

Count me in.

[ilovenegril]

I attended regularly, posted occasionally, & will keep my mouth shut. Have no hookup at this time - all the spots I knew of a year ago are gone. I'm down to scanning CL, where, suprisingly enough, I've done ok. But I miss the parties and the variety.

[Psychosis]

I'm in!

[lepke]

I think you have an excellent idea here Slinky...I have watched this thread grow and most guys that have a clue about these matters agree that the city is now devoid of a really solid spot...The last attempt was well intended but alas under funded and very poorly run but it had potential..I applaud your proactive attempt to put together a good list of members for a new and better place for good fellows like those on the UG board..I am hoping that you can close the forum with new passwords with a paid membership just for those that are serious...You can limit LE by only giving access to members who are known and/or can be vouched for by a trusted member as i believe you stated..Oh did I mention that I want in........

[justlooking]

Ummmmmm, I thought this thread was about creating a place to TALK about whatever places may now exist, not to CREATE a new place to go to.

If it's the latter (which I highly doubt), then count me OUT.

[lepke]

Ummmmmm, I thought this thread was about creating a place to TALK about whatever places may now exist, not to CREATE a new place to go to.

If it's the latter (which I highly doubt), then count me OUT.

The forum is still open....Once Slinky closes it, it was my idea that then posts would start in reference to both new and existing places...And then let me understand you, if there were a new underground group started here you would want out....Don't know if i'm reading you right there....

[justlooking]

If the members of the group got together and CREATED a new place, I would want out.

[justlooking]

(By "place" I mean underground venue.) (If that isn't what you meant, and I misread you, I apologize.)

[gdb]

Slinky -

I'd like in, haven't posted here necessarily, but can surely supply you with personally identifiable info, and references to places we've been to simultaneously, to up the comfort level.

Things have been too quiet on the yahoo side for too long... then that abortive HANDSON party.

Let's get this going!

[lepke]

(By "place" I mean underground venue.) (If that isn't what you meant, and I misread you, I apologize.)

Ok understood.....

[hotspot]

Well I Would Want To Be A Member I Have Been And Took Part In All The Events That Was Name And I Always Know Where A Event Is Going On Plus I Know Alot Of Promoters So U Can Include Me.

[Justin Thyme]

thanks

[moneyboss]

count me in

[dirty]

i would be in

[HANDS ON]

I Would Like In As Well

[un4given]

I want in....... j'lo's crotch!

[BennyHill]

Benny Hill would love an invite to the private section. Slinky any info would be great, I am willing to jump through hoops, very interested and willing to contribute.

BTW
You guys with one post begging to get in should be ashamed of yourselves.

[undulator]

Hey there,

I am brand new and still learning all the jargon that you guys use here, but I would be interested in getting involved with the 'underground' scene which I take to mean swing clubs? Anyways, I recently moved back to the area and have been looking (unsuccessfully) for something like this, a girl I know says she wants to check it out as well, so I'll be checkin back, and apolgies if I am wrong or confusing...

[laps101]

I'd be happy to join. I'm a lurker here, but I've posted before on some other boards. I tend to drop in and out of the scene, due to available funds and business of my life. I've been out for a while, but I'm looking to jump back in.

Some people here know me. I've been to a few UG events with my wife. I think I may be one of the few mongers who is married to another monger.

[ceoman]

Very good idea. Count me in.

By the way, there's still one place operating, or so I've heard. It's a Central European restaurant with Thai girls downtown. Anybody been there?

[justlooking]

Danube?

[ceoman]

Nope, that's not it.

[yamaha]

i did pay for private section with paypal and did not get any info how to get in. not sure how it works please send info thanks. yamaha.

[Slinky Bender]

Please send an ***** to service at UG

[Slinky Bender]

Please send an ***** to service at UG

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[buzz99]

My question as a newbie here is how i can get known.

I've been a monger for years, and can remember when sws on 8th and 8th streets in NYC were too many to count. But how do you know that I'm not LE -- which has GOT to be your key question -- and how do I get some street creds, for lack of a better term?

Reviews? Posts? That doesn't seem to be a very efficient way of weeding out those who should and those who shouldn't be invited to the sub group. And of course EVERYONE will want to be part of the inner circle.

Do I even have enough posts to ask a question?

[Harmony Memories]

I'm a little confused. Does a "Private underground Section" actually exist on this forum ? And if it does, how do I get access ?

[firefightertom]

Yes, Id be very interested

[buzz99]

BTW i AM interested

[handjive]

I would be very interested in joining. I have been keeping my hobbying to a minimum the past few months due to financial constraints but I am now nackin the saddle (so to speak)

[jimbo44]

even tho I have not posted in awhile. Been tied up with a steady Colombian hottie, but I would engage in some of the old Underground parties again.

[Oogie196]

THe downside to UG parties is by the tim ehtey get good too many people know and it becomes danagerous. They have some revolving venues, but are hard to keep track if not an active participant. Anyhow a notification system woud be great...

[justlooking]

They have some revolving venues,

You mean they've been using the bar at the top of the Marriot Times Square?

[dogcat]

I would like to get in to . no real posts but I think I can supply enuff info for you to remember me.

[mr8500]

I would love to take part in some of the UG partys

[beethoven]

Count me in

[snivman]

Count me in!

[411]

THIS JUST IN:

Brooklyn/Queens promoter Moonsplash was raided recently at a Club in Queens. Several guys and about 15-20 dancers were arrested. More details coming soon.

[mr8500]

I'm in if this is going to happen. I can absolutely have someone vouch for me. Let me know guys!

[Iorek]

any hopes of a thread revival..anything happening in the NYC? Lord I miss the red door, seems so long ago...

[tunahead]

any hopes of a thread revival..anything happening in the NYC? Lord I miss the red door, seems so long ago...

Check out Bump N GRIND

[jerryv914]

Used to be regular attendee at red door, would love to know about similar events!!

[jerryv914]

Where is Bump n Grind?