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burgoyne
09-27-2001, 03:54 AM
as usual great massage, clean place,steam bath,sauna and great experience overall I recommend it highly

jaydevice
09-27-2001, 01:28 PM
went to WGS last week. have been a few times, this trip was unusual as I was given two cups of coffee, one at begining, one at end. the woman was sophie.

in addition, during both cups, she sort of hid me from view of window with sheet. hadn't experienced this before. this precaution made me paranoid that they are worried about something.

clyde
09-28-2001, 09:02 AM
Did you ask for the 2 cups to begin with? How did you avoid going belly down for the first part of the massage?

bigdoggie
09-28-2001, 09:11 AM
I have received two cups at WSG too(by Helen). She seemed very pleased that I had requested an appointment with her and was happy to oblige when I started on my back with a big grin on my face.

jaydevice
09-28-2001, 09:53 AM
Didn't ask for two cups. The first was poured immediately. I thought, this is going to be a short visit, she's trying to rush me out. Then I got the massage, I thought, okay, backwards protocol day, I'll go with it. Then to my surprise she offered the second. Second surprise was that it took little effort for me to drink the second cup, a tribute to her skill.

jaydevice
09-28-2001, 10:10 AM
some speculation.

1. sophie just does that
2. it was 10:30PM, maybe there was no time for someone after me, but enough time to give me extra attention in hopes of a good tip
3. they always ask who you've seen before. I said tina 4X. perhaps she was trying to win me as one of her regulars.

try strategies 2&3, or just ask for two cups... good luck

amaxxx
09-28-2001, 01:05 PM
i've gotten 2 cups from Mimi - who i was consistently requesting, but have been told she's "on vacation"- sadly, methinks she may be gone

clyde
10-01-2001, 09:20 AM
Thanks for the suggestions. I usually just go in and lay face down to start. I guess that it seems a little wierd to me to go face up to start because what if they don't get the hint.

On another note, I usually just go into WGS and take who they give me. Can you set up an appointment with a particular girl? Do you just go in and ask for someone?

I miss Diamond.

bigdoggie
10-01-2001, 09:30 AM
you can definitely call and request an appointment with a particular girl (and the girl typically loves it)

bl881
10-01-2001, 11:48 AM
Hi I am interested in going to West Garden. Where are they located and do you have a number?

jaydevice
10-01-2001, 01:11 PM
all info at westgardenspa.com

Buck
10-01-2001, 03:23 PM
YMMV- Saw Tina for the standard two cups, I thought it was just me who got this extra.

Second cup allowed free roaming with shirt up and bra down. I am soon going to ask for the "french" finish to my massage.

Escort_King
10-01-2001, 04:52 PM
Okay they get the $75 when you go in... are you tipping upfront to start coffee service or do they free pour and wait for tip at end? and what would be good number?

Escort_King
10-03-2001, 12:13 PM
Was fixed up with Cindy... a little older but great flat stomach, nice tits (tasty too)... one HJ but lasted 20 minutes with a lot of blowing and ball rubbing... had a few drinks last night...
So while she worked her magic I groped like a champion.... was fun and the facilities are great... table shampoo... sauna, steam room, good showers.... all products including brand new toothbrushes and disposable razors.... definitely the touch of class in the industry

burgoyne
10-03-2001, 12:29 PM
hey king did she realy allow you to grope her??

jaydevice
10-03-2001, 05:24 PM
two cups with tina, buck, standard?

I must have low standards cause I'm only gettin' one... we'll see about this

Escort_King
10-04-2001, 03:53 PM
Hey what can I say my hands wander.... between the legs over the clothes... shirt up, bra off... sucked tits...

Buck
10-08-2001, 02:53 PM
J..D,

2 cups... back to back. I seem to have the other problem in comparison to Escort King. The first cup is very quick.....maybe she feels bad for me. Good luck!!

rookiexy
10-11-2001, 03:54 PM
Here is my review of WGS. Made appointment for 11pm midweek. Many cops on the street including one right in front of door. Maybe due to a concert nearby rather than patrol of area. Walk in, Great facility, very clean, looks professional. Asked for Edna based on review. Many guys in the locker room but I don't care. Table shower very relaxing, everything going well. Go up to room, more massage. Great massage, feels like a real therapist. After a long massage I ask if I can turn over. I’m told later baby. OK. After another 10 minutes I’m told to turn over. Doesn’t massage the soldier. I assure her that its ok. She says NO!! I say it’s ok I’ve been here before. She says you are not ready (soldier was not up) Guys you know sometimes the massage is so relaxing he falls asleep but just needs a little touch to wake up. I gently rub her arm and hand to lead her. She pushes my hand away and moves. At this point I'm very dissapointed b/c after a great session I don't want this hassle and confrontation. Eventually she starts the finish in a very mechanical way with the only goal of finishing the session. She got her wish then left me in the room with the door open and me exposed. She left twice by the way, both times leaving door open.

Guys I saw some younger girls walking around but did not get any names. Can you tell me the name of some of these younger ones?

I like the facilities, I'm just hoping that my experience was not the norm.

mars
10-12-2001, 07:21 AM
After reading all the good reviews about WGS, I decided to give it a try. I called ahead and after asking if Sophie (based on previous review) was working, made an appointment for 1pm on a weekday. The facilities were great and clean and I took advantage of the sauna. I was asked to go to the shower room and was given a quick, but thorough, washdown. I informed the attendant (her name was Grace) I had an appointment with Sophie.
I was then guided (by Grace) to a nice clean massage room, and told that there was no Sophie. Grace said she never heard of a Sophie before and asked if I wanted someone else. Trying to remember some names from the postings here, I asked for Tina. She was busy. I asked for Helen. She was working nights. So, I just took Grace.
The massage was average. I was asked if I wanted to start on my back or on my front. From the previous posts, this sounded promising, so of course I started on my back! It wasn't long until she had my full attention and her efforts were directed to my soldier till completion. She asked me to turn over and she massaged my back. Then to my surprise, she asked if I wanted to have my front massaged again. I turned over and she massaged my body from head to toe and once again had me standing at attention. Then to my disappointment, she said the massage was over! Man, was I ever disappointed. I was so close and then off she went for a hot towel.
I guess I have to give this place another try. Based on previous posts, I really thought it was going to be a new experience for me inasmuch as I was ready for the second round of her attention, but unfortunately, it didn't happen.

mars

ny_dc_bl
10-12-2001, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by *********
I have received two cups at WSG too(by Helen). She seemed very pleased that I had requested an appointment with her and was happy to oblige when I started on my back with a big grin on my face.

I've been there twice but only had one cup each time. But, I think I know how this works with Helen and Sophie (I've seen them both).

When helen lead me into the massage room, she helped me take my robe off and immediatly checked my johnson. I wasn't at attention and she told me to get on my back. I'm thinking that if the johnson was up she probably would have wanted to relax me first.

just a thought.
What times were all of you there when you got the 2 cups?

jaydevice
10-12-2001, 06:10 PM
rookiexy and mars... sorry your experiences didn't pan out the way they have for others.

Mars, it was Sophie, a small chance Sophia, but don't think so.

Dunno how to explain the change. Maybe pollicies are changing. Hope not.

mars
10-14-2001, 06:22 AM
No problem, jaydevice. It's just that the receptionist should have said something to me when I called and made the appointment, especially after reading how busy they are all the time.

mars

karloff57
10-14-2001, 07:42 AM
I've been to WGS a couple of times, and had two very different experiences. The first time was a Saturday afternoon, and the place was empty. I saw Helen, and while I only was offered one cup, it was unrushed and my hands were allowed to roam underneath her shirt and sports bra. All in all, a pleasant experience. My second and last visit was a couple of months ago. It was a weekday night and the place was packed -- I had to wait in line with a bunch of other dudes for the pre-massage scrub. Then I was assigned a masseuse. I don't remember the girl's name, but she was Puerto Rican. The first part of the massage (face down) was typical, then when I turned over, she kept looking at the window in the door, even before doing anything. She leaned to massage my shoulders first, rubbing her front against my special friend, which seemed like a promising start, but I think she may have been trying to block the window view. She pointed at my special friend and I nodded, and she began coffee service. She let my hand roam up her shirt. Then someone walked by the door and she quickly pulled away, massaging my leg instead. This happened several times, she'd see or hear something, stop service, and go look out the window or out the door, then come back for a few seconds. Finally, she squirted a bunch of massage oil on me, gave two yanks and said firmly "all done." I didn't insist on a finish, figuring maybe LE was in the house. She handed me my robe and pointed me to the showers, which I needed to get all that oil off. Anyway, I paid and got the hell out, and haven't been back.

rookiexy
10-14-2001, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by jaydevice
rookiexy and mars... sorry your experiences didn't pan out the way they have for others.

Mars, it was Sophie, a small chance Sophia, but don't think so.

Dunno how to explain the change. Maybe pollicies are changing. Hope not.


Thanks Jaydevice!! but I'm not willing to give up on this place yet. Like I said, the facilities were great and the massage was relaxing. Everything perfect until I started getting hassled. Can you suggest any younger girls there? I saw a few walking around.

clyde
10-15-2001, 07:57 AM
Haven't had the pleasure of 2 cups but Tina is definitely a treat.

Escort_King
10-15-2001, 05:18 PM
Dropped by Sunday afternoon.. they were busy so had to wait a little while... didn't mind receptionist got me a soda and I put the TV on and watched the Jets game.
Another guy came in to wait... not much of a talker.... asked how he heard of the place thinking he may be someone from here... but said he had read about it in paper.
Eventually Mimi came and got me... no two cups... but the great massage... and the one cup was good... then a little sauna and a shower and I was ready to hit the city for the night. Nothing like getting that first cup of coffee before venturing out... takes away that hungry look that can scare women..lol... nothing worse than trying to pick up a woman at a bar while you drool...

jaydevice
10-16-2001, 06:51 PM
rookiexy

tenacity, an under valued virtue!

I've only seen tina, mimi and sophi/sophia... tina was probably the youngest at 27 or 28. She can be a bit chatty but has been a sure fire bet for myself and, it sounds like, others. FYI: I've found she has no medium level massage. Light is fingertips, hard is real hard.

I've seen those younger girls too. Always on my way to a massage room with someone else.

rookiexy
10-23-2001, 03:46 PM
Paid a visit to WSG last week. Asked for Sophia. Very nice massage and finish. Nice and relaxing and no hassle this time. This place has a new regular. One caveat: If you are a guy who doesn't like to be seen by other guys, this is not the place for you. Both times I;ve been there, other guys were there and they don't make any attempt to hide anyone. I don't care b/c chances are I've read one of your posts and don't even know it. Happy Hunting!!

fixed
10-31-2001, 01:07 PM
Hi all. Well I took all of your advice and went to WGS. It was the best massage I ever had. It was pretty empty today and being a newbie I showered first. Then the girl gave me a table shower and after that was a massage by Sue. Sue walked on my back! It was great. It seemed like forever that she was massaging me. Finally she turned me over. Sadly only one cup of coffee and she didn't get comfortable, but that was OK. All in all a great experience. I got there at 1:15 and when the massage was done it was 2:30 and I still had a subway ride back to work! I wish I could have stayed to use the sauna. Maybe next time.

I didn't pay the fee until I left. I was never rushed or hassled , just a great experience. Do any of you have a recomendation for a specific girl. I'm looking for a little more than HR and for the girl to get comfortable and let me play a little.
Thanks again,
fixed

biggod
10-31-2001, 01:52 PM
fixed,

It was empty because the place was busted twice already. You got lucky but be careful next time news on the NY spa board.

clyde
11-06-2001, 10:22 AM
My regular girl at WGS is Tina but I'm looking for suggestions for when she is off (Tues. and Sat.). I've heard that Helen and Sophie are good. Any thoughts???

BTW, saw Tina yesterday and got the usual great service. I was incredibly sore from the NYC marathon and she took great care of me.

jaydevice
11-06-2001, 11:04 AM
Call me a wuss, but the couple busts have scared me off.

The names you mention are the only I can remember.

biggod
11-06-2001, 12:21 PM
Are some of the girls from the old diamond spa on 48th street???

jaydevice
11-06-2001, 10:51 PM
Dunno.

MrNY
11-15-2001, 06:01 PM
What a wonderful experience I had today at WGS.....

THREE (that's right, 3 cups) and a fabulous massage..

$75 to the house - $75 (yeah, I'm a big tipper) to my new little Mexican girlfriend - All on the way out.

I think the key is to get a room UPSTAIRS - It's much quieter and there are no interuptions

But, who did I see there ??

There must have been 10 guys there in that 1-2:#0 timeframe - come on, speak up !!!

P.S. Ya gotta love how the massueses just wander through the locker room and shower areas..

MrNY

Bill Furniture
11-15-2001, 07:57 PM
Please describe the Mexican girl.

MrNY
11-15-2001, 08:05 PM
22 years old

bronze-complexion

GREAT toosh !

33b-22-34

long curly hair

massage was a 8/10 - mainly a body rub with attention to some knots

un-eventful table shower - although she did she that I was happy to be there

very friendly
enthusiastic
accomdating (wow, that's a vague thing to say)

Bill Furniture
11-16-2001, 05:31 AM
Thanks, 3 cups huh?

donniebnyx
11-16-2001, 09:47 AM
My first try yesterday at about 4pm. Just walked in and was given Mimi.

She started on my back and then told me to turn over. She went right to work on Mr. Johnson.

I started to roam and she smiled but was kept outside the shirt. Hey, I tried.

After my one cup, she finished the massage which BTW was great. Overall it was an 8/9.

I have a question: I paid on the way out and before I could ask about the tip was handed a little purse with Mimi's name on it. I put the tip in and left.

Is this normal procedure? I have to admit I was a little weirded out.

MrNY
11-16-2001, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by Bill Furniture
Thanks, 3 cups huh?

She accomodated - but, it was ALL me ... ;)

MrNY
11-16-2001, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by donniebnyx

I have a question: I paid on the way out and before I could ask about the tip was handed a little purse with Mimi's name on it. I put the tip in and left.

Is this normal procedure? I have to admit I was a little weirded out.

I kinda like that.......

My gal just kinda stood there and smiled at me while i paid at the front desk - that was a bit uncomfortable - being handed a little purse was a nice touch (depends how you look at it, i guess)...

Slinky Bender
11-16-2001, 11:21 AM
How much was in the purse when they handed it to you ????

jaydevice
11-16-2001, 01:14 PM
how much was left when you handed it back?

MrNY
11-16-2001, 03:30 PM
Did it match your outfit ?

Troutman
11-16-2001, 03:48 PM
Was it a strap-on or a clutch?

MrNY
11-16-2001, 07:46 PM
did you leave a pearl necklace in it ?

roger56
11-16-2001, 11:19 PM
3 cups in an hour just by hr is mighty impressive...your right hand must be very proud, but does you left hand get jealous? before you get your panties in a bunch, i'm kidding so relax. i'm almost positive that i've talked to a few of you and don't mind all the people there as some have complained about--their money is just as good as mine and it's like being at the gym, but nobody works out. i do, however, mind when a group of obnoxious fat-ass guys walk in, talking loudly and walking around like they own the joint. one of them had the nerve to look at me today and ask "what are you looking at buddy?" since i was glaring at him to shut up since we were all in the steamroom and he was talking non-stop to the other guido in there--made me want to go back to my locker, get my fed cr****tials and ask him to say that to me again, but that wouldn't be proper now would it? but what can i say, i love this place and the atmosphere. iguess my point is that for those of you who think wgs is your private spa, remember that you share it with others and respect people who are there since everyone's goal is to relax and get away from it all, even if it's just for an hour or two.

with that said, let me clue you guys in on a little tip which i'm sure most of you already know--going there past midnight makes for more interesting sessions.

MrNY
11-17-2001, 07:56 PM
P.S. No panties in a bunch here ...

And, as far as the guido's go, fu-get-a-boy-dit .....

----

Yes, 3 cups - one up front to unwind, one in the midst and another for the road... What can I say ?? I shoot fast, but I'm able to repeat ;)

Thanks for the "tip" !

robnotbob
11-19-2001, 07:27 AM
I knew you HAD it in you.....

MrNY
11-19-2001, 12:06 PM
Evidently, I DID ...

Unforntunately, I couldn't get "it" in HER

donniebnyx
11-20-2001, 06:57 AM
0
100
Nope, too dressy.
Clutch maybe. Strap-on not likely.
I wish!

Smithy
11-20-2001, 12:10 PM
Could someone list the top ladies at WSG and a brief description of the qualifications?

ahandshake
11-24-2001, 09:52 PM
I decided to try the West Garden Spa earlier this evening since I was in the area. I was surprised at the lack of customers since I always read about the crowds on this message board, but perhaps it was because it was 7:45 pm on a Saturday night after everyone was all tired out from holiday shopping?

Anyway, when I first got in there, I had to fill out a questionnaire, which was pretty much like a short doctor's office questionnaire... I was told to skip the contact info.

I was shown into the locker room area (nice lockers, shower area, etc... very clean and decent looking) and quickly got undressed. I took a quick shower and ended up just standing there waiting for about ten minutes.

My masseuse turned out to be a Japanese woman who introduced herself as Yuki. She was not drop-dead gorgeous, but she did have an attractive (in a cute sort of way) face. She looked to be in her late 20s or early 30s, but I really wasn't paying much attention. I guess I was just kind of nervous, this being my first time there.

Yuki led me into a dark room, lit only by a black light, and had me unrobe and lay down. She guessed it was my first time there (this was actually my first time in a massage parlor period) and told me to lay on my front (I was laying on my back by default).

She gave me a quick rubdown and then proceeded to the oil massage, which took up the rest of the session. She seemed well-trained, although she told me she was self-taught. She did a pretty good and thorough job on my back (at least a half hour spent there). Eventually, I was told to flip over.

At this point, she was massaging each leg, up and down, inside and out. When she finished both legs, she started rubbing down my abdomen, and then very quickly asked if I wanted it "there" (you know where :-). I said "Sure, why not?" and she let out a little laugh before proceeding to give me a great massage.

I quickly asked if I was allowed to touch her, and she seemed a little drawn back (I don't know if it was my imagination or not). She gave me an affirmative response so I proceeded to caress her on her arm and her back. It didn't take long for me to move to the front of her shirt, still on the outside. She didn't seem bothered at all about it, so I decided to try under the shirt down by her waist. She didn't seem to mind this, so I moved up a little bit more. As you can probably guess, she didn't seem to mind as I made my way up to her bra, eventually over it, eventually underneath it. She had HUGE nipples (I was dying to suck on them, but I didn't know if I should ask and I also couldn't think how it could logistically be done, although a few posters here say that they've been able to manage it... HOW???? :-) and I had quite a bit of fun playing around with them and the rest of her breasts as she brought me to my release with "ooo"s, "aaahhh"s and "oooohhhh"s, with a "yes yes" here and there and some "is it good?"s.

After I finished, she left to wash her hands and get me a hot towel, then proceeded to finish the oil massage on my upper body.

All in all, a great visit to a place with what I now know as a well-deserved reputation. I'm sure not every masseuse is great and accomodating, but I can assure you that Yuki is quite so. I will make sure that she is working the next time I visit, and I was hoping somebody on this board would have some advice as to how I would go about asking to be breastfed? :-)

Oh yeah, for those who want info on payment, I just gave them the $75 fee in cash. She was waiting out front when I came to pay and I handed her $40 in cash for a well-earned tip.

Smithy
11-27-2001, 10:39 AM
who would anyone reccommend at WSG? Do they take appointments?

Smithy
11-28-2001, 02:22 PM
can anyone help with some names here?

robneville
11-29-2001, 11:26 AM
Appointments aren't necessary - just go and have a good time. I haven't heard any complaints about any of the staff, so I wouldn't worry about who they assign to you. If you find someone you like, next time you can make an appointment for that person specifically, but for a first timer I'd just show up and relax.

JoeyP
12-01-2001, 01:36 PM
Saw Yung there this week. First time and was plesaed with facilities. She informed me that she was willing to spend much more time with Mr. Happy than most other girls there and I should ask for her.

Didn't ask for 2nd cup and went through the full massage program first. She was generally affectionate and warm. Her English was not too good and she asked for my help in pronouncing a few words.

How do they get busted twice and stay open? It makes me a little nervous. (I read this thread after I had already gone)

clyde
12-03-2001, 02:55 PM
I always suspected that the "house" took part of the lady's tip, so I started bringing it to the room recently. $45 always got me great service, but I went with $60 for the hell of it recently and, no surprise, it bought me a better session, complete with serious DFK througout the fun part of the session.

Lesson Learned -- you get what you pay for

davepc71
12-03-2001, 03:03 PM
Heh...being a regular there, one of them may have been myself, but something else kind of odd happened on that unusually crowded eve (the front desk even expressed concern about the noise levels and neighbors upstairs)...

Both before and after shower, I was placed in waiting in the room out front w/the TV! Both times, there were different people waiting...Something which has never happened to me there before...no longer than 5 minutes either time tho, but still...

This won't stop me from returning, but I would think that they should make mention upon arrival that there may be a bit of a wait....I know they don't want to turn away biz, but it was just a tad bit...off.

Just my report and .02 :) WGS is still at the top of my list.

--Dave

Originally posted by MrNY
What a wonderful experience I had today at WGS.....

THREE (that's right, 3 cups) and a fabulous massage..

$75 to the house - $75 (yeah, I'm a big tipper) to my new little Mexican girlfriend - All on the way out.

I think the key is to get a room UPSTAIRS - It's much quieter and there are no interuptions

But, who did I see there ??

There must have been 10 guys there in that 1-2:#0 timeframe - come on, speak up !!!

P.S. Ya gotta love how the massueses just wander through the locker room and shower areas..

MrNY

JoeyP
12-04-2001, 01:27 PM
I wonder if there is some kind of signal that we can inobtrusively give each other while waiting for the girls, to identify that we are from UG??

Any ideas??

MrNY
12-04-2001, 07:03 PM
Naked, in the shower, hopping up and down on your right foot, while whistling the Star Spangled Banner.....

Or, how about a Carol Burnett tug on the right ear ?

How about the old Finger/Nose wave from The Sting ?