Fantasy Raided [Archive]

lawyer101

11-02-2003, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by rangerNY
http://www.wnbc.com/news/2603631/detail.html

The place was padlocked last night, a few girls were arrested, and they're closed right now.

I knew this was going to happen, so this is why I stopped going to Fantasy. The last time I was there I had 5 girls offer to fuck me for $100 or give me a blow job for $50. To me that is disgusting. I am not going near a chick that is fucking guys for $100. After that expierence, I never went back to Fantasy. I made Club Babylon my "stomping" grounds. Based on some recent reviews it looks like Club Babylon is following in the steps of Fantasy. I like Club Babylon, but if they are going to be letting the girls do whatever they want, then I am going to have to wait for X-Dreams to re-open. Not for nothing, but Mike ran a clean business and only let his girls offer handjobs. Thats what I liked about X-Dreams. Hopefully, Club Babylon management reads the article about Fantasy and decides to do the "right thing" and limit what the girls are allowed to do. It would be a shame to see Club Babylon close down.

qb14

11-02-2003, 03:04 PM

I think that the swingers and gay rooms are probably more of the problem than the lap dance areas as far as the raid was concerned.

I think that Fantasy management knew that something was about to happen. On Thursday, I was told by one of the girls that she wasn't allowed to anything more than HR. Even Russian was off the menu.

Funny, there was no Tyjuana, Mabel or Passion on Friday's schedule. With given names like Tyjuana and Passion, do you think that the parents of these girls knew that they would grow up to be strippers?

pjorourke

11-02-2003, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by qb14
With given names like Tyjuana and Passion, do you think that the parents of these girls knew that they would grow up to be strippers?

And you think those are their real given names?

qb14

11-02-2003, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by pjorourke
And you think those are their real given names?

From the Associated Press article:
"Three women, Tyjuana Wilson, Of Hempstead; Mabel Moreta, of the Bronx; and Passion Jones, of White Plains; were arrested for prostitution. Jones was also charged with possessing the drug Ecstasy."

Yes, I believe that the Associated Press would be reporting names from arrest reports, rather than their "stripper names".

lawyer101

11-02-2003, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by qb14
I think that the swingers and gay rooms are probably more of the problem than the lap dance areas as far as the raid was concerned.

3 strippers were still arrested which means that they did raid the lap dance rooms. Anyone from UG could have been there when this happened. Thats the scary thing about the whole situation. The last thing that any of us needs is to get arrested for being involved in an illegal act of prostitution.

genius

11-03-2003, 04:24 AM

Originally posted by qb14
I think that the swingers and gay rooms are probably more of the problem than the lap dance areas as far as the raid was concerned.

More of a problem for whom?

Seems to me the biggest problem for the place was no smoke alarms and no sprinklers.

Sorry to seem like being a Monday morning quarterback, but if I were running a place that was unpopular with the powers to be I would make sure every fire exit door lighted sign was working, fire alarms and extinguishers were to code, handicap parking signs were straight, etc. You can fight the other charges but not the "unsafe" building that was padlocked for fire code violations.

Should I ever pick up a SW, for example, I tell her to put on her seat belt and make sure she didnt have any open containers of booze on her..

justlooking

11-03-2003, 07:37 AM

I believe Passion's stage name was Ethel.

justlooking

11-03-2003, 07:41 AM

I've never been to any of the places you talk about on LI. But my experience in the City has been that I've never been to a $40 handjob place where women weren't fucking guys for $100, as you so poetically put it. Anyway, handjobs probably count as prostitution anyway. If you really can't stand any chance at all of being arrested (BTW, how many customers did they haul in?), you've got to stay away from those places entirely.

ExLS

11-03-2003, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by justlooking
I've never been to any of the places you talk about on LI. But my experience in the City has been that I've never been to a $40 handjob place where women weren't fucking guys for $100, as you so poetically put it. Anyway, handjobs probably count as prostitution anyway. If you really can't stand any chance at all of being arrested (BTW, how many customers did they haul in?), you've got to stay away from those places entirely.

According to some cops, hj are misdemeanor(sp?)

ExLS

11-03-2003, 08:19 AM

This place was busted before for the same reason. GUYS, it is election time. Crap like this ALWAYS happen this time of year. Fuuny though, An old dancer of Fantasy used have a couple of Town of Brookhaven politicans as her regulars(Some of them still in office)
Fantasy will re-open as will all AMPS

Cat_Ballou

11-03-2003, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by Latino Stud
According to some cops, hj are misdemeanor(sp?) I don't remember the exact details offhand, but a lawyer/massage client explained it to me as essentially being the difference between sex and sexual contact (i.e. no penetration), and it is a lesser charge... (And no, I don't know if BJs are in the same category or not...)

AirTraveler

11-03-2003, 08:31 AM

Originally posted by qb14
I think that the swingers and gay rooms are probably more of the problem than the lap dance areas as far as the raid was concerned.

All the people in those rooms were let go. They were all adults engaging in non-paid consensual acts. The DA couldn't find an inditable offense to hang on any of the members of those rooms.

BTW the ad for Fantasy is running in today's Newsday.

ExLS

11-03-2003, 08:31 AM

Originally posted by Cat_Ballou
I don't remember the exact details offhand, but a lawyer/massage client explained it to me as essentially being the difference between sex and sexual contact (i.e. no penetration), and it is a lesser charge... (And no, I don't know if BJs are in the same category or not...)

True. I was qouted by SCPD while questioned for the 1699 Rte 112 bust. This is how I konw

helping hand

11-03-2003, 10:55 AM

I usually don't post on these boards
but I thought this was important info for you folks. These are excepts from NY state laws I found. If I understand it correctly, even paying someone to grab your "boy" with your pants on falls under prostitution.

Of course one could argue that all you did was pay for an erotic dance and that she got so turned on that she consented to do more without compensation. Try to explain this to your wife / girlfriend...

By the way, if a girl asks for more $ for a h/j , b/j - be very careful. Without a doubt, this crosses that fine line. I hope this helps you guys (and girls)

As used in this article, "person who is patronized" means the person with whom the defendant engaged in sexual conduct or was to have engaged in sexual conduct pursuant to the understanding, or the person who was solicited or requested by the defendant to engage in sexual conduct.
S 230.03 Patronizing a prostitute in the fourth degree. A person is guilty of patronizing a prostitute in the fourth degree when he patronizes a prostitute. Patronizing a prostitute in the fourth degree is a class B misdemeanor.

S 130.00 Sex offenses; definitions of terms. The following definitions are applicable to this article: 1. "Sexual intercourse" has its ordinary meaning and occurs upon any penetration, however slight. 2. "Deviate sexual intercourse" means sexual conduct between persons not married to each other consisting of contact between the penis and the anus, the mouth and penis, or the mouth and the vulva. 3. "Sexual contact" means any touching of the sexual or other intimate parts of a person not married to the actor for the purpose of gratifying sexual desire of either party. It includes the touching of the actor by the victim, as well as the touching of the victim by the actor, whether directly or through clothing.

pswope

11-03-2003, 11:16 AM

I guess the h/j johns had a strong lobbyist.

liguy99

11-03-2003, 12:52 PM

News12 ran the story and they interviewed a nearby store owner/worker...who supposedly complained about Fantasy and everything that goes on. Do we blame him or ourselves for posting everything here?

iusedtobeone1

11-03-2003, 02:30 PM

I have it on good authority that Club Babylon is the next place they are gonna hit.

qb14

11-03-2003, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by lawyer101
3 strippers were still arrested which means that they did raid the lap dance rooms.

Not according to the article from the NY Post http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/9817.htm

"Busted, however, were dancers Tyjuana Wilson, 30, of Hempstead; Mabel Moreta, 23, of The Bronx; and Passion Jones, 29, of White Plains, all charged with prostitution after propositioning undercover cops. "

qb14

11-03-2003, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by AirTraveler
All the people in those rooms were let go. They were all adults engaging in non-paid consensual acts. The DA couldn't find an inditable offense to hang on any of the members of those rooms.

I meant as far as the reason for the raid. Other than the charges against the 3 girls (who apparently propositioned undercover cops) the other charges were building code (smoke detectors and such) and zoning violations, based on the store being identified as a video store rather than a sex club.

ridemewell

11-03-2003, 05:31 PM

I rode by there today!! I was told by mangement!! They will open in a week. Stated it was only fire code violations!!

howudoin334

11-03-2003, 11:48 PM

Rumor has it that all these type of places with be raided between now and January.

So be aware

nycstripclubs

11-04-2003, 03:23 AM

Originally posted by lawyer101
3 strippers were still arrested which means that they did raid the lap dance rooms. Anyone from UG could have been there when this happened. Thats the scary thing about the whole situation. The last thing that any of us needs is to get arrested for being involved in an illegal act of prostitution.

Lawyer101, I have never heard of or seen (having been present during several raids) the police do more then a warrant check on any patron. If you read the articles, the manager was arrested on a public nuicance charge. The dancers who propositioned the officers are out of luck.

I don't know what kind of lawyer you are, but a LAPDANCE is considered prostitution in this state. There is absolutely no doubt that HR is.

230.00 Prostitution

A person is guilty of prostitution when such person engages or agrees or offers to engage in sexual conduct with another person in return for a fee. Prostitution is a class B Misdemeanor.

230.02 Patronizing a prostitute; definitions

1. A person patronizes a prostitute when:
(a) Pursuant to a prior understanding, he pays a fee to another person as compensation for such person or a third person having engaged in sexual conduct with him; or
(b) He pays or agrees to pay a fee to another person pursuant to an understanding that in return therefor such person or a third person will engage in sexual conduct with him; or
(c) He solicits or requests another person to engage in sexual conduct with him in return for a fee.
2. As used in this article, "person who is patronized" means the person with whom the defendant engaged in sexual conduct or was to have engaged in sexual conduct pursuant to the understanding, or the person who was solicited or requested by the defendant to engage in sexual conduct.

You should be aware of just what you are doing in place like Wet Dreams / Club Babylon, X-Dreams etc. even if actual penetrative sex isn't going on with YOU.

What you might fail to realize is that MWV. If you accept HR from a given dancer and are content to pay for it that's all they'll do. Those who make it clear they refuse to pay unless they get more, usually do. For the most part, dancers will do the least they have to do to get your money.

BTW, there are many dancers from the suffolk club circuit (sorry, I won't give up names) who also do the underground club circuit on their off days. You're deluding yourself if you think they don't give it up for under $100 on a regular basis. They do.

ExLS

11-04-2003, 08:22 AM

If Fantasy got busted, Club Babylon and the others will be next. It is time to stay low for a while

qb14

11-04-2003, 04:00 PM

justlooking

11-05-2003, 07:42 AM

Historically customers don't get arrested in these raids.

But I don't think qb is right that you couldn't get arrested if you're found having sex in a known house of prostitution because they wouldn't have seen any money change hands. They only need probable cause for an arrest. And (this is talking fairlyland stuff now, because the case would never go to trial) if the case went to trial, they could use circumstantial evidence to prove payment. (Just because you deny it doesn't mean anyone is compelled to believe you.)

mdown729

11-05-2003, 01:54 PM

Another political raid. Was this a big quality of life issue? Anyone complaining? Nice job by the SCPD, guess the fire houses were all busy that night. these places are in industrial areas for a reason, so they arent a nuisance to homeowners. Although I never liked the place, there were doing no harm. I hope all the like places stay low for a while, the girls should know who is a cop, stick to the regs. Then if we get raided, at least we should have a few seconds to pull our pants back up! I saw this happen in the city in the mid 90's, and it was a ghost town for a lot of years. I guess the main message to my favorite providers is "be careful out there".

qb14

11-05-2003, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by mdown729
I hope all the like places stay low for a while, the girls should know who is a cop, stick to the regs.

Well, the Club Babylon forum has suddenly disappeared, although their banner ad is still running. I think that was a good move.

rangerNY

11-05-2003, 06:56 PM

Well, the Club Babylon forum has suddenly disappeared, although their banner ad is still running. I think that was a good move.

I have nothing against CB, but I am finding it quite amusing that a place that makes it living selling handjobs was out there marketing like McDonalds.

Radio, newspaper, and open Internet forums like UG, all used to drive growth? I'm thinking that someone on the CB team was taking his/her business degree a bit too far over there. A jack shack can never hope to sustain the same kind of extreme revenue growth that it sees when it first opens. The increased exposure that comes with that growth ultimately kills the golden goose.

Wanna get wealthy selling handjobs? Open places like CB in 25 different cities, and keep them all LOW PROFILE. No individual club will make you wealthy, but combine them all, and you're doing OK for yourself.

qb14

11-05-2003, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by rangerNY
The increased exposure that comes with that growth ultimately kills the golden goose.

I agree. I made a similar point when they were having the radio broadcast from Wet Dreams.

While I really appreciated their participation here, I questioned the logic behind that visible participation. However, even with their departure, I hope they continue to monitor the board, as I think it can help them identify things that they are doing right and wrong.

BIGHEAD

11-07-2003, 12:53 PM

I spoke to one of the counter people and was told the forum would be back in a week or two,after some "re-design".

daveyboy

11-07-2003, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by BIGHEAD
I spoke to one of the counter people and was told the forum would be back in a week or two,after some "re-design".

In a recent "jackshack" visit, I was told that "someone" was going to be monitoring these web forums and removing open references to explicit sexual activities, to try to tone things down a bit. I'm not sure who monitors what on UG, but I suppose this makes some sense.

Does anybody know how many people are actually looking at these forum posts? Is it hundreds, thousands?

Which LE group raided Fantasy? Would it be the same jurisdiction as CB?

I also noticed a sign in front of CB saying there was going to be some kind of zoning hearing coming up...so maybe Mike's claims at XD about limited zoning opportunities in that area were not just a smoke screen.

Any news about XD?

billyS

11-07-2003, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by daveyboy
In a recent "jackshack" visit, I was told that "someone" was going to be monitoring these web forums and removing open references to explicit sexual activities, to try to tone things down a bit. I'm not sure who monitors what on UG, but I suppose this makes some sense.

This is a very grey area and brings up the question of who this board serves. I have always used this board to get info on the cheapest way to find sexual acts. One of the main things I like about this board over *** was that you really never had to tip-toe around shit with bullshit terms like Frank Sinatra and Harry Reasoner. This board helped spread the news that girls were giving HJ at X-Dreams and made some of the girls step up their game. Some of us use this board to give each other info on who is hot and who is not. On where the action is. If the clubs are censoring the info then what good is it? Look at *** now. All it is is advertisements. I have no problem with people advertising, I know UG needs to make money somehow but readers will have to realize that to get the truth about what is going on in the VIP rooms they will have to back channel. I can see CB's point because of all the heat, but they were aware of how reviews were written when they came on. They knew certain guys wrote expclicit reviews.

qb14

11-07-2003, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by daveyboy
I also noticed a sign in front of CB saying there was going to be some kind of zoning hearing coming up...so maybe Mike's claims at XD about limited zoning opportunities in that area were not just a smoke screen.

The zoning thing supposedly has to do with the parking lot.

lawyer101

11-08-2003, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by daveyboy
In a recent "jackshack" visit, I was told that "someone" was going to be monitoring these web forums and removing open references to explicit sexual activities, to try to tone things down a bit. I'm not sure who monitors what on UG, but I suppose this makes some sense.

Does anybody know how many people are actually looking at these forum posts? Is it hundreds, thousands?

Which LE group raided Fantasy? Would it be the same jurisdiction as CB?

I also noticed a sign in front of CB saying there was going to be some kind of zoning hearing coming up...so maybe Mike's claims at XD about limited zoning opportunities in that area were not just a smoke screen.

Any news about XD?

I was also told the CB will be monitoring UG and will have all refrences to sexual activies in their club deleted from the board.

I believe it was the SCPD that raided Fantasy(qb14 would probably know the answer to that question). If it was SCPD then they would also have jurisdiction over CB.

I'm not getting into the zoning situation as I have heard both sides of the story on this one and I don't know which is reality and which is fantasy.

As far as X-Dreams re-opening, it will happen but not for a while. Mike is re-building the lapdance area first and plans to have the girls start working while he re-builds the adult video store as well as the peep area. I don't know how classy X-Dreams will look but I do look foward to getting dances from my girls again.

MRJACKCRACK

11-08-2003, 05:16 PM

I am new to this board but I have been reading it often over the last few months. In reply to Lawyer101's comment I have it on good authority that XDreams will be re-opening later this upcoming week or earlier the following week. The "zoning" signs at the other peep place have to do with an upcomming hearing regarding 2 adult venues operating in an area that is only zoned for 1- I was told that XD has the proper cert's and the other one does not and will not be able to get them either. It's going to be very interesting over the few months.

qb14

11-08-2003, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by lawyer101
I believe it was the SCPD that raided Fantasy(qb14 would probably know the answer to that question). If it was SCPD then they would also have jurisdiction over CB.

According to articles that I have read, it was SCPD and fire marshals. I don't know if all of the code violations were fire violations, so it's possible that people from other agencies that are able to cite them with other code violations were also there.

mdown729

11-08-2003, 06:37 PM

Only SCPD has the jurisdiction to raid an establishment, so it was them. They were obviously tipped off, and that is where the questions come from. Were they looking on here? Was it a disgruntled customer, or the story that is going around, a co-tenant tired of the cars and traffic? Whatever the case may be, these things arent usually one and done. CB can expect a visit soon, as well as xdreams when it reopens. I just keep seeing the NYC scene, now coming back after years of being pretty dormant, and now Long Island is going to be under the scope. Looks like I will be traveling into the city more often on "business" now, especially in the evening hours. Be safe everyone!

lawyer101

11-09-2003, 10:46 AM

rosarioWD

11-09-2003, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by MRJACKCRACK
I am new to this board but I have been reading it often over the last few months. In reply to Lawyer101's comment I have it on good authority that XDreams will be re-opening later this upcoming week or earlier the following week. The "zoning" signs at the other peep place have to do with an upcomming hearing regarding 2 adult venues operating in an area that is only zoned for 1- I was told that XD has the proper cert's and the other one does not and will not be able to get them either. It's going to be very interesting over the few months. The story is that X-Dreams had their permit pulled because of "mistakes" in their parking calculations.At this point to comply with the town regulations on parking they need around 140 parking spots,they have around 15.So what Mike is going to do is open without permits& fight the town presumably.The only problem with this strategy is that Nancy Street has no legal on street parking,so when the town gets complaints ,they come down and ticket cars which are illegally parked.Try to explain why you were over there to the wife.Good luck.The only variance CB needs is parking and it is a very minor one,once CB has it they will be the only permitted adult business within a 1/2 mile radius.

MRJACKCRACK

11-09-2003, 04:23 PM

I was told that adverts are coming this week- doors to re-open end of this week or early next week.

smoke2

11-10-2003, 02:13 PM

Anyone know if Desire was one of the girls arrested during the raid?

TC123

11-11-2003, 09:19 AM

Anybody hear from Sinful 7 since this happened?

Slinky Bender

11-11-2003, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by rosarioWD
The story is that X-Dreams had their permit pulled because of "mistakes" in their parking calculations.At this point to comply with the town regulations on parking they need around 140 parking spots,they have around 15.So what Mike is going to do is open without permits& fight the town presumably.The only problem with this strategy is that Nancy Street has no legal on street parking,so when the town gets complaints ,they come down and ticket cars which are illegally parked.Try to explain why you were over there to the wife.Good luck.The only variance CB needs is parking and it is a very minor one,once CB has it they will be the only permitted adult business within a 1/2 mile radius.

Yeah, but I hear they have a very large "smoking section".

Cloud Nine

11-11-2003, 09:49 AM

I guess you found your sense of humor on your break?

genius

11-12-2003, 06:14 AM

Originally posted by rosarioWD
....So what Mike is going to do is open without permits& fight the town presumably.The only problem with this strategy is that Nancy Street has no legal on street parking,so when the town gets complaints ,they come down and ticket cars which are illegally parked. The no parking rules are not as cut and dry as you would think. In older industrial areas like that there simply isnt enough parking and everyone parks on the street. They cant just ticket cars in front of one building if there is no parking on the street. They have to ticket everyone.

In fact a few years back (in a different part of Town of Babylon) the same situation existed on the street my company was on and the only building with sufficent parking filed a complaint with the town. The police came down and gave warning tickets to everyone parked on the street. My company had 50 employees and 15 legal parking places as was similar to the other 40 companies on the street.

I went door to door to each company, got a petition to the town that explained that the companies could not stay in business if their employees couldnt get to work. The police tickets stopped and at the next town meeting the street was changed to parking on one side.

lawyer101

11-12-2003, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by MRJACKCRACK
I was told that adverts are coming this week- doors to re-open end of this week or early next week.

You are right. X-Dreams is scheduled to open their doors on November 17th.

lawyer101

11-12-2003, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by smoke2
Anyone know if Desire was one of the girls arrested during the raid?

Desire was not one of the girls that was arrested during the raid.

rosarioWD

11-12-2003, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by genius
The no parking rules are not as cut and dry as you would think. In older industrial areas like that there simply isnt enough parking and everyone parks on the street. They cant just ticket cars in front of one building if there is no parking on the street. They have to ticket everyone.

In fact a few years back (in a different part of Town of Babylon) the same situation existed on the street my company was on and the only building with sufficent parking filed a complaint with the town. The police came down and gave warning tickets to everyone parked on the street. My company had 50 employees and 15 legal parking places as was similar to the other 40 companies on the street.

I went door to door to each company, got a petition to the town that explained that the companies could not stay in business if their employees couldnt get to work. The police tickets stopped and at the next town meeting the street was changed to parking on one side. When it comes to adult use,I'm sorry to say they are not so forgiving.

genius

11-13-2003, 06:49 AM

Originally posted by rosarioWD
When it comes to adult use,I'm sorry to say they are not so forgiving. They may not have much choice. Either there are parked cars on the street or not and they either get tickets or not. If they give tickets then the 40 other businesses on the street have no place for many of their employees to park. The town may be puritanical, but they arent stupid enough to hurt all the other tax paying and job providing businesses because they have a beef with one of them.

Now as far as other forms of harrasment, such as fire code violations and the like, thats another story.

rosarioWD

11-13-2003, 04:10 PM

lawyer101

11-13-2003, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by genius
They may not have much choice. Either there are parked cars on the street or not and they either get tickets or not. If they give tickets then the 40 other businesses on the street have no place for many of their employees to park. The town may be puritanical, but they arent stupid enough to hurt all the other tax paying and job providing businesses because they have a beef with one of them.

Now as far as other forms of harrasment, such as fire code violations and the like, thats another story.

Genius,
Where have you been? Good to see you posting again...:)

I don't know anything about the parking issue with businesses in commercial areas, but why would X-Dreams need to have 140 parking spots? These places do get crowded, but I cant see them needing that many parking spots. I assume that it just may be a requirement by the town, but I must say that it is a bit crazy. As far as parking my car on the streets, I have never had to do that. Both Club Babylon and X-Dreams(when they were at the old location) always had enough parking in the parking lot. The only time that I have problems with parking is on Fridays when I go during the day. For some reason, I guess that is a busy time and the parking lot is always full. As far as all the other days, I have not had any problems.

genius

11-14-2003, 04:02 AM

Originally posted by lawyer101
...... but why would X-Dreams need to have 140 parking spots? ......I assume that it just may be a requirement by the town, but I must say that it is a bit crazy. ......The only time that I have problems with parking is on Fridays when I go during the day. For some reason, I guess that is a busy time ......
The 140 # seemed strange to me also.

Its not so much as a busy time for Xdreams/Babylon as during the day is when most of the employees of the other companies are working. So thats when there is a parking problem. Also other companies share the building and they are closed at night.

cribson

11-14-2003, 10:44 AM

Who should I see tonight? Robin, Jessica, Candy, Pressley, or Jeanette? The CB forum is down so I need some help.

ExecMgr

11-14-2003, 11:55 AM

Robin is on the tall side, but has a nice body and Jessica is a WOC with a great body and nice personality. Rumor has it Candi and Janette don't have the best personalities; Presley is older than the rest (about 30 yrs old compared to the rest which are 19-24) and has a nice body, but small boobs and an average personality. Personally, I'd go for either Robin or Jessica if I were you.

dougf

11-14-2003, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by ExecMgr
Robin is on the tall side, but has a nice body and Jessica is a WOC with a great body and nice personality. Rumor has it Candi and Janette don't have the best personalities; Presley is older than the rest (about 30 yrs old compared to the rest which are 19-24) and has a nice body, but small boobs and an average personality. Personally, I'd go for either Robin or Jessica if I were you.

What is WOC? I never saw this reference before.

pjorourke

11-14-2003, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by dougf
What is WOC? I never saw this reference before.
Woman Of Color

ExLS

11-14-2003, 03:30 PM

You were with the raid if the phones are tapped by SCPD.

howudoin334

11-14-2003, 10:10 PM

ok, so whats happens to the guy that are getting the "dances" with these girls, do they get arrested, ticketed, etc?

ExLS

11-15-2003, 09:32 AM

Originally posted by howudoin334
ok, so whats happens to the guy that are getting the "dances" with these girls, do they get arrested, ticketed, etc?
probably nothing. I was questioned once. It was good cop, bad cop routine. I was questioned, but not arrested. Thery will threaten you with a misdeanmor If they don't read miranda rights or state you are arrested or why, it will be just intimadation.

lawyer101

11-16-2003, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by howudoin334
ok, so whats happens to the guy that are getting the "dances" with these girls, do they get arrested, ticketed, etc?

Based on the raid at Fantasy Video, none of the customers were arrested or given a ticket. Apparently they didn't even raid the lap dance rooms. They only arrested the girls who solicited prostitution to the under-cover cops. The girls who were doing dances with other customers were not bothered. I would assume that the customers may have been questioned, but that is about it. Until I hear that guys are getting arrested for being at places like CB or X-Dreams I will continue to go there.

If they didn't raid the lap dance rooms even after they arrested the 3 girls at Fantasy, then I can't see them raiding the lap dance rooms at Club Babylon or X-Dreams.

As far as the other thread goes with SCPD pulling guys over as they leave Club Babylon, I have not been bothered by them to date. I was at CB on Friday at around 11:00am and after waiting for my dance & getting my dance, I left at around 12:15pm. I also went back on Saturday at around 1:00pm and left CB at about 1:45pm. Both days I did not have any problems with any cops in the area.

BIGHEAD

11-17-2003, 04:02 AM

Originally posted by lawyer101
Based on the raid at Fantasy Video, none of the customers were arrested or given a ticket. Apparently they didn't even raid the lap dance rooms. They only arrested the girls who solicited prostitution to the under-cover cops. The girls who were doing dances with other customers were not bothered. I would assume that the customers may have been questioned, but that is about it. Until I hear that guys are getting arrested for being at places like CB or X-Dreams I will continue to go there.

If they didn't raid the lap dance rooms even after they arrested the 3 girls at Fantasy, then I can't see them raiding the lap dance rooms at Club Babylon or X-Dreams.

As far as the other thread goes with SCPD pulling guys over as they leave Club Babylon, I have not been bothered by them to date. I was at CB on Friday at around 11:00am and after waiting for my dance & getting my dance, I left at around 12:15pm. I also went back on Saturday at around 1:00pm and left CB at about 1:45pm. Both days I did not have any problems with any cops in the area. I was at CB on friday night around 9 pm and went in did my thing . When I came out I saw NO SIGNS of undercover cops in the paring lot and I was parked on the side.I think there is just to much paranoia because of the fantasy raid.Just for the record I know alot of cops & Idoubt they would tip their hand by pulling guys over,if a raid was planned.This thing started with a posting on SCL and I dont trust any info I see on that site.

billyS

11-17-2003, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by BIGHEAD
This thing started with a posting on SCL and I dont trust any info I see on that site.
Except that Iusedtobeone1 posted ON THIS BOArd that his freind got pulled over. I just talked with him and he confirmed it. I'll take his word anytime. Also someone posted that they were pulling guys over after they got to Edison.

ridemewell

11-18-2003, 05:01 AM

You don't have to believe it!! I was pulled over and trust me. It was stated that SCPD is going to clean up this sh**t. Buyer beware!!

Sinful7

11-18-2003, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by billyS
Except that Iusedtobeone1 posted ON THIS BOArd that his freind got pulled over. I just talked with him and he confirmed it. I'll take his word anytime. Also someone posted that they were pulling guys over after they got to Edison.

Remember that Club Babylon and Xdreams are in West Babylon,
but lets keep it real it is Wyandanch. That why people try to go the back way to Wellwood instead of Straightpath. See most of you guys drive in and out so you don't see that there is alot
of other illegal stuff going on around there. It the ghetto.
People be ditching stolen cars back there all types of shit.
See the dumps use to be back there so alot of underground
things are happening in that area besides "Happy Ending".
I am not saying the cops ain't watching the area, because they
are, and the 1st percent thinks they are the Heroes Percent.
I have been caught up with them a couple of times and they
are cockier than me. Just to put you guys on, when your in the
area watch out for your surrounding because that area has
been a red zone for a minute.