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LIDAWN
01-30-2001, 06:18 AM
i am wanting to know from you about the (date) ?
How do u like to be greeted.. what makes it fun and memorable ( besides that Grin wink) not to graffic please ya'll

Also what do you think is a fair screening process? how far is too far?

Wuld love imput from the gentlemen and ladies in the house..
alyssa was kind enough to fill me in but i need some external input wink..
HUGZZ DAWN..


LongislandDawn@yahoo.com

Carl M
01-30-2001, 07:33 AM
You already know what I like my Cajun Cutie, its the lips and tongue that count most in my book!

One Eyed Trouser Trout
01-30-2001, 08:08 AM
Good question Dawn.

It's usually best if I'm not passing your last appointment in the hallway.

It's usually best if you don't have the 'just slept with look'.

It's usually best if you're not hanging from the ceiling fan, unless you're gone as far as to wear boots, chaps and are holding a riding crop.

I don't prefer the hard look. Meaning, I am not too fond of streetwalker costumes. Fredericks of Hollywood isn't my thing either....some nice Victoria's Secret speaks volumes.

It's usually best if I can detect some Ivory bathsoap and a faint touch of perfume....you don't want your scent to rub off on your partner...it makes it difficult to explain at home.

I guess what I'm saying is that I prefer a lady to greet me who transforms to an absolute tiger in bed. Even better if you can put me into cardiac arrest. But, be careful with the defibrialtor, they leave burn marks.

Does this help?

Carl M
01-30-2001, 10:00 AM
Bro besides being an excellent kisser, she is a cowgirl at heart, a bucking bronco if you will- so get ready for the ride of your life. Oh yeah if you have chest hairs now- you won't when you get outta there! LOL!!

Ezrlove
01-30-2001, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by LIDAWN
i am wanting to know from you about the (date) ?
How do u like to be greeted.. what makes it fun and memorable ( besides that Grin wink) not to graffic please ya'll

Also what do you think is a fair screening process? how far is too far?

Wuld love imput from the gentlemen and ladies in the house..
alyssa was kind enough to fill me in but i need some external input wink..
HUGZZ DAWN..


LongislandDawn@yahoo.com




Dawn - I like to be greeted with a warm smile and perhaps a kiss (even if its on the cheek). I like for the woman to feel like she is right at home. Perhaps she just takes her coat off and makes herself comfortable (outcall) or holds my hand and leads me into the living room (incall).

Chemistry makes the evening memorable for me. I also like a provider with a personality and a sense of humor and the fact that she can carry on a conversation.

Screening process - The most important part of this hobby is safety. I think giving a business address, business email, and business phone number is fair. Asking a client for any home information is going to far

HornDogBuddah
01-30-2001, 06:06 PM
I started to frame a reply that defended the position that what makes a session truly memorable is not necessarily the greeting but what happens during the main body of the event. However, upon reflection, a truly great ("memorable") encounter does start with the greeting and continues through the parting. Communications experts will tell you that Primacy/Recency are critically important although, for me, for me it's what happens between the greeting and the parting that is the most important and, therefore, tends to capture the imagination as "memorable." However, back to your questions.

Greeting a new client in a manner that is outrageous, disgusting, infuriating, frightening, offensive, etc., will definitely be "memorable" -- but not what you're looking for. I don't think you're going to find a "one size fits all" answer here, just as you don't provide a "one size fits all" service for your men friends. Somehow, in your own inestimable way, you have to make the man feel as if you are only focused on him, that he is the only one who matters, and that you and he are alone in the entire world and all you have to do is concentrate on each other. Sessions are escapism -- I don't want to think about clients, obligations, my current inability to break 80, the market, etc., etc. All of this starts with the first hello.

Now, about screening. This is really tough, because both parties want to feel safe yet their definitions of safe are quite different. While both parties fear LE, the client is afraid of exposure, and giving personal info to a provider so that the provider can decide whether she wants to see him or not makes him very, very anxious. He loses control and feels vulnerable during the interval between when he gives her the information and she greets him at the door. (Sometimes, his anxiety continues following the session because she still has the information and he is left to depend upon her veracity to destroy or delete the information once the session is over. Therefore, he would be most happy if he only has to give her minimal information. She, on the other hand, neeeds to assuage her fear that the client is a Hannibal Lecter wannabe. The more information she can get, the better protected she will be (so she thinks). I think not. A sociopath who is bent on harming her will likely have all of his ducks in a row -- name, telephone number, etc., will be falsified yet convincingly authentic. She gets a false sense of security.

What is the answer for this? I dunno. But trusting someone whom I don't know with my own personal information requires an act of faith that she will not abuse the trust I am placing in her. On the other hand, how does having my personal info protect her or prevent the very thing from happening which she is trying to avoid?

Dawn, what do you think?

guy catelli
01-30-2001, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by LIDAWN
i am wanting to know from you about the (date) ?
.... what makes it fun and memorable...HUGZZ DAWN..

LongislandDawn@yahoo.com

dear Dawn,

for me a date with an escort is a collaborative work of performance art -- like improv jazz. for example, if we were to date, i would like the soundtrack to be a cd like Jimmy Forrest'sNight Train. see: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000004BFF/qid=980915326/sr=2-1/ref=sc_m_1/107-5697834-3011704

check out the title trak and the 5th trak, Bolo Blues.

later,

guy



[Edited by guy catelli on 01-31-2001 at 12:55 AM]

LIDAWN
01-30-2001, 09:50 PM
a hint i will down load it and bring my cd player ok.. grin wink....
I will also BOT and CFTF
I am so enjoying the responses here they may differ and vary but the concensus seems pretty clear thus far..
TReat the man like a king start to finish

Cherish the info he gives you like a hot stock tip and let it go after it is clear he is not ( hannibal lector)
and make sure to let him leave with his toes still curling.. grin wink..

Rest assured when information comes in my hands.. all i ever do is leave a note onn my desk.. this who wherre what when for the day and then it goes bye bye after th event.. this covers if i do not ever come come.. but not likely since you all seem to back each other up and a re discreet and work as a team with the referrl thing..
But keep posting.. as i love the info..
HUGZZZZZZ
DAWN OF LI NY

Hey Guy know that one? LINY ( JOKE) wink

justme
01-31-2001, 08:32 AM
Dawn -

Have you ever been in love, I mean really in love, with someone for years. And you know them so well, and you've done just about everything under the sun. And one day you're sitting there at home and you're just super horny, but they're still at work. Well, you're just sitting there thinking about just what you're going to do to that person when they walk through the door.

I want to be that person walking through the door.

fletch
01-31-2001, 10:09 AM
jm, if the title of this board weren't Utopia Guide, I would say that you were asking for too much.

[Edited by fletch on 01-31-2001 at 02:10 PM]

Slinky Bender
01-31-2001, 10:15 AM
I'll state it another way than JM, but please no one "read too much into it".

Guys like dogs, not cats. You know, when you come home, how the dog acts ? Like he thought you might not be coming home and he's so glad to see you, even though this is exactly how he's reacted every day before for 7 years. So when the guy comes in, wag your tail and act excited to see him, and he's likely to pet you, feed you, and rub your tummy.

Carl M
01-31-2001, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by justme
Dawn -

Have you ever been in love, I mean really in love, with someone for years. And you know them so well, and you've done just about everything under the sun. And one day you're sitting there at home and you're just super horny, but they're still at work. Well, you're just sitting there thinking about just what you're going to do to that person when they walk through the door.

I want to be that person walking through the door.
Bro what you just stated- get ready because she will do exactly that- she does not wasted any time- she'll go right for the Lips! LOL!!

HornDogBuddah
01-31-2001, 12:02 PM
It depends upon the circumstances and my expectations. For example, in AMPs I am not looking for GFE -- I let her table shower me, dry me off, massage me, and then either manually manipulate the conclusion or climb on board for the first of what seems to be a ritualized progression from cowgirl to missionary to doggie (sometimes the last two are reversed). Not much difference from one AMP to another, from one state to another, even from one country to another. There is usually little advance planning required: it's almost as if you simply scratch when you have an itch. On the other hand, when sessioning with a provider with whom I have had one or more exchanges of information and made an advance appointment, my expectations are much, much higher. I'm expecting her to look great, smell great, taste great, feel great, sound great (!) and, certainly, sex great (did I just make up a new usage?). She should want to make me feel great, and I want to experience the pleasure of making her feel great, so we play off one another, with a positive spiralling of intensity of feeling.

justme
01-31-2001, 01:51 PM
fletch - She asked what I was looking for. If I could get 50% of the feeling of 'the guy walking through the door' then I'd be happy with the experience. I think in another world, I may have told you about a girl who surprised me by offering a good % of this experience.

SB - This is 'off topic' but in my non-commercial encounters (and literally) I prefer 'cats'. I like the challenge of getting a cat to like me, the fact that a cat is independant, and the special type of loyalty that cats offer. Dogs are just too easy. On the other hand, if I'm paying for an experience, I don't ever want to run into a cat in one of its pissy moods.

PS - I hope everyone takes this metaphor for what it is. I view all women in my life as people (and thus far more repellant, on the average, than either cats or dogs)

CarlM - Alas, I'm sure I'll have to take your word for it as LI is a bit of a drive for me.

HDB - Imagine if you got that kind of thorough treatment from an AMP.

I remember one time I came home to find my S/O in a similar condition to what I described, but rather than rushing to the main event, she first bathed and massaged me (all the while making me very aware of what I was about to get)... very AMP, no?

***************

And that reminds me... when I describe that (admitedly insanely ideal) situation, I don't have any activities in particular in mind. Different women react to 'that mood' in different ways. What I want is the feeling (I don't need genuine emotions... just convincing ones) that I am getting just what that woman would give in that situation. If it involves a ravishing... fine, a teasing... fine, a spoiling... again, fine. I look more for impressions than I do for events.

Slinky Bender
01-31-2001, 02:16 PM
justme,

But we were talking about a commercial transaction....

BTW Do you know what you call a single, straight male who owns a cat ?

One Eyed Trouser Trout
01-31-2001, 08:25 PM
No message...just trying to post the 1200th message on the board so I can tell my grandkids

Willow
02-01-2001, 12:29 AM
I enjoy giving my undivided attention to a client. I think it is important that during the time you spend with your client he is the only man on earth - and also the only subject on your mind. During a session don't think about your laundry, school, or shopping! The feeling of giving great satisfaction goes a long way on both the provider's part as well as the client's. If I stick to the two things I mentioned here - I am certain to have a happy client who will want to see me again and again.

As to the screening process - I for one, am big on screening. You can never be too careful, not realistically given the nature of the business. I think getting as much info. as possible is a good thing for the provider. To make the client feel better, as a provider, it is important to build a solid reputation as an honest and talented escort. I have a review section on thefoxfiles.com and am also under "People Choice Ladies" at thefoxfiles. This has put some uneasy clients at ease with giving me their personal info. since I am who I say I am - and it is verified by a third party.

pswope
02-01-2001, 04:58 AM
Willow
I do not know you ,nor am I familiar with your screening practices.
While I totally understand the need for the ladies to protect themselves,I've come to understand that the info provided by a John,under what I consider to be an implied,if not explicit agreement of confidentiality is shared with others without the consent of the John giving it. There have also been reported instances of abuse of this info ,where conflicts between the lady and john,unrelated to security,have arisen.
These episodes include posting johns" names and numbers on public or semipublic boards,as well as contacting employers.
Ultimately,each respective side must decide for themselves. If a lady can maintain her desired level of business,then of course she should use whatever screening procedures make her comfortable. As well,there are plenty of great ladies out there,who don't have,what I regard to be onerous procedures. These are the ladies I see.

Slinky Bender
02-01-2001, 06:14 AM
"I think it is important that during the time you spend with your client he is the only man on earth - and also the only subject on your mind"

BING !!!!!! I can't tell you how much of a turn off it is for me to hear about someone's daily grind/problems in the middle of a session. Especailly problems with other people: boss, friends, lover, husband

HER: "My husband has been bugging me again. He says I better not get back into escoting again or he'll kill me"

ME:"Get back into escorting ?"

HER: "Yeah, he doesn't know I never stopped. Stupid cop ! "

ME: "He's a cop ?"

HER:"What time is it ? ...( looks over at clock ).....Honey, you'd better hurry up and finish, he's due home any minute".

guy catelli
02-01-2001, 08:41 AM
Originally posted by slinkybender
ME: "He's a cop ?"

all the better to enjoy it, APM, all the better to enjoy it ;)

ValerieXXX
02-01-2001, 09:47 AM
Screening process is very important, of course one must be trusted with valuable information. That is absolutly sacred. A true dedicated provider will not disclose anything. So need to worry my male compadres!!!!!
Now I do hear there is a new Hannibal movie coming out soon ........LOL.....I can't miss that!! But on the flip side of the coin, we want our ladies to be safe right? If anything happens, hey think of their family that they could leave behind, all for what? Because their screening process could not be complete? I for one would not see that person for fear of something happening. Also, if anything does transpire, you would not see her again, understand? So in all fairness, let us honor our agreements, keep the discretion, on our part, and guys, understand our need to be safe, and why (family etc)

Carl M
02-01-2001, 10:47 AM
Hey Val, How Y'all doin down in FL. Did Ct Gent come back a second time yet!

TuckernotSucker
02-01-2001, 01:34 PM
Hey,
Screening is touchy. So is a session. If I want to touch, you have to screen. Screen away my sweet but only after you email me for an appointment.

TuckernotSucker
02-01-2001, 01:36 PM
How is it going. I know your screen. When are you coming to visit?. Jake

One Eyed Trouser Trout
02-01-2001, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by ValerieXXX
A true dedicated provider will not disclose anything.

-- too bad some of your former associates don't follow the same code of conduct, huh Val?

Now I do hear there is a new Hannibal movie coming out soon ........LOL.....I can't miss that!!

----- gives a whole new meaning to the command "'Eat Me'", huh?



slithering back into the black mist

Ozzy
02-01-2001, 03:04 PM
OETT,

val did say A true dedicated provider

i don't think she ment wacko's, morons and heavily medicated psychopaths. ;)

HornDogBuddah
02-01-2001, 06:36 PM
Ozzie - but if we don't screen her, how will we know if she's heavily medicated or not?

guy catelli
02-03-2001, 06:41 AM
Originally posted by LIDAWN
....How do u like to be greeted.. what makes it fun and memorable?.....

let's not forget this: http://suze.net/preview/images/legs/1803M002.JPG

and that: http://www.suze.net/preview/images/legs/1898m026.jpg ;)