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wimpy
01-30-2001, 05:54 AM
Hello,

I was asked by a provider if we could switch roles. She wants to review me. Does that mean she pays me???

Well, I'll do it whenever she's ready.

Would any of you guys do it?

Ozzy
01-30-2001, 06:19 AM
her name wouldn't be adriana with one N would it?

she does write interesting reviews of her clients.

Slinky Bender
01-30-2001, 06:57 AM
"I was asked by a provider if we could switch roles"

If she starts to put a leather harness on.....run !!!!! ( Although you may usually pay extra for that, so you could always just look at it as a discount...).

Ezrlove
01-30-2001, 07:05 AM
Originally posted by wimpy
Hello,

I was asked by a provider if we could switch roles. She wants to review me. Does that mean she pays me???

Well, I'll do it whenever she's ready.

Would any of you guys do it?




I have been reviewed and her words were lovely. But I think if providers start posting reviews on clients it could get pretty ugly. What do you guys think?

Ozzy
01-30-2001, 07:13 AM
well i think it would be pretty stupid for any provider to blast a client in a review (unless he did something very wrong) , it would be a death keel to her business. kinda like outting a client. if it's jus harmless fun like A1n's was then whats the big deal.

btw EZ....who reviewed you......A1N? you wouldn't be the holder of that remote control would you?

One Eyed Trouser Trout
01-30-2001, 07:29 AM
What do I have to hide?

I play, I pay, I am kind and considerate until the lady becomes a bitch and crosses the line....not mentioning names.

I mean, seriously, everybody knows my penis is often confused with my pubic hair, and I"m comfortable with that. I mean, get real, I'm not John Wayne Bobbitt here.

If we could all treat ladies like we're being reviewed, we'd be much nicer guys...wouldn't we?

Carl M
01-30-2001, 07:37 AM
I have had a couple providers say they were going to review me. One time Shauna told me she was going to put me on her site as an oral expert for women- I guess she thought it was too crazy an idea- I didn't!

[Edited by Carl M on 01-30-2001 at 11:38 AM]

HornDogBuddah
01-30-2001, 08:05 AM
I just don't get it. Why would a client ever agree to a "serious" review of his performance? (And if you're only talking about a "non-serious" review, why bother asking what others think?) What purpose would it serve? IMHO, when clients review providers, they should do it as a service to other clients -- the provided information may help other potential buyers decide on purchasing the services offered. If the review is favorable and promotes additional business for the provider, great! If otherwise, so be it. The review should not be strictly as a service to the provider. The only caveat is that the review should be accurate and objective (as if that is possible), and not malicious or mean spirited nor fawning or sycophantic. Obviously, reviews should not be self-written nor self-serving. Also, one of the crucial characteristics of a useful review is the contact information -- name, telephone number, e-mail address, etc. Reviews of anonymous providers would be ridiculous. Therefore, wouldn't the same hold true for reviews of clients by providers? What purpose would they serve if crucial identification is not provided? If the client's name (and other identifying information, such as phone number, etc.) is kept confidential (as we would all want it to be), what good would a review be? If the purpose of the review is to warn other providers about a client's dangerous or criminal behavior, isn't identifying the specific client an important issue for the provider?

Are you really considering creating an environment that encourages or supports providers' outing of clients?

[Edited by HornDogBuddah on 01-30-2001 at 12:06 PM]

wimpy
01-30-2001, 08:19 AM
Horn,

First of all no provider would give a review if it was bad. That would be suicide on the providers part. Second, it was brought up some what in a jest but a little bit of seriousness sprinkled in.

The thought is that I have seen this provider many times. We have had excellent sessions. I have always written in glowing terms about her. She knows other providers I have seen. And very rarely do I have a bad session.

Ozzy
01-30-2001, 08:24 AM
just think of the upside.......

a provider writes a glowing review of you and your *immense* talents. the next day your mailbox is stuffed with e-mails from all the girls wanting some of your lovin, and willing to pay *you* for it.

ok, so it's wishful thinking........but a man can dream can't he ?

One Eyed Trouser Trout
01-30-2001, 09:33 AM
Ozzy...

Being that you have dentures, are you still giving gum jobs?

Inquiring minds wanna know

Ozzy
01-30-2001, 09:41 AM
i had this girl once take out her retainer and it held her two or three upper front false teeth. once i got over the shock.........it turned out to be quite a spectacular bj.

btw she wasn't 80, she had been in an accident several years earlier and lost a few teeth.

i never had a full gum job however.

Carl M
01-30-2001, 09:44 AM
Mmm " Mr Crowley" I wonder- LOL!!

Ezrlove
01-30-2001, 09:44 AM
btw EZ....who reviewed you......






Vera Leigh



http://209.164.24.17/newyork/posts/18595.html

Geezy Muldoon
01-30-2001, 10:05 AM
truth

[Edited by Judge Crater on 07-25-2001 at 02:44 PM]

wimpy
01-30-2001, 10:16 AM
JC

Well put!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Slinky Bender
01-30-2001, 10:25 AM
I absolutely agree with hizzonner on this. So much so, that I have a suggestion: If anyone wants to submit such "reviews" to me in confidence, I will create a thread and post them with no attribution . It could be very interesting.

Geezy Muldoon
01-30-2001, 10:55 AM
anonymous

[Edited by Judge Crater on 07-25-2001 at 02:44 PM]

MrNY
01-30-2001, 10:57 AM
BUT, i (i mean she) was never mailicious.....

MrNY
01-30-2001, 10:59 AM
?

Ozzy
01-30-2001, 12:04 PM
i did say that i enjoyed your ss review.

Eye Won
01-30-2001, 01:00 PM
With all this talk about Providers doing reviews on clients I will go on the record to say I would have no problem with being the first to be reviewed....If Lisa feels up to it and has the time. I think i would be interesting for a provider to tell what she actually thought of the session.....Geeze I hope I'm not gonna be sorry I said this..........So How about it Lisa??????

John Blackthorne
01-30-2001, 02:26 PM
the person who pays gets to do the commentary on the service.

NOT the other way around.

jb

skagen
01-31-2001, 12:06 PM
Ditto on Blackthorne's post. The primary point of reviews isn't to write pornography, its to overcome the lack of info and to help the CUSTOMER avoid bad expereiences/wrong assumptions or ripoffs.

Last I checked, Consumer Reports and Edmunds weren't about to publish GM or Chrysler's reviews of customers.

Now if a customer clearly CONSENTS and DESIRESS a review, that's another story, and it might even be interesting.....

Geezy Muldoon
01-31-2001, 12:21 PM
years.


[Edited by Judge Crater on 07-25-2001 at 02:45 PM]

fletch
01-31-2001, 12:29 PM
sb, if you are going to allow providers to post anonymous reviews of clients I think you ought to allow clients to do the same.

justme
01-31-2001, 12:31 PM
You guys are kidding, right? None of you have heard of TransUnion. 'Consumer's' get reviewed all the time, it's just based on what makes a consumer good: his or her ability to pay on time.

Slinky Bender
01-31-2001, 12:52 PM
fletch,
It would be anonymous providers giving reviews of anonymous clients. I also have no problem with anonymous clients giving reviews of anonymous providers. However, in general, I think most of those who read this board would find the former much more informative than the latter.

Basically.........what the Judge said at 4:21.

guy catelli
01-31-2001, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by Judge Crater
....And I think that would be priceless to read,...


i concur. i read one once on some other board. it was deflating, but hilarious.

guy catelli
01-31-2001, 02:55 PM
(here's a {not misleadingly ;-} edited review of me by a nationally touring provider. what i edited out was her asking not to be flamed because the review was written in the midst of A1N's psychotic episode, which resulted in her rumor-mongering about me in emails to escorts:)

I think that after meeting Mr. Catelli, it is only
fair that I let other providers know what kind of person he is.

I like to think that I am an objective and fair person; if I had felt any discomfort or insecurity about meeting him
while in NYC, I would have cancelled immediately--but I didn't.

Mr. Catelli is very much a true gentlemen. Upon answering the door, he gave me some beautiful red roses and a hug. We had a bit of a chat about what I'd done in the city since I arrived, and we also discussed the expectations of the session. He was always polite and courteous, and was very sweet. We had a really nice time.

Ladies, if you were uncertain about his client potential before, I can only tell you what I know.....I think you will find that he is a very caring and considerate person....an excellent addition to your "Little Black Book".

I would like to mention before signing off that I was in no way coerced or encouraged to write this review--I just felt my afternoon was definitely worth writing about....I just felt it was only right to set the record straight about his behavior behind closed doors and in person. What a sweetie...!


[Edited by guy catelli on 01-31-2001 at 06:57 PM]

San_Te
01-31-2001, 02:59 PM
This thread is stupid and a complete waste of space. What objective would be served by providers reviewing clients?

One Eyed Trouser Trout
01-31-2001, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by San_Te
..........What objective would be served by providers reviewing clients?

Well, Mr. Studpuppy,

It would give me some insights as to whether you're as hot from their point of view as you appear from your escapades....

Girls....This guy San Te is a home wrecker from what I gather....BFE...good for several pops....spends like a wild man. Appears to be a great catch.

pswope
02-01-2001, 05:31 AM
Your Honor
While vetted reviews of Johns would be either
illuminating and educational to the naive and uninformed or validate certains notions to the cynical,I submit that ultimately the effort would be counterproductive,if not futlie.
Commercial sex is much about fantasy,illusion,and(unfortunately)delusion,as we learn from reading the boards. Suspension of disbelief(or fantasy)is a critical element to a john optimizing his commercial experience.
If the ladies were to be boldly honest,this for the most part would only serve to burst the bubble of many johns,who for that hour fancy themselves to be Don Juan. Of course,that would be counterproductive to their business interests.
As my proffer I submit a thread on a similiar type board, LAIF,where a California working girl posted a Day in my Life thread discussing in graphic detail her various sessions. When it became evident that her sessions were choreographed like a Michael Jackson video,several of her Johns freaked and vowed never to see her againbecause their illussion of speicalness had been shattered.
Judge
I acknowledge that there are certain ladies or particuliar sessions,where the elements of human attraction are there and the couple can have a sexual liason,which transcends the normal limits of commercial sex. But I submit,that is the exception(unless you happen to be Wimpy).
Finally
There are ladies,who are honest enough to have these conversations in the context of a face to face meeting. I've had several of these conversations and emerged the better for it.
_____________________________________________
* Paraphrase from Jack Nicholson in A few Good Men

[Edited by pswope on 02-01-2001 at 09:34 AM]

Julienyc
02-02-2001, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by skagen
Ditto on Blackthorne's post. The primary point of reviews isn't to write pornography, its to overcome the lack of info and to help the CUSTOMER avoid bad expereiences/wrong assumptions or ripoffs.

Last I checked, Consumer Reports and Edmunds weren't about to publish GM or Chrysler's reviews of customers.

Now if a customer clearly CONSENTS and DESIRESS a review, that's another story, and it might even be interesting.....

I am sure that some providers might use this to get Pay Back for her bad reviews. They may totally try to humiliate the poor client for not tipping. The smart business providers will give excellent reviews. The sweet ones will leave any thing bad out of the review because they would not want to hurt a clients feelings. Honesty can be tough ,it seems a little touchy doesn't it?

HornDogBuddah
02-02-2001, 02:20 PM
Julie, your reply is right on. Providers reviewing clients would be silly, pointless and, unless well written, tedious to read. Now, if a provider were to group her experiences with clients (note, I said best experiences, not idle fantasies) into, say, three categories (e.g., a) top 10 best, b) typical but eminently satisfactory, and c) these are examples of why it can be j-o-b [but not to include the psychos or really off-the-wall incidents from which we could learn nothing about our own behavior]) I think we dolts would find it not only entertaining but also informative.

But, you're a business woman and you no doubt think the investment in time and effort would not be paid back. (ROI and all that.)

Ozzy
02-02-2001, 03:23 PM
to tell you the truth, after reading adrianas infamous review of SS on *** a while back......it made me want to meet her all the more.

obviously a review of a client would have to be tongue in cheek and with a lot of humor. i don't see a problem with a well written and interesting one like A1N's. there was no mention of any act, but of an interesting night out(scores).....shit if all the girls i tooled around the streets of ny with wrote reviews on our dates i'd save a lot of time typing.


i'd also be a legend.

robnotbob
02-03-2001, 11:19 AM
Oz: what makes you think you're not??

You are in my eyes...

Ozzy
02-03-2001, 12:48 PM
thanks rob, but since your me.....doesn't that make me a legend in my own mind. ;)

guy catelli
02-04-2001, 07:53 AM
Originally posted by guy catelli
Originally posted by Judge Crater
....And I think that would be priceless to read,...


i concur. i read one once on some other board. it was deflating, but hilarious.


[what follows was posted to another board that was *not* *** or JAG:]

Here's A Client Review From The Secret Provider's Board

Posted by Ex-Playmate on June 03, 2000 at 10:44:46:

I snipped the clients personal info to protect his identity.

Client Name: (snip)
Handle:Sully
Email address: (snip)
Work #: (snip)
Cell #: (snip)
Home#: N/A

Where did you see client?
My place

If outcall, give address:
N/A

Type Of Session:
Escort

What Classifiation Of Client Is He?:
ATM With A Pulse

Refer To List And Pick A Phrase That Best Describes Him:
"Have Beer Can And Condom Will Travel"

How Much Did He Pay And For How Long?: $400 for 1 hour

Could more cash be sucked out of him?
Probably, he's pretty desperate.

Actual length of appointment? 1 hour

Height: maybe 5'11'' or 6'.0" but can't recall exactly

Weight: Pudgy

General Appearance: basically non-descript, NOT goodlooking, blends into the wall type

Penis: small and curved to the side, not memorable

Hygiene: good

Does he have body odor, if so where? No

How strong? N/A

Body Type and Musculature: marshmallow type, pudge with no muscle tone, doesn't appear to
exercise, couch-potato physique

Describe Ass: Looks like it belongs on a 70 year old Chinese soldier.

Describe Personality: Bland, boring

Did He Give Your Oral?: Yes

Choose An Expression From The List To Describe His Going Down On You:
"When Harry Met Sally"

Would You See Client Again?:
If I was strapped for cash maybe.

Does He See Providers By Choice Or Necessity? Definately by necessity. During a vulnerable
moment he confessed his wife won't touch him anymore. I felt sorry for him.

Is He A Trick Or A Client?: Definately a trick

How long did it take him to climax?:
Once I got down to business he came so soon it was over in 3 minutes, tops.

(snip)

Ozzy
02-04-2001, 08:52 AM
thanks for removing my name guy.

but i'm not married.




ATM With A Pulse

this quote is a classic.......

robnotbob
02-04-2001, 11:29 AM
Oz: I forgot I was you..I don't even know if I'M me. But that's another topic.

guy catelli
02-04-2001, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by Ozzy:
thanks for removing my name, guy.

no problem, Oz ... my heart goes out to you. but, try an' look on the bright side. she did say you have good hygiene.

but, i'm not married.

she's a good girl, Oz -- she was trying to further disguise your identity from the general public. of course, she did supply your personal info on the escorts-only board. this could not be helped.

ATM With A Pulse

you're a standup guy, Oz -- using yourself to shield the indentity of the real client. but, to those who know him, that line was a dead giveaway to the real client's indentity.

this quote is a classic.......

Oz, you're a classic. if you hadn't come along, board operators would have had to invent you, to boost their ratings. {hmmm}

ps i've never seen When Harry Met Sally http://us.imdb.com/Title?0098635

the reference is apparently sufficiently well known to escorts to be used as one of the choices offered on the drop-down menu of a client-review form. can someone describe for me the scene in the movie that the form is referring to?



[Edited by guy catelli on 02-04-2001 at 04:30 PM]

Ozzy
02-04-2001, 01:13 PM
only thing i can think of is the orgasm scene when meg ryan shows billy crystl that a woman can fake it and a guy not relize the difference. she did this in the middle of a coffee shop with some old bags watching.......it's the only memorable scene from the movie.



ozzy...............who's never had a woman make those noises in bed.

guy catelli
02-04-2001, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by Ozzy
only thing i can think of is the orgasm scene when meg ryan shows billy crystl that a woman can fake it and a guy not relize the difference. she did this in the middle of a coffee shop with some old bags watching.......it's the only memorable scene from the movie.

ozzy...............who's never had a woman make those noises in bed.

ah, of course! although i didn't see the movie, i did see that particular scene in the trailers -- which is how i knew the movie wasn't for me.

so, returning to the client-review by the anonymous ex-Playmate, the analogy was to how much she was fakin' it -- not his specific techinque.

personally, Oz, all of mine have done soft, but excited, moaning, rather than screaming. but, i don't go by the sound -- i go by the twitching and the bucking. and, to tell the truth, i find it hard to keep the tip of my tongue on the guitar strings when the guitar is on the back of a galloping filly -- especially since my face is usually soaking wet by that point.

i think a special thread with its own directory on the subject of client fluency en francaise would be very useful. maybe some of the escorts would be willing to help out.

personally, i would like to know what Inga's advice would be. i feel that if i didn't do it just the way she likes it, then i would be in a lot of trouble ;)