Amber & Friends

[DannyNJ]

I've seen some questionable reviews of Ambers, both here and on other boards but they do have some nice talent. Check out this new girl!!

http://www.nnjescorts.com/users/amber/girls/sam/index.asp?p=sam

If anyone has a review, I'd love to hear it.
This girl is HOT

[Humble Narrator]

Originally posted by DannyNJ
I've seen some questionable reviews of Ambers, both here and on other boards but they do have some nice talent. Check out this new girl!!

http://www.nnjescorts.com/users/amber/girls/sam/index.asp?p=sam

If anyone has a review, I'd love to hear it.
This girl is HOT

Hello everyone

Well, I have been through a lot of changes lately. I am however trying to get back into the swing of things. Sam at NNJ Escorts (Amber and Friends) is incredibly hot, as evidenced by her pix and those adorable videos on their web site. I just love it when she says, "I wanna know what you got in YOUAH pants."

I so want to enlighten her.

Amber doesn't appear to be keeping her AIM sessions going like she used to. I sent her an email yesterday but haven't yet heard back. When I do, I will certainly take one for the team.

While we are waiting for a field report on Sam, those pix and videos of Amber have also really got me thinking (or something kind-of like thinking). Surely some of our membership here must have tried that particular fun ride, yes? If so, please illumine the rest of us.

SB: good to see you continue to fight the good fight.

HN

[Escort_King]

Okay, with the disclaimer given at MSNBC "I have an affiliation" having done some web work and thrown up info on yahoo to help drive traffic to site, I am also a customer... it was how I got the gig in the first place.

Definitely YMMV but guess I have been lucky and their motives were to please the helper...

Amber can be a lot of fun.

[Humble Narrator]

Originally posted by Escort_King
Definitely YMMV but guess I have been lucky and their motives were to please the helper...

Amber can be a lot of fun.

I witnessed your initial forays on this board. It is of course prudent for you to give caveats when talking about Amber and Friends. Nevertheless, I think it's a shame that you only provide the vaguest of descriptions. Perhaps your insights could help others form an opinion about what might be possible on the high end of the experience scale with A&F. This would serve to help those of us who attempt to foster long-term associations with agencies to get a better idea of what is really possible with these folks.

Just to be clear, what I would like to know is A) who among us has seen either Samantha or Amber and B) what is your assessment of the experience? The more information the better.

EK: I realize you are in a difficult position, given the obvious conflict of interest, so do what you think is best.

[DandyDon]

HN, I have had the pleasure of seeing Amber last Tuesday night. Making a phone call told me where and when to meet with Amber, but unfortunately the gal answering the phone never told Amber!! So, I found myself out in the parking lot for almost 1/2 hour waiting for her to finish her last date. When she finally came out to get me, things went along pretty well. She had a cigarette while we got to know each other better. When she was done with her cigarette, Amber was ready to get down to business. Immediately stripping down, she proceeded to give me a fairly good massage. After a few minutes of this, she had me roll over and started on the front. She really likes to hug and kiss while fooling around. She went from a HR to a CBJ. She didn't mind me playing "touchy feely" as long as I didn't stick my fingers where they didn't belong. she also didn't mind having her breasts squeezed (hard, I might add) as long as I stayed away from her nipples (very sensitive, she said) She finished me off with a HR as the hour drew to a close. The only part of my date with her that was bothersome was she kept getting calls on her cell phone and would have to stop and answer it each of the three times it rang. All in all, it was a fun time, not a "10" like I would have expected from her, but like Dunkin Donuts sez "It's worth the trip" The fee was the normal $$ and I would see her again, but I want to see Nikki and Ashlyn before a return trip to Amber.

[Humble Narrator]

Originally posted by DandyDon
HN, I have had the pleasure of seeing Amber last Tuesday night.
<snip>
She really likes to hug and ... went from a HR to a CBJ. ..."touchy feely" as long as I didn't stick my fingers where they didn't belong ... as long as I stayed away from her nipples ... finished me off with a HR ... she kept getting calls ... stop and answer it each of the three times it rang ... a fun time, not a "10" like I would have expected from her, but like Dunkin Donuts sez "It's worth the trip"

DD: thanks for the detailed report. This is good information, if not exactly the kind of results I was hoping for. This sounds more like an MP experience than a FS escort. Was this your expectation? Not only that, but I am surprised at the phone calls.

One last thing: where do fingers not belong? Perhaps I have been doing this all wrong.

Anyone else find this report interesting?

Still waiting on a report on Samantha.

[Edited by Humble Narrator on 10-30-2001 at 05:52 PM]

[DandyDon]

HR, I've been a hobbist for some time now and i've seen REALLY good and REALLY bad providers. Amber has skills and does some things well, ie CBJ. I didn't press or actually even enquire about FS just because this was a first visit "feel-out" It was definately a MP type of experience, but I was not expecting anything more--right or wrong. I'm hoping this was a first meeting experience and the next meeting will be a FS escort experience!! Either way, i'll let this board know.

The phone calls only interupted to massage portion of the evening, so no real harm was done. The next one on my list is either Nikki or Ashlyn--they both look great!!

[Humble Narrator]

Well, your Humble Narrator has a little story to tell.

I did finally get a response email from our friends at NNJ Escorts (AKA Amber and Friends). I subsequently called their number and had a very good conversation with one of the two folks that actually run this agency. My interest in Samantha was stoked even further when I was told she does basically everything but Greek. We set up a booking for yesterday afternoon in a rather nice hotel in the Wayne area. I have heard that they have previously used a somewhat low-end motel in the area that is notorious for hobby activity. I was glad to see that they have raised the bar in this department.

Sam was about 1/2 hour late, but the time was actually not guaranteed, so no sweat. She's a college student and had a bit of a drive to get there.

I watched Sam come into the hotel lobby and heard her infectious laughter while she was checking in. Just lovely. I got the call with the room number and after giving her a few minutes, up I went. Samantha is stunning. Her pictures and video on the NNJE site are very nice, but they really don't do her justice. She's a 9 (+/- .5 margin of error) and has long beautiful hair, perfect teeth, a ready smile and gorgeous, soft skin that is quite sensitive to subtleties. Oh my.

She took a quick shower, as did I, then some chatting to get acquainted. We kissed in the sweetest of beginnings. Oh, is this girl a darling! She then began to caress us both and asked if I liked to watch. I of course replied in the affirmative. After a couple of minutes of this, I had to help. She very much enjoys DATY.

Things were going well, when we suddenly experienced a small problem. Sam was kind of embarrased, but I told her not to worry. This did limit some of our activities, but only slightly. She proceeded to bbbj (which is clearly a YMWV activity with Sam, based on personal comfort level). At my request, we swiveled to a mutually pleasing position, which just about did me in. I asked her to stop (didn't ask about TC because I wanted to save that). We then went on to the main show, which was limited to Missionary only, due to the slight problem I mentioned before.

I was enjoying this immensely when my cell starting ringing. It rang 3 times in about 2 minutes, so fearing an emergency with my son, I asked to take a break. The calls were not of an emergency nature, but the mood had been somewhat broken. We were about out of time, so I suggested that we take a shower together and finish things up with soap (another one of my favorite things!). Sam was more than happy to oblige.
I can't tell you how intoxicating it was to rub soap bubbles all over her body while she gave me a nice hr, complete with a lovely kiss at just the right moment.

Overall, I would have to say that this was a very good experience. Sam has not been doing this long, so she seems a bit awkward at times, but perhaps that was more due to her wanting to make a good impression on a UG member. Nevertheless, I will be seeing her again soon. I have to think she will only get better with time. I too will be more at ease during subsequent encounters.

As for the statistics: Sam is much smaller than I thought from her pix and vids. She's only about 5 feet tall and can't weigh much over 100 lbs, if that. Her completely natural figure is to die for. Perfect everything. She has several tattoos, which are merely distracting to me. She also has one nipple pierced as well as her tongue. She is bright and friendly. I don't think she smokes either.

For a first time NNJE experience, this was outstanding. Hats off to our friends in Norther New Jersey!

[DannyNJ]

HN - You're my new hero! Been waiting for someone to post a review of Samantha! Glad to hear that she's a GFE.

I don't get up in NNJ area much, but have vacation time next week and will definitely make the trip now based on your positive comments.

(BTW - was that kissing you described DFK?)

[Humble Narrator]

Originally posted by DannyNJ
HN - You're my new hero!


My life is complete.

Originally posted by DannyNJ
(BTW - was that kissing you described DFK?)

"Her lips and tongue were smolderingly sensuous".

That would be a "yes".

[Edited by Humble Narrator on 11-02-2001 at 11:24 AM]

[Hotpuppy]

"Things were going well, when we suddenly experienced a small problem. Sam was kind of embarrased, but I told her not to worry. "

HN,
What was she embarrassed about?
HP

[Humble Narrator]

Originally posted by Hotpuppy
"Things were going well, when we suddenly experienced a small problem. Sam was kind of embarrased, but I told her not to worry. "

HN,
What was she embarrassed about?
HP

I hesitate at being completely forthcoming due to the rather personal nature of the situation. Yes, I know that's what we specialize in: turning very intimate episodes into roaringly public discussions, but this time I must choose discretion.

[Slinky Bender]

No more burritos for Samantha on workdays !!!!! :eek:

[mcheck57]

Apparently...that time of the month

[DandyDon]

HP, I'm assuming the HN was referring to a case of the unexpected "the curse"---her period. But you know what they say: You're not a real soldier unless you play on a bloody playing field!!

HN, I've had my sights set on either Nikki or Ashlen, but seeing this review, I might have to switch to Samantha.

[littleguy]

DATY during that "time of the month" is something I personally try to avoid.

[Hotpuppy]

HN,
I asked a simple question with no intent of turning an intimate episode into a "roaringly public discussion". I totally respect your wish for discretion- however, why bring it up at all?
take care,
HP

[buddyyy]

HN

And I thought you were just the humble narrator. <gg>

[Humble Narrator]

Originally posted by Hotpuppy
HN,
I asked a simple question with no intent of turning an intimate episode into a "roaringly public discussion". I totally respect your wish for discretion- however, why bring it up at all?
take care,
HP

HP: You know me well enough to know that I don't waste time inserting pointless information into a story (aside from my occasional gushing). The inclusion of said description was simply to mention that while the encounter was indeed memorable in many positive ways, it was not without its awkward moments. If I left it out, I might be accused of sugar-coating the tale (tail? Freudian pseudo-slip? slit? Please stop me!).

The compromise I decided on was to include said moment, but without the details. Our fellow members seemed to understand my meaning well enough.

BTW, about the roaringly public stuff: I really wasn't trying to chastise you. In fact, I wasn't referring to your quesiton at all. I was stating what I thought was obvious: we do in fact take very private encounters and turn them into eternally digressive dissections, sometimes for no good reason. This little bit of the story seemed to me to be best handled with the fuzzy lens.

Anyway, bottom line is this: A&F/NNJE seems to have at least one real diamond in the rough. Samantha is a sweet, clean, smart, pretty young lady with whom I very much enjoyed myself. I hope everyone treats her with the respect she deserves. Perhaps with a few more "wins" on the board this agency can take its place alongside those other venerable greats in the pantheon of NNJ agencies.

Customer service really is the differentiator.

[Edited by Humble Narrator on 11-02-2001 at 09:55 PM]

[blacklash]

Amber and Friends is a complete hit or miss agency - sometimes you end up ok, sometimes you don't. I tried outcall with them and, well, it was a major disappointment (well, it was with that ex-amber girl Victoria) and then saw Jesse incall and it was an OK time. I really don't think I will try this service any more...next up:nj exotics...

[DannyNJ]

Just saw on Ambers bulletin board that they hiked Samantha's rate to $300/hr. Seems like whenever they have a popular girl, the price goes up 50%. Beautiful girl, but I don't think so.

[Ambernj2001]

Originally posted by DannyNJ
Just saw on Ambers bulletin board that they hiked Samantha's rate to $300/hr. Seems like whenever they have a popular girl, the price goes up 50%. Beautiful girl, but I don't think so.

All UG guys can still pay regular rates.

We posted that on our site because some guys that went and saw her gave her phone #'s to places where she can make more...

We are just trying to make our good girls happy so they stay. At the same time we try and make you guys happy!

We also give our repeat guys 1/2 price breaks every now and then.

[Edited by Ambernj2001 on 11-06-2001 at 11:44 AM]

[DandyDon]

Amber, Thanks for the info. It's good to know that you and your ladies care enough about us (the UG guys) to make sure the same great services continue at the same rate. I hope to see you ir one of the other ladies soon. Don

[Ambernj2001]

Originally posted by DandyDon
Amber, Thanks for the info. It's good to know that you and your ladies care enough about us (the UG guys) to make sure the same great services continue at the same rate. I hope to see you ir one of the other ladies soon. Don

We now have some new girls.

Check out Maria she is a very good GFE. DFK, BBBJ ect.

P.S. In all fairness, we try to accomidate everybody. depiste some negative press. My name is sue Amber's is just a name. The girl Amber is not me. She just has same name and does not run place.

[sharked]

I've heard that at Ambers that the girls usually only go one cup but has anyone tried to get another cup for an extra tip? If so how much?
Recent good reviews have been making me re-think about trying them out.

[Thorn]

What can you tell me about Charlene?

Is she GFE and does she work incall?

Also, thanks for keeping a handle on prices for UG members.

I had no idea about that when I attempted to give an economics lesson to the guys on the A&F message board who were getting hot about the price raise. :)

[Edited by Thorn on 11-07-2001 at 02:10 AM]

[Ambernj2001]

Originally posted by Thorn
What can you tell me about Charlene?

Is she GFE and does she work incall?

Also, thanks for keeping a handle on prices for UG members.

[Edited by Thorn on 11-07-2001 at 02:10 AM]

Charlene is very GFE. Greek, DATY, DFK, BBBJ (tip for the TC ) Facials ect. Mater of fact i cant think of codes she dont know.

To tell you the truth her pics look better then she does.
she is 5 7 112 34b and close to 30 years old.

[sod]

Her pics look better than she does? This is an advertisement? I'm sure Charlene would love to read this about herself, especially from the keyboard of a co-worker.

[DandyDon]

I think what Sue meant to say was She looks much better than her pics!! (i hope)

Sue, I noticed that some of the ladies from last week are not in the site this week. Are you going to get any new ladies?

And i'm glad to see that Ashlen and Nikki are still around. Time and opportunity have not let me make an appointment with either one yet--but i'm hoping that will change soon.

[Phantom]

Sue,

A couple of questions for you.

1.You tell us in no uncertain terms just what activities Charlene and Maria will do. Some very explict and graphic terms (Greek, DATY, DFK, BBBJ (tip for the TC ) facials. Yet there is one question that has been asked and not answered.

Do the ladies you employ provide a one shot, you cum I go type session or are multiple shots on goal allowed during the course of the hour?

2. Since you have stated that you will hold the line on rate increases for UG members, one thinks that you must get a good chunk of business through UG. How about helping UG survive and place a banner or purchase ads here on UG?

[Ambernj2001]

Originally posted by sod
Her pics look better than she does? This is an advertisement? I'm sure Charlene would love to read this about herself, especially from the keyboard of a co-worker.

Well i rather tell you guys this now so when you go see Poor Charlene you dont post Thread and say we played with her pics to make her look better.

I just went everyone to be happy. I am trying to honest.

[Ambernj2001]

Originally posted by Phantom
Sue,

A couple of questions for you.

1.You tell us in no uncertain terms just what activities Charlene and Maria will do. Some very explict and graphic terms (Greek, DATY, DFK, BBBJ (tip for the TC ) facials. Yet there is one question that has been asked and not answered.

Do the ladies you employ provide a one shot, you cum I go type session or are multiple shots on goal allowed during the course of the hour?

2. Since you have stated that you will hold the line on rate increases for UG members, one thinks that you must get a good chunk of business through UG. How about helping UG survive and place a banner or purchase ads here on UG?

Phantom, I will by banners right now. Just e-mail contact # to ambernj2001@aol.com and i will call and talk to whoever sets it up.

As for the cups, I tell the girls that they should work this out with the guys. If a guy calls me and says " sue i want to see whoever but i want 2 cups" i will work it out for you. I am learning most of the needs of my guys so i try to take care of things before they go.

[Phantom]

Sue,

Slinkybender@utopiaguide.com

[DandyDon]

Phantom, What the hell is Alabaster?? And another general question--is there any rhyme or reason to the "bronze,silver,gold"

And to answer my own question--No, I didn't get to see any provider on Tuesday, unfortunately.

[Phantom]

Alabaster?

I have no f***ing idea! For an answer to that question you might to inquire of the APM.

[Phantom]

Silver is 100 posts.

Gold is 500 posts.

[justme]

alabaster - 1. A translucent white or tinted gypsum used especially for carving 2. A translucent often banded variety of calcite.

vinyl - black gold.

[Phantom]

I thought oil was black gold?

[justme]

What are you, a Texan?

[Phantom]

No, are you a New Yorker?

[justme]

Nope (although I did do a year in Bensonhurst in 1980)

[Phantom]

justme,

Ever take an Asian provider to the Rainbow Room?

[justme]

Nope.

[justme]

Heh, now it really is black 'gold'.

Jeez, 500 posts in 341 days.

[Phantom]

Just a shot in the dark. Since you had once mentioned a screen name of mine that hardly anyone knows, I just thought that you might be someone I once corresponded with quite frequently and is from your neck of the woods.

Someone I once took to dinner in Ruth Chris's steak hous in NYC.

[Edited by Phantom on 11-07-2001 at 04:41 PM]

[justme]

Jeez, Phantom, I find it hard enough to keep up with all your screen names from here and JAG.

(Don't show your hand so quickly, the Texan thing was poking fun of my own residence... I don't have a clue about that Texas mailing list).

[Thorn]

OK, first Phantom, then Willy, now he's starting to sound like Slinky.

[getting ready to duck] :)

[Thorn]

Sue,

What, Phantom is driving at but going the long way round to get there, is the "Hour is an hour" thing.

What many of the agencies do, having taken a note from the pages of the many independants who started the practice, is promise that the session price purchases an hour of the Lady's time.

Within that hour the client can have multiple "cups", or draw out a single one. [geeze, "cups"... I hate that euphemism... we are adults who talk openly about sex with short cuts that refer to blow jobs {BJ's}, cunnilingus {DATY} and myriad other bits of business but we reduce our references to orgasms to "cups of coffee ???]

Hell, they can drop water balloons out the window as the provider looks on, if that is what they want to do. Anything within the range of services provided for one hour.

It does have its advantages. For the john, obviously he knows exactly what he is getting for his money. One hour of time to spend with the Lady in question, working within her [hopefully understood before the session starts] range of activities.

For the Lady and the Agency it means that booking becomes less of a nightmare because a session always lasts one hour, whether the client gets off once, twice or thrice [almost unheard of].

Regardless of the time allowed most clients will go once and that's it. This creates some down time within the hour session. This down time is used by the client to "glow" a little in the Lady's company... increasing a feeling of connection between client and provider, creating favorites and, by extension, repeat customers. Meanwhile, the provider [at least the smart ones] also use the time to decompress between clients so they feel mentally able to deal with the next one.

Since, for the Agency, an hour is always an hour, scheduling becomes more efficent. As you know exactly how long a provider is going to be with a client. With a little practice it means that you can tell a client that a provider will be ready at "X" hour [the biggest knock I have heard against your agency is long waits past stated meeting times], and she really will be. Thus improviing client satisfaction, and creating repeat business.

The comments above are provided not as a negative against your agency. Frankly, I have personally heard far more good things about you then bad.

There is a lack of quality service in the N.NJ area and I'd truly like to see you succeed. So the above suggestions are presented with only the best of intent and the hope that you will do well.

Respectfully I close wishing you just that... that you will do well. :)

[Phantom]

Thorn,

Very well said. Do not disagree with anything you said.

[Ambernj2001]

I understand what you say and have no problem with that. When we hire our girls we tell them a hr is a hr and like D & D's free refills on cups of coffee.

Some of our girls never use a PC or even no what online is. So some have no idea about reviews. I tell them and explain how important it is, and some get it like ( Jesse Lisa Samatha Charlene to name a few ) and then dont get it ( Victoria Violet April ) to name a few.

My point is they know to give as many cups as you can take. But if you come accross that girl that gives you a hard time just let me know.

We try to get new faces in every week for you guys and you know we will get a lemon once in a while. Lemon= a girl that tells us she is great and gfe ect and is a asshole to the guys.
Thanks
Sue
Also we talked to Allen and i am sure you all will be happy to here that we now support UG very well.
I will let Allen tell you the rest!

[Phantom]

Originally posted by Ambernj2001
Also we talked to Allen and i am sure you all will be happy to here that we now support UG very well. I will let Allen tell you the rest!

THANK YOU SUE!

[Ambernj2001]

And if i can help you with anything just let me know.

[Thorn]

I hear ya. I also understand.

There are some things you can do about that. They wouldn't be 100% successful but what they would do:

1) You'd be able to work around the fact that not every woman that has ever worked for an agency has completed high school, and has the ins and outs of business down cold.

2) The agency and the women both would increase their earning potential. And that is the idea, after all. yes?

3) You wouldn't feel bad letting someone go, because you knew you gave them all the info they needed to not have that be the case.

What I talking about are ideas like this:

1) You have incall locations. You take on a Lady, don't let her handle outcall immediately. Have her work incall first in a place where the person running the show can politely pull the john aside and get, though polite conversation, a quick notion as to how the hour session went. [Julie, a very successful madam and very popular with her clients as well, uses exactly this method as one of the ways she knows who to keep, who to let go, and who can be helped into doing better, for herself and for Julie]

If there is no way to do that on location, let the guys know that you WANT them to call you some time after a session and let you know how it went. Let the Ladies know that this is house policy. That should go a long way to getting the result you want.

2) Instruction has to be done in such a way as to be effective. Simply telling someone that 'A, B, C" is expected from them doesn't always work. Showing them how "A, B. C" with make them happier in the wallet because they will have more return customers is usually more effective.

That is usually done by having a new person work along side of another who is already successful and let the new person see how well the more experienced person does by working a certain way.

Exactly how you do that in your situation.... well, I'd have to work on it but I am sure something creative could be figured out.

There are other things... but this is getting long and besides... I might be telling you things you already know. :) Hell, I could be speaking to a grad level business degree holder from Brown, for all I know. :)



[Edited by Thorn on 11-08-2001 at 02:14 PM]

[DandyDon]

Thorn, WOW! Great info and ideas. I think you could probally run a GREAT house!!

Sue, If you want feedback from every visit, all you have to do is ask here on UG. I'm sure you will get all the information you need.

I really like the "PIT" (Provider In Training) idea. This would accomplish two things: First, it would get all the new ladies on the right track and Second, you could charge a more for 2 providers!! Maybe 1 1/2 times the normal fee??

[nycguy1967]

Why not make it a lottery for a lucky customer who gets two - mentor and trainee - for the price of one! I'm sure no one would object to the question: "Do you mind is my friend joins us? On the house."

Of course a *nice* tip would be "de rigeur". As a measure, Julie's doubles are 125 more than a single . . . (as Wilford Brimley says: it's the right thing to do and a nice way to do it).

Didn't one of the last reviews of "she who got in trouble with her parents" (name withheld by popular demand) reveal that one of our ranks was fortunate in just this way? she was training her friend . . .

[Casper]

Originally posted by Phantom
I thought oil was black gold?

Let me tell you a little story about a man named Jed ..........




[Edited by Casper on 11-09-2001 at 12:53 AM]

[Casper]

I'll be a JIT is that helps out any.

Peace out
C

[nashman]

Thorn,

Excellent post!

[Edited by nashman on 11-09-2001 at 02:09 AM]

[tomahawk9]

Amber/Sue-
Jesse looks great and I have wanted to see her for a long time but word is your place is short on service (bait-and-switch, unaccountable lateness, 40-minute hours).
Some time ago I was ripped off badly and swore to myself not to get into that situation again. This is not a request for a discount-how does a guy know he'll get what he pays for?

[Ambernj2001]

Tomahawk if you want to see Jesse call me ask for me. Jesse will give you a full hr as many cups and is very GFE BBBJ DATY ect.

Ask Robnotbob he has seen Jesse and posted a nice review

[tomahawk9]

Amber/Sue-
Thanks for your help. I hope to be calling you soon-remember my name (tomahawk9).

[Thorn]

Tomahawk..

I'd be the first one to lamblast a bad place. I don't have any first hand experience with "Amber's" yet. I do know what I have read.

No complaints of bait and switch. No complaints of bad service, vis-a-vie everyone accept Violet, who no longer works for them.

The only knock I've seen, and fairly consistantly, is that they can be a tad unorganized. Meaning, if you set up a session for 3:30 pm, you might not see the girl until 4pm-4:15pm, and the like.

Sue has been very open to the notions we've been putting forth here on UG. Amber's, as a business, appears to be very customer service oriented.

Its a relatively new service. So, give them a chance to shake out. I think their potential is high and, with any luck, we'll wind up with a first class agency in Norther NJ when all is said and done.

[Edited by Thorn on 11-11-2001 at 12:08 AM]

[DannyNJ]

If I set up a 3:30 meeting and saw the girl at 4:15, I would have been perfectly happy.

[Slinky Bender]

It's a common problem in dealing with a consumer business. If one in a hundred customers gets "screwed up", it sounds great.

Unless of course, you're the one in a hundred. While "their" batting average of "successes" might be .990, "your" batting average for "failures" is 1.000, and that's all any one particular person cares about, isn't it ? ( I mean, I would think it's nice if all my friends like a place, but what I really care about is if I like the place ).

Now, this leads to an important point: if you're looking for any business which doesn't screw up, you'll never find one. What differentiates them ( separates the men from the boys, the wheat from the chaff, etc. ) is how they handle things when they do screw up.



[Edited by slinkybender on 11-11-2001 at 03:11 AM]

[ew]

Thorn, there have been allegations of bait and switch and poor service on TER for this service.

[DannyNJ]

Slinky is absolutely correct - the big differentiator is how they handle it when they do screw up. In my particular case, after having driven a long way and been jerked around for hours TWICE, they emailed me and offered me two free sessions to make up for it. That's excellent customer service.

EXCEPT - when I drove there again to try to claim one of those free sessions, I got jerked around again for several hours and still never got an appointment. That's shitty customer service.

[Gunszzzzz]

...no disrespect to Tomahawk or whoever else had a good session with Amber's service, but to hear DannyNJ get shit on more than once by the same business is despicable.

I'm not trying to suck up, but since I trust DannyNJ's posts from JAG and here, I don't think that he has an axe to grind--whatever that phrase means--and b/c of that, I'll never use Amber's service.

and I was just starting to trust what sue was saying, too.....

[tomahawk9]

Thank you all for your thoughts. One of Jessie's photos is tempting enough to get me past concerns having to do with common sense or anything else.

[robnotbob]

Tomahawk: set up an appt with Jessie. She is a doll.

[tracker_12345]

I have seen several girls at this agency and found that they run a very good service. Although I have run into Victoria and had a horrible session, it was really my fault I didn't listen to the reviews. All the other girls I have seen have been nothing short of spectacular. Here are some highlights:

Samantha - she is a little hottie....alot smaller than I imagine from the pics but worth every penny....BBBJ and FS

Jesse - saw her twice, just keeps getting better and better...BBBJ and FS

Lisa - saw her twice, even tho her rates went up she has got the hottest body I've ever seen..PSE..CBJ....FS

Amy - nice girl tried her out on Sue's advice...I just didn't bring my A game that day...CBJ...FS

Savanna - this was the first girl I saw at this agency so I was big time nervous, but I paid for the hour and only got 20 minutes...she is definite hottie...would like another crack at this one....CBJ...FS

Sue keep up the good work...you've got a lifetime customer here.....how do you feel about lifetime memberships...after a certain number of visits every one is free...LOL...I wish.

[thevenerablebede]

has anyone used amber and friends for outcall???

[Escort_King]

They just started.....

[Evil_Twin]

I had the pleasure of seeing Samantha this evening. She is every bit as enjoyable as mentioned in other reviews. I can't wait for round two.

[Thorn]

Gunzzzzz....

This is coming from the prospective of an... oh, lets call me an 'elder statesman' of whoring.

I say that just to let you know I'm no new kid on the block.

Its from that prospective that I can tell you that I never questioned Danny's veracity as to his telling of the situation he experienced.

I've never found any of his posts to be over inflated and lacking in his ability to be candid with his thoughts.

What I would do different, if I were he, having invested the time [and hearing what others had to say about services being offered] is contact Sue and politely push the issue.

Frankly, I think Sue owes Danny one [maybe two]. Also, frankly, from what I hear of Sue and the rest of Amber's admin core, they are highly likely to make good on it. Which might lead to a session or two well worth having.

Given the odds, if I were a gambling man [and I am] I'd put a few bob on it to win. :)

Danny, why don't you try exactly that and DO PLEASE let us know how it turned out. I know I would be curious to see to what extent they went to make you a happy customer.

[Ambernj2001]

Originally posted by Thorn
Gunzzzzz....

This is coming from the prospective of an... oh, lets call me an 'elder statesman' of whoring.

I say that just to let you know I'm no new kid on the block.

Its from that prospective that I can tell you that I never questioned Danny's veracity as to his telling of the situation he experienced.

I've never found any of his posts to be over inflated and lacking in his ability to be candid with his thoughts.

What I would do different, if I were he, having invested the time [and hearing what others had to say about services being offered] is contact Sue and politely push the issue.

Frankly, I think Sue owes Danny one [maybe two]. Also, frankly, from what I hear of Sue and the rest of Amber's admin core, they are highly likely to make good on it. Which might lead to a session or two well worth having.

Given the odds, if I were a gambling man [and I am] I'd put a few bob on it to win. :)

Danny, why don't you try exactly that and DO PLEASE let us know how it turned out. I know I would be curious to see to what extent they went to make you a happy customer.


We Offered him 2 Free sessions on us.. And we are more then happy to let him come... With the girl of his choice.. When ever he wants.. Dannynj did have a real bad expierence unfortunly and we want to make it up too him..So all he has to do is e-mail us or call.... Thanks Sue

[DannyNJ]

Thorn,

When the first 2 of my visits turned out to be runarounds, I sent a detailed email to them expressing my anger. They responded with a very apologetic email, and offered me two free sessions. They said "this will never happen to you again".

I chose a day to take them up on the offer. They told me not to drive up to North NJ until they were sure when she was coming in. At 2:00, I was told she would be in at 3:30 so I took the ride.

At 3:30 she was not in yet. She would be in at 4:30.
I waited an hour.

At 4:30 she was not in yet.
I waited.

At 5:00 she was not in yet. She would be in at 6:00.
I waited.

At 6:00 she was not in yet. She would be in at 7:00.
I waited.

I called back at 7:00, was told that she came in at 6:30. I was told that since they had no number to call me, they had booked her with another client and it was a 2 hour appointment. Even though they knew that I had called every 1/2 hour, was waiting, and was told that she would be in at 7:00.

Keep in mind this was my THIRD time trying to see her. I don't want you to think that I didn't give them a fair try. I think I was more than patient.

I see a lot of positive reviews above (although many of them seem to be from brand new members) so if it works for other members, great. At this point, there is no offer they could make to get me to drive an hour up there again.

[Ambernj2001]

Well Dannynj that is your choice. If you change your mind call me.

[Humble Narrator]

First, I would point out that I am not a new member. Second, while perhaps not quite the "elder statesman" that my comrade Thorn is, I do think I am an impartial, objective (as much as is possible) and fair reviewer. I also try dilligently to make my reviews as dispassionate as I can, leaving the rhetoric to others more qualified (You know who you are).

Having said all the above, I have to say that my experiences with A&F are above average compared to other agencies. Several months ago there was some conflict over a person who had previously worked for A&F and who was publicly airing some dirty laundry. Sue and I had a lengthy AIM correspondence and I felt she was being mostly fair in her treatment of the subject.

Jump ahead to a few weeks ago: I finally book with Sam and have an incredible time. The admin staff at A&F went out of their way to keep me up-to-date with her status for that day, given that she wasn't really scheduled to start early enough to fit my schedule. They were clearly trying their best. The result: a fabulous time for me.

So, bottom line for me is that they are doing right by me. Now, if I am Danny I have to be pretty bummed out, but if they just can't meet his needs, it's time to move on. I would not continue to flood this or other threads with the same information. If Danny is trying to warn others about potentially lacking service, he has done so already. Anyone searching the posts for info on A&F will get his viewpoint many times over.

So, how does this end? If Danny is convinced he can't get what he wants, why continue the discussion?

[justme]

Maybe it's cause I'm petty, but when I get bad service (and if what happened, happened the way Danny describes he got some pretty bad service) I tend to be very vocal about it at every opportunity I can get.

[DannyNJ]

HN - I agree with your post, and I really hadn't planned to post anymore but I was merely responding to Thorn's statements. I don't want to harp on about it... was just trying to share info about the unfortunate experience in an effort to warn others. Case Closed.

[Evil_Twin]

I have used Amber's service five times and never had any problems getting together with the girl. I had to wait one time because I arrived a half hour early. Sometimes the phone is busy for 5 or 10 minutes, but that is the only inconvenience I ever experienced. I was not totally satisfied with all the girls, one is no longer there, but I never had any problems with the service.