A good reason NOT to date Strippers

[justbill_redux]

From todays Post at http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/70806.htm

'TRICK' TURNS DEADLY

By ERIC LENKOWITZ, MURRAY WEISS and BRAD HUNTER

March 14, 2003 -- A stripper was stabbed to death early yesterday at her Queens apartment after a sexual romp with another woman and a john turned bloody.
Marly Ambrosini, 25, and her 35-year-old gal pal - who are both Brazilian strippers - apparently brought Aaron Gutierrez, 24, back to their apartment at 41-31 60th St. in Woodside for a carnal encounter.

But when Gutierrez emerged from the shower, he claims he discovered one of the women rifling through his wallet.

A struggle ensued and the exotic dancer - who worked the runway at the Candlewood Inn in College Point - was stabbed to death with a steak knife, while the other woman, whom neighbors described as her lover, was slashed repeatedly with a broken vodka bottle.



"The lady came out naked wearing nothing but a G-string. She was cut badly on the neck and the wrists, crying for help," witness Carlos Castro, 27, told The Post.

Just minutes later, a wild-eyed man emerged from the two-story, three-unit brick home in a hooded sweater and baggy jeans.

"She [the surviving stripper] screamed, 'That's the guy,' " Castro said, adding that he followed the man, who "looked scared."

"The woman didn't speak [much] English, and was screaming her head off. There was blood all over."

Castro - who had been walking his dog - used another woman's cell phone to call cops. They arrested the suspect, who was being held by a group of city workers.

Detectives say that the suspect is claiming he acted in self-defense and that one of the women was holding a knife while she robbed him.

Queens DA Richard Brown said Gutierrez was being charged with murder, attempted murder and weapon possession. The surviving stripper is in stable condition at Elmhurst Hospital.

"I tell them, 'Never trust anybody,' " a bartender at the Candlewood said. "They're crazy to go home with somebody."

[edouble]

i feel for the death of any one but if it is true that they were trying to vic him, serves her right.

[ExLS]

Originally posted by edouble
i feel for the death of any one but if it is true that they were trying to vic him, serves her right.

It does NOT serve her right. That means if I caught you, going thru my things shot and then ask later???

[mitchmaxx]

Going through my things, or ROBBING me? If its the latter, then fuck them, I'd shoot first,AND make sure they where dead so they wouldn't sue me. There are too many stories of someone getting hurt while commiting a crime, and then suing the owner of the house, or business.

I'm in a really evil mood today.

[ExLS]

Originally posted by mitchmaxx
Going through my things, or ROBBING me? If its the latter, then fuck them, I'd shoot first,AND make sure they where dead so they wouldn't sue me. There are too many stories of someone getting hurt while commiting a crime, and then suing the owner of the house, or business.

I'm in a really evil mood today.

If she is trying to kill you, fine. If you ask her to stop(which I doubt myself) and she does, but you try to hurt her, who is right by law?

[Cloud Nine]

I was so relieved to see justlooking make a post today after I read this.

[Casper]

"I tell them, 'Never trust anybody,' " a bartender at the Candlewood said. "They're crazy to go home with somebody."


I wonder how many cats they had?
That bartender is in reality a Brain Surgeon.

[TDAISYK]

Shit....I took a stripper home last night....left my wallet out, cash, etc. Intstead of steeling from me, she left her hat and her panties at my place.....

and those panties smelled like a succulent rose i might add...

[fumpton]

The Daily News had the same story in today's paper, except the details of the story are different.

[Psychosis]

Originally posted by edouble
i feel for the death of any one but if it is true that they were trying to vic him, serves her right.

I agree with u 100%

[justbill_redux]

From the NYTimes @ http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/14/nyregion/14STAB.html

Man Held in Stabbing Death of Dancer From Queens Bar
By SHAILA K. DEWAN


Two women in Woodside, Queens, were stabbed yesterday, one of them fatally, by a man one of them had met just hours earlier at a topless bar in Queens, the police said.

About 9:30 a.m., neighbors heard the older of the women screaming, nearly naked, on the sidewalk outside her apartment building, where the younger woman had been fatally stabbed. "I thought, it's something seriously wrong," said Marcus Quigley, 29, a neighbor. The older woman had called 911 during the killing, the police said.

The suspect, Aaron Gutierrez, 24, of 144-44 41st Avenue, was caught near the house and charged with murder and criminal possession of a weapon. He was out on bail for a charge of attempted rape, a law enforcement official said.

Yesterday's attack, the police said, came after a long night in which Mr. Gutierrez met one of the women, whom the police said was a 25-year-old dancer, at the Candlewood Inn, a topless club in Flushing where, employees said, all the dancers are Brazilian, as was the victim. They went to a hotel on Queens Boulevard, the police said, and later to the apartment, at 41-31 60th Street. The older woman, a 35-year-old from Brazil who a neighbor said was a construction worker, was already there.

The ensuing events are murky. The police said Mr. Gutierrez told them that he was about to step into the shower when he was hit on the head with a bottle. He turned, the police said he told them, to see the two women, one of them with a kitchen knife, which he wrested from her. "He lashes out," one police spokesman said the man had stated under questioning. "He doesn't see too well, he doesn't have his glasses on. He grabbed his sneakers and he ran."

Mr. Gutierrez claimed not to remember stabbing the younger woman, who had multiple wounds in the neck, chest and abdomen, the police said. He had injuries to his head and cuts on his hands.

The women's names were not released. The 35-year-old was taken to the hospital with knife wounds to her neck, shoulder, arm, hand and knee, the police said. She was released yesterday afternoon and taken to the precinct house for questioning.

A man who said he was Mr. Gutierrez's father said that his son worked at a restaurant.

[robnotbob]

Originally posted by fumpton
The Daily News had the same story in today's paper, except the details of the story are different.

Then how can it be the same story?

[jim-rock]

the candlewood in... ahh... such a rathole.

[fumpton]

Originally posted by robnotbob
Then how can it be the same story?

as we all know from reading these boards, there are 3 sides to every story, his side, her side, and what really happened.

[Casper]

So there's another story we've yet to read.

[skagen]

You don't leave you wallet in the room while taking a shower during the session. What is he - a dummy? Even if it was elf defense, he probably deserved to get his money stolen for being that lax.

[kunny]

someone will be going home with a stripper tonight. it does not matter what just happened. unbelievable. when will we ever learn?

[Dondee]

Originally posted by Casper
So there's another story we've yet to read.

Are ya gonna volunter to write it?

[grant]

that guys story does not make sense. If a hooker is gonna rip you off, she is not gonna do it at her place so that you know where she lives and can come back for revenge. Me thinks the young lad is full of shit. why do murderers always "conveniently" forget stabbing someone. I think that is something I would remember.

[Casper]

because as we all know, sometimes hookers are not that bright.

[Dondee]

Maybe they need to use more bleach in their laundry! :D

[justlooking]

Originally posted by kunny
someone will be going home with a stripper tonight. it does not matter what just happened. unbelievable. when will we ever learn?

NEWS ITEM: "Pedestrian Gets Run Over Crossing Street"

KUNNY: "It's not going to stop. Someone will be crossing the street today. It does not matter what just happened. Unbelievable. When will we ever learn?"

[Dondee]

NEWS ITEM: "Happy Hooker hyjacks yet another thread"

KUNNY: "It's not going to stop. Someone will be starting a new thread today. It does not matter what just happened. Unbelievable. When will we ever learn?"

[Danielle]

Originally posted by edouble
i feel for the death of any one but if it is true that they were trying to vic him, serves her right.

You know what I think is really unbelievable? What edouble just said! Serves her right?! I think this whole thing is just really sad and tragic. One person's dead, one person's as good as dead because they'll be spending the rest of their life in prison, and one person will be traumatized for the rest of their life.

You know what pisses me off? Every time there's a news story involving a stripper that's all you here about. The fact that she's a stripper. If a woman won the lottery, saved a baby from a burning building, robbed a bank, or got raped in an alley on the way home from school and then they found out she was a dancer, you just know the front page headline would read something like "Stripper responsible for ......" Why does the media have to be so damn sensational all the time? Being a dancer does not define me as a person. I'm not talking about the story on this thread. Obviously the fact that she's a stripper is pertinent to the story in this case. I'm talking about other instances.

[justme]

Personally, I've felt the American media has been anything but sensational for at least a decade.

[TheNewAnimal]

Originally posted by Danielle

Being a dancer does not define me as a person.
I so very much agree with you. Titles suck, people are people, everyone needs to move past catagorization.

[daengman]

Flushing man convicted in murder of exotic dancer in Woodside
By:Scott Sieber
06/30/2006
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A Flushing man was convicted on Wednesday of stabbing an exotic dancer to death and trying to kill her roommate in their Woodside apartment on March 13, 2003, Queens District Attorney Richard Brown said.



A jury of six women and six men deliberated for six hours before returning a verdict finding Aaron Gutierrez, 27, of 65-70 162nd St., Flushing, guilty of second-degree murder, second-degree attempted murder, assault and criminal possession of a weapon before Queens Supreme Court Justice Sheridan S. Roman.
He faces 50 years to life in prison when he returns for sentencing on July 26.
According to trial testimony, Gutierrez stabbed Marly Ambrosini, 29, a construction worker who also worked as an exotic dancer, multiple times in her chest, back and neck inside her Woodside basement apartment. When her roommate, a 35-year-old woman who also worked as an exotic dancer, awoke to her screams, Gutierrez turned the knife on her and slashed her several times across her throat, wrist and shoulder, law enforcement sources said.
"The defendant has been convicted of intentionally attacking two women inside their apartment and to have caused the death of one woman and to have inflicted serious physical injuries including permanent scarring and emotional torment on her roommate," the district attorney said. "The attack was violent and vicious and justifies a lengthy state prison sentence."
Following the bloody encounter, Gutierrez fled the apartment while Ambrosini's roommate ran out behind him screaming for help, the district attorney said.
Law enforcement sources told the TimesLedger in 2003 that city municipal workers grabbed Gutierrez a few blocks away and held him until police arrived.
Police recovered a bent and bloody six-inch steak knife with a serrated edge from Ambrosini's apartment, the district attorney said.
Sources told the TimesLedger in 2003 that at the time of the incident, Gutierrez was out on bail on an attempted rape charge in an incident in which he tried to force himself on a female acquaintance at knifepoint. The woman had let him sleep in her apartment because he said he needed a place to say, the sources said back then.

[brykster]

The Daily News had the same story in today's paper, except the details of the story are different.

this is why you NEVER trust the media to gewt ANYTHING right.

of course, the events are tragic and i'll betcha this Gutierrez guy has a record. not anyone can be instantly turned into a murderer regardless of the circumstances...by the way, there is not a jury in the world who will buy the conjecture that he stabbed a woman multiple times to death and slashed another on her neck and wrists in an act of self defense. this guy is a dirtbag regardless of the circumstances. i've been robbed by strippers plenty of times and i toss it up to MY stupidity. these are people who sell their bodies for money; do you really think they could resist the temptation of having it left unattended (of course this last point is dependent on which of the shit for brains media outlets you choose to believe.)

[lamont5123]

Well, the jury didn't buy his story of being a victim.

I didn't buy it either the first time I read about it.

I'm not surprised he got convicted.

Strippers are hustlers. It's their nature and it's their job.

No one deserves to be stabbed to death for stealing a few bucks.

And people who think so should not complain when their cars are confiscated or they're jailed for mongering.

[brykster]

And people who think so should not complain when their cars are confiscated or they're jailed for mongering.

Lamont this is a VERY strong point. you are both a gentleman and a scholar.

[lamont5123]

Brykster,

You are most kind.

One day, I will make the ride to Paterson because if I don't, my two monger sons will kidnap me and tie me up in the trunk of one of their cars.

And I'll probably wake up in Duluth.

I met the great Slinky and I really like that guy.

[h_latimer]

Brykster,

You are most kind.

One day, I will make the ride to Paterson because if I don't, my two monger sons will kidnap me and tie me up in the trunk of one of their cars.

And I'll probably wake up in Duluth.

I met the great Slinky and I really like that guy.


Enter information about the Candlewood here.

BTW. Is take out still available ?