What's so bad about "not FS" ???

[Slinky Bender]

I have seen a number of guys complaining about various women, that they would love to see them, but there was no FS. If a lady were absolutely gorgeous, intelligent, etc. and provided the best BBBJCASTAR you ever had in your life, would you even care ? Would you get around to anything else ? Or is it just the concept that she is "holding something back" that is objectionable ??????

[Phantom]

If Buffy Tyler or Brooke Richards, both Playboy Playmates were reported to give mind blowing BBBJTCASTAR, I would not care in the least that FS was not on the menu. I'm sorry, but I'm addicted to great oral. But since neither are available to me, I perfectly content and satisfied to see those women who do indeed give great oral, although they could not be considered "10's", but they become more attractive if only because of their abilities and personalities. And they are well aware of just why I have become regulars of them, only because of their oral abilities.

[Ozzy]

if she can give an outstanding bbbjtcastar.......i wouldn't care if it was a guy................well ok not that but wouldn't need much else.

[dicer5]

i don't think i've ever read of any provider just advertising bj. i always assumed when someone advertised as an escort, the fs always came with it. it seems like i hear of more women not doing the bbbj than not doing the fs.

[Ms Hooker]

If only you guys would be on the giving end of all this you would see that most providers like MySelf are more than willing to do FS!!!! If only U guys didn't want us(Girls) to give the little guy some oral before to BIG RUSH to the TUNNEL !!!! As I said before HONEY if U Don't have it in the Hips U better have it in you LiPPS!!!

[robnotbob]

With some ladies I've seen, it hasn't made a difference. A great BJ is awesome. Altho depending on the price point, one would want to get to "The Main Event" sooner or later. I'm always up for a half and half.

[JohnFrancis]

Actually, I remember one lady I saw in NJ who gave the best BBBJ I'd ever had, but TC was not on the menu. I finished with FS which was ok but really nothing special, but her BJ skills were beyond compare (for me, anyway). If she offered BBBJTC, I would've DEFINATELY gone back, and would NEVER have asked her for FS again!

[Volfan]

Iagree with a few of the above posts....

bbbj is very important to me....

I always dine first....you could call it "high mileage insurance", but in fact, at least half of my pleasure is gained from having my partner act like an M&M (melt in my mouth not in my hands). Generating a big "O" via y-dining nearly always ensure reciprocal bbbj, with more than 80% of the tc-type....

Having said that, fs is improtant too,but if I need ahead of time that Buffy was gonna bbbjtcastar, fs would'nt necessarily have to occur - but I'd be exploring ALLL possiblities, plus looking for multiple bell rings....all after of course, making her slide off the bed she just wet, smile.....

Volfan

[ryan]

If a girl has a nice rack, I'll gladly take an uncovered TF with some baby oil, over covered FS... BBBJ is great too. FS is not a big deal for me usually. I'll take a knock-out non-FS girl any day over an average-looking FS provider (which explains why I enjoy spas so much...)

[robnotbob]

For those who "know" me (do we ever really KNOW anybody, espeically here??), I was originally strictly a spa guy, then some jokester introduced me to someone who turned my life upside down (in a figurative sense, right MrNY?). FS was never very important to me and if I could get BBBJ or TF or anything above what the "typical" spa experience is, at a decent price point I would be OK. As long as I knew going in no FS was available.

I saw a 2 women last year that I had a great time with no FS (not advertised as spas, per se) and the price was right and the above "conditions" were in place. But that's rare for me. One of them was a FS provider that f**ked up her schedule and gave me a discount because she had to leave.

I will go to a spa for massage and dial up an FS provider if I choose to go beyond that. However, I guess in spas other than NYC, FS is on the menu as well.

[Edited by robnotbob on 01-08-2001 at 12:35 PM]

[fumpton]

Ok, I'm good up to BBBJTC, but what's the ------ASTAR?

[frog]

fumpton, I belive: ASTAR= and stays there after release

[Rufus Moses]

I think "not FS" is likely addressed at the level of biological hard wiring. To the extent that sexual expression has a genetic basis, clearly men without a strong drive to culminate sexual activity via intercourse would be at a significant reproductive disadvantage relative to those with such a drive.

Even though we "know" a pay for play session is not about reproduction, those innate drives are still going to steer our behavior. Result: guys are going to want FS even as they are willing to wear condoms.

[robnotbob]

Yes, but given the typical price discrepancy between FS and non (except in "higher end" massage places like Mad Club vis a vis say, Julie's pricing), the question may be "share of wallet" OR some higher "ethics" (I don't have a problem getting a massage or BBBJ with a little release afterwards VERSUS going horizontal with a provider..the old Prez Clinton "sexual relations" argument)

[frog]

btw slinky, who are these girls being complained about as non-FS?

[Slinky Bender]

frog,
I see it all the time. Isn't a current example someone who is supposed tobe comming to NYC from LV, who someone complained that when FS was broguht up that they were told "that's extra" ?

[frog]

sb, actually, I don't know -- I always get what I want, heheh, vv, you know how that works, right?

There is a world of difference between a girl who is not FS [I respect that and it actually makes me work harder to get the FS] and girl who wants extra for FS. We call them CT

[Phantom]

Frog,

WHY do you call them Connecticut?

Sorry, I just couldn't control myself.

[frog]

Good one Phantom. I don't think Conecticut girls are more or less prone to this than any other girls though.

[Ozzy]

if it's the girl from LV i think it is...she offers a lot more than FS. also she's coming with her friend and word is that they're one of the better doubles sessions around.

i'm taking a pass cause niether is my type. :(

[Ozzy]

frog,


Originally posted by frog
I don't think Conecticut girls are more or less prone to this than any other girls though.


nice jewish girls from queens are

[Edited by Ozzy on 01-09-2001 at 06:45 PM]

[Ozzy]

any way of getting "html" posts to work? ;)


i'm not usually this picky but.......i am rather lazy and this quote feature is a pain in the ass.

[frog]

the blizzard ozz

can't we tip those nice Jewish girls a little something extra to avoid the hassle???

[Ozzy]

a fucking mink maybe? ;)

[One Eyed Trouser Trout]

Caffeine free, Diet Coke. I mean, what's the point?

FS-less appointment? Hell, rent a tape and masturbate and save like 200 bucks. Or, hit a strip club, buy 1 dance, leave aroused and then get a 20 BJ on the corner.

Most of what we do is between the ears anyway, why be a fool about it and fork over much more than it's worth?

[littleguy]

frog,

BBBJTCASTAR, The BBBJTC you know, the rest is And Stays Totally And Remains. Coined by a fellow after a review of mine.

Better abbreviations I think are.

BBBJNQBS - BBBJ No Quit But Spits
BBBJNQNS - BBBJ No Quit No Spit

Compliments of, I believe, VolFan (but I'm not sure).

SB,

I saw the LV girl and talked to her. I believe it's only one guy that said she is Non-FS and she claimes it is a misunderstanding. Her story is that when she first started doing this her girlfriends that got her into it didn't explain "everything". She said, and I obviously have no way of proving it, that the first guy she saw expected F/S and she said "No". Now, I believe the hobbyist said, she said "F/S is extra", so there is a little difference of opinion here but she is DEFINITELY F/S.

There is a lady in Florida advertising on http://www.independentgirls.com named Savanah. Picture is blurred but she appears to be a knockout. Her prices are $250/hr, $400/hr for F/S. On the site it says "Let's just say that her French Lessons are 'good to the last drop'". It further says "If you see Savannah between 8AM and 4PM you can 'step up to the plate' as many times as you can in the hour."

I personally think there is NOTHING beter than BBBJNQBS or NS myself. There is no feeling like cumming in her mouth and her staying there until you're done. I don't care if she spits or swallows. I will see this lady when I am down there next month for sure. P.S. I can get to her before 4 P.M. also.

[Phantom]

Anybody know when the next flight to Miami leaves ewr? Hope I have enough time to get my viagra prescription refilled.

[jester]

When my (now ex) girlfriend used to BBBJTCASTAR, it was so great that we often didn't get to the "main event" (I reciprocated, of course). For some reason, it seems to be the most intensely erotic action that I can think of.

One day she said that it made her nauseous (!?!) and she didn't want to do it anymore, and although I might beg, I never forced her. Sex never seemed as good after that.

Does anyone know, for certain, of providers who give BBBJTCASTAR? And not when you have to see them several times for them to get "comfortable" with you.

[jester]

BTW, I just found this board. Looking Good! Let's try to keep it this way.

*** just got too damn ridiculous.




Slinkybender, you get three "attaboy"s for this one!

[Ozzy]

the cream (no pun) of that crop is Janice;)

[jester]

Ozzy

Sorry, I'm still relatively new to this. Janice who?

Thanks.

[Ozzy]

J,
from little guys post....http://www.independentgirls.com

[jester]

OHhhhhhhh!

My apologies, I thought you were responding to my question.

Good call though, although GiGi looks pretty hot too.

[Ozzy]

Janice needs a teacher.........get it.

[jester]

OHhhhhhhh!


Damn.

[Ozzy]

just wanted to add that i had non FS this past weekend, and i didn't miss a damn thing. ;)

[Phantom]

Yeah well SHE can do that for you! A team of wild horses could not keep me from picking her up at the train station this weekend.

[Ozzy]

except maybe if i meet her half way and derail that train.

[Phantom]

The ONLY thing that could possibly stop me would be if the "Sky" fell on me.

[Phantom]

Ozzy,

You should make use of that other number I gave you for the girl here in NJ. Trust me, she's just as good as Pam.

[Ozzy]

i know i know, now that i have time i'll get to it..........i just wanted you to get it out of your system first.

[Phantom]

Get WHAT out of my system? The girl here in NJ? Afraid that's not going to happen. She has joined my "friend" from down south in my head and they both will haunt me forever.

[Slinky Bender]

Sounds like that scene from Ghostbusters.....

[Phantom]

Yeah, but WHO am I going to call?

[Ozzy]

a hitman ?

[Phantom]

nah, I got something else in mind.

[Ozzy]

you could always get brain washed.

[Ozzy]

or i could introduce you to my little friend.

[Phantom]

As long as your little friend is not a frog or a gerbil

[Ozzy]

nooooooooooooooo! i told you she would be perfect for you....... she respects those who treat her right. and she shows it.

[Phantom]

In your opinion she might be perfect for me, but in the long run she will just join the other two. And that would be strike three for me.

[Ozzy]

noooo i don't think so. she doesn't have a hateful bone in her body.

[Ozzy]

phantom,

just so you know......many homeruns have been hit with two strikes on the batter. you just gotta take a few pitches and get to a full count........


then swing away when it comes over the plate.

[Phantom]

I assume we're talking about the same girl. If she is as sweet as you say she is, and I have no doubt that she is, the way I look at it is that I'm doing her a big favor by not seeing her. Most likely I would fall for her and like others in my past, I'm sure the feelings would not be reciprocated. She would wind up hating me. And then that would be the end.