Sinful 7

[lawyer101]

I don’t need to go into great detail about what Seven looks like because she does have a webpage with her pictures on it. I would like to point out that her pictures do no do her justice, as she looks so much “hotter” in person. She is about 5’6 and very petite. She has a nice “tight” ass that “begs” to be grabbed…:) She has semi-long black hair that at times she wears it “up” and at times she wears it “down”(I prefer when she wears it down because I think it complements her beautiful face). She also has some of the “coolest” outfits (Although my preference is seeing her naked)…:)

Now onto the dance. Seven struts into the room looking as good as I have ever seen her. When she saw me she had a grin from “cheek to cheek”. She said to me “ You came for another out of body experience?”. My response “ Well, of Course..:)”. She then disrobed and went on to ask me why I was still dressed. My response was that I enjoyed it when she took my clothes off for me. So, Seven proceeds to take my clothes off. She then starts off by licking my left nipple and then she gave my right nipple some attention. She then went on to tell me that she enjoys dancing for me because “ I know all of the rules in the Garden of SIN”. So, she proceeds to grab a condom and put it on me. She then decides to jump on top of me and rub her pussy all over my cock. She then does this virtual-reality fuck position on me where her pussy is rubbing on my cock (its hard to explain, I guess you would have to experience it.) Please remember this is all virtual reality and no insertion occurs. So, while Seven is doing this, I decide to play with her tits. First the left then onto the right one. She had a big smile on her face as I was doing this and was releasing quiet little moans, which were really turning me on..:) So, she jumps down to my dick and starts licking my balls. She was “going to town”. She was licking and sucking them(just the balls nothing else). It felt so good. Then she took off the condom, and put some “lube” on my dick. Now the handjob has begun. Seven then looks up at me and smiles. I could tell by her smile that she was up to “no good”…:) Seven starts lowering her head towards my dick while keeping total eye contact with me. She then, starts letting her spit go all over my cock. She did this 3 times and every time her spit would reach my cock, I felt like I was going to explode. Seven could tell that I was ready to explode, so she “picked up the pace” of the handjob. She then started licking my balls again. So now she’s giving me a handjob and licking my balls. I remember looking down at her and she once again had this “big smile” on her face. I just lost it and my orgasm caused my entire body to shake. After I regained my composure, Seven told me “ Now that was an Out of Body Expierence!”

The one thing that separates Seven from all the other X-Dreams girls is her attitude. All the other girls “think” they are “the shit, but Seven, now that is a girl that “knows” she’s “the shit.

[Sinful7]

It a level of comfort with people you must understand.
People like Lawyer 101 and Billy believe in my study so
I am always tring to do new things to peek them. I can't
deny the level of intensity in my VIP room, but for each
one of my regular cliental I know what they Desire, and I
reach deep inside myself to give it to them. Lawyer 101
you know we have a very intense relationship with communication
on a regular basis you made it to that level of pleasure,
it like a ladder you climb with Seven, I remember all my
customer through the link method, and I remember what
happend the last time and you slow move up the ropes
to more intensity in the "Garden of S.I.N"

For the new guys don't worry, I have all types of shows to
peek your levels that I push each time. Lawyer 101 has
put in time and invested in the Idea of Sinful "7" Entertainment,
and he was rewarded. Those that show that they are interested
get rewarded.

[denalic]

whats the website?

[lawyer101]

Seven,
I’ve always said that you offer 2 types of dances. The “sensual” dance or the “crazy” dance. I guess it depends on the type of mood that you are in. I also think that maybe you try to “mix it up” for your regular customers, just so we can get a different show each time that we come to see you. No matter what your mood is, I always leave the VIP room with a smile on my face…;)

Speaking of your study, do you have any other information for us?
You know that I love hearing and reading about your studies…:)

[billyS]

Originally posted by denalic
whats the website?
http://sinful7.intranets.com/
Sign in as a guest, until you decide if you want to join, Then on the left column under announcments check out the one labeled 'Breaking U Off'. That, my friend, is Sinful7.

[escortworks]

pretty weird looking stuff but i like her artistic style on some of the videos ;)

[lawyer101]

Originally posted by escortworks
pretty weird looking stuff but i like her artistic style on some of the videos ;)

Seven was telling me that she loves making those videos. I would stay tuned because I’m sure that more will follow.

[Sinful7]

To all that dont know I am Sinful "7" Masters.....

I am in the Quest of Prime (7) for the Ultimate Sexual Experience,
I live for that moment when I peak and I am in Utopia released
from the chains of gravity, and soaring of the waves of exactsy,
mind lost in rippling senations, looking down on my body
working to push it to the next level an "Out of Body Experience"

I am a "Virtual-Reality Sexual Entertainer"
Holla' at your girl online or take out the time to see me live
and play in the "Garden of SIN" and Self Indulge -N- Desire.
and it DON"T STOP! video production is (Boom Banging)
come so the behind the scenes with Seven Masters.

Welcome! To all those that think out side the box....
If seeing is believing, than feeling is...
You have just got caught into the wind of Sinful "7" Masters;
The Storm is coming!

[lawyer101]

Seven,
You are a diva. If you ever decide to become a pornstar, I will be your biggest fan…:)

[Sinful7]

Just stay tuned into the website and I will keep feeding
you until your full. Before you know it you will be watching
SSN (Sinful Seven Network) like CNN

[billyS]

I went to the ‘dish’ tonight to lend my body to Seven Masters for some research in Zero Gravity Positions. On my last visit she told me to do some extra sit-ups to strength my abs so we could try some ideas she had. She was actually walking by the desk as I was coming up the stairs so I was greeted right away. She was in her, ‘I ‘m glad to be Seven’ mood tonight. Her eyes were bright and full of life and I knew she was down for fun. Once in the room, we started off with some kissing and hugging then I lifted her up and held her by her butt as I sucked her left tit into my mouth (just thinking, considering her size, build and taste of her pussy, she would be perfect for Bill F to do his standing 69 with). After I took care of the other tit she said she wanted her to take her shoes off but while she did this she played with my balls, licking them and sucking them. We warmed up (broke a sweat actually) licking and kissing each other all over. At one point she was riding me backwards and I was playing with her clit, this is when she was really sweating and getting wet but I made her stop ‘cause I wanted to play more and she did this relaxing thing where she ran her finger tips down my arms and chest so the feeling of cumming left but the boner lost nothing. We finished by trying a new Zero Gravity Positions. She rode me straight on, locked her legs into mine, and lined up her now wet pussy on my rod. She started bucking wildly and hard, groaning and sweating and getting that ‘Devilish’ look about her, as I squeezed her tits hard but then she lowered herself down so that her back was parallel to the floor, her arms stretched out towards the opposite wall. He legs were still locked into mine but it was her abs that were holding her up and then she started throwing her pelvis up in a grinding motion against my cock. It’s hard to explain but our genitals were at a 90 degree angle and with her leg and stomach muscles she was able to generate more then enough force to bring me home. Once she sensed I was completely done she raised herself up by her abs to pull close for some cool down affection which was a nice touch. During clean up and dressing she talked about all her ideas for her website and how much fun she was having on UG. Her enthusiasm for her project really makes her all the more attractive because it is nice being around someone that happy. It’s contagious.

[Sinful7]

Sex is a physical activity you are working every muscle in
the body contouring it into postions. The heart must
be condition to handle the long haul, and your muscle must
be as well. Once you take the time to condtion the body
to work in conjunction with the mind, let that door to
your sexual creativity set in, possibilites infinte. Like
numbers. "7"

[Cookyman]

Just got to say thanks to Billy S and Lawyer 101 for telling about Seven.
I took a ride yesterday to where she works and all I can say is WOW!!!!
Great time and a beautiful woman!!!!
I gotta say I'm looking forward to my next visit to the Garden of Sin!!!

[lawyer101]

Cookyman,
I will never “steer” you in the wrong direction with what girls to see at “the dish”…:)

Glad to hear you had a good time. Why not post a review? It seems like you were very satisfied with your “Out Of Body Experience”.

[Cookyman]

I'm just waiting to hear from her if its OK to post something about her. I'm sure the review will be up by the weekend.
Thanks again Billy S and Lawyer 101

[Sinful7]

When you walk into the "Garden of SIN" it like leaving
the world and it chaos behind the door when it closes.
My main focus is to redirect your attention from the
stress of the daily world for a little mental vaction where
you can take a moment out to indulge in your sexual
desire. When you spend time with me I am looking for
the way you respond to different types of stimuli, I am
very observant and I feed off the energy of my customers.
They feel comfortable with me to bring out the deep
desires and fetishes. I guess it a matter of choice; "7"
is like a Sexologist and the more you make me push
my creativity another step I take walking that thight
rope of the Laws on Sex.

I want to try those cookies Cookyman, Feel free to post as
you please just remember my boss and co-worker read this
and somethings are better left unsaid, Certain details
you are going to have to experience, there no words
sometime to descibe intense sexual activities. It just
a moment, the few seconds of Utopia

[billyS]

Originally posted by Sinful7
Certain details
you are going to have to experience, there no words
sometime to descibe intense sexual activities.
I always seem to be able to find the words. I love reveiwing my experiences in the Garden of S.I.N.

[Cookyman]

I found words to describe my visit to the "Garden Of Sin"
Outrageous, the best, terriffic, a dream come true!!!!!

I have been ******ing Seven for about a week trying to hook up with her when she was working, so I could finally see what Billy S and Lawyer 101 were talking so highly about. My schedule and hers just didn't click until finally this past Wednesday. And I'm so glad it did!!!
I got there about 4:00 and went to one of the peeps to check her out. She wasn't there so I asked the manager where 7 was and he said she was busy in Room 4 and would be free in about 20 minutes. I went outside walked around, and went back in.
I saw the little red light on in Room 4 so I knew she was still busy. I went back to the manager to see how much longer and he said she was with somebody else since I went outside. Was told she would be free in 20 minutes again. I sat there this time and waited and wondered "WOW, This girl is busy..She must be something else" And she was!!!!
Finally the lite went out and I ran to the booth to make sure I was next. He told me to go to Room 4 and she would be right there.
I sat there and in a minute she came in and we said hello to each other and she said it was so good to be able to put a face to a name.
That was when the "Out of Body Experience" began...
This lady has a technique that I have never experinced in over 20 years of playing around. She knows how to please and please she does!!!!!
She works her eyes, body, mouth, and you just want to explode!!! And explode I did!!!
You got to experience it to feel it and feel it I did!!!
Can't wait to hook up with her again next week!!!!

[lawyer101]

Cookyman,

If Seven is busy with a customer when you go up front to pay for a lapdance, you can still pay for the dance and wait for her. I don’t suggest leaving and then coming back because if someone else comes in and buys a dance, you will be pushed behind that person and you will still have to wait. This will make your experience at “the dish” frustrating at best. To avoid the frustration, just pay for the dance as soon as you go in, and wait for her…:)

I’ll give you a “little secret” about Seven. The more that you see her, the better the show gets. When she feels completely comfortable with you, this is when she will make your “head spin”...:)

[Sinful7]

I must say sorry, if you guys have to wait a minute for me;
my cliental and I has a special connection and sometimes
I tend indulge in the time because I want to feed your
Sexual Desire, and at the same time I want to feed your
Mind; I want you to know what your investing in. I want
you to know you can reach me many different ways and that
I respond in a timely fashion. Except on the telephone, I don't
like the airwaves I am also around people and I don't like
people that are not sexual adventures, to get in the loop.
My lifestyle isn't for everyone, and I know that! The why I
only seek those that are looking for more out of there sexual
experience.

I must say that my female cliental has pick up alot, I guess
I know what women like, since I am one. 70% of women
do have an orgasm during sex, I must included the ladies
because they are sexually deprevived; and they come to
me with questions, and I answer through demonstrations.
To all the LADIES, don't worry "7" is a study for the SEXES
male and female. This is to all the couples that come and see
me to boost their sexual performance......and you know
we always have fun. ENJOY!

[Cookyman]

Lawyer 101:

I didn't mind waiting at all. Iwas going to pay for the lapdance but just decided to wait it out. I was in no rush at all.
I was once told " all good things are worth waiting for" and it was!!!

[lawyer101]

Originally posted by Cookyman

I was once told " all good things are worth waiting for" and it was!!!

That is true...:)

[Magnifique]

Originally posted by Sinful7

I must say that my female cliental has pick up alot, I guess
I know what women like, since I am one. 70% of women
do have an orgasm during sex, I must included the ladies
because they are sexually deprevived; and they come to
me with questions, and I answer through demonstrations.
To all the LADIES, don't worry "7" is a study for the SEXES
male and female. This is to all the couples that come and see
me to boost their sexual performance......and you know
we always have fun. ENJOY!

If you can do for a woman what you do for a man, I'm in!
Seriously, I'm getting very curious...I'm gonna try to do a search for your schedule (it is on this board isn't it?)

[Sinful7]

You must remember that this is an Independent Study Research.
I am not an escort service. I am Sexual Scientist....and I am looking for participants to study part in the study in:
Sex as a Catalyst to an "Out of Body Experience"

Sex means male and female so of course my study doesn't
just focus on men. Women are a key, because of the body
ablity or have multiorgasm, like waves crushing on the
shore.

I WELCOME all males and females to ***** me through the
classified section, the willing to indulge in your Sexual Nature.

[bobo529]

Originally posted by lawyer101
Cookyman,


I’ll give you a “little secret” about Seven. The more that you see her, the better the show gets. When she feels completely comfortable with you, this is when she will make your “head spin”...:)

This is not a secret, it's the same thing in just about anything. If you were to visit a restaurant more & more & more, each time you usually get treated better. It gets better each time becuase you are spending more MONEY each time. The key word is MONEY.

So if anyone sees 7 on a consistent basis, they are speding more money on her which = better service, no matter what anyone says, it's the money.

And this whole "I'm doing an independent study research", come on us give us a break. I'm sure there are plenty of horny guys on here who will buy this crap, but I'm sure there are other on here who like me find this just your way of candy coating you being a prostitute.

Money exchanged for sexual act = prostitution

If it is research you should be paying the guys as the research subject, not vice-versa.

[Sinful7]

Originally posted by bobo529

Money exchanged for sexual act = prostitution

If it is research you should be paying the guys as the research subject, not vice-versa.

Well BoBo let me Welcome you into the world of SINful "7"
Masters.

First and for most we already reviewed the fact that Sex
Entertainment from Strippers to Escorts are forms of
prostitution; and that prositution is an unworthy act in
the hopes of profit and it not only done in my profession.
How many people out there sell themselves for unworthy
acts?

How many years does it take to get your Masters Degree?
.....and that how many years I been in this business, I spend
so much time in the club that I have come to understand the
social working of it and the effect of Desire has over a Man
and the stimuli that a women subjects to a man that causes
his nature to rise.

There is always a skeptic in the group and all I can say is that
my word is my bond and and people been talking about "7"
on this board for a while since the old Xtremes Girls thread,
and I was on the A-list from the very beginnning. Of course
you can't understand the intensity, if you been with dancers
that do their job collect there doe, and next. I pay attention
to every aspect of my job and I put time and thought into it.

As for paying for reasearch, they DON"T! They are venture
capitalist that contribute to the cost of emerging Reality with
Virtuality. I have people that his been with me for years and
talked this whole concept through. I have the best team
from Corp America, Computer Tech, to Princeton Alumni.
So if my reasearch isn't substantial, explain to me why
my following is so dedicated. You know why because they
watched this whole project be created right in front of them over
time. I am not lying to you like other sexual entertainers,
promising you the world and then leaving with the wind
blowing through your fingers. People like me because I am
real I will tell you I am SINFUL, and everything I say I do.

I'll give you a break! Go to my website and check out
"Breaking You Off" You can Enter as a Guest; go get
link through the UG Classifieds NY.

The truth is that plenty of people will buy sex, but WHY?
What drives your DESIRE to hunt for it, to the point that
your surfing the web looking for what is sexually entertaining,
and that is how you wandered into Utopiaguide and indulged
in the digital transcriptions of "SINful 7 Masters"

[Harmony Memories]

Originally posted by Magnifique
If you can do for a woman what you do for a man, I'm in!
Seriously, I'm getting very curious...I'm gonna try to do a search for your schedule (it is on this board isn't it?)

Hey Magnifique- Are you planning on "switching teams" (to use a Seinfeldian reference) ? Don't forget, men aren't completely USELESS .... LOL

(Well, some are, but that's a whole other issue !!)

[Sinful7]

Originally posted by Magnifique
If you can do for a woman what you do for a man, I'm in!
Seriously, I'm getting very curious...I'm gonna try to do a search for your schedule (it is on this board isn't it?)

Go to the classifieds and click on my link to my website and
my schedule posted in the Calendar section.

Welcome! To a Self Indulged Nature where I feed off
your Desire. It the spring the fruits are ripe off the tree.

[Sinful7]

Originally posted by jjhunsecker
Hey Magnifique- Are you planning on "switching teams" (to use a Seinfeldian reference) ? Don't forget, men aren't completely USELESS .... LOL

(Well, some are, but that's a whole other issue !!)

**Sex is a state of mind take people way from there daily
thoughts and get them into their dirty thoughts, male or
female and thoughts brings Desire, Desire fires the intensity.

[Sinful7]

Originally posted by Cookyman
Lawyer 101:

I didn't mind waiting at all. Iwas going to pay for the lapdance but just decided to wait it out. I was in no rush at all.
I was once told " all good things are worth waiting for" and it was!!!

You have to bring me some cookies for your next visit to the garden, I'll give so some fresh fruit to go home with (LOL)

[Cookyman]

I will have to see you some time this week

[billyS]

Originally posted by Sinful7
You have to bring me some cookies for your next visit to the garden, Just don't eat them and get them all over your lips while driving in the rain and Camcording yourself, especially if motherfuckers be cutting you off in the rain on the Belt Parkway and shit. Just a little safety tip I picked up on one of my favorite websites.

[zenlover]

Seven, you are an amazing woman. I've not met you, but just reading your posts tells me a lot. Guys, we need to recognize how fortunate we are to have a woman doing this level of work...it raises the standard for all providers. Wouldn't it be great if we saw a dynamic where things moved from sleazy, secretive. and illegal, to the high art of the practice of eroticgoddess as a respected profession...Wouldn't it be great if women like Seven were respected and listened to by women who have chosen a different, equally valid path. But who got their sexual training from a specialized initiator/teacher/master like Seven is developing herself to be. You go Girl!

[Sinful7]

First let "7" welcome you to Utopia Guide, I hope this forum
leads you to some form of exploring your sexuality.

I would really like expressing myself to people that think
out side the box. If funny that Zen is in your Screen name;
I see why you understand my ideas.

Zen: Enlightenment can be attained through meditation, self-contemplation, and intuition rather than through faith and devotion and that is practiced

I gues this sum up the thought behind my name:
Sinful "7" Masters

A Master is one that has control over another or others.
"7" Masters is having control of the 7 deadly Sins when
you walk into the lion's den, where negativity will grow
and and encompass you like weeds in garden.

SIN is what has branded sex like a sacrlet letter, because
it is a Self Indulged Nature of Lust ( unrestrained sexual craving) where as a Self Indulged Nature of Desire (To express a wish for; request).

When you lust for something it is unrestrained that means
that you have no control over it. But when you desire something
it is something you want and to can maintain indulging in
it because you have self control and when you have Self
Control over your self, your the Master of your own Mental
Universe. A common mistake people make in Mastering
they develop the power in the Self Confidence in oneself that
is recognized by other people, and people use that to
control other people

***Just a note trying to control someone mental is like
trying to control the weather.

I like the way you put an "choosen a different path, equally
valid path."

I put as much time into my study like any other Scientist, except
mine is about SEX! ....and I just yearned for an understanding
as to why people desired it. After years in the club you start
creating your own work schedule and your not on the
9 to 5 clock, so I guess I got lost in time and when I snapped
back into reality the viel was removed and I started seeing
in a different Light. I use to see in Black and White, now I
see in color ( the 7 colors of the rainbow)

People ask me all the time how did I come up with an "Out
of Experience" and I tell the that when you Seek you Find.
I was Traveling the Veil of Illusion, and you learn that all you thought you knew about life; it's a drop in a rain shower, and you begin to find out the TRUTH .... An illusion is when you have an erroneous perception of reality or concept or belief. Lucky
we live in time where information is at our finger tips.

Sex is natural to nature as trees in the forest, every animal
reproduce for perservation thier species, but humans as
we are cognitive. This is what seperates of from other animals,
(and the thumb (LOL)); because of this each one of us comtemplate the thought of intercouse, it is perceived the way it has presented itself to each individual.

[lawyer101]

Seven,
Are you familiar with the book "The Scarlet Letter" by Nathanial Hawthorne? This book gives a whole new meaning to the scarlet letter.

The scarlet letter is meant to be a symbol of shame, but instead it becomes a powerful symbol of identity to Hester. The letter's meaning shifts as time passes. Originally intended to mark Hester as an adulterer, the "A" eventually comes to stand for "Able." Finally, it becomes indeterminate that the Native Americans who come to watch the Election Day pageant think it marks her as a person of importance and status. Like Pearl, the letter functions as a physical reminder of Hester's affair with Dimmesdale. But, compared with a human child, the letter seems insignificant, and thus helps to point out the ultimate meaninglessness of the community's system of judgment and punishment. The child has been sent from God, or at least from nature, but the letter is merely a human contrivance. Additionally, the instability of the letter's apparent meaning calls into question society's ability to use symbols for ideological reinforcement. More often than not, a symbol becomes a focal point for critical analysis and debate.

[Sinful7]

Of course I am a seeker of Knowledge,

I say the attitude about sex has been brand in the same manner
it like a love hate type of thing. Women feel shameful about
being in the Sexual Entertainment business and about sex
too sometime, but you learn to live with it and you out
grow it; remember at the end after all those years Hester
proved herself; and I can relate to that book, because I am considered an Adulterer, in certain way but I have overcome that and now I help the village just like Hester.

[billyS]

Continuing the many looks of Seven, Today I snuck out of work for a quick 10 minute dance. I've been doing 20 minutes for the last four times and the 10 just went by way to quick. I also got there pretty close to 10 since I wanted to make sure I didn't have to wait. When Seven poked her head in she looked like she had just gotten up. But her performance was top-notch. As she drizzled lotion on my cock she cooed 'How do you like the fruits in the Garden of S.I.N. ? I 'm thinking 'Damm, I'd like to pitch a tent here'
What I liked about her outfit, a two piece white short skirt and top, was it made her look athletic, and with the ponytail and white sneakers it was complete. When she mounted me I ran my hands up those slim dark thighs, my forearms lifting the skirt as I got closer to the hips and thats when I saw she had no thong on. 'mmmmmmmm,pussy'. I went for those soft rounf tits under her top as she finished me quick today. I just noticed she is on with Missy on Monday. I wish you could schedule an appointment. This is a double. And Shy is there too !!! Anyone brave enough to take on all three?

[Sinful7]

Well Billy, after you confirmed you liked my outfit I decided
to keep it on. All day was really playful, I didn't know Cream
was going to be there, we had so much fun. Christina was
there we did a double together for the first time, I think she was
a little shy in front of me, I had to staighten that out stripped
those lil' bit of clothes off her and put them in the zone.
After playing in the Garden of Sin we all left feeling fullfilled.

[lawyer101]

Nice Review Billy!
Seven,
You need to work more nights. Us "night time" guys also need our
out of body expierences...:)

[Sinful7]

I haven't even noticed until you said something I have been
working alot of days my next night isn't until Saturday.
I'll talk to Mike about it.

[Sinful7]

Okay night time guys I have good news I have an extra
day a week so you can find me 3 days a week at Xdreams
so I hope I can catch up with everyone

[lawyer101]

Seven,
what night are you working this week? I didnt see you on the
schedule for any evening shifts.

[Sinful7]

I am working Saturday night this week

[Sinful7]

Yo! Life is Crazy, especially when you live Virtual-Reality,
I was looking at another thread and posted about some
crazy shit going on in my life, and the only away through
that is Knowledge, Wisdom, and Undersatanding. I really
live how what I write. I had Knowledge of a situation where
this guy wanted to sue this girl to get his money back and put
out a restraining order on her (completely pissed). I used Wisdom
in how I approached reach person, (the guy and the 2 girls).
Then used and Understanding of the situation ( to see the
whole picture) I gave to each person my best advice for
the situation. As of now all is Well....

(Knowledge,Wisdom,Understanding) use them in unisom and
it will revel things to you. It what you choose to do with it.

[Sinful7]

The time has come to hit the streets with "7" on Wheels
and I am very delighted in it progression from mental
desire to a physical sexual experience.

[Sinful7]

I love this time of year. I am in Long Island and this is the
time of year that the whole island comes alive. Well, to fill
you guys in Sinful "7" is going on tour. I am going to travel
the east coast playing the clubs on the weekend with the
camara crew to post it up for everyone on the website.
I think this is going to be really cool. You have Real TV, and
now your going to have the Real Sinful "7" live and uncut.
I think it will be fun. Imagine all the people I will meet, this
will really help with my research. This weekend I am going
to Connecticut to Beamers. I heard about it chatting online.
I will fill you in on the details. I don't know if CT is ready
for my sexual imagination, but we will soon find out.

[ARMAGEDDON]

Shit when are you at beamers! That's right in my back yard!

[Sinful7]

I have to call the manger back to confirm for next weekend

[lawyer101]

Seven,
Where has your "dumbass" been?
We have some catching up to do...:)

[danger-us]

I never grow tired of these threads.

[lawyer101]

Originally posted by danger-us
I never grow tired of these threads.

what does that mean?

[Casper]

Originally posted by danger-us
I never grow tired of these threads.

DITTO .. (whatever you meant) :D

[Dondee]

Armstrong tires Grrrrrrrrrriiiiiiippp the road! :D

[lawyer101]

Originally posted by Casper
DITTO .. (whatever you meant) :D

At least I wasn't the only one who had no idea what he
was talking about.

[Sinful7]

I been playing things behind the scenes for a moment. I have
to organize things to put people into my website this month.
Also I have been on the road. Who ever said life is what you
make it wasn't lying at all. Every since Xdreams closed I haven't
had so much fun making money, and I just plan it at my will, I
try to keep up with everyone but I need help, like a secretary
or something. I am really looking for help because I am falling
behind....and my friends try to help but we just end up
bullshiting. Anyone needs a part time job...Holla at your Girl!

[the chief]

Originally posted by Sinful7
Sex is a physical activity you are working every muscle in
the body contouring it into postions. The heart must
be condition to handle the long haul, and your muscle must
be as well. Once you take the time to condtion the body
to work in conjunction with the mind, let that door to
your sexual creativity set in, possibilites infinte. Like
numbers. "7"



7,

how true this is. as much as sex is a physical activity, people should take it seriously when performing it. it should never be about just getting off. it should be sensual as well so that experience should last a very long time.

[WILDONE]

Hey Seven, whats the best way to get in touch with you. I'd love to hook up, you may not remember me, but we had a few good times at xdreams. What has Cassandra been doing since they closed have you talked to her?

[Sinful7]

Originally posted by WILDONE
Hey Seven, whats the best way to get in touch with you. I'd love to hook up, you may not remember me, but we had a few good times at xdreams. What has Cassandra been doing since they closed have you talked to her?

I am hear you should ***** behind the scenes. I have alot of
submissions to return I just edited the video to go out so
by Monday most people should have there own personal
video from "7". As for Cassandra she is chilling trying to
make some money in the summer heat. She called me this
week, I have been trying to get in contact with her but
now we are back to playing phone tag.

I wanted to go to the Sex Museum in the City. I heard it is
really hot. I want to go and bring the camcorder and get some
good footage. Has anyone been yet?

[gpiper]

Wild One:
You need to get in line behind me,
cause if you don't I may send you up a tree.
For I've been waiting for Sinful 7 to free up her time,
so her beautiful body and soul can finally meld with mine.

[danger-us]

7,

After the Sex Museum, do you wanna head over to Apex Tech?
We could take a class together.

Then your beautiful body and soul can finally weld with me.

[Gooey2k]

When do the wrestling matches start. Guys are going to be duking it out for the front of the line.

[gpiper]

Not So Dangerous:
Poking fun at the Piper will get you nowhere...
Sin could cancel your date, giving you more sexual despair!

[lawyer101]

Originally posted by Gooey2k
When do the wrestling matches start. Guys are going to be duking it out for the front of the line.

I don't know if that is needed. Seven will find time to make room for everyone...:)

[Sinful7]

I woke up this morning and decided to go to 7-11 to get some
coffee. I jumped in the 7 mobile and drove down the street.
Now, I've been going to this 7-11 everyday at least 3 times a
day for the last 8 months. I know all the people that work
there and we are always laughing and talking. All the people
that work there look like they are from the Middle East, and this
one particular guy comes over to me at the coffee station.
He says, What do you think?
Let me fill you in like a week or two ago he ask me to marry
him to get into the country and he would pay me 8 thousand
dollars to do this. I thought it was a joke and started laughing
and then I realize he wasn't. He pulls me into the back room and
explained that he couldn't wait to go through the immigration,
and that he needed me to marry him. I told him I will think
about it.
Well, today when he ask me I was saved by the bell, my phone
rang. I've talked about it behind the scenes. I mean what if I marry this guy and he like some suicide bomber or something.
I'm not going to marry him but it did start me to thinking, there
is a 7-11 on every block in Long Island, the majority of poeple
that work there look like they are from the Middle East.
There is like 8 people working per store. That a great place to
meet people, they are probably working 60 hours a week
find you a bride and than infilitrate the country and set up
cells and wait for the ***** to take something out. Okay this
my be an exaggeration, but it is possible.

[Casper]

Maybe he thought you were 1 of the 72 virgins he's been promised, just trying to get his share early.

Prior to 9-11-01:
I had a good friend who lived in Japan for a yr or so and wound up meeting his future wife there, a Japanese woman (goes without saying). He moved back to the States with her shortly after they engaged. I recall him later telling me the stories of how hard and complicated it was in getting her a green card or whatever he had to get her in order that she can remain here. They had to go to various interviews to prove they really had known each other for a few years as they claimed, etc. I believe this all took almost a year. And this is all prior to 9-11-01. I can't imagine how much harder it might be now especially if it's a sham marriage and have no personal knowledge of this person or have pics of you with him together vacationing, etc. Shit like that.
I'm sure if my friend wasn't busting multiple nuts with her on a daily basis (before and after marriage) he would not thought the process was worth it.

Another story:
Almost 5 years ago another good friend of mine whom I've known since 7th grade ran an idea by me. He had a female cousin (goes without saying) back in the Phillipines that wanted desperately to come the U.S. The plan was that I would be paid 5K or 10K I really forget and we would wed. I told him I wasn't keen on that idea but thanks for thinking of me. He somewhat persisted and then showed me her picture. Well if she wasn't my type anyway and if I won't marry for love, I'll definitely not marry for cash.
But think of how many additional sessions I could have had..... ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Cookyman]

Hey 7,
Marry me instead!!!!
At least you know me.

[Sinful7]

Cooky I can't marry you because I would become fat from
nippling on your cookies.

I knew someone that married someone to get in the country back
in the Jolt days in Huntington, I guess that was like 96/97.
Anyway she had just a baby and started dancing, to make a
long story short she married someone and got the money and
than she went to get her breast done and is still dancing on
LI. That wouldn't be my luck. I would end up on the frontpage
of Newsday: Long Island Stripper married The Sunrise Hwy
Terrorist Bomber. I don't think that will be good for business.
I think that the 9-11 whole situation really touched people,
as a native New Yorker I could go against the grain like that.

[Cookyman]

Only if you eat the ones with the cream in them.
It's only 1 calorie you know!!!!!!

[Sinful7]

I have to change my hair the fire red attracts too much
attention and that makes it hard to move through the world.
This morning I went to get my morning coffee and this black
guy approached me. You can tell he thought he was the shit.
His chain was so big and long, I was thinking how in the hell
could you think that tacky shit it hot. It liked like a 10K Jamica
Ave special. So his music was bumping rims shining. I thought
to myself if this guy holla at me I have a line for his ass, but I
was wrong he had the ill ass line for me. I must say for the
thug look he carried he was a gentlemen in a ghetto way.
He was like can I talk to you for a second, I was like I have
money to make and it not in the stars for us today. He
turns around and looks at me and smile and damn near
blinded me I think all of his teeth was gold. Remember it
is like 12pm the sun high so they was shining. I wonder if you
have gold teeth do you brush them or polish them. But, wait
he says to me "What you think I can't afford you and pointed to
his teeth and was like 250 and 250 pointing to each tooth
like these are real there not fronts Ma", all I could do is laugh.
For the humor I gave him a business card, and kept it moving.
My life is so off the hook I can't believe the shit that happens to
me.

[TC123]

Originally posted by Sinful7
His chain was so big and long,

Exactly how close a look did you get?

[Sinful7]

He was talking to me so close range, I mean this is NY. I have
seen alot of stuff, so it take alot for me to take notice to
something to pass judgement on it, most of the time you
look but don't pay attention. This guy look like he was in a
rapper or something like that. Lets put it like this he had a
Urban look, with all the material things to give an physical
impression that he doing something to make money. It just
threw me off because I am way out on the island and that not
something you see everyday. I guess if I was in the city it
wouldn't matter because you see you many things in a day.

[lawyer101]

Seven,
I enjoy reading all your stories...:)
I think you need to share with everyone the story
about the Jamiacan dude with the dreads at Teasers that you were giving the peep show for. That story "freaked the shit out of me." Although you will not be able to jump like you did for me when you told me the story in person, I think everyone will get the idea...:)

[Sinful7]

Oh! Yea. I forgot about that, it was really freaky.

Let me think!

I had just started working at Teasers and I guess you can say
I as a novice to the H/R senario. I was working as a Stripper
for so long, that this was something new, and I had to learn
the ropes. Nobody was using condoms during handjobs at this
time at Xdreams or Teasers because I was working in both places.
Anyways, I was at the peep show booth part where there is a
glass between you and the customer. It was the one where you
can see the whole body not that little ones. Well I was doing the
damn thing behind the glass and he was jerking off and he was
getting into and it was time for him to bust, it squirted out and
shot straight to the glass. When it hit the glass it was blood
dripping down like the "Redrum" writing on the mirror in the
Shinning and it had like white think clumps in it. I started
fucking screaming for help, and I keep asking him if he was
alright. He keep telling me to be quite, that something was wrong
with him. You would have never known anything was wrong
with this guy, he was like middle aged and looked like a
healthy Jamican. I use couldn't shake the site out of my head.
All I could think about what if I was given him H/R and he did
that all over my hand, the way that shit shot out it could of
gotten all over me. So, it was at that moment that I decided
that everyone gets covered for H/R. It still grosses me out
right now. The next week was Amber birthday party and we
was chilling in the Expedition Limo Truck, and it was in that
limo that we came to agreement after hearing my story to all
use condoms so if some doesn't like it too bad all the A-list
girls top priority at that point was the sexual safety. I changed
alot of shit in the game, everywhere I go I leave my own little
dent on the situation.

[lawyer101]

Seven,
That story is "fucked up". As you said, it was a good thing that a window was separating you from this dude. I'm glad that you made a positive out of this. By using condoms when you offer handjobs, it makes it much safer in case a situation like that arises again. I have been reading on this board all about uncovered blowjobs. What if a provider was giving this guy "head" and he busted a nut as well as his blood in her mouth. Thats a scary thought. I guess the provider would be praying that he didnt have any diseases, but if he did, most likely it would be to late to avoid a transmission of an STD. This is why I think providers put themselves at great risk when ever they offer uncovered blow jobs.

[justlooking]

Originally posted by gpiper
Not So Dangerous:
Poking fun at the Piper will get you nowhere...
Sin could cancel your date, giving you more sexual despair!

WHY MIXED WHOREBOARDS CAN'T WORK.

[Sinful7]

I understand that the pleasure raw is much better for the guys,
but please guys listen to my experience for your own good,
don't be fooled by a pretty face. As from a girl point of view as
a women I don't like to be cummed in, it changes you ph level
and can give your pussy a different smell or if you have too
much cum in you, you get bacterial infections. My job requirments
is to end up totally naked, and you become obessed with that.
I would say this is definitly a high maintence job. The average
career of a sexual entertainer is 10 years, and I already put in
8, I am coming to the cross roads. I am going to have to evolve
in the game or get pushed out into the 9 to 5 world. I see this
ahead of time that is why I decided to venture into the digital
side. The thing that keeps me into the game is the pleasure
aspect I LOVE when people leave me smiling like I brought joy
into there life for a brief moment in time. I have all types of
customers from young guys that I guess you can say I coach
sexual to old men that haven't been able to enjoy there sexuality
because the desire is gone and they can't rise to the occasion,
and my most recent accomplishment was this guy that was 28
and really shy, he never had a girlfriend and is still a virgin, I think
he is a little slow, but anyways I have been building up his self
esteem and he *****ed me that he is going out on a date
with a girl in his Fireman class. Sometime it shows up in the
weirdest ways about 6 months ago a lady called me and said
that she found my number in her husbans pants pocket and wanted to meet me to talk about it. I was a little shocked, but
I was like I guess I have to account for my actions and agreed
to meet her a Walt Whitman Mall for lunch. To my suprise it was older lady in here late 50's, she looked like leave it to Beavers
mom. So we got a bottle of red wine and started to talk. To
keep it real I didn't even remember her husband so I had to
wing it. She starts to tell me how for years her husban has been
seeing women on the side and it understood, but there was
cetain aspects that she didn't understand. She said he would
take a shower and put his back washer handle up his ass and
other anal things. I ask her how she felt about it and she
got quite, so than I ask her if she had an enjoyable sex life and
she said not in years. So I told her lets focus on her we made
an appointment to hook up and explore her sexuality. After
lunch I told her the consultation fee was 70 dollars she gave me
a 100 and we hooked up the following week and I had to open
the doors to her desire and lets her experience being pleaured.
She loved it so much she referred her friend to me. After about
a month in a half exploring both of them on an individual level
I suggested that the three of us do group therapy, I have to
say these two old rich ladies was so fucking backed up that
the whole experiences was plunging head first into a body of
water. Nothing against the guys but women pay you VERY well
for your services. I love going to see them now and there whole
being has changed, they don't look like grandmothers anymore.
We go shopping together and get our nails done and than go
and play. I feel good about myself when I am done. It's like
for all the wrong I have done I make it up now for sharing pleasure in peoples life.....and the funny thing is that when you
make people feel good about themselves you don't have to
hustle them they just give to you. I guess now a good time
to say Thank You to Mrs. Beaver for opening up another side
to sexual entertainment and a big THANK YOU for the Visual
Communication software, it going to take my website to the
next level. I know you check the site Luv' Ya!

[Confused]

Originally posted by Sinful 7:

"Sometime it shows up in the weirdest ways about 6 months ago a lady called me and said that she found my number in her husbans pants pocket and wanted to meet me to talk about it. I was a little shocked, but I was like I guess I have to account for my actions and agreed to meet her a Walt Whitman Mall for lunch."

Pretty girl.
Smart.
Great marketing.
Great reviews.

Anybody else that would decide not to see her based on this post alone?

[hot4chicks]

Another way she could make money is to meet wives and then get a commission from the divorce lawyer.

That would probably speed up her personal wealth creation plans.

[Sinful7]

Originally posted by Confused
Originally posted by Sinful 7:

"Sometime it shows up in the weirdest ways about 6 months ago a lady called me and said that she found my number in her husbans pants pocket and wanted to meet me to talk about it. I was a little shocked, but I was like I guess I have to account for my actions and agreed to meet her a Walt Whitman Mall for lunch."

Pretty girl.
Smart.
Great marketing.
Great reviews.

Anybody else that would decide not to see her based on this post alone?

Some people learn how to pass the blame, but I am the only
child if something broke or missing who eles could it be. I
learned early how to admit to doing something wrong,
because if I admitted to it the punishment was less, and if
I told before they found out it more than likely taken as a
mistake. So when this lady called me, something in side of
me made me be accountable for my actions. I knew the day
was going to come one way or the other, but I am really happy
that the situation worked out the way it did.

[justlooking]

You should do what you can live with. But you should know, from the customers' side, that what most of us would prefer you to do in a situation like that is to deny you'd ever heard of us. Coming clean to our SOs is like the LAST thing we'd want you to do. After all, it's OUR lives you'd be ruining by doing what you did, not yours.

[Sinful7]

Originally posted by hot4chicks
Another way she could make money is to meet wives and then get a commission from the divorce lawyer.

That would probably speed up her personal wealth creation plans.

To be absolutely real with you the whole experience has made
me think about adding women into the sexual research. There
are alot of women that are unhappy sexually and there husbands
gets there kicks and they go shopping.Women hold discretionary
funds too, why not let them tap into the sexuality with it.

"Personal Wealth Creation Plans" I like that because it sounds
like something I would say, because it is me, and I am just
trying to be the best that I can be. Thanks that what I am
going to name my business plan I have to send to someone.

[Confused]

JL,

DITTO!

[justlooking]

7, I say this with all respect and affection:

You are so fixated on money that it scares me. For you and for your customers and co-workers. But mainly for you.

I mean this in the friendliest way possible.

[Sinful7]

Originally posted by justlooking
You should do what you can live with. But you should know, from the customers' side, that what most of us would prefer you to do in a situation like that is to deny you'd ever heard of us. Coming clean to our SOs is like the LAST thing we'd want you to do. After all, it's OUR lives you'd be ruining by doing what you did, not yours.

Different things happen in life for different reasons. Sometimes
people are put into your life, from the phone conversation we
just had a connection, and now she is a great friend. I am
just good with confrontation, I guess being raised by your
grandparents you listen before you speak and that what I
did I gained control of the conversation and allowed her an
open forum to talk comfortable until she wanted to meet me.
One thing you learn as a stripper is that most of the time people
just want someone to listen to them and comfort them, and
one thing I learned in the streets is never tell what you know.
It might be your last tale.

[justlooking]

You ever talk to my wife about sexual activities you've done with me* and it's the last conversation you'll ever have with anybody.
__________________________________________
* No, you haven't: I'm speaking hypothetically here.

[Sinful7]

Originally posted by justlooking
7, I say this with all respect and affection:

You are so fixated on money that it scares me. For you and for your customers and co-workers. But mainly for you.

I mean this in the friendliest way possible.

It not the money, it's the Creation of Thought. I get a great sense
of accomplishment out of making something out of nothing.
Alot of people have great ideas and just can't put it together,
I can. If I lost everything I had today I would see you back
bigger and better in 2 years. Some people have a drive for
life that stronger than others. Please don't mistake monetary
gain for my drive to create something that will out live me, I am a ball of energy and I can't stay still, so instead of doing negative
things I do positive things and the reward for my effort is
monetary.

[justlooking]

OK, then let me put it this way, again in the friendliest way possible:

Your drive to create something out of nothing scares me. I hope you eventually find some peace.

(I know I have no right to say this, but I'm saying it anyway.)

[jasonbuju]

Originally posted by Sinful 7:

"Sometime it shows up in the weirdest ways about 6 months ago a lady called me and said that she found my number in her husbans pants pocket and wanted to meet me to talk about it. I was a little shocked, but I was like I guess I have to account for my actions and agreed to meet her a Walt Whitman Mall for lunch."

[/QUOTE]

This is worse than reading a BL post because its probably true.

I am in "shock and awe"

[lawyer101]

Originally posted by justlooking
7, I say this with all respect and affection:

You are so fixated on money that it scares me. For you and for your customers and co-workers. But mainly for you.

I mean this in the friendliest way possible.

JL,
Aren't we all fixated on money? Don't we all want the finer things in life? Don't we all have champagne taste, but want the champagne pockets to fill our needs?

[lawyer101]

Originally posted by justlooking
OK, then let me put it this way, again in the friendliest way possible:

Your drive to create something out of nothing scares me. I hope you eventually find some peace.

(I know I have no right to say this, but I'm saying it anyway.)

JL,
What do you mean that she is trying to create something out of nothing? I may have missed something in a prior post, so this is why I am asking.

PS - Please don't take this post or my last post in a negative way. That was not the intention of the post.

PSS - Im pulling for you to get 10,000 posts...:)

[pswope]

Originally posted by justlooking
You should do what you can live with. But you should know, from the customers' side, that what most of us would prefer you to do in a situation like that is to deny you'd ever heard of us. Coming clean to our SOs is like the LAST thing we'd want you to do. After all, it's OUR lives you'd be ruining by doing what you did, not yours.

The most obvious DITTO in a long time.

[pswope]

Originally posted by Sinful7
Different things happen in life for different reasons. Sometimes
people are put into your life, from the phone conversation we
just had a connection, and now she is a great friend. I am
just good with confrontation, I guess being raised by your
grandparents you listen before you speak and that what I
did I gained control of the conversation and allowed her an
open forum to talk comfortable until she wanted to meet me.
One thing you learn as a stripper is that most of the time people
just want someone to listen to them and comfort them, and
one thing I learned in the streets is never tell what you know.
It might be your last tale.

7

The problem with this is that it totally ignores the potential devastating consequences to a person,whom you had a responsibility to protect from those consequences. When a sex provider (stripper/working girl/ massage lady) sees a client, it is absolutely part of th arrangement,whether stated or not,that you totally respect his privacy. In fact this is a two way agreement for the client should never reveal the event that took place between the sex provider & client should the client encounter the provider's SO(something that has happened many times).

I think I know you enuf to say that you would never knowingly try to hurt someone except n self defense. But,the lesson here is if you're going to be in this business, you've got to subordinate your curiousity and instincts to help and explore with others(like the scorned wife) to the damage you can do to your clients.

Please don't view this as jumping on the pile, but in the spirit of learning.

[pswope]

Originally posted by justlooking
7, I say this with all respect and affection:

You are so fixated on money that it scares me. For you and for your customers and co-workers. But mainly for you.

I mean this in the friendliest way possible.

The problem I have with this is it comes off way too judgemental,nothwithstanding the mitigation on your intentions. When we don't know the experiences a person has had regarding financial security,no matter what our backgrounds may be on same issue, it seems wrong to make this value judgement.

It's in a similiar vein to when johns criticize working girls for not taking lesser paying jobs than commercial sex.

And I understand where you are coming from and perhaps it's more a matter of how you presented it. Certainly one could reasonbly infer that 7's 'tude as expressed here would raise concerns from potential clients,but knowing the lady a bit, I think it might be as much a matter of what she's shared and making certain inferences that might not be valid.

[clubber]

Originally posted by Confused
Originally posted by Sinful 7:

"Sometime it shows up in the weirdest ways about 6 months ago a lady called me and said that she found my number in her husbans pants pocket and wanted to meet me to talk about it. I was a little shocked, but I was like I guess I have to account for my actions and agreed to meet her a Walt Whitman Mall for lunch."

Pretty girl.
Smart.
Great marketing.
Great reviews.

Anybody else that would decide not to see her based on this post alone?

Who could resist a provider that gives covered HJs and would tell anyone about their meetings if asked?

[Sinful7]

Sinful “7” Masters been holding down Strong Island for 8 years and I NEVER been known for doing bad business. My objective when I first came to my website wasn’t
to talk about myself but to promote my project. When I started doing that you
guys had a problem with that, and granted everything I talk about I do and I do it
WELL! Walking in 6 inch heels all these years has made my back bone strong that
why when shit hit the fan I was the last one standing. You can take my motivation
toward life anyway you want, but I tell you this I am not living off of anyone. At
the end of the day I lay by myself. I don’t have a sugardaddy and I don’t hit my
Customers up with sob stories to get my bills paid. I stand on my own two feet,
and the only thing I am going to bend to is the wind, like the mighty oak tree.
I guess you’d like it better if I was some bum bitch getting hand outs from a pimp,
sitting in a hotel all day turning one trick after another. If I was in Corporate America
and had the same drive I had to get that big corner office with the view, there wouldn’t
be no problem, but because I am in the Sexual Entertainment Industry and I can think
outside of the box and put things together to get things that I want, it is a problem.
It is a new day and I am not going to sit in the stripclub all day waiting for people
to come in, racing to be the first person to grab a buck. I have been doing this a
long time and I am financially secure, my self preservation is provided for me from
off the interested of hard work. I was given an opportunity to make cash money
everyday and I took it and instead of spending it on drugs or material items I
invested it in myself. If that makes my greedy than you know why they call me
SINFUL!

As for the other situation about Mrs. Beaver, she is one of my closest friend and her
wisdom for seeing the sun long before me has helped me in many different ways.
We talked about this last night on the phone and she told me not to worry about
people and what they have to say because I am special and everyone not going
to understand. She thinks I spend too much time on the board and should focus
on just dealing with what I have. She has a point. I didn’t bring the situation on, it
presented itself to me, I was put on the spot. So anyone that see a provider clean up
after yourself and situations like that would not happen. Make sure you don’t leave
number in your pocket if your wife does your laundry. This guy left a paper trail,
lucky I am quick thinking on my feet and told her that I was a Sexual Therapist.
Now ANYONE that knows me from Xdreams know that I called myself the Sex
Therapist the whole time I was there, so when this lady came to talk to me she
believed her husband was seeing me about his anal fixation. So to anyone that
thinks I ruin lifes think again, I re-sparked a aging couples sex life and at 50
something years old she taking it in the ass for her husband and there relationship
is better than ever.

[Sinful7]

Who could resist a provider that gives covered HJs and would tell anyone about their meetings if asked?

You can say what you want about using condoms, but they
are there for our sexual safety. If someone shot blood out
at you, would you turn the other cheek and act like it didn't
happen, or would you take it as a warning sign. I can't
look at you and tell what you have. The doctor that was
answering questions on the General Board gave hand jobs
a safety rating of 2 ( In a 1-10 range). Now when the girls
go and get there nails done and and they are filing away, you
don't think our cuticles get cut up sometimes, that is an open
wound and I am going to let 20 people cum on that 3 times
a week and not worry at all about my safety, or the safety
of my friends. So I should of been like fuck everyone eles if
they want to get AIDS and die because they don't want to
protect themselves so be it.

[pswope]

Originally posted by Sinful7
Sinful “7” Masters been holding down Strong Island for 8 years and I NEVER been known for doing bad business. My objective when I first came to my website wasn’t
to talk about myself but to promote my project. When I started doing that you
guys had a problem with that, and granted everything I talk about I do and I do it
WELL! Walking in 6 inch heels all these years has made my back bone strong that
why when shit hit the fan I was the last one standing. You can take my motivation
toward life anyway you want, but I tell you this I am not living off of anyone. At
the end of the day I lay by myself. I don’t have a sugardaddy and I don’t hit my
Customers up with sob stories to get my bills paid. I stand on my own two feet,
and the only thing I am going to bend to is the wind, like the mighty oak tree.
I guess you’d like it better if I was some bum bitch getting hand outs from a pimp,
sitting in a hotel all day turning one trick after another. If I was in Corporate America
and had the same drive I had to get that big corner office with the view, there wouldn’t
be no problem, but because I am in the Sexual Entertainment Industry and I can think
outside of the box and put things together to get things that I want, it is a problem.
It is a new day and I am not going to sit in the stripclub all day waiting for people
to come in, racing to be the first person to grab a buck. I have been doing this a
long time and I am financially secure, my self preservation is provided for me from
off the interested of hard work. I was given an opportunity to make cash money
everyday and I took it and instead of spending it on drugs or material items I
invested it in myself. If that makes my greedy than you know why they call me
SINFUL!

As for the other situation about Mrs. Beaver, she is one of my closest friend and her
wisdom for seeing the sun long before me has helped me in many different ways.
We talked about this last night on the phone and she told me not to worry about
people and what they have to say because I am special and everyone not going
to understand. She thinks I spend too much time on the board and should focus
on just dealing with what I have. She has a point. I didn’t bring the situation on, it
presented itself to me, I was put on the spot. So anyone that see a provider clean up
after yourself and situations like that would not happen. Make sure you don’t leave
number in your pocket if your wife does your laundry. This guy left a paper trail,
lucky I am quick thinking on my feet and told her that I was a Sexual Therapist.
Now ANYONE that knows me from Xdreams know that I called myself the Sex
Therapist the whole time I was there, so when this lady came to talk to me she
believed her husband was seeing me about his anal fixation. So to anyone that
thinks I ruin lifes think again, I re-sparked a aging couples sex life and at 50
something years old she taking it in the ass for her husband and there relationship
is better than ever.


....Hate the game, not the player.

(ps the 1st part of the post stated the point I was trying to make much more eloquently. though I still disagree with 7's position on Mrs Beaver)

[WILDONE]

Hey Seven, any word on xdreams, are they going to open ahead of schedule?

[Sinful7]

Originally posted by justlooking
You should do what you can live with. But you should know, from the customers' side, that what most of us would prefer you to do in a situation like that is to deny you'd ever heard of us. Coming clean to our SOs is like the LAST thing we'd want you to do. After all, it's OUR lives you'd be ruining by doing what you did, not yours.

If your so worried about your life being ruined and you love your
wife so much than answer this question for me that I don't
understand. If you took vowels for better or worst til death do
you part and this is the person you choose to spend your
life with, than why are you seeing prostitutes? If your sex life
in your married relationship, leads to wander and try out other
women, do you really think your wife is happy? This is the
reason why I am not in a committed relationship because I don't
understand, if you love someone what makes you be with other
people. Everyone says I spend alot of time myself but it because
of my lifestyle and I won't subject someone that I say I love to
that, and you do it indirectly. Than you come here and jump on
me because someone slip in there game, and because it touched
so close to home, because that could happen to you with
anybody. So who to blame me or you? .......and as for privacy
I have lost jobs over protecting my customers privacy, I have
brought light to establishments about that and made them
change there set-up. People really shouldn't throw stones when
they live in glass houses.

[Sinful7]

....Hate the game, not the player.

(ps the 1st part of the post stated the point I was trying to make much more eloquently. though I still disagree with 7's position on Mrs Beaver)

I tell you this in Society there alot of people that don't agree
with be a Sexual Entertainter, but I take it, and I use it as
fuel to keep my fire burning. If you keep your game tight
there wouldn't me no Mrs. Beaver. This should be a lesson
to all you FAMILY MEN, home comes first, and if your having
too much fun in the streets, something lacking at home, and
what done in the dark will come to the light one way or another
and it been happening way before Sinful "7" and after.
I am just the messenger.

[Sinful7]

Originally posted by WILDONE
Hey Seven, any word on xdreams, are they going to open ahead of schedule?

I just called Mike and he said that we are looking at September
give or take a week.

[justlooking]

Originally posted by Sinful7
If your so worried about your life being ruined and you love your
wife so much than answer this question for me that I don't
understand. If you took vowels for better or worst til death do
you part and this is the person you choose to spend your
life with, than why are you seeing prostitutes? If your sex life
in your married relationship, leads to wander and try out other
women, do you really think your wife is happy? This is the
reason why I am not in a committed relationship because I don't
understand, if you love someone what makes you be with other
people. Everyone says I spend alot of time myself but it because
of my lifestyle and I won't subject someone that I say I love to
that, and you do it indirectly. Than you come here and jump on
me because someone slip in there game, and because it touched
so close to home, because that could happen to you with
anybody. So who to blame me or you? .......and as for privacy
I have lost jobs over protecting my customers privacy, I have
brought light to establishments about that and made them
change there set-up. People really shouldn't throw stones when
they live in glass houses.

You can be as judgmental about married guys seeing prostitutes as you want. I don't even disagree with you. But one thing we're paying you for is discretion. If you don't like that, then don't do sex work.

[sod]

Originally posted by Sinful7
why are you seeing prostitutes? If your sex life
in your married relationship, leads to wander and try out other
women, do you really think your wife is happy? This is the
reason why I am not in a committed relationship because I don't
understand, if you love someone what makes you be with other
people. Everyone says I spend alot of time myself but it because
of my lifestyle and I won't subject someone that I say I love to
that, and you do it indirectly. Than you come here and jump on
me because someone slip in there game, and because it touched
so close to home, because that could happen to you with
anybody. So who to blame me or you?

You are to blame. Keep your mouth shut. It's part of your job. Jesus Christ, I can't even get my wife's doctor to tell me anything without her written permission, but you should be able to discuss your exploits freely with your clients' spouses? You're crazy. I hope other ladies advertising and posting here have a serious problem with the way you conduct business. Not that you care.

[JackT]

Originally posted by justlooking
...discretion. If you don't like that, then don't do sex work.

Or make it clear to each of your clients beforehand that discretion isn't part of the deal.

[clubber]

Originally posted by Sinful7
So I should of been like fuck everyone eles if
they want to get AIDS and die because they don't want to
protect themselves so be it.

Gee, makes one wonder about the people who've seen you in the last 8 years on "Strong Island."
I guess they're just fucked (pardon the double entendre) if they got a HJ from you in the last 8 years before this "revelation."

[clubber]

Originally posted by Sinful7
If your so worried about your life being ruined and you love your
wife so much than answer this question for me that I don't
understand. If you took vowels for better or worst til death do
you part and this is the person you choose to spend your
life with, than why are you seeing prostitutes?

But it's OK if you only took consonants :)

[clubber]

Gee, I have never met Seven (that I know of), and I'm not married anyway, but after hearing her philosophy of doing business on this thread, I would NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER see her. Anyone this judgmental about married johns (and here I completely agree with jl) should NOT be doing business in this arena. In my opinion....

[bobo529]

Originally posted by Sinful7
If you took vowels for better or worst til death do
you part and this is the person you choose to spend your
life with, than why are you seeing prostitutes?

You take vows.

You buy vowels from Pat Sajak.

[Sinful7]

You can be as judgmental about married guys seeing prostitutes as you want. I don't even disagree with you. But one thing we're paying you for is discretion. If you don't like that, then don't do sex work.

First of all there is no brench in privacy Mrs. Beaver reads UG and
she and her husband talked to me today. I had permission to
speak on the experience. This couple have agreed to be my
first couple that I can talk about and film for my website. So
before you start going on about the situation get all the facts
first. I have never in all my years violated privacy with any of
my customers. If anything I have stood of for the rights of the
privacy of my customers. I know you guys remember the Teasers
incident, I lost my job to keep my customers privacy. So anybody
that has been with Seven, knows how I get down that why you
don't see bad reviews behind me name. The difference between
me and the other giirls that advertise her is that I am financially
secure to speak feely, and if it about privacy than why are you
guys on here airing what you do when you are tricking, Do you
know how many girls lives you fucked up talking about them.
I seen girls cry over shit that YOU have wrote about them. They
have quit and changed there names. So if you really want to
be so private why do you get to talk about the girls with out
there permission, but I can't talk about some that I have there
permission. Well I was going to have Mrs. Beaver post but
you guys are never going to believe it so I am going to do a
live interview with her and post it on my website, so than
all that are talking can see for yourself.

[Sinful7]

You are to blame. Keep your mouth shut. It's part of your job. Jesus Christ, I can't even get my wife's doctor to tell me anything without her written permission, but you should be able to discuss your exploits freely with your clients' spouses? You're crazy. I hope other ladies advertising and posting here have a serious problem with the way you conduct business. Not that you care.

Than keep your business to yourself. I don't see you, your not
one of my customers so don't worry about it. Sod you don't
know me and I don't know you so what the fuck do you care.
You should be checking that chick that your sticking your
dick in behind your wifes back, make sure she not telling
your business.

[justlooking]

Originally posted by Sinful7
if it about privacy than why are you
guys on here airing what you do when you are tricking, Do you
know how many girls lives you fucked up talking about them.
I seen girls cry over shit that YOU have wrote about them. They
have quit and changed there names. So if you really want to
be so private why do you get to talk about the girls with out
there permission, but I can't talk about some that I have there
permission.

This is a tough and interesting question.

My own belief is that if a girl advertises (anywhere, not just here) as a prostitute, she's fair game for discussion.

I agree with you that if she doesn't, then she's not (which is why I never ever discussed any strippers by name even when I used to discuss particular prostitutes, which I don't anymore).

But despite that, I think you have to admit that there's a big big difference between being a service provider -- someone who enters this field to make money -- and a customer. I and I think most customers think it's like a cardinal rule of this industry that customer privacy is paramount. It's not that different from my field: my clients can talk about me all they want to anyone, but I'm not allowed to say very much about them.

[justlooking]

Originally posted by Sinful7
First of all there is no brench in privacy Mrs. Beaver reads UG and she and her husband talked to me today. I had permission to
speak on the experience.

The issue isn't your speaking about this experience here on UG.

It's your talking to Mrs. Beaver about Mr. Beaver in the first place, first on the phone and then at Walt Whitman.

Did you have Mr. Beaver's permission to talk to his wife?

[Sinful7]

Originally posted by JackT
Or make it clear to each of your clients beforehand that discretion isn't part of the deal.

Nobody that has post to these comments are my customers,
and I am not a full time escort. I don't fuck for money to pay
my bills. I can sit on my ass and talk shit with you guys all day
long for the next year and not do a thing and my lifestyle will
not change. So leave all the extras for the tricks on here that
need your money to try and make it out the ghetto. Lets talk
about discretion for the year before I started posting I didn't
give one person permission to mention my name or what I do.
You guys took it upon yourselves to talk about all the girls from
Xdreams. So it is alright for you guys to talk about who does
what, but when I do it, it is a problem. You don't have to worry
about your wife finding out about Seven, because I haven't been
with anyone from this board that hasn't known me in the real
world. So all you virtual johns of Sinful "7", you have nothing to
worry about because the sign that hangs over my door says
Sexual Scientist not Escort. I am sitting on more money now,
than ever before, so believe me I don't need drama. I am here
to speak freely like you guys, and if you can talk about banging
a chick on the board I can talk about my personal life too, as
long as I am not giving real names and dates it all good. See
it all good when it is the "Tricking Crew" talking about there
lastest conquer, so I can talk about it too. Name one person
that was hurt from the situation. The only reason it fuck up
to you is because your worried that it could happen to you.
I work as a sex surrogate, and I don't see any problem talking
about it, when you guys are on here talking about which
hooker gives you more bang for the buck. If you can't take
the heat stay out the kitchen. This is a sex board, if you can't
handle what the sex situation is from the other side of the fence
than go to another thread, but if you want to know what the
womens prespective is tune in for the next tale of Sinful "7"
Masters Live and Uncut.

[pswope]

Originally posted by justlooking
This is a tough and interesting question.

My own belief is that if a girl advertises (anywhere, not just here) as a prostitute, she's fair game for discussion.

I agree with you that if she doesn't, then she's not (which is why I never ever discussed any strippers by name even when I used to discuss particular prostitutes, which I don't anymore).

But despite that, I think you have to admit that there's a big big difference between being a service provider -- someone who enters this field to make money -- and a customer. I and I think most customers think it's like a cardinal rule of this industry that customer privacy is paramount. It's not that different from my field: my clients can talk about me all they want to anyone, but I'm not allowed to say very much about them.

I don't think that's the point 7 is making. I think she is suggesting that there is a certain amount of hypocrisy on the part of johns,who publicly(albeit quasi-anonymously) discuss their whoring. These discussions as well as connected activities do place johns in harms way. Since we are talking about a breach or violaton of an implied right of privacy(not to have one's spouse or SO told),it is certainly relevant to the discussion.

That being said, I still believe that the sanctity of privacy is so great that a working girl shouldn't violate it without just cause. However, the pwerful indignaton raised here should be mitigated by our own self-destructive behavior.

[Sinful7]

The issue isn't your speaking about this experience here on UG.

It's your talking to Mrs. Beaver about Mr. Beaver in the first place, first on the phone and then at Walt Whitman.

Did you have Mr. Beaver's permission to talk to his wife?

Lets keep it real Just Looking you don't see Sinful "7" and you
never played in the Garden of SIN, and your not on the list so
why are you so concerned. This is Sinful "7" telling it like it
is, and the fact is that if you guys want to play keep your game
tight. And since you want to know about permission from the
husband go back and read the original post about the situation
I didn't even know who her husband was. As a matter of fact
I didn't know who her husband was even after I met him. So
the point is how can I tell information about somebody I don't
know. Good back and read than hit me with your reply. She
thought I was a Sexual Therapist. NOT A ESCORT!!!!!! she
thought her husband was coming to me for help.

[justlooking]

Originally posted by pswope
I don't think that's the point 7 is making. I think she is suggesting that there is a certain amount of hypocrisy on the part of johns,who publicly(albeit quasi-anonymously) discuss their whoring. These discussions as well as connected activities do place johns in harms way. Since we are talking about a breach or violaton of an implied right of privacy(not to have one's spouse or SO told),it is certainly relevant to the discussion.

If 7 thinks that, she doesn't understand ANYTHING.

We post on these boards ANONYMOUSLY.

Everybody knows that the biggest breach of whoreboard ethics is outing someone. It's the most unspeakable thing you can do.

There is no way in the world that anyone with the slightest understanding of the ethics and practices of this industry can argue that posting anonymously as a john on a whoreboard gives any sex worker a right to out johns to their wives.

[sod]

.

[justlooking]

Originally posted by Sinful7
And since you want to know about permission from the
husband go back and read the original post about the situation
I didn't even know who her husband was. As a matter of fact
I didn't know who her husband was even after I met him. So
the point is how can I tell information about somebody I don't
know.

Oh, so you didn't get his permission because you didn't even know whose wife you were talking to. That makes it MUCH better.

[jasonbuju]

Originally posted by justlooking
If 7 thinks that, she doesn't understand ANYTHING.

We post on these boards ANONYMOUSLY.

Everybody knows that the biggest breach of whoreboard ethics is outing someone. It's the most unspeakable thing you can do.

There is no way in the world that anyone with the slightest understanding of the ethics and practices of this industry can argue that posting anonymously as a john on a whoreboard gives any sex worker a right to out johns to their wives.


DITTO DITTO

[sod]

The urge to go completely ballistic is almost too strong to ignore.

[sod]

And I think this Mrs. Beaver is about as real as the Tooth Fairy.

[Sinful7]

Granted that I am not the UG expert or an escort queen. I
come from a different field of sexual entertainment than
what you guys talk about on the board normally. The
Public Relations team feels I need to let this ride, so I putting
the whole thing in nuetral. The last thing I want to do is
come across like I don't take advise or I just don't care about
what you guys have to say. So I am going to make the situation
work for me.

I do believe that there does need to be a confidentiality agreement between the provider and the john, because
personally it not cool having people wives call you because
they aren't covering their tracks.

I must say that I don't just speak for myself. Alot of workers
from Xdreams has commented behind the scenes about how
there lives has been ruined from UG. Here 3 examples:
1) One girl got so upset she quit
2) Girls has gotten into fights with each other over stuff said
3) 2 girls relationships has been destroyed over it
.....so in behalf of the girls please ask before you post about
a girl and make sure that she wants her name on the interent,
because from the girls point of view they feel like they have
been hurt more than any guy, because no guy has gotten
exposed from going to Xdreams and it is a double standard
that you do it to them. I think most women in my field would
rather you ask before talking about what she does with
anyone sexually.

As for the Confildentiality Agreement I think it is a great idea.
I am opening up a Sexual Headquaters for my sexual research.
Anyone that participate are going to have to sign an agreement
that says that anything that goes on here stays here, and that
will include post on UG. If there's anything that you think should
be added in the agreement than state it. I would never want
to be caught up in a sexual scandle. I think that this agreement
is so important after going through this board that I am going
to call my lawyer and have him draw one up for me, so then
we are legally binded to silence. That way when people come
into the Garden of SIN not only do they know that they are getting excellent service with out the risk of being exposed.

The only thing I ask from you guys is to watch your tracks.
Please empty your pockets before you go into your house,
make sure that you clean yourself up so there is no scent
trails, don't write any checks (believe it or not people try to),
Clear your computer screen try to use a different log in name
than the one the family uses, and clear the number off your
cell phone after the call, speaking of phones don't call from
your house phone, and there shouldn't be any problems.
Home comes frist, never get so caught up in the game you
get sloppy leaving you and provider at risk to be confronted
by anyone.

[Sinful7]

Originally posted by sod
The urge to go completely ballistic is almost too strong to ignore.
......and life goes on. Don't be mad get Glad

[Sinful7]

This is a tough and interesting question.

My own belief is that if a girl advertises (anywhere, not just here) as a prostitute, she's fair game for discussion.

I agree with you that if she doesn't, then she's not (which is why I never ever discussed any strippers by name even when I used to discuss particular prostitutes, which I don't anymore).

But despite that, I think you have to admit that there's a big big difference between being a service provider -- someone who enters this field to make money -- and a customer. I and I think most customers think it's like a cardinal rule of this industry that customer privacy is paramount. It's not that different from my field: my clients can talk about me all they want to anyone, but I'm not allowed to say very much about them.

JL- of all the people on the board I have always respected your
post and I know that you always come across with a clear
thought. Thanks for the words. I will incorporate all these comments to make Sinful "7" the best person she can be.
The situation could have been really bad but turned out really
good. So because I haven't had any negativity yet with me
customers, Thanks to a Great PR team, I am taking all this
information to build Sinful "7" Entertainment to the next level.

[justlooking]

[superceded by last 7 post]

[JackT]

7, I don't know how your proposed written confidentiality agreement would work, but I'd love to see it when your lawyer is done drafting it.

One major point here that I hope you are not overlooking is that confidentiality, discretion and secretiveness of clients' info are the DEFAULT. That is, it is simply UNDERSTOOD in the sexual entertainment biz that sexual entertainers NOT disclose personal info or what happens behind closed doors (or in a closed van!).

I agree with you that we johns need to "keep our games tight" -- and of course Mr. Beaver was somewhat to blame for leaving your number where his wife could find it. BUT that still doesn't absolve you from maintaining the secrecy, and it CERTAINLY doesn't give you the right to meet with someone who claims to be the wife of one of your clients (regardless of how, in hindsight, it all turned out).

[lawyer101]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by clubber
Who could resist a provider that gives covered HJs
/QUOTE]

Ummmmm...I guess you missed 7's post about the guy at Teasers that shot blood at the peep show window? She's only trying to be safe. I think we shoud be applauding her and not putting her down. Maybe if all providers were as safe as 7, then maybe the percentage of johns getting STD's from working girls would be down.

[lawyer101]

Originally posted by pswope
....Hate the game, not the player.


Very well stated...:)

[lawyer101]

Originally posted by sod
You are to blame. Keep your mouth shut. It's part of your job. Jesus Christ, I can't even get my wife's doctor to tell me anything without her written permission, but you should be able to discuss your exploits freely with your clients' spouses? You're crazy. I hope other ladies advertising and posting here have a serious problem with the way you conduct business. Not that you care.

I still don't understand why everyone is getting on Seven's case. I could see if she had stated that the couple seperated due to her conversation with Mrs Beaver. That is not the sitauation. No harm was done, so who cares? No one on this board knows Mr & Mrs Beaver. Maybe they have an open relationship, and the fact that Mr Beaver spent some time with Seven didnt bother Mrs Beaver. Seven had lunch with Mrs Beaver, so obviously they don't have a hostile realationship. It appears that they were getting along. I think we are all judging Seven without having the complete facts of what is going on.

[Socketome]

Pick-up..... lawyer101 whiskey down.......

[clubber]

Originally posted by lawyer101
[QUOTE]Originally posted by clubber
Who could resist a provider that gives covered HJs
/QUOTE]
Maybe if all providers were as safe as 7, then maybe the percentage of johns getting STD's from working girls would be down.

Maybe if the moon was made of green cheese, we could feed more starving children in the world with it.

I think it more likely that if most providers were as "safe as 7" they would have no customers. As far as I know, no one has ever reported contracting an STD from administering a BBHJ.
If we were simply talking health here, to be "safe" I'm sure providers would also wear rubber gloves and eliminate ALL contact with a client's body. In fact, we should ALL probably be walking around in bubbles. Seven's virtual sex gig sounds like a much safer way to go for her anyway.

Sorry if I come off as a tad sarcastic and condescending. When you hobby, I'm sure you never get BBHJs, but most of us do...

[sod]

Originally posted by lawyer101
I still don't understand why everyone is getting on Seven's case.

She did not seem (initially, at least) to grasp the seriousness of admitting to a john's spouse that she was seeing him. The cardinal rule is deny, deny, deny. She became defensive and condemned anyone who is married and sees prostitutes. She then retracted her statements, which is (if you ask me) fairly hollow in light of what she had just said not too long before. But it's savvy business, and she's all about the paper.

Speaking only for myself, if all prostitutes adopted Seven's approach I would never have had an opportunity to cease seeing prostitutes for the good of my marriage, because my marriage would have been over. And I would've been over.

She seems to "get it" now, and I don't think anyone will be getting on her case anymore if she continues to "get it".

[clubber]

At least her "PR Team" seems to have gotten it and explained it to her.

[Sinful7]

I stand alone but many people hold me up.

Life as a Sexual Entertainer is Off the HOOK!
......I want to give you guys a glimps from the other side,
but you guys have to remember there is nothing pretty
in this game but faces. So that I don't brench anyones
privacy is it all right to talk freely about things that go
a couple of years back because that was a different time.

[pswope]

I think many here dig hearing about your experiences and even though many johns can't handle it, many others appreciate when a lady from the supply side keeps it real.

The only thing you should be aware of in talking about shit that happened in the past is to obviously not include anything that could lead to someone (be it trick or working girl) getting outed(or indentified). I'd also probably not talk about shit that happned with anyone on the board exept with their permission and not share any info sent to you in private(eg. electric mail)

Simply stated talk about shit in a general enuf way so readers can get your point,but not who you're talking about.

[justlooking]

7, just to repeat, the breach of privacy everybody that upset everybody was your talking to a customer's wife, not your posting about it.

Posting's fine (as long as you leave out the personal details that would identify the subject). (Even better, as you note, if you write about things that happened a few years ago.)

[MikeyParmigiana]

I have never met this young lady, but as a result of her actions, she is off my list. I doubt many of us on this board HAVE to pay for sex. Most of us do it for reasons other than it being the only way to get laid. In my opinion, part of what I pay for is privacy and discretion. Granted Mr Beaver f'ed up big time. But to meet with his wife?!?!? Bad business decision. In this case it was no harm, no foul but what would have happened if 7 was to receive a subpeona to appear as Mrs Beavers star witness in divorce court? It could have happened.

I think, and again it is just my opinion, that since 7 uses terms like "sexual entertainer" , "sexual research, "pr team" that it almost seems like she thinks of herself as a young, hot, Dr Ruth. Fact is she is a provider. Mrs. Beaver may have been the only wife in the world to be so understanding.

[pswope]

7
If it's ok with you,please post your cholesterol count. I think it will help bring closure to this matter.

[the chief]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Sinful7
As for the Confildentiality Agreement I think it is a great idea.
I am opening up a Sexual Headquaters for my sexual research.
Anyone that participate are going to have to sign an agreement
that says that anything that goes on here stays here, and that
will include post on UG. If there's anything that you think should
be added in the agreement than state it. I would never want
to be caught up in a sexual scandle. I think that this agreement
is so important after going through this board that I am going
to call my lawyer and have him draw one up for me, so then
we are legally binded to silence. That way when people come
into the Garden of SIN not only do they know that they are getting excellent service with out the risk of being exposed.



7,


you have to do whatever it takes to keep things as clear as possible. you also have to consider that some of your research has to be kept confidential as everything is not for all to know like any behind the scenes experiments (what could they be??)

[Sinful7]

I think, and again it is just my opinion, that since 7 uses terms like "sexual entertainer" , "sexual research, "pr team" that it almost seems like she thinks of herself as a young, hot, Dr Ruth. Fact is she is a provider. [/B]

That exactly whos job I am coming for. Dr. Ruth has her doctrin
in Mathematics, and she old as shit it time for some new blood.
As for a provider, my not your average. I am on the road to
retirement, do you think after spending all those years in the
club that my next venture isn't to spend the next couple on my
back. I am at the crossroads that why I can be honest about
things that has happend to me. You guys see me like I'm in the
business of providing but in all actuality I am tring to make a
dent in the internet, and it is working. Think about it I put
things in the wind just to see the leaves ruffle.

[Sinful7]

Originally posted by the chief
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Sinful7
7,


you have to do whatever it takes to keep things as clear as possible. you also have to consider that some of your research has to be kept confidential as everything is not for all to know like any behind the scenes experiments (what could they be??)


I learn from every step I take, that why I am the way I am.
Everything for the Sexual Headquaters is being taken care
of by the Real Estate Agent, the Lawyer, and the Accountant.
All I have to do is smile and nod and hand them the cash and
keep business going. I state my word on this: That in a year
my website is going to be off the hook, I have the best team.
They see my effort and they won't let my fall. I will be sitting
at home making money all day, because that my focus and what
I focus on I achieve, and I'll bet the house on that.

[Sinful7]

Originally posted by pswope
7
If it's ok with you,please post your cholesterol count. I think it will help bring closure to this matter.

If I knew it I would tell you. I like being the bad girl, this makes
my computer time so much fun, this whole thread is so hot.

[Sinful7]

Originally posted by justlooking
7, just to repeat, the breach of privacy everybody that upset everybody was your talking to a customer's wife, not your posting about it.

Posting's fine (as long as you leave out the personal details that would identify the subject). (Even better, as you note, if you write about things that happened a few years ago.)

You know what JL. I have in the game so long that I don't think
people would believe half the shit I would say anyway. I bet
people don't believe this stuff. Somebody sitting at home like
no way this could of happend, because I live the life that you
would see in a rap video. Mo' money Mo' problems, and still
I am topping charts. Sinful "7" LIVES ON! another saga under
my belt from the trails and tribulations of Seven Masters to
the direct scrunity of UG, to behind the scene with Sinful "7"
Entertainment.

[Sinful7]

Yesterday I talked with Cream for a little while she said she
getting ready to take the road trip back from Cal. and that
she should be home in a couple of weeks. She told me to
tell everyone Hello, and that she can't wait for things to get
up and popping.

[billyS]

I really have no intention of starting up the whole conversation again because I think all that needs to be said on both sides has been said. Everyone made their points well, but Since I'm coming in late on this (I was away all week) I just want to say a few things.
1) In my time with Seven one of the things I've always been impressed with her is that she does take advise and always listens.
2) She is not a provider and the card Mrs. Beaver found stated that she was a Sexual Therapist so it is not like she found a piece of paper with a number on it.
3) For all you guys who stated that you will never see her because of this incident, my first selfish thoughts are, good more for me, but also realize this:
After all the fuss and back and forth on this thread you have to know that Seven will take in all that has been said. She is on UG not only to advertise but to learn. Do you really think she would ever do that again after seeing all the backlash? She really takes everything in she reads here and uses it.
4) There has been a few occasions where Seven has gone out of her way to protect my anonimity. She is sensative to that from my persective as far as not calling back on a cell and a work number that I might not answer directly.
I know Seven has learned alot from this thread and that is like her to listen to people and follow advise. I'm sure under any conditions Seven will not be responding to anyones wife, if in fact one of slips up and leaves behind evidence of an encounter.
I just wanted to add that, like I said I'm not trying to restart the conversaion.

[MikeyParmigiana]

Originally posted by billyS
2) She is not a provider and the card Mrs. Beaver found stated that she was a Sexual Therapist so it is not like she found a piece of paper with a number on it.


She is a provider. Perhaps not like the others, but a provider none the less. I doubt anyone else other than the regular posters on this board are capable making the distinction.

[MikeyParmigiana]

Originally posted by billyS
After all the fuss and back and forth on this thread you have to know that Seven will take in all that has been said. She is on UG not only to advertise but to learn. Do you really think she would ever do that again after seeing all the backlash?


I have not seen a post from her saying "Holy shit, didn't realize what I was doing fellas. It will never happen again"


This is a board for opinions, in mine the risk of seeing her is too great. I hope you have a long and pleasant relationship with her and wish you nothing but the best in your escapades. But, don't be surprised when one day you are walking through the mall and see 7 and your SO sharing a calzone at Sbarro's

[billyS]

Originally posted by Quasimodo
First strike - stalking Danielle.
Second strike - meeting with a customers wife
Third strike - not accepting responsibility for a dumb choice.
Go ring your bell asshole. First off she never stalked Danielle, second, how would someone who registered in July know about their tiff anyway. Why don't you be honest and post under your usuall handle.

[pswope]

Originally posted by MikeyParmigiana
I have not seen a post from her saying "Holy shit, didn't realize what I was doing fellas. It will never happen again"


This is a board for opinions, in mine the risk of seeing her is too great. I hope you have a long and pleasant relationship with her and wish you nothing but the best in your escapades. But, don't be surprised when one day you are walking through the mall and see 7 and your SO sharing a calzone at Sbarro's

MP & Q

A casual disinterested reader(which I am not) can easily discern contrition on 7's part and an acknowledgement on the issue of privacy. It is at a minimum naive to expect anyone,let alone a 20 something newbie to PMBs to post an outright apology. She's not a frikking politician caught in flagrante delicto.Those who are uncomfortable with her position on this stay away. This constant browbeating of supply siders(whatever the frig she does) in an effort to garner an acceptable degree of contrition and properly articulated apology (see e.g. Alize thread) is silly and may be more about the needs of the johns than the principle at hand.

[justlooking]

I disagree, swope. I'm not trying to browbeat 7, but if you read her posts you don't see contrition, or even understanding why we're so upset. You see her softening her stated position on advice of her PR advisors.

I think in this case guys want an "articulated apology" not because they like to lean on working girls on this board, but because the breach was of something so central to the core values of this industry that we really worry when it seems some service provider doesn't understand them.

[pjorourke]

True to form, I seem to have come into this discussion late. What exactly did Seven do?

[pswope]

jl
since billy is back ,I've put my white stallion & armour back into the garage. However(and I have an advantage over you in interpreting 7 speak having met her in person),if you read the body of her responses,including one directly to you about trying the best she can & the confidentiality agreement,it is fairly implicit that she understands she has erred.

The issue is an inability to directly admit to it,whether it be from narcissism or lack of humility a characteristic that particuliarly enrages the guys on this board. I reference a certained banned lady, posting in this section,who while more clear in her writings also caused similiar responses due to a similiar inability to express unmitigated contrition,albeit in a different context.

[justlooking]

I know. And both you and I used to get real pissed off when another poster used to tell everybody not to try to make her "feel guilty" but rather to soften our responses to her.

[MikeyParmigiana]

Please do not lump me in with some guy who has an obvious axe to grind. I have been nothing but respectful to all the posters and providers who visit this board and I have no hidden agendas anywhere.

I was merely adding my opinion on an opinion board. If you feel comfortable with your future dealings with 7, then by all means enjoy yourself. I don't know what anyone else has to risk, other than myself. In my situation, the absolute number one priority is anonymity and discretion. Her breach is the one I fear the most. I do not have to pay for sex and I'll bet most of you don't have to either. I choose to for my own reasons and when I do there are things I expect and confidentiality is one of them.

I have never even been to Julies (as much as I have read about it) because of their screening process. It would require giving away more real info than I am comfortable with. I know I am missing something special as a result, but this is the decision I made.

I do not brow beat anyone, I do not require contrition, and have absolutely no idea who or what the beef with this other girl is.

[pswope]

Indeed. My horse (and empathy) are both in the garage. The problem is ,of course,when our knowledge of a poster is from personal interactions rather than what they post, we take our ehnaced perspective of that person with us. That is an advantage other posters do not have. This presupposes that the pussy factor doesn't bias a john, a highly dubious supposition*

though not about me(insert irony emoticon)

[billyS]

Originally posted by pswope
of course,when our knowledge of a poster is from personal interactions rather than what they post, we take our ehnaced perspective of that person with us.

DITTO

[Sinful7]

You guys make life so interesting for me. I am going to
hit everyone one on the late night, because I have all the
time in the world to go back and forth. As for now I am
going to enjoy my retirement and get a salt sea bath and
a water massage and than go play racket ball with a
friend. No matter what said about Sinful "7", I still live
the good life.

[sod]

Super.

[Cookyman]

All I got to say is this girl's got her shit together.
She works at somethnig, and does it. It's alot more then most other women in this business do.
Her head is screwed on right in my book.

[Sinful7]

Cooky your giving me a sweet tooth:)

[Cookyman]

Only speaking the truth.

[Sinful7]

Today I was out taking a ride on the Island and I think
I found the perfect office space, the only problem is that
it is in Suffolk and I was leaning more toward Nassau.
Location is everything, so I have to be wise in what
I decide. I am so excited this well be the finally step to
Sinful "7" being totally independent. I have to say that
it feels really good to come out of the game on top.

[billyS]

Originally posted by Sinful7
the only problem is that
it is in Suffolk and I was leaning more toward Nassau.
Hey once you really get going you can have an office in both counties. Work a different location each part of the week.

[Sinful7]

You have a point there. I could rotate locations, but that
would mean I need a 6 month lease and most people
want at least a year lease. I really like the idea of moving
it around.

[billyS]

Actually I was thinking you rent an office in each county simoultanously then Work Mo, Wed, Fri in Nassau and Sat, Tue thurs, in Suffolk.

[lawyer101]

Originally posted by Sinful7
Today I was out taking a ride on the Island and I think
I found the perfect office space, the only problem is that
it is in Suffolk and I was leaning more toward Nassau.
Location is everything, so I have to be wise in what
I decide. I am so excited this well be the finally step to
Sinful "7" being totally independent. I have to say that
it feels really good to come out of the game on top.

Seven,
I think your location in Suffolk would be fine. All us Nassau guys would take the trip into Suffolk to see you. Well at least you know that Cookyman & me would take the "journey" to spend some time with you....:)

I want to complement you on your new photos on your webpage. You look "so hot!". Now those pictures truely reflect what the Sinful One looks like...:) The old pictures that you had, did not do you any "justice.

Now, what do I need to do to get a Sinful 7 doll?...:)

[Sinful7]

All I do all day is play on my computer and talk to the computer
techs. I really have to thank the techs for putting me on the
quality picture I needed, so that meant more megapixels.
I also have a private photographer that does work for me.
This whole Sinful "7" Entertainment is growing by the day.
I really try to use the best people and products, that how
I keep the team tight. Well the behind the scene website
is getting video crazy, I have alot of videos now and I have
posted them all in documents and the new ones are on the
front page under announcements. I started sending out
more invitations out to the private website. In like
the next week the public one is going to changed so that it
more organized getting people in the loop.

[Cookyman]

7,
Look at it this way. People went to Suffolk to see you at X-Dreams so that shouldn't be a problem.
I'll call you later about a small office I just saw yesterday in Nassau that you may be interested in.

[lawyer101]

Originally posted by Sinful7
All I do all day is play on my computer and talk to the computer
techs. I really have to thank the techs for putting me on the
quality picture I needed, so that meant more megapixels.
I also have a private photographer that does work for me.
This whole Sinful "7" Entertainment is growing by the day.
I really try to use the best people and products, that how
I keep the team tight. Well the behind the scene website
is getting video crazy, I have alot of videos now and I have
posted them all in documents and the new ones are on the
front page under announcements. I started sending out
more invitations out to the private website. In like
the next week the public one is going to changed so that it
more organized getting people in the loop.


Your photographer did a great job with the pictures. At least the pictures are a good representation of you.

I wish I could play your videos, but they don't work on my computer. I bet you taped some "crazy shit"....:)

BTW, what ever happened to my copy of Windows 2000?...:)

[lawyer101]

Originally posted by Cookyman
7,
Look at it this way. People went to Suffolk to see you at X-Dreams so that shouldn't be a problem.
I'll call you later about a small office I just saw yesterday in Nassau that you may be interested in.

Cooky,
Good job keeping your eyes open....:)

[billyS]

Originally posted by Sinful7
Well the behind the scene website
is getting video crazy, I have alot of videos now and I have
posted them all in documents and the new ones are on the
front page under announcements.
Seven, the 'I want 2 sex-U up' video is just so damn hot. I love the way you hump your cute little ass on the couch and the shots when you run your hands down the inside of your thighs with your legs spread in the air are awesome. I put the Window Media Player on full screen so I have 17" of pure Seven. The whole thing the way you did it is so creative, I'm not sure if I'm impressed more with your Video editing skills or your performance on the couch. Amazing how much progress you have made with that website.

[Sinful7]

People don't believe that I'm addicted to this stuff.
I up before everyone in the morning answering *****s
and recording video all night......and in the mean time
in between time indulging in my sexual desires. The
next one I am going to do is Akinele "Put it in Your Mouth"
and he's a rapper from Lefrack and I going to have footage
from there and make a whole theme about it, but I can't
give it away your going to have to be suprised.

[Cookyman]

Met with 7 yesterday to show her the office/store space I found for her. She said it's perfect!!!
She's waiting to hear back from the landlord to get the ball going.

[lawyer101]

Originally posted by Cookyman
Met with 7 yesterday to show her the office/store space I found for her. She said it's perfect!!!
She's waiting to hear back from the landlord to get the ball going.

Cooky,
I spoke to Seven last night and she was telling me about the location. It's in a "good spot". She's happy that its not that far of a ride for the Queens guys to come down and visit her. I swear its like a 10 minute ride from my house. That will be a good thing for me late night after work....:)

I told Seven that you,her, and me all have to go out for "drinks" one night...:) Now, we just have to find a night that fits everyones schedule.

[Sinful7]

I like that idea. We really should go and hang out it not
like we are strangers. Plus we might be able to go for
the celebration of the office, that the best reason I can think
of for a late night drink.

LETS TALK: Sexual Headquaters

Check this out! Cooky put me on a day or two. Yesterday I
was at Icyss house laying out chilling in the sun with my
girl friends, and the phone ring, I answered. What perfect
timing, I talked to the landlord for a minute we had a great
conversation. He had said that he was on vaction until
August 5th, so I told my friends load up in the van we off
to get pictures for the website while the owner on vaction.
So we get there with the camara and the handycam doing
an on location shoot and the guy walks out the building.
Some vaction. So it worked out for the best, we got to go
in and look around. The guy even thought that it was
cool, I told him I ran a multi-media website so when he
seen the camaras and the girls, he knew it was the real
deal. My girlfriend Princess was with me too, and she had
him melting. I know this guy was thinking this would
be cool hot chicks filming and producing next door.
Maybe 4 hot chicks in a little bit of clothes is what you
need to find real estate in LI.

[Cookyman]

Lawyer:
Tell me when.
Work it out with 7 and see who else wants to get together and we can work it out.
Maybe we can have a UG Party Long Island Style

[lawyer101]

Originally posted by Sinful7
I like that idea. We really should go and hang out it not
like we are strangers. Plus we might be able to go for
the celebration of the office, that the best reason I can think
of for a late night drink.

LETS TALK: Sexual Headquaters

Check this out! Cooky put me on a day or two. Yesterday I
was at Icyss house laying out chilling in the sun with my
girl friends, and the phone ring, I answered. What perfect
timing, I talked to the landlord for a minute we had a great
conversation. He had said that he was on vaction until
August 5th, so I told my friends load up in the van we off
to get pictures for the website while the owner on vaction.
So we get there with the camara and the handycam doing
an on location shoot and the guy walks out the building.
Some vaction. So it worked out for the best, we got to go
in and look around. The guy even thought that it was
cool, I told him I ran a multi-media website so when he
seen the camaras and the girls, he knew it was the real
deal. My girlfriend Princess was with me too, and she had
him melting. I know this guy was thinking this would
be cool hot chicks filming and producing next door.
Maybe 4 hot chicks in a little bit of clothes is what you
need to find real estate in LI.

Seven,
Celebrating the New Office sounds like a good reason to go out for some cocktails...:)

I bet this guy was in "paradise" when you were telling him about your website. I could only imagine the thoughts that were going through his head...:) Why aren't I lucky enough to have 4 hot chicks living next door to me? Instead I have a couple with 2 kids. It seems like all those 2 kids love to do is scream and annoy "the hell" out of me. I guess I'm just not one of the lucky guys...:(

[lawyer101]

Originally posted by Cookyman
Lawyer:
Tell me when.
Work it out with 7 and see who else wants to get together and we can work it out.
Maybe we can have a UG Party Long Island Style

I'll chat with Seven again and get this "hooked up"...:)

[billyS]

Good looking out Cookyman. Seven, the office looks great I hope it goes thru. That video of you and your crew checking out the place was funny. When you go visit Icyss and you see that Haiti poster you're going to remember that day and laugh. So how old is Moses? months?, years?

[billyS]

I just checked out Seven's latest video, Seven in Suds and it is really hot. If you got to her intranet website you will see it. The Sinful one naked, spashing around in tub full of suds, washing those long slender legs and then it looks like someone is giving herself a happy ending. Great stuff.

[Sinful7]

Sorry you guys I have had a long week too much partying.
Well I am on my way to Utica to drop off Icyss. The
Seven Suds video came out so hot. I worked on that for
a week with the recording and editing there is two versions
one that open to all and a private one for members only.
Now we are working on Akinele "Put it in your mouth".
It going to be different from the other videos, because I
want to capture the essence of the oral fixation. Alot of
people have oral fixations, I want to really focus on the
mouth and tougue. I was thinking about using some friuts,
because I like the way it looks when the juices are following
down your mouth. I could use all types from soft to hard fruits.
People love to eats so I think this will really work. I just
have to learn how to compress the video files because they
are big now and I could make them smaller for people with
slower connections. I am glad you like it, and there more
to come from Sinful "7" Productions. I am off to go to party
with these crazy chicks. I am going to bring the handycam
so you guys can check it out behind the scenes.

[ARMAGEDDON]

OOOOKKKKAAAYYYYY when are you going to let me in on members site?

[Gooey2k]

Originally posted by Sinful7
I just have to learn how to compress the video files because they are big now and I could make them smaller for people with slower connections.

This time you remember to bring the laptop, and I'll remember to bring the software. Between the two of us, if we put our forgetful heads together we might actually get it done this time :D

[billyS]

Originally posted by Gooey2k
This time you remember to bring the laptop, and I'll remember to bring the software. Between the two of us, if we put our forgetful heads together we might actually get it done this time :D
Good luck Gooey !!!. You bring your software, she will bring the laptop, then you will get in the back of the van, Then alittle kiss here and there, then some stoking and all of the sudden its, Ok, next time we will do the software. LOL, trust me on this, been there, done that (and I mean that in the most pleasant of terms). The Sinful one is very tempting when you enter her Gaden of S.I.N.

[WILDONE]

Damn, I want some of the sinful one, but i cant get her info. the site does't let me access too much

[billyS]

Originally posted by WILDONE
Damn, I want some of the sinful one, but i cant get her info. the site does't let me access too much
Her ad here on UG has her ****** address. The guys who have been persistant and patient have met her aquaintance.

[WILDONE]

thanks for the info

[billyS]

Originally posted by WILDONE
thanks for the info
Your welcome. But like I said be patient. She gets alot of ******.

[Sinful7]

I am back.....I wasn't able to post, but thanks to Slinkys
help I am back in the loop, and now it is time to let you
guys into my private website. Everyone that has *****ed
me about it will either get their pass in or an ***** about
screening to make sure all is clear before we play in the
"Garden of Sin"