When Whores backstab/badmouth other sexworkers

[billyS]

At first I thought a whore I know was only trying to save me money by giving me the low down on other providers. It started with Greek Girl. "No Billy, she is not your type." Then April, she was too old and had a drug habit. So these ladies I had planned on seeing I wound up skipping. Then I was all set to see Betty this winter and I was told at one point she weighted 300 lbs and then when my whore freind found out I was exchanging ******s with Betty and was pretty set to see her in Cherry Hill I was told her stomach is so big it makes her look eight month pregnant. Now I know you guys are all thinking that it is my fault for listening to her and you are right. I missed out on these ladies because I didn't see through my freinds game. It wasn't until this week when she offered to see me alone first, then me with a third party later in the week. When I was alone with her she refused to schedule the threesome and belittled me for spending so much time with the other girl. She went as far as to put down her looks, going into detail what she felt was sub-par about her body and face. It was then I realized that she just likes to put down other girls. I won't listen to her opinions again.

[betty_snj]

ohhh, that's why you didn't come to see me.
You should be honest about it Billy. I would not get mad at all.
See, I'm not thin, everyone knows that.
Neither perfect in any sense.
I hope the girl you're talking about is not someone from this board.
Because if it is, I will be very very disappointed.

[NOYL]

.

[betty_snj]

Well, I have to say I need to think about this now, because I am very disappointed.
:(

[Slinky Bender]

First *, now *?

[Slinky Bender]

Sorry, I think I meant O and O

[NOYL]

Billy, why don't you just name her?

[BigMadM]

billy, slinkys new section for questions on providers, iso's, is a great tool. If you post you want to know what a girl offers, or looks like, and is somewhere from the ny metro area, Ill jump in if I saw her and Ill post for you. Ive seen every girl you mentioned.
Sometimes, some girls are just overrated, and some girls are actually underated, if you get my drift.
Fuck them all, every last one of them, and then fuck them again.
Be your own judge, and library of facts.

[capitan]

Billy...

If you like oral sex, you owe it to yourself to see Betty, you will NOT be disappointed.

She is offering a special with Vanessa this coming week...these women are not thin runway models, but they are known for their oral skills...top rated, I should add.

I was hoping to join the two of them this coming week, but some unforseen serious expenses knocked me out of this game for a while.

Straight ahead,
Capy

[April]

Billy it was your loss. I mean what kind of drug addict am I supposed to be anyway? Enough guys here have seen me naked to see that I don't engage in any type of drug that would mark my body. I detest cocain, have been offered it many times and have ALWAYS declined. A few UG'ers can even verify that. I stopped hanging out and drinking almost a year ago. Now if I do an incall (2-3 days a month) I might have a glass of wine. I'm a pot smoker. I might even share in session but only if it's consensual like an orderve. Sorry I don't mean to shoot the messenger but first hbv alluded to the same crap and I'd like to know exactly where it is coming from. I know that there is not one person who can say that they have seen me do drugs or have done them with me and frankly I'm sick of the slander.

Billy you and I have always been cool (I thought) you need to follow your gut and instinct. Hopefully you have learned that at times people have agendas even if they seem to be looking out for you. Good luck in your choices in the future. One thing she was right about was I am old. I'm 35. As in 1968 not aol years either.

[h. von bingen]

it's hvb, get it right already.

[billyS]

Originally posted by April
Billy it was your loss.
I agree.
Originally posted by April

I mean what kind of drug addict am I supposed to be anyway? Heroin.
Originally posted by April

Billy you and I have always been cool (I thought)
We are. I didn't bring this up to re-hash old shit about you but rather to point out to my brother mongers that you can't always trust girls to be honest with you when you ask them about other girls. I just thought that needed to be pointed out.
Originally posted by April

you need to follow your gut and instinct.
Yes I do, thats better advice then your 'friend' gave me.

[Kimmie]

Some words of advice..

1. Trust NO ONE...

2. Beware of wolves in sheeps clothing...

3. There are two sides to every story.. His, hers, and the truth...

Also, most importantly,

4. Do not believe anything you read on a pmb by a scorned JOHN.

[curious]

Geez, and to think they'd been so sympatico.

[Spaz Medicine]

Originally posted by Kimmie
3. There are two sides to every story.. His, hers, and the truth...


Isn't that three?

[h. von bingen]

no, it's 2 and the truth, isn't it?

[Spaz Medicine]

But isn't that still three sides then? (the two exaggerations and the truth)

[April]

What a bunch of bullshit. Funny thing is that all the girls this mystery provider mentioned are on this board which leads me to believe that the mystery provider is here also. I didnt want to even really get into this but since my reputation is at hand here (lol a hooker worrying about her rep!) anyone remember my place getting busted like 2 years ago? Well I took the promotion of pros rap and I also took probation, probation as in mandatory drug testing. I'm prescribed marinol because of a bought with cancer from a year ago and thats why I can get away with smoking weed. I'm sick of this board and I'm sick of this jealous bullshit.
I mean does anyone think I'd be stupid enough to do drugs especially that type of a drug in front of someone? Can anyone here even say they have EVER seen a mark on my body? Or even ingested it another way? Yeah , next it will be because I sniff it or something. I'm done here. So Billy I'm asking your "friend" to either put up or shut up.

[April]

Originally posted by Kimmie
Some words of advice..



4. Do not believe anything you read on a pmb by a scorned JOHN.


It wasn't a scorned John, it was a jealous hooker afraid of loosing business to probably better providers than herself.

[April]

Please ****** me at [*****]Aprilissickofthebullshit@verizon.net[/*****]



(slinkey you may now please ban me)

[FoxyMonica]

don’t let his hateful ass win !

you just made his day by asking to get banned , is what he lives for< to be disrespectful and spread lies. >he gets his thrills running off providers from this site . why to let him win ?

he does not have the compassion to understand that his lies affect a working girls lively hood , He might as well have his hand in your purse!!

he would not like it if someone fucked with his way to make a living . but then he is too stupid to understand it in that light .

or even care .

lol I am tired of bitching here all the time ! it is not even my style , something about this board just brings out the anger in people . I need to start posting on the fun threads.........the few and far between lol

let me start over lol Good morning UG !
xoxo

[billyS]

Monica, you're way off here and ths doesn't involve you.

[curious]

I'd be surprised if she read this thread before posting.

[FoxyMonica]

for the first time I agree with you .

I just get sick of seeing providers drop like files around here .

[FoxyMonica]

if a provider ever badmouths another you should always question her motive .

IMHO badmouthing other providers is a sure sign of jealousy.

and when a John bashes a provider when he has never had a date with her . one should question his motives as well .


ok all I stayed on the topic lol common sence reply here

oxox

[BigMadM]

Monica:

Alot of women(working) have come on and left this board and it had nothing to do with the responses they received from posting.
They entered this board and were met with nothing but warmth.
Its a bunch of horny old men and we welcome young, vivacious girls that want to fuck us for money, or better yet, free.
The problem arises when some girls decide to post things that are considered off color.
As funny as that sounds, even whore mongers find certain things off color and rude, and simply UNCALLED for, when it comes to posting on public message boards.
We may be alot of things, and I can only speak for myself, but I see no reason to tolerate hatred.
This is not really directed at you, so dont go off and take it personally.
Posting negative comments about a girl, as far as reviews, whether it be regarding her weight, looks, or attitude, well, deception is not greeted lightly, even with a bunch of old horny fuckers like us.
I remember the 6 or so months I saw Ana of LI post, she received nothing but compliments and jokes sent her way, all in fun.

[h. von bingen]

Originally posted by Spaz Medicine
But isn't that still three sides then? (the two exaggerations and the truth) no, i think a side implies a position. the truth is not a side, it just is. this begs the question i guess, does the objective truth even exist in that relating it requires an interpreter.

[April]

ok that didnt work, how about this?


e-,ail me at [*****]slinkyisstupid@verizon.net[/*****]


p.s. kimmie I'm not sure why you think Billy is making this up because he is mad at you. Either way I don't want to be part of any beef between the two of you so I;ll remove myself from the problem. BTW Kimmie this all came from your mouth not Billy's he never once mentioned your name. I'm not either, I just find it strange that you would ****** me that. What I find sad is I truly did consider you a friend. Just like you said in your ****** , there are no friends in this business, and like you I too am done.

pss. Kimmie if this pisses you off well then so sorry but when you have nothing to hide you dont have to worry about such things.

[curious]

WTF do you want to get banned for? Because one of your "sisters in the profession" stuck it to you? how is YOU getting booted going to solve anything?
I thought you were made of sterner stuff. And saner.

[curious]

On another note, I CAN'T wait to read the review(s) submitted by anyone who partakes of the forthcoming doubles sessions this week :p :D

(assuming they actually happen, natch)

[betty_snj]

Curious,

it is happening...and we're almost booked solid for it.

Unfortunately, I don't think you guys will see any reviews of it because the people we're seeing are mostly my regulars and they are big time lurkers.

Unless they want to brag that they were able to handle both of our voracious beings, lol.

Anyway, I never let myself influenced by what "he says" or "she says". I'm the kind of person who is very upfront and, when it involves myself, I always go to the center of the core to find out what's going on.
Then, I decide if the person and facts in question are worth me losing sleep over it.
Most of the time, it isn't and I just move on and don't sweat over small stuff. Life is too short to worry about other peoples agenda.
My motto is live and let live, respect to be respected.

[BigMadM]

Originally posted by betty_snj
Curious

Unless they want to brag that they were able to handle both of our voracious beings, lol.
.

If you add 3 or 4 more girls, Ill come over and brag. I need a challenge in my old age.

[betty_snj]

BMM,

you know, this week I had a guy requesting 4 girls.
He wanted me to get Vanessa, Karla and another for 6 hours.
Can you imagine that? 6 hours with 4 women?
Jesus, he would have to leave in a stretcher for sure :)

[BigMadM]

I once did an overnighter with 3 girls in AC. None of them were over 25.
My dream.
I ended up spending half the night in the bathroom, sick as a dog.
I guess the anticipation did me in.

[Cloud Nine]

glad I'm not moderating anymore...

[pjorourke]

Originally posted by Cloud Nine
glad I'm not moderating anymore... Maybe slinky slept in this morning.

[Cloud Nine]

Maybe?! I'm surprised to see if he ever posts before 1030am.

[Cloud Nine]

Tip for Spammers:

Post your unpaid ad after 2am and get maxium exposure until it gets deleted at 11am.

[betty_snj]

Originally posted by Cloud Nine
glad I'm not moderating anymore...

I don't think I broke any rules...not promoting anyone here.

[pjorourke]

Betty, I don't think he was referring to you.

[Cloud Nine]

I wasnt referring to your post betty, I was refferring to the suicide posts and the personal nature this thread has taken.

[FoxyMonica]

BMM I do understand what you posted lol a man that speaks perfect board english ! :)


guess it did not take to long to get this thread moved ;)

[Cloud Nine]

Other Things heard from backstabbing whores:


"I couldnt believe that the wife did it in Presumed Innocent"

(after coitus) "I'm so nervous, I dont get my herpes test results until next Thrusday"

"Milk came out of my nose!"

"I met justlooking in real life, he's nothin special, the cheap bastard doesnt even bring you any gifts."

[Slinky Bender]

Wow, so we finally came up with a subject which has never been discussed before.... :rolleyes:

[Cloud Nine]

"I think that BMM guy has a sexual addiction problem."

"Houston is such a damn freeloader, she's constantly hanging out at my pool and never gives me any of her Yankee tix to boot."

"slinkybender's handle should be 'stinkyfinger' instead"

[justme]

Funniest thread in a long time.

[jras]

Originally posted by BigMadM

I guess the anticipation did me in.
sometime i think THAT's what i'm really paying for -- the anticipation (which of course begins as soon as you decide to go for it)

[elliot16]

Originally posted by h. von bingen
it's hvb, get it right already.

Yeah!!!! Now you see how I feel HPV....

[Kimmie]

Well, I am sorry April feels the way she does..... But thats just life I suppose.

There is just so much more to all this , and I could be a real bitch and reveal the hidden agenda behind all this crap, but I will not stress myself with it. I know, and the people that matter to me know, and that is all that counts..

It's sad that some of you ( no names) are so eager for a big blow out, and pussy fight. But it's not going to happen.

All I will say is those who have seen certain people lash out at me when they do not get what they want are wise enough to know the deal.


I will say this though. Despite all the crap betty and I have gone through on this board, all the name calling, and taking digs at our posting styles, and approach to the biz, I think she is quite a woman to not past judgemement, and her post above shows she is smart, level headed, and not in the least bit vindictive.


Oh and one last thing.. The only men I stake claim to are the men I date.

I dont care if a john hires other hos. He is just a client..Nothing more or less, and the sooner some of you realize that, the better for all of us...... aight?

[NOYL]

Tell the story.

[Kimmie]

Noyl, just because you dont like billys, that does not mean I will say anything bad about him publicly.

I know he has called you a rapist, and made lots of fat jokes about you, but this isn't about you. So stop looking for a fight, and go back to watching pornos.. :p j/k

I am going to watch some hot girls with big tits on Fear Factor..

Damn those girls are sexy when they eat live animals!!!!

[h. von bingen]

Originally posted by Kimmie
It's sad that some of you ( no names) are so eager for a big blow out, and pussy fight. But it's not going to happen.

. . . betty . . . is smart, level headed, and not in the least bit vindictive [/B]
YEAH!

very smart move kimmie. very smart move.

[Slinky Bender]

Originally posted by NOYL
Tell the story.

My one regret is that I have but one space to place tags for my country.

[h. von bingen]

spit-take

who, knew? john lennon was right about instant karma.

[Slinky Bender]

No self respecting Budhist uses instant Karma.

[h. von bingen]

well, not all of us has the time to make their karma from scratch.

[alterego]

Originally posted by h. von bingen
well, not all of us has the time to make their karma from scratch.

Martha Stewart does. Now she does, anyhow.

&aelig;

[billyS]

Originally posted by NOYL
Billy, why don't you just name her?
Because I knew she was stupid enough to out herself.

[billyS]

Originally posted by Kimmie
There is just so much more to all this
No there really isn't. I just realized the other morning that you have a nasty habit of putting down the other girls here every time I was considering seeing one of them. I figured it would be a good topic, and I left your name out of it. I guess you had a guilty conscience and thats why you ******ed April. Why else would you ****** her unless you saw yourself in the post? Hmmmmm.

[Kimmie]

The girls on Fear Factor tonight were smoookin.

But I really liked the Miss USA girls most of all .. yummy!

I wonder when centerfold models will do fear factor?

Now thats a show to watch!!!!

[h. von bingen]

(which way does that taint flow) i considered the totality of this thread. so.

what was the purpose?

clearly it was not to inform other ug members, otherwise billys would have named the accuser.

clearly it was not to inform the providers in question that someone was spreading purportedly false information about them. (he could have done that privately). despite the fact that i find someone like april physically and mentally repulsive as well as utterly lacking in integrity, neither she, nor betty_snj, who by all accounts is a fine person, deserve to be used as instruments and thereby have their reputations and/or business suffer.

his only possible purpose was to harass, menace and blackmail kimmie, because of some disagreement between them. that's pretty crappy behaviour, but of course billys has a history of bringing "real life" beefs online.

what's also hilarious is that noyl -- you know he the "defender of the underdog"-- is now an either a witting or unwitting dupe. priceless. well lay down with dogs, get up with fleas. it's really kind of sad, that anyone noyl decides to align with comes out a little more tarnished that he or she started out.

[h. von bingen]

o yeah, i know, that some (yeah and that means you april) doubt that i am a lawyer, but let me give you girls some free $400 an hour advice -- stick together (like a union) and cut this guy (billys) out of whatever loop there is. anybody that sees him is potentially subject to this kind of treatment. think about it.

[pjorourke]

Originally posted by h. von bingen
o yeah, i know, that some (yeah and that means you april) doubt that i am a lawyer, but let me give you girls some free $400 an hour advice It took me less than a minute to read your post. Can I get change?

[h. von bingen]

pj instead of being retarded, why don't you just admit for a moment that i'm right?

[dumbslave]

Mabel: Interesting development in Kimmie's character.

Eleanor: Yeah, you're right. This show usually doesn't have that much by way of character development.

Mabel: We'll have to imagine her stroking a kitten that she's rescued while she does things like that...

Eleanor: Or abandoned by a selfish man she let creep into her bed without paying.

Mabel: People do the oddest things around here. Do you think anyone around here is attempting to harass Cat_Ballou, that very popular former poster, on the new Craigslist Erotic Services Discussion Board?

Eleanor: Oh, no. justlooking would exert his considerable moral influence and put an immediate stop to any such thing.

Mabel: I love the ****** in this world when they exert considerable moral influence.

Eleanor: They look so dashing and gallant when they do that.

Mabel: Are you going to vote for Ana Lovelis's song "Wet" on Z-100?

Eleanor: Only if Slinky sings it for me wearing a pork pie hat.

[h. von bingen]

somebody else is harassing cb?* have i started a trend? this always happens to me. what did they say anyway?

*i must admit though, it only felt like funnin' at the time.

[h. von bingen]

i just went there and read it. fucking hilarious! is it you judgie stirring up a little trouble?

[pjorourke]

Originally posted by h. von bingen
pj instead of being retarded, why don't you just admit for a moment that i'm right? Actually, I think you are right. But a serious response would be out of character here.

[h. von bingen]

yeah, i know.

[pjorourke]

where is that CL ES forum you thought was so hilarious

[h. von bingen]

pj

i really can't answer because i am not sure slinkybender would appreciate that promotion (after all, they don't have an ad here). sorry. (really.)

but while i was in the shower i thought -- judgie should have his cb character go out with craig. that would be really funny. spurned by 2 pmb mods in one year.

regrets,
hvb

[pjorourke]

Originally posted by h. von bingen
but while i was in the showerInteresting mental picture: HvB naked, lathered up and posting.

p.s. I found what you were referencing. Is it safe to assume that you are antieem?

[h. von bingen]

i'm not (word). i'm none of them. i'm going to work -- we'll see what develops. poor cb -- hairpin trigger.

[NOYL]

hv8, any day you get to drive a Shelby Cobra is a great day!

[h. von bingen]

what's a shelby cobra?

[jseah]

Originally posted by h. von bingen
what's a shelby cobra?

In 1965, auto racer Carroll Shelby built a custom roadster that Ford sold as a limited edition vehicle.

http://www.carrollshelby.com/images/photos/Cobra427-03.jpg

The AC Cobra was first made available with a 289 cubic inch motor, eventually going all the way up to a monster 427 cubic inch motor. Since such small numbers of these vehicles were made, they are now extremely expensive.

Since then, many manufacturers had made Cobra body kits that can be bolted onto Chevy Corvette chassis' to make the Vette look like a Cobra. In the early 80's, Carroll Shelby's company came out with a limited edition "genuine" Cobra, also built on a Vette chassis.

In Feb of this year, Carroll Shelby and Ford announced that they had renewed their partnership, with the release of a new Cobra concept car, and that the car would be available in dealers by this summer as a 2005 model.

http://www.pantera.net/10604shelby5home.jpg

[h. von bingen]

so what's his point?

[h. von bingen]

and what's with the hv8?

[jseah]

to explain NOYL's post, being able to drive a Cobra is like arguing a case in the Supreme Court and kicking serious butt........like being able to share a meal and finish off the meal with drinks and cigars while discussing art with Andy Warhol, Picasso, and Van Gogh.

[jseah]

Originally posted by h. von bingen
so what's his point?

it's a guy thing........it's like how women would be about a pair of shoes.......

[jseah]

......like being able to jam with Hendrix and Joplin at Woodstock

......like nailing a hole in one at the 7th hole at Pebble Beach

......like sinking a 40 foot birdie putt on the 18th at Augusta to win the Masters

......like being asked to the prom by the most popular boy at high school

......like drawing a royal flush when the pot is huge and you went all in

[Slinky Bender]

hv8, any day you get to slam dunk from the foul line is a good day!

[jseah]

Originally posted by slinkybender
hv8, any day you get to slam dunk from the foul line is a good day!

I can slam dunk from the foul line.............

............on my kids' Fisher Price basketball set..............

[h. von bingen]

hv8?

[h. von bingen]

Originally posted by slinkybender
hv8, any day you get to slam dunk from the foul line is a good day! so he got laid and didn't have to pay for it?

[Confused]

Jseah, it was great to hear the summary of the Shelby Cobra. I used to be a huge car aficcionado but the models over the last 10 years or so just don't do it for me.

Reading about the Shelby Cobra reminded me of how I used to dream of owning one as a kid.

Even so, driving a Cobra pales to all the comparisons you make because (1) driving is not the same as owning, and (2) anyone with enough scratch can own, the most other things you mention take talent and relying on the inner self.

(although I get that you were going for the apex in those situations)

Would still be a blast, though.

[Confused]

Originally posted by h. von bingen
so he got laid and didn't have to pay for it?

Yeah, its more likely you'll be driving a shelby cobra.

[jseah]

Originally posted by Confused
I used to be a huge car aficcionado but the models over the last 10 years or so just don't do it for me.

Reading about the Shelby Cobra reminded me of how I used to dream of owning one as a kid.

Even so, driving a Cobra pales to all the comparisons you make because (1) driving is not the same as owning, and (2) anyone with enough scratch can own, the most other things you mention take talent and relying on the inner self.


I once read the best description of a car nut by one of the auto magazine writers..........he said that a car nut is a guy whose wife looks for a house with an attached garage, but he looks for a garage with an attached house.

Although I have never driven an original Cobra, I have read that the car is not really very user friendly. With the light weight, big engine, and lousy tires of the past, it was a bear to handle.....and the passenger compartment tended to get very hot from the engine.

[jseah]

Originally posted by Confused
Would still be a blast, though.

The closest I have ever gotten to automotive nirvana was driving south on Highway 1 along the California coast north of Santa Barbara.......warm summer night, top down, very few cars on the road, a full moon reflecting off of the Pacific Ocean, no sound except for the roar of the engine and the wind whipping through the car.

[Confused]

Maybe so, but between the way it looked, sounded, and the speed, it would be a blast. Besides, how much heat do you feel with the top down going 100 mph?

I can't remember the exact stats but I recall hearing it could go from 0-100 and back to 0 in 14 seconds, essentially in the span of a quarter mile. Must be a rush. Not a car to tool around town in.

As far as being a bear to handle, didn't the Cobra have a decent track pedigree in terms of winning a ton of races? Maybe I'm just Confused.

[Confused]

Originally posted by jseah
The closest I have ever gotten to automotive nirvana was driving south on Highway 1 along the California coast north of Santa Barbara.......warm summer night, top down, very few cars on the road, a full moon reflecting off of the Pacific Ocean, no sound except for the roar of the engine and the wind whipping through the car.

Did the exact same thing a couple of months back in a Chrysler Sebring convertible! Was surprised at how much I enjoyed driving it considering it was a chrysler and an automatic.

Closest I ever came to that nirvana was the same stretch of road in a little red fiat convertible, my first convertible purchased for 800 beans. I thought I was rich because I could afford a summer car. I loved that car and the fact that, at the time, I had enough hair that the locks from the back of my head would whip around and hurt when they hit my face!

Buying a new convertible in a couple of weeks, the details of which I won't reveal out of fear of being outed. Suffice to say, its phat and going to be a great summer.

Also contemplating a bike, you only live once. (yeah, maybe no need to accelerate the dying process but what the hell).

[jseah]

Originally posted by Confused
As far as being a bear to handle, didn't the Cobra have a decent track pedigree in terms of winning a ton of races?

From what I understand, driving any "pure" sports car would be a bear for an average driver to handle......with no power steering, no power brakes, it would take lots of muscle and finesse with the pedals to avoid wrapping the car around a pole in a turn.

[Slinky Bender]

Originally posted by Confused
Besides, how much heat do you feel with the top down going 100 mph?

What top?

[jseah]

Originally posted by Confused
a little red fiat convertible, my first convertible purchased for 800 beans.

I remember my first convertible........a Triumph Spitfire. Paid $200 for it (and I think I overpaid), even got the driving gloves that matched the interior. Fully intended to do a complete restoration................never got around to it, while the car sat on blocks for a few years (it spent more time on blocks than on the road)............ended up selling it for parts.

[Confused]

Nothing gets by SB.

[Slinky Bender]

I'm pretty sure the origanl concept behind the Cobra was supposed to be an answer to The Plastic Pig, which was another "sports car" which was all muscle and no finesse.

[Confused]

Originally posted by jseah
From what I understand, driving any "pure" sports car would be a bear for an average driver to handle......with no power steering, no power brakes, it would take lots of muscle and finesse with the pedals to avoid wrapping the car around a pole in a turn.

True. And exactly why it would be such a blast.

[Confused]

Originally posted by slinkybender
I'm pretty sure the origanl concept behind the Cobra was supposed to be an answer to The Plastic Pig, which was another "sports car" which was all muscle and no finesse.

What was the Plastic Pig? You mean the Corvette?

Love old corvette convertibles, style over substance, perhaps. You can never give too much attention to styling. Its what cars today lack (although manufacturers seem to be waking up to that with the faux retro car kick they are on, but they fall short because they are so gimmicky)

[Confused]

Originally posted by jseah
I remember my first convertible........a Triumph Spitfire. Paid $200 for it (and I think I overpaid), even got the driving gloves that matched the interior. Fully intended to do a complete restoration................never got around to it, while the car sat on blocks for a few years (it spent more time on blocks than on the road)............ended up selling it for parts.

Very nice car.

Never even considered doing a restoration because I know I'd do the same thing.

I ended up gifting mine to a friend because I couldn't stand the idea of selling it to a stranger. Pity he didn't give the car the care it deserves.

[Cloud Nine]

Originally posted by NOYL
hv8, any day you get to drive a Shelby Cobra is a great day!

And to think I used to believe that you and mopar were the same person, mopar would never be caught dead in a Ford.

[One Eyed Trouser Trout]

Originally posted by jseah
The closest I have ever gotten to automotive nirvana was driving south on Highway 1 along the California coast north of Santa Barbara.......warm summer night, top down, very few cars on the road, a full moon reflecting off of the Pacific Ocean, no sound except for the roar of the engine and the wind whipping through the car.

A number of years back, I was one of the first owners in Philly to get the 1999 Mercedes CLK320 Cabriolet. Sweet car, convertible, quick.

I drove it to Raleigh Durham once for a long weekend, putting the top down in Richmond, Va, took my shirt off (it was early May) and took I-85 from south of Richmond to Durham. Long stretches of this highway are thru forests of southern pine trees, almost like a bobsled run. And, there are rarely any cops on this highway in my experience. Had the wind deflector screen up as well as the windows and at times was nudging towards 100 mph. Smooth as silk, could lite a cigarette with a Bic.

Got to Raleigh with a white stripe across my chest from the shoulder belt.....


Another time was back in like 1991, I was in San Francisco on business and rented a Mazda Miata, was staying at the airport Westin or Hyatt in Burlingame. Drove south to Palo Alto to see the campus at Stanford. Despite the volume of traffic and feeling every little bump in the road, it was a sweet ride that day....then, again, I've always felt relaxed in San Fran for some reason...I think it's the water

[jseah]

Originally posted by One Eyed Trouser Trout
I've always felt relaxed in San Fran for some reason...I think it's the water

it's the sourdough bread.......

[jseah]

Originally posted by One Eyed Trouser Trout
I drove it to Raleigh Durham once for a long weekend, putting the top down in Richmond, Va, took my shirt off (it was early May) and took I-85 from south of Richmond to Durham. Long stretches of this highway are thru forests of southern pine trees, almost like a bobsled run. And, there are rarely any cops on this highway in my experience. Had the wind deflector screen up as well as the windows and at times was nudging towards 100 mph. Smooth as silk, could lite a cigarette with a Bic.

Got to Raleigh with a white stripe across my chest from the shoulder belt.....


one of the "things to do before I die" that I want to accomplish is to do a month-long or more car tour of the US........not a straight shot from east to west, but more of a meandering drive.....going north-south as well as east-west.

[One Eyed Trouser Trout]

Originally posted by jseah
one of the "things to do before I die" that I want to accomplish is to do a month-long or more car tour of the US........not a straight shot from east to west, but more of a meandering drive.....going north-south as well as east-west.

When I was a kid, my family camped. We've been from Maine to Florida, up through the Smokey Mountains and west to Colorado, Montana, Wyoming, the Dakotas, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Illinois, Kansas, etc.

I can tell you from my perspective that road trips through the mid-west can be truly boring. Miles and upon miles of staight highway, and nothing but corn and wheat silos to see.

Colorado was pretty much the same until we got to Denver and the mountains, then it was a nice time. Wyoming is boring, the Dakotas were pretty neat, especially driving in to see Mt. Rushmore and Little Bighorn. Stopping in Abilene Kansas to see Dwight Eisenhower's boyhood home was ok. Now mind, this was in a 1966 Chevy Belair stationwagon with no air conditioning in July/August.

I once flew into Denver and then drove up into Aspen via the southern route....impressive. The Grand Tetons was a nice place to stay...swimming in the lake with 4 snow capped mountains as a backdrop was relaxing.

[justme]

Life is better in a convertable. Of that, there can be no doubt.

[jseah]

Originally posted by One Eyed Trouser Trout
I can tell you from my perspective that road trips through the mid-west can be truly boring. Miles and upon miles of staight highway, and nothing but corn and wheat silos to see.


Except for the corn and wheat silos, that sounds like 90%+ of the land in this country.


hey.....we figured out a way to stop hvb from posting......talk about cars.... ;)

[jseah]

Originally posted by One Eyed Trouser Trout
Got to Raleigh with a white stripe across my chest from the shoulder belt.....


FWIW, I would have been more impressed if you were a woman with 38DD's.........

[robnotbob]

THREAD DRIFT!!!!

[littleguy]

Originally posted by One Eyed Trouser Trout
then, again, I've always felt relaxed in San Fran for some reason...I think it's the water

Maybe it's the homos ???

(Relax ! It's a joke !!!)

[littleguy]

Originally posted by jseah
one of the "things to do before I die" that I want to accomplish is to do a month-long or more car tour of the US........not a straight shot from east to west, but more of a meandering drive.....going north-south as well as east-west.

If you're really going to "meander" properly you'll need a lot more than a month.

[alterego]

Originally posted by jseah
one of the "things to do before I die" that I want to accomplish is to do a month-long or more car tour of the US........not a straight shot from east to west, but more of a meandering drive.....going north-south as well as east-west.

Driving aimlessly around America is the thing I love doing the most.

I've driven through all 50 states, plus DC and Puerto Rico, and 9 of the 10 provinces of Canada. Next I want to try driving through Mexico. I'm never so happy as I am when I'm on the road.

&aelig;

[Slinky Bender]

Some day I want to drive to Puerto Rico.

[jseah]

drive to Miami and make a right.

and make sure your tires are inflated properly.

[alterego]

Originally posted by slinkybender
Some day I want to drive to Puerto Rico.

Yeah... yeah... I know... it's an island...

But it is really fun to drive in Puerto Rico, in a crazy sort of way.

I will NEVER complain about traffic again in NYC, Chicago, or LA after driving around San Juan. But once you leave the city you are 30 minutes from driving through the rain forest and an hour away from cruising back roads overlooking the Caribbean.

&aelig;

[alterego]

Originally posted by jseah
drive to Miami and make a right.


Actually it would be a left turn.

&aelig;

[alterego]

You know what else I like about Puerto Rico? The sandwiches. I really like the sandwiches there. They don't skimp on the ham when they make a sandwich. I appreciate that.

Also, I think Puerto Rican girls are really hot.

&aelig;

[jseah]

Originally posted by alterego
Yeah... yeah... I know... it's an island...


how many lanes do you want on that bridge*


*taking a page from slinky's playbook

[jseah]

Originally posted by alterego
Also, I think Puerto Rican girls are really hot.


just don't piss them off..........they're not kidding when they talk about the "hot Latin blood".

[dumpy]

Originally posted by h. von bingen
o yeah, i know, that some (yeah and that means you april) doubt that i am a lawyer, but let me give you girls some free $400 an hour advice -- stick together (like a union) and cut this guy (billys) out of whatever loop there is. anybody that sees him is potentially subject to this kind of treatment. think about it.

HvB = The Anit-Pimp?

[h. von bingen]

anit?

[alterego]

Originally posted by h. von bingen
anit?

hbv or Hv8 would understand.

&aelig;

[dumpy]

My Bad. Anti-Pimp.

Done trying to be witty now. Have a nice day.

[h. von bingen]

Originally posted by alterego
hbv or Hv8 would understand.

&aelig; i'm sure they're both deceptive names trying to sully the hvb "brand."

[h. von bingen]

Originally posted by dumpy
My Bad. Anti-Pimp.

Done trying to be witty now. Have a nice day. say it loud, i'm anti pimp and i'm proud.

[Dondee]

Gotta love that Clarasil!

[NOYL]

Originally posted by jseah
http://www.carrollshelby.com/images/photos/Cobra427-03.jpg

That's the car. With a 427.

[Slinky Bender]

Must have been one big fucking shoehorn.

[Confused]

Yeah, well you can forget about that 14 second quarter mile.

Oh shit! One more post to 500. And here I thought I'd use it to review an expensive cumdumpster. Nah, honestly, not in the mood for pay for play lately so I guess I'll just use it to make fun of somebody or tilt at a windmill out of boredom.

BTW, SB, googled that plastic pig and I came up with a three wheeled car (UK, I believe) called the Reliant.

So, what the hell is a Plastic Pig? (or is that an obscure reference to Phantom?)

[One Eyed Trouser Trout]

Originally posted by littleguy
Maybe it's the homos ???

(Relax ! It's a joke !!!)

Back in about 1983, I was dating this chick with a super figure. Large, firm breasticles, too.

Anyway, we went to Rehobeth Beach, De for a weekend and at that time, there was a gay section of the beach. When she realized that, she said to me...."ya know what's discouraging? Here I am in a really hot bathing suit and not one of these guys is noticing!!"

[One Eyed Trouser Trout]

Originally posted by Confused

So, what the hell is a Plastic Pig? (or is that an obscure reference to Phantom?)

It's what some people call the Corvette with it's fiberglass body.

What, you live under a rock or sumthin??

[One Eyed Trouser Trout]

Originally posted by NOYL
That's the car. With a 427.

Shelby apparently is living in Vegas and is still building Cobras.

[Dondee]

(i better keep quiet about my 1971 Karman-Ghia convertible, with automatic "StikShift" and first year they had a real glass rear window)

[jseah]

Originally posted by One Eyed Trouser Trout
Shelby apparently is living in Vegas and is still building Cobras.

Yeah, but Shelby's company is based in So. Cal.

[curious]

quote:
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Originally posted by jseah
drive to Miami and make a right.






Originally posted by alterego
Actually it would be a left turn.

&aelig;

Maybe jseah's used to jughandles.

[BigMadM]

Originally posted by slinkybender
Some day I want to drive to Puerto Rico.

just drive over to wilson ave in bushwick.

[April]

For the record I have a very good reason to believe what was posted and what was denied by kimmie. The same thing she SUPPOSEDLY said reguarding Betty , she said the same exact thing to me about Betty (to my knowlege only me, but I guess I was wrong, cause she said it to billy too.) Now isn't it kind of strange that something she confided in me gets put up on the board along with alot of lies about me? Put yourself in my position. Wouldn't you think she must have said it, because she DID say that about Betty to my face! Then without even being accused by me she sends me an ****** denying it? I mean personally if something is amiss I'm not going to say I didnt do it because no one has accused me and also I KNOW I didnt do it.
Now any third party that wants to give their non-first hand opinion is welcome to, although I really could care less. I know the first hand facts here, and I don't need anyone to try and convince me of anything else, because I was there when it was originally said to myself about betty.

ok back on break from posting here. See I tried to get you to ban me.

post away hpv I wont be reading or responding.

[Kimmie]

April,

It's sad that you and I once had a very close friendship, and now you are spitting vemon at me because of lies by a john that was mad at me because I didnt suck his dick when he came to visit me ( I had just woken up and wasnt in the mood)

I could NEVER have said Betty has the stomach of an 8 month old pregnant woman to your face, when I only met Betty, for the first time, in January 2004. AND I haven't seen you in person in well over a year and a half.

Yes, when you and I were together we did discuss other girls, and how their posts pissed us off.


Look, I am not looking for drama..

I have too much shit to deal with in my personal life right now.

With the 1 year anniversary of my mothers death fast approaching, my kids schooling, my real life friends, and their family problems, and also my work, I really can't be bothered anymore to defend something a john who once praised me on this board, but is now mad at me for not wanting to do a threesome with his mistress and him, and not giving him discounted bj's anymore...

It's just not worth it.. There are more important things in life..

Ya know???


April, I miss you as a friend. We had lots of laughs...

I won't be part of this anymore.

I have enough drama off line to deal with drama online as well..

[betty_snj]

April,

I don't give a flying fuck to what people say about me.
People can say whatever...I'm soooo secure of myself and my abilities of making my clientele happy, that I truly don't give a second or third thought about stupid things.
Everyone knows I'm a big girl and that I'm not 20, so, whoever comes to see me KNOWS exactly what they're getting and they always come back for more because they like me and what I can provide for them.
Kimmie and I did doubles in NNJ and ALL the guys we saw together that whole week...except one or two, were my repeated clients.
We had 6 days/nights filled with appointments from guys I met before.
That, alone, can show that I'm not worried about losing business over words exchanged behind my back.
If BillyS didn't come to see me when he was down my way, it's his loss, because what I really wanted to was MEET the UG board person behind a handle, not necessarily FUCK or SUCK his dick.
I didn't think he was giving me a lame excuse. Unfortunately, I believe in people and, when he said he was sharing a room with another guy and could not come over, I just said ok and went on with my life.
I didn't beg him to come, he was the one mailing me asking for an appt. We exchanged couple more mails regarding schedules and that was it.
I don't fret, waste my time or lose my sleep with things that are not important to me.
I NEVER talk about ANY provider behind her back, not even when guys asked me questions about this one or that one.
I always tell then that I don't know them any better either and they should contact and ask the questions themselves.
Things that really annoys me (either in and out of the job) are...bickering, gossiping and backstabbing.

[JaxHammer]

April, I cannot believe someone accused you of being a heroin user. Whoever said it should wash their mouth out with soap.

[April]

Originally posted by JaxHammer
April, I cannot believe someone accused you of being a heroin user. Whoever said it should wash their mouth out with soap.

or at the very least have facts to back it up with.

Anyway Kimmie and Betty as well. I prefer to just put this all behind us. Personally this has become a very small part of my life these days unlike 2 years ago when I lived the life. There is too much bad stuff going on in life to let things like this distract us. Although everyone seems to love a train wreck.

What ever was or wasn't said doesn't really matter because it has no bearing on my life at all. I wish all parties involved or uninvolded nothing but the best.
April

[UPPEREASTSIDE]

about taking the high road.