Lost in NNJ!! [Archive]

Kimmie

09-08-2001, 02:14 PM

Actually Phantom..Its funny you should ask..

I was offered something for free this past week, and I declined! I suppose being in this biz makes you realize nothing good comes for free.. And if you think about it..Nothing is ever really FREE. Theres always some kind of price tag on it..Maybe you dont pay for it now, but you will end up paying for it in the long run..

Kisses
LETS GO YANKEES!!

Phantom

09-08-2001, 03:13 PM

Kimmie,

This is not directed at you personally, so please don't take it that way, but why does eveyone have to use the excuse of being "in the business" for why things can't happen?

Hasn't anyone ever given you a gift without any strings attached only because they knew you would like the gift and didn't expect anything in return? C'mon Kimmie, you can't be that hardened.

Or why does everyone use being "in the business" for why you can't have a relationship outside the "business" even though you've met that person through the "business"? I mean it's hard enough meeting people that you really like even outside the "business" to use how you met someone to decide whether or not to have a relationship with that person outside the "business".

maryjane

09-08-2001, 04:35 PM

This gal is a very classy lady and you guys should be nice to her-she is a dear friend:)

MJ of NNJ

Kimmie

09-08-2001, 05:46 PM

MJ Thank you.. :)

Phantom.. I can not speak for anyone other then myself.. I would never ,could never, and will never "see" anyone outside of work.. I had a client today ask me if he was cute? If I was attracted to him.. If I would be with him for no donation fee.. I found that to be totally disrespectful, rude and basically egotisical.. If I met you doing my job..what the h*ll makes you think I am going to date you? Is his ego so big he thinks I would say oh ok, I will see you so you can USE me and then not call me anymore..
I have found that men cant handle or actually believe that there are women who wont fall for them and want to be with them outside of business.. I am here to work.. If you want a woman to fall in love with, marry, and have 2 kids with.. you are looking in the wrong place.. Put a personal ad and ask for the woman of your dreams, but I am not that woman.
I am the person you see once a month, relieve some stress, and then leave.. If you dont call me the next day I wont call you and ask why didnt you call me.. Call me when you need me..

I have clients who I am very friendly with who do just say hi when they call.. But they dont look for a free relationship.. It was not what they signed up for so they are respectful enough not to ask for it now..

Kisses
LETS GO YANKEES!!

[Edited by Kimmie on 09-08-2001 at 09:47 PM]

Phantom

09-08-2001, 07:00 PM

Sorry Kimmie, and I mean no disrespect to you, but I can not and will not ever accept the fact that how two people meet prevents them from having a relationship outside that situation. You'd most likely say "no, never", but I believe that if the correct situation occurred you'd change your mind. It's human nature to be attracted to particular people you meet occasionally, regardless of the situation you meet them in.

[Edited by Phantom on 09-08-2001 at 11:03 PM]

SpaMonger

09-09-2001, 05:01 AM

Hey now, this thread is getting pretty long. The important fact here is that we have no contact info for the sweet Kimmie.

Anyone ever use her services before? Please elaborate.

[Edited by Luv2PumpU on 09-09-2001 at 09:03 AM]

Hotpuppy

09-09-2001, 06:15 AM

L2PU,
Try the email button for Kimmie.
HP

maryjane

09-09-2001, 07:51 AM

now what a concept hehehehehehehehehehe:)

MJ

Kimmie

09-09-2001, 08:36 AM

Ah yes the email button its amazing the results you get when you hit that button :)

Phantom, thank you for being so sweet.. And no disrespect taken, However look at this situation.. Can a police officer date a person whom he has locked up?

Ok, maybe not same situation, but you really should not mix business and pleasure..

Kisses
LETS GO YANKEES!! ( Kickin Red Sox Booty)

Phantom

09-09-2001, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by Kimmie
Can a police officer date a person whom he has locked up?

Why not?

Kimmie, there's a quote and it goes like this,

"The world isn't stranger then you imagine, it's stranger then you can imagine"

Kimmie have a nice day and a great time in NNJ.

Kimmie

09-09-2001, 10:31 AM

Ok..let me Re Phrase that..

WOULD a police officer date someone he locked up?

Thank you, I plan to take in the sites and clean fresh air of NJ.. LOL ;)

Kisses
LETS GO YANKEES!( Bring on The Mariners)

Escort_King

09-09-2001, 10:40 AM

Dated a "provider" I had seen once. Had seen her a few times and one night asked her if she wanted to go for a drink while she waited for her next call.
Ended up spending a couple of hours together, talking... just hanging out. Few nights later she called me and said she would like to return the favor and buy me a drink... saw each other for about six months and then she finished school and moved... both of us knew we had different places to go at that time and she and I kept in touch for a couple of years ...

Hate to say it Kimmie but you should hold the 'hobbyists' in contempt for helping you make an income... guess you wouldn't date someone from your workplace if you had a straight job...

Phantom

09-09-2001, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by Kimmie
WOULD a police officer date someone he locked up?

Are you saying that this has never happened?

A person commits a non violent crime and is locked up and does their time. Should that mistake be held against them for the rest of their lives?

Kimmie isn't life tough enough without putting unreasonable limits on it?

littleguy

09-09-2001, 11:56 AM

Phantom,

"C'mon Kimmie, you can't be that hardened."

I think Kimmie has answered that LOUD AND CLEAR.

Kimmie

09-09-2001, 12:28 PM

Phantom..

It isnt so much the fact the person has committed a crime and should they be forgiven.. Its the fact that WHY would a officer want to date someone they met in a work related environment.. Ok, lets get off the cop thing because its not even relevent to what we are discussing.
I could not date someone I met as a client.. That is MY opinion, I am not speaking for anyone else.. I personally would not.. I think it isnt a smart thing to do. Keep work where work is suppose to be. Am I hardened? Maybe I am.. but once you start to lose perspective you lose alot more in the end.. I am here to work, not to fall in love..

Escort King.. I have a "straight" job as you put it.. I did try to date someone from that job long ago and it failed before it could even start. He was my work associate. Dating each other should never have even happened. It was an extremely uncomfortable situation..
I am glad you had a good experience.

Kisses
LETS GO YANKEES!!( IS IT OCTOBER YET?)

09-09-2001, 01:03 PM

I wouldn't say never because it's a long time, but I think it is a good idea to draw that line for the escort and client.

It makes life much easier in the end on both parties involved that the linebe clearly drawn. For the escort there is too much chance to get wound up in something messy. It is a job in the end for them. If they didn't need to do it, they wouldn't be. The client would run a great chance to get played by someone who would bilk them of much more than jus t money.

Bill Furniture

09-09-2001, 06:00 PM

I lived near a Police Station for 34 years. I know that some of the officers ended up dating people they arrested. Especially if the girls were from the block. The cops would make sure they were "keeping out of trouble." I know a girl who had big boobs since age 14. By the time she was 17, a bunch of the cops were getting BJs from her and banging her in my friend's house. I didn't know this had been going on until about 10 years later when I started working in the liquor store with the guy. They ended up making her an Auxilliary cop so they could bang her in the precinct house.

buddyyy

09-09-2001, 07:13 PM

There is a significant difference in the client/provider relationship than that of other meetings that may produce unexpected couplings.

It is solely the perogative of the client to act on any feelings. One of the key aspects of the client/provider "contract" is that the provider agrees not to interfere in any way with the clients life. No demands or requests which may be difficults or troublesome for the client after the session.

My choice to seek satisfaction with professionals rather than just any one is that I only want to be involved in relationships where the possibility of either pary being hurt because of mixed expectations is minimized as much as possible.

I don't know if a service provider has ever felt dissapointed when I chose to stop seeing them, nor if they have every wanted me to be available when they might need support. While I doubt it, but if it did I know it really is not my problem. I do not have to grapple with all the issues I would if I was having affairs with women wherein the terms of engagement are not so clearly understood.

A client/provider relationship is also a relationship between a man and a women involved in an intimate act. The best of these involve situations where the people do get to know each other a bit and do care about each other.

It is the rules of the engagement which enables this to be a fire that fulfills rather than burns.

As much as I like a provider I have the right to expect not to be placed in a position of being asked for something by someone I might care about but can not provide.

It must work both ways.

Casper

09-10-2001, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by Bill Furniture
They ended up making her an Auxilliary cop so they could bang her in the precinct house.

Interesting definition of Auxiliary, (action on the side) I think I need and Auxiliary g/f.

Peace Out
C

maryjane

09-10-2001, 08:21 PM

We can always count on Bill to provide an interesting anecdote like that............hahahahaha

MaryJane

Thorn

09-13-2001, 03:29 PM

Bill, that is absolutely horrible.

I hope they got caught!

Thorn

09-13-2001, 03:34 PM

say this.

It just seems that this whole tangent is a miscommunication that ran amoke.

Your first comment that started the thread suggested that you were in searce of someone who knew N.NJ that could help you get around so you wouldn't get lost.

Someone suggested that he would do that for free....

and off we went.

So, for the sake of getting it back on target...

Was you first post simply an inuendo and what it really meant was that you were seeking clients for a N.NJ incall/outcall scenario? ...

or were you actually looking for someone to ferry you around N.NJ, but won't take those services for free because you are concerned that someone doing it "for free" would actually want more then what the "free" service was worth?

Thorn <--- Just trying to keep everyone on tract.

Bill Furniture

09-13-2001, 04:21 PM

Originally posted by Thorn
Bill, that is absolutely horrible.

I hope they got caught!

It was almost 20 years ago now, and they didn't get caught.

maryjane

09-13-2001, 06:06 PM

cut the gal a break guys will ya!

MJ

Thorn

09-13-2001, 07:05 PM

when I tried to explain how this whole thing had gotten so terribly involved.

Oh well. :)

My intentions were good.

Slinky Bender

09-13-2001, 09:45 PM

"My intentions were good"

Still trying to get that paving contract ????? :).

Phantom

09-14-2001, 01:40 AM

Slinky,

Very good to see you haven't lost your great sense of humor.

April

09-14-2001, 12:14 PM

In my experience mixing business with pleasure usually leads to hurt feelings. There are a number of girls who are actually looking for they're "knight in shining armor" and get swept away with any type of promises or attention given to them outside the sheets. Once upon a time I myself was this naieve. IMHO this leads to that commonly described term of "jaded" Jaded to me means that you have heard it one too many times, fell for it one too many times and your faith in the possibility of anything but "tell me what I want to hear so you get more for your mileage" kind of thing. Everyone is different and providers go into this business for a multitude of reasons, primarily (IMO) for economic gain. What I have seen is that the girls that CAN keep they're independence as well as everything in perspective seem to be the most happy and successful. Everything is not black and white, especially in this business lines get crossed all the time. Extremes can be a bad thing in every job. I think it's best to know ones self and ones boundaries. I also think that when a provider considers a personal relationship with a client, it is time to consider another way. April ( who has been there and did that and is speaking from her experiences as well as opinions )

Thorn

09-14-2001, 01:07 PM

April, I don't necessarily disagree with anything you said.

However, my earlier point was that this all got off on a tangent.

Kimmie's first request wasn't for a "personal relationship". It was for someone to show her around N.NJ. Someone to play taxi driver.

Its a favor, but its not indicative of anything particularly deep. Somehow it got side tracked into this big discussion of getting burnt and the does and don'ts of provider/client involvement.

Frankly, I had nothing to do... wanted to get away for a bit, and had no problem with squiring the young Lady around if she wanted for an afternoon/evening.

I didn't expect to have to pay for the pleasure of driving her. I didn't expect a discount should I have decided to book an appointment.

Frankly, all I expected was a reasonably good way to kill what was promising to be a boring afternoon/evening and maybe a thank you.

I am a very much "what you see is what you get" type of fellow. I presume that many people are so until they prove to me differently I give them the benefit of the doubt. Also, my expectations of others are low until they show me they can be counted on for more, and then I pony up likewise. So I am very seldom hurt or left feeling disappointed.

Perhaps that just comes with a little age. I don't know. Either way, again, pardon my taking this convo out for yet one more spin around the block.

Wishing well...

[Edited by Thorn on 09-14-2001 at 05:10 PM]

Kimmie

09-18-2001, 08:52 PM

FYI

I had a wonderful guide while in NNJ.. She is a fellow provider and not only did she show me around NJ, but she took me shopping, went out to eat, and even joined me in some mind blowing threesomes.. :O)
Its a tough job but someone had to do it!!

Kisses
LETS GO YANKEES!!

http://bustysexyexotic.homestead.com/VOLUPTOUSSXY38DD.html

Escort_King

09-19-2001, 11:01 AM

Thanks for that poke-your-tongue-out post Kimmie... seems you definitely have the attitude that sponsors poor provider-hobbyist relations...
Though I am sure there are a lot of guys who prefer BBW... at $$1/2$ I would rather go with something a little more svelte... figure I can do the late hour pick-up at a bar to find someone on the BBW side... though married guys may not have that luxury...
Best of luck in your endeavors... but why not stop posting here if you have such a low opinion of the members.

Kimmie

09-19-2001, 11:59 AM

Escort King..

You have either read me wrong, or you just have some grudge against me because I dont weight 100 pounds..

So you are saying I should not post here because I am not thin? You sir are sad.. SAD! That because my bones dont stick out of my hips no man would want me? I do very well thank you.. I am a very beautiful woman inside and outside. I dont force anyone to meet me who isnt interested in a woman like myself. and I dont hide the fact that I am not a size 2..

This is America I am free to post anywhere I DAMN well please. Whether I am FAT Skinny or BALD!

I wish you much luck you are one shallow man..

Also. if you wish to insult me, feel free to meet me and do it to my face. I like to see if people who are cruel online are just as cruel in person..

Kisses
LETS GO YANKEES!!
( YES EVEN FAT CHICKS LIKE BASEBALL) :)

[Edited by Kimmie on 09-19-2001 at 04:08 PM]

candie

09-19-2001, 01:48 PM

For someone who came on this forum the way you did, you sure are full of yourself.

Perhaps, you need a basic course in escorting. There is a market for Everything, even ladies who wish to be with you :)

If you dont have something nice to say, its best not to say anything at all. When someone comes to this forum they dont want to see what nonsense you are typing. If you dont care for Kimmie, move on

Or do you have an issue? Did you ever see Kim? Something tells me you have not. If in the future she types a thought that you may not agree with or like... Move on to another topic! Why waste everyones time having to read your deeply inbedded issues? Why not continue talking bout those that make you happy when you see them? People see thru you. There are men here that look for all kinds. Continuing to insult Kimmie is continuing to insult those clients that like Kimmie's type or Kimmie's style.

jras

09-19-2001, 02:30 PM

Candie -
welcome back.
Kimmie -
please linger.
Escort-King -
can't figure out where the f#*k you're coming from based on words said in this thread. I guess it's OK to use any excuse to dump on the non-skinny crowd, huh? Fat - the final frontier. Chill, bro.

piece, jras

Kimmie

09-19-2001, 04:24 PM

Thank you Candie..

I must admit I was upset by what Escort King said to me. Took it to heart and maybe I spit back too much fire.Heck ,I was ready to meet him at noon and throw down old school Yonkers NY Style LOL..
But I didnt feel my post above his was an attack on anyone. I was just saying I had a great time in NJ and someone showed me around.. I met MJ, and another fellow escort who showed me around. How that was being rude.. Baffled me..
<sigh>

My post here are majority about the Yankees.. I dont except the gentlemen here to find me to be their type. Most men dont like a Voluptuous woman as myself. But those of my clients who do..( Even the single ones) Are the men I enjoy being with.
Oh well.. Lifes too short to argue about this sort of thing.. To each their own..

Kisses
LETS GO YANKEES!!

Escort_King

09-20-2001, 10:47 AM

Kimmie after the discussion of how clients are clients and should not think themselves worth a date.... go back to your posts....
And that it started with a simple offer of help...
then the slight taunt of the reply in...

"FYI

I had a wonderful guide while in NNJ.. She is a fellow provider and not only did she show me around NJ, but she took me shopping, went out to eat, and even joined me in some mind blowing threesomes.. :O)
Its a tough job but someone had to do it!!"

I responded.... the size reply was unwarranted, so for that I apoligize... the rest I will stand by....

You state in your posts that apart from the timed money transactions you have no time for "us".... if I have this wrong guys tell me... so post your ad and be done with it... thought the group was a friendly gathering of hobbyists and providers who do not fully support your division of worker/client relations...

Candie, apart from how I started on this board I think I have contributed to the overall discussions and have shown that I am not an employee of Amber and Friends...

As a member I feel I can comment on posts just like everyone else... and I don't think I am the only one that saw Kimmie's responses as a distain for the people she gets her living from....

But if things are slow and a flame session is needed... hey I enjoy verbal epee...

Thorn

09-20-2001, 12:48 PM

Kimmie, let me first start off by saying that my personal taste in women run toward those that have a little meat on their bones. So I have no problem being with a woman of average size [I *HATE* the term "BBW". Its demeaning in its politically correct, "He's not retarded. He's 'minimally exceptional', sort of way]. Either your beautiful or you ain't and whether you are or not has little to do with size, in the final analysis.

BTW, a little aside. The average dress size of the American Female is NOT size 8. Its 14-16. The average height of the American Female is 5 foot 7 inches and her weight is 160+ lbs. So that is what I mean when I say "average". A pretty, curvy, got her shit together woman is always a good thing.

Now, that said: What people, I believe, are trying to impart to you is that your writings give off a negative vib regarding men, particularly clients.

I do NOT think you do this intentionally. It would be poor business judgement, at the very least. What I DO think it is, is a defensive posture designed to strike before being stricken.

I gather you may have heard negative comments from guys just a few times too often, and it has resulted in this kind of just below the surface passive aggressive thing.

Anyway... enough of me playing amature shrink. Its just a notion. Its passed along in good faith and with an eye toward creating more comprehensive understanding. If you think its full of crap, I won't be offended.

Wishing well...

Kimmie

09-20-2001, 06:36 PM

LOL

I love message boards..

Kisses
LETS GO YANKEES!!

maryjane

09-21-2001, 05:54 AM

Kimmie is in NO way jaded or angry at men from what I can tell, she is just very insightful and has a lot on her mind-not to mention a big fan of the Yankees:)

Anyone who meets her would be LUCKY to do so:)

I met her personally and think she is a super great person and super sexy as a matter of fact-

She may not be 100 pounds but let me tell you, this girl is no 300lb heffer-what she's got she wears well, VERY well-

Love,
Your humbly retired MaryJane

Kimmie

09-23-2001, 05:39 PM

MJ!!

I miss you.. I never see you online anymore!!!

I hope all is going well with you.. Thank you for your sweet words.. You are a good person. I true loss to the business.. I wish you the best!!

Kisses
LETS GO YANKEES!!( DAMN METS WHERE THEY COME FROM?)

petitenyspice

09-25-2001, 09:29 AM

Hi all. Why all the drama concerning Kimmie's choice. She's a grown woman and able to think for herself and she's been doing and making wise decisions.

If you really want to prove to her that you are indeed serious about dating outside of the "provider" relationship, then prove it.

Don't just talk the talk. Bring her flowers and perfume, just like you would a real date and treat her with the utmost courtesy.

xoxo

Bill Furniture

09-25-2001, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by petitenyspice
[Don't just talk the talk. Bring her flowers and perfume, just like you would a real date and treat her with the utmost courtesy.
[/B]

Now why didn't I think of this? Oh, wait, I did! :)
You can't go wrong when you bring a gift, you may spend $15-$30 for the gift, but you could be starting something good.

candie

09-25-2001, 02:27 PM

rolls her eyes, , ,,spanks Bill after.... giggles

Phantom

09-25-2001, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by petitenyspice
Don't just talk the talk. Bring her flowers and perfume, just like you would a real date and treat her with the utmost courtesy.

Petitenyspice,

I have done this to extreme with more escorts then I care to mention. All I've gotten in return is heartache and emotional pain.

[Edited by Phantom on 09-25-2001 at 06:28 PM]

Kimmie

09-25-2001, 02:43 PM

Spicey!! muahhh miss you on AOL.. Call me..If you lost my cell.. email me I will get it to you..VoluptousSxy38DD@hotmail.com

Bill you might bring perfume but your taste you food BLOWS!!! :)

Ok all I must confess..I came thisclose to falling for a client who reminded me a lot of an old boyfriend I lost my heart to last year. He had all his features, mannerisms, his style his EVERTHING! He was even 100% ITALIAN.. those who know me know I have a weakness for latin men!!!

But reality hit me in the head and made me realize It wasnt this person I wanted it was someone I could not have.. And I was heading down a dangerous path. He was my client. Not my ex who took my heart and stomped on it and chewed it up and spit it out .. ok ok I am NOT bitter!!! :)

Kisses
LET GO YANKEES!!( CLINCH TONITE)

Bill Furniture

09-25-2001, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by candie
rolls her eyes, , ,,spanks Bill after.... giggles

Thank you ma'am, may I have another? :D

maryjane

09-25-2001, 09:38 PM

Wow, Petite has hit Utopia-watch out gals.......hehehehehehehe-now that girl is a force to be reckoned with-

Kimmie I miss ya too-email me and I will send you my new #

And Bill, now what can I say about Bill-hehehehe-well I miss ya too!

Love
The Lowdown Dirty Retired MJ of NNJ:)

petitenyspice

09-26-2001, 08:37 AM

Hi once again to the sweet people out there and especially to 38DD and Fly girl.

I've missed you both immensely, you're two of the started ladies I've met on aol.

Fly girl, best of luck on your upcoming wedding and god bless, now as for me being a force to be reckoned with, you know very well I can't hold a candle next to you.

Hugs and kisses, Gia

Thorn

09-26-2001, 01:37 PM

I'll grant you that you are, all three, probably awsume [that said because you all come across as having some smarts and I HATE dumb... there ain't nothing sexy about stupid].

That said, should you three get together for a little "bachoralette" party before MJ's wedding, could I please, please, PLEASE be a fly on the wall after the third bottle of champers goes down fighting and you all start feeling all warm, mellow and friendly like.

[sorry... my personal hang up is that I just think women together is so pretty to watch]

:) <-- big dumb guy grin.

[Edited by Thorn on 09-26-2001 at 05:38 PM]