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dvsNYC
01-09-2003, 04:38 PM
Some of the girls there are extremely friendly. :D

I received a lap dance from this one girl, goes by the name Rebecca, and was asked if I wanted to do a private dance. She was very cute, petite, and a brunette - just my type.

I went for a half hour and during that time had myself a great BBBJTC. YMMV but just wanted to share the wealth.

yoyoyo
01-09-2003, 05:20 PM
I want to chack infinity out but i live in NJ. I was wondering what it will cost me on top of my $.06 to have some fun ?

dvsNYC
01-09-2003, 09:11 PM
I believe each girl is different. They do it on their own accord since the club gets its money upfront for the room time anyway.

This girl asked .8 for the BBBJTC and offered CFS for 1.2$ - no BBFS whatsoever.

Oh, forgot to mention there was some decent DFK but I have taken her for LD's a few times prior to this particular time. YMMV.

Zoltan
01-10-2003, 04:46 AM
dvsNYC,

Could you give me some basic info about this place. I pass it all the time on my way to Circles down the street and have always wondered about it.

Is there a cover charge?

Price for a beer?

Lap dances are $20.00. Is this for a full song, a time limit or just when the girl feels like stopping?

Cost to enter the private room?

tunahead
01-10-2003, 06:23 AM
well was there last nite. i have posted on another board about this place before. i think i was one of the first fans (no, i won't start a fan club).the basic info is this. an industrial area but totally safe . easy to park. not easy if you have no wheels. there is aups facility up the block so people are around and it's not that desolate. clib is very large with a runaway type stage and a bar all around. girls come down for tips after they get topless. a good mix of latin,black and russian with a couple of americans thrown in. no, this is nit stiletto's or delilah's so don't expect that type of knockout. bit some of the chicks here are hot. laps are $20 per song. in a semi private curtained room. really no interference from managment. ymmv but good 2-way contact. then there is the "champagne" room. well here's where infinity is worth the trip. if you find the right girl you can have a very good time for $120 for twenty min. i have found no tipping is required but that is just my experience. helen a hot , curvy russian is great and my atf patty a very petite and sexy brazillian are great. enjoy!!

Zoltan
01-10-2003, 12:20 PM
Thanks Tunahead. The only questions you didn't answer were about the cover charge & cost of a beer. Please let me know. Place sounds like a good time.

tunahead
01-10-2003, 01:03 PM
NO COVER CHARGE EVER. BEER $5 BUCKS.

Zoltan
01-10-2003, 01:04 PM
Excellent! I'm there next week. Thanks again.

Lbacker
01-10-2003, 04:52 PM
Address and/or Direction?

dvsNYC
01-10-2003, 07:42 PM
Here is their address:

51-07 27th Street
Long Island City, NY

I'd have to agree with tunahead's statements. I'd have to say that the ratio of hot girls to not is about 1 out of every 3-4. Not too shabby.

And yes, the champagne room is definitely worth it (but you have to find the right girl).

The weird thing is that lately they've been varying their operating hours. I stopped by earlier tonight around 7ish and it was closed still. I would have thought on the weekends they'd want to be open as much as possible.

Oh well, guess I'll have to try sometime next week. :D

Ozzy
01-10-2003, 09:49 PM
Is Helen the one with the shit stain tattoo on her ass? It's been referred to in other threads as "BM".

And is patty the cute 'very skinny' Brazilian? Her voice sounds like it came from a cartoon.... I know someone who's dying to take her into the vip room. She's got the same body as Luana.

edouble
01-11-2003, 11:40 AM
i went down there after i dropped my chick off at her house and i swung back towards LIC. easy to find, plenty of parking, no cover, they dont harrasss you to buy drinks, a very laid back enviorment. they dont have a coat check so you go in with your jacket. like it was mentioned above the place has a selection of various shades and ethnic groups. sat down at the bar a few of the chicks came down off stage trying to make a few bucks.

there was this one nasty russian chick that kept trying to get me to go get a dance. just nasty. a hispanic or she might have be a light skin black chcik came over. name was angel. 21 y/o, 5'7" A cup tatas and a fat booty. we made small talk and i mentioned how some of the chicks wouldnt be able to work at to many places, based on here looks. she agreed . went into the litle curtained off LD room. lots of gringing, roaming, after a second jay z song was over she asked if i wanted another or was maybe intrested in the champagne room. 120 would cover the cost 100 for the chick and 20 for the house. so we sit around and wait for the previous girl to get out. they only have one private room. they are looking to build 2 more. so we go in a similiar set up to x dreams reddish ligts , leather couch, and the door locks. i give her the fee. sit down and she says no i want to see that. i play dumb, lol and she points and rubs on my cock. take off my pants and drawers. put my jacket under me so i wouldnt be sitting where some one else's sweaty ass sat. she pulled out a rubber and started a cbj to get him hard. i was happy as a pig in shit and i sure as hell wasnt expecting a bj. she then tells me its gonna get better as she gets up and stattles me. bouncing her hips and ass. she got one of those buts that just shake like jello. she sped up the pace and i finsished. now thery dont have a garbage can, so she took the rubber rolled it up, knotted it and put it back in the wrapper. we sat and talked some more, wnet back to the bar and i left. spent a total of 1 1/2 hours, 160 LD and private rooms and left pretty happy.
i would recomend checking the place out. now i know my review isnt as graphic as some of the dudes on here, but just my two cents.

mikelove72
01-11-2003, 04:00 PM
Where is this place relative to Cityscapes in LIC. I have been to Cityscapes a few times but have not been able to hook up. There are some hot ones in Cityscapes. How are the girls in Infinity relative to that place. Which girls are the best in Inifinity?

Johny99
01-14-2003, 12:48 AM
Does anyone know if there is a subway near there?

Is it the E near 23 and Ely or Queens Plaza stop?

Steve

Johny99
01-14-2003, 12:57 AM
Here is a link to a map:

http://rd.yahoo.com/maps/insert/extmap/*-http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?&country=us&uz=&addr=51-07+27th+Street&city=Long+Island+City&state=NY&mag=9


Here is a link to driving directions:

http://rd.yahoo.com/maps/us/Tmap/extDD/*-http://maps.yahoo.com/py/ddResults.py?&newcountry=us&newtcountry=us&fuz=&tuz=&im=&taraddr=51-07+27th+Street&tarcity=Long+Island+City&tarstate=NY

Now I just have to find the closest subway stop.

billyS
01-14-2003, 05:12 AM
Originally posted by edouble
. now i know my review isnt as graphic as some of the dudes on here,
Like whose?
Nice review, are they open durning the week? What night did you go?

Ozzy
01-14-2003, 05:21 AM
That nasty russian chick is very annoying. She came close to becoming the first stripper I ever punched in the face because I told her ten times to leave me alone because I was talking to friends.

Casper
01-14-2003, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by Ozzy
That nasty russian chick is very annoying. She came close to becoming the first stripper I ever punched in the face because I told her ten times to leave me alone because I was talking to friends.

If it's the same one I'm thinking of, when I first got there she came over for a $1 tip. I asker her of her nationailty and she said Russian. When she came over for more $1 while dancing, I told her I had no more money for her. She somewhat persisted but I held my ground. Well it worked till she saw you guys (new suckers). Notice she looked mostly at you and not me when she came over ? lol

I HATE DAMN RUSSIAN DANCERS !!!! total rip off. I want to feel some skin when I tip and not air

justlooking
01-14-2003, 01:57 PM
I do, too, but there's this one Russian stripper at Privilege (stage name of Linda, I think) who, although she seems to be the usual icehearted wind-off-the-steppes bitch inside, is just fucking gorgeous and gives pretty good (for a mainstream club) dances, too.

Casper
01-14-2003, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by Ozzy
That nasty russian chick is very annoying. She came close to becoming the first stripper I ever punched in the face because I told her ten times to leave me alone because I was talking to friends.

Ozzy you got friends ? Poor guys. BTW thanks for the directions back, very clear and accurate.

frank735
01-14-2003, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by Johny99
Here is a link to a map:

http://rd.yahoo.com/maps/insert/extmap/*-http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?&country=us&uz=&addr=51-07+27th+Street&city=Long+Island+City&state=NY&mag=9


Here is a link to driving directions:

http://rd.yahoo.com/maps/us/Tmap/extDD/*-http://maps.yahoo.com/py/ddResults.py?&newcountry=us&newtcountry=us&fuz=&tuz=&im=&taraddr=51-07+27th+Street&tarcity=Long+Island+City&tarstate=NY

Now I just have to find the closest subway stop.

I used to work in that neighborhood, too bad this place wasn't around, it would have been big winner....

You want to take the 7 train to the Hunters Point stop. You'll have to walk a few blocks east. That stop is right where Skillman hits 49th. From looking at the map and knowing that area, it won't be too bad.

frank735
01-14-2003, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by frank735


I used to work in that neighborhood, too bad this place wasn't around, it would have been big winner....

You want to take the 7 train to the Hunters Point stop. You'll have to walk a few blocks east. That stop is right where Skillman hits 49th. From looking at the map and knowing that area, it won't be too bad.

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/caption.pl?/maps/route/nysubway.gif

This is a map of the subway Hunterspointsave is the second stop in queens on the 7 train.

edouble
01-14-2003, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by billyS
Nice review, are they open durning the week? What night did you go?

i went on a friday night, might check itt out agian this weekend. they are open monday thru saturday not sure of the hours though.

justlooking
01-14-2003, 02:33 PM
Thanks a million.

BClinton
01-14-2003, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by zoltanspencer
Thanks Tunahead. The only questions you didn't answer were about the cover charge & cost of a beer. Please let me know. Place sounds like a good time.

Zoltan......WTF??? You're gonna drop $100 or more with the dancers and are worried about the cover and price of a beer???

Better go to Chuckie Cheese.

Johny99
01-15-2003, 09:33 PM
Okay, I took the hike over to this place. First, it is about 3/4 of a mile from the closest subway, and it is pretty desolate. Not necessarily the safest walk. I was lucky, some nice guy for the local shelter walked me over there. He was a great guy.

This was a Wednesday night.

There was only about 7 girls there. None were super attactive. The really odd thing was that the only reasonably attractive girls didn't bother stripping when they were on the stage. They basically danced around rather unenthusiastically, and didn't take anything off.

One of them, Julia, came and sat next to me on the couch when she got off stage. I thought she was cute, but no big deal. I was not rude, but did not enourage her. She was Russian, and I was concerned she was the Russian girl who got negative comments in this thread. She really began to work me real good... rubbing my leg and hand, it actually got me horny as hell. So I asked her what the deal was with the Champaigne room. She said "you can touch and I can Touch you." I said "well, I don't want to get all wored up and have no place to go." I was seeing what she would say. She just reiterated that she would touch me and it would be fun. So I'm horny as hell thinking, do I take the Risk, throw down the bucks and give it a shot, or do I get on the train and go to F-Stop.

I decided to go to F-Stop to try Destiny. I get all the way to F-Stop and find out Destiny had just left. So I split. On the way home, I stopped by Empire video place on 33rd off of 6th Avenue, and checked out the live girls upstairs. To my surprise, the girls that were doing the shows were all hot. (for the longest, they were ugly as sin.) I checked out a masterbation show with this hot latino girl, and called it a night.

I heard that Infinity technically Opens at 6pm. I may try it again. But I was told there is only really a crowd from Thursday to Saturday.

billyS
01-16-2003, 07:38 PM
Ok so you had a shot at two real live girls yet you elected to shoot your wad on a glass partition?

edouble
01-16-2003, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by billyS
Ok so you had a shot at two real live girls yet you elected to shoot your wad on a glass partition?

things that make you go hmmmm

Johny99
01-16-2003, 09:36 PM
Okay gentlemen, since you guys don't seem to have a firm grasp on the obvious, let's try this one more time...

First of all...I said I saw a masterbation show. I never mentioned blowing my wad on anything, so don't go around projecting your habits onto others.

Secondly, Let's say i went in the room with Julia from Infinity, dropped a buck twenty or more, and she was content to grind up and down on me for 20 minutes. And that's it. Not my idea of a good time for that type of money.

Finally, I was all ready to have fun with Destiny, and she was not there. Not much I can do about that. With due respect to the other women who work at F-stop, but besides Tinee and (from what I hear Destiny), there is not one I would F*** for free much less pay for it.

So I decided to drop $25 bucks on a masterbation show and go home and get a BJ from a female friend of mine.

No harm, no foul.

Carry on...

frank735
01-17-2003, 06:35 AM
"go home and get a BJ from a female friend of mine. "

This changes everything....

Zoltan
01-17-2003, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by BClinton


Zoltan......WTF??? You're gonna drop $100 or more with the dancers and are worried about the cover and price of a beer???

Better go to Chuckie Cheese.


I wasn't going to respond but what the hell. It is my 100th post so I may as well make it a long one.

My personal preferences for strip clubs are the following:

Little or no cover.
Reasonable prices for a beer.
A nice atmosphere where I can sit and relax and enjoy watching the dancers and/or talking to them.
Friendly and natural dancers.
A private or semi-private lap dance area where the amount of time spent with the girl is controlled by the girl.

What I don't like :

Large cover charges.
Some huge guy in black standing by the door taking the large cover.
Overpriced drinks served by another guy dressed in black.
Loud atmosphere with blaring heavy metal and some barker (dressed in black) telling me to take care of the dancers every five minutes.
Pushy dancers and any dancer that has had her breasts enhanced.
A lap dance area that is monitored either by cameras, or by another huge guy (again in black) who keeps knocking or buzzing.

Basically I like strip joints to be like a regular bar. That is why I like Circles so much. No cover, reasonable drink prices, relaxed atmosphere, some (not all) attractive dancers, and high mileage lap dances that are controlled by the girl and myself and no one else.

I do not like Scores or any places like it that try to pass themselves off as fancy clubs. They're not for me.

So that's why I was asking questions. I was just trying to get a feel for the place. I have no problem spending $100 or more for good pussy. I have a huge problem wasting money on things I personally do not feel are worth it and this board is the perfect place to help avoid doing that.

Hope that answers your question.

shorty
01-17-2003, 10:04 AM
So what exactly do you have against Men In Black?
I personally thought Tommy Lee and Will Smith did a pretty good job with those movies......

Zoltan
01-17-2003, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by shorty
So what exactly do you have against Men In Black?
I personally thought Tommy Lee and Will Smith did a pretty good job with those movies......

Good one shorty.

Slinky Bender
01-17-2003, 10:42 AM
z,
You should check out Harry O's in Stamford.

Zoltan
01-17-2003, 11:00 AM
Thanks slinky. I found your post about Harry's. It sounds like my kind of place. I'll have to try to get there sometime soon.

Johny99
01-17-2003, 12:07 PM
Zolt, I hear you...

Hard, if not impossible to find those things in New York. I have, however, noticed that since the economy has gotten worse, things have gotten better with the clubs.

The first time I went to the strip clubs in Montreal, it ruined the NY scene for me.

The first club I went in to it was $10.00 Canadian for a dance. (That's about $6.75 u.s.) I went in the booth with this absolutely stunning 19 year old with long hair and a total hard body. Firm b cub breasts. She dancing away and then says in her broken english "you know you can touch me if you like" I was l ike Zoink!

I did three songs in which I was in heaven. I handed her two Canadian twenties and she kept trying to give me back change. I finally got her to understand it was a tip, and she gave me a big smile and a kiss. (Contrast this to the Paradise club where they charge you $20 bucks for a dance and after your done they tell you there is a $10 minimum tip and call the bouncer over if you don't give them the tip)

This is not to mention the stip clubs outside of Montreal where the women are all hot (not natural, but hot) and the dance rooms lock and *everything* is on the menu.

I make the 6 hour drive as often as I can ;-)

bigyi21
01-19-2003, 11:29 AM
im just crious how much time does the fee of the vip room buy? from the sounds of this place it sounds just like nickels and dumbartons.

edouble
01-19-2003, 11:43 AM
the vip is 120 for 20 minutes. 20 for the house 100 for the chick.

bigyi21
01-19-2003, 11:51 AM
im thinking of going there tonight im getting tired of the amp scene. how are the selection of girels there lately? do all the girls offer xtra services or must i make sure i know what im gonna get b4 i get in the vip.

Slinky Bender
01-19-2003, 12:06 PM
I think you'll be expteremely disappointed.

bigyi21
01-19-2003, 12:17 PM
well its gotta be better than a 40yo asian lady giving me a hj

edouble
01-19-2003, 12:55 PM
i believe they are closed on sundays

Casper
01-19-2003, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by edouble
the vip is 120 for 20 minutes. 20 for the house 100 for the chick.

Isn't VIP room LD room only? Seems like all the great action is in that private room at the prices you stated.

edouble
01-19-2003, 09:27 PM
there is a LD room which is curtained off then ther is a VIP room that has a lock and door on it, with a couch inside.

Casper
01-19-2003, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by edouble
there is a LD room which is curtained off then ther is a VIP room that has a lock and door on it, with a couch inside.

I agree but as I recall the curtained off area (LD room) actually has a sign above it that reads VIP.

Ozzy
01-20-2003, 11:29 AM
The LD's at Infinity depending on the dancer can get very high mileage. I was there the other night and the girl shoved my hand between her legs and asked me to get her off right there.

The thing that I find strange is that they let a lot of wanna-be thugs in there (who spend NO $'s) and when you go into the LD room you'll notice that while they're getting a LD, some other thug will walk up and start fooling around with the girl while she's on someones lap. They didn't bother me but it makes you wonder why they allow all the thugs in this place. They also attract all the girls who only want to sit with these guys and they don't want to work or LD anyone. Seems to me like they might be the girls pimps and once they walk in (aroun 1am) the action and dancing stops in this place.

billyS
01-20-2003, 03:07 PM
Thanks Oz. I was considering going to this place until you mentioned the thugs and the girls sitting with them. Why didn't you other guys mention that?

Ozzy
01-20-2003, 03:30 PM
They're not real thugs.. Just a bunch of 21-22yr old "wanna be's" dressed in Jersey's, baggy pants and parkers. They're not causing any trouble. But the girls flock to them and forget to dance or do LD's.

dvsNYC
01-20-2003, 05:45 PM
I usually don't stay there that late, so I've never witnessed what Ozzy stated.

But anyway, I went back the other night and saw Patricia. WOW!!!

So petite and extremely cute. Worth the time and money spent in the private room!!

Harmony Memories
01-21-2003, 08:06 AM
I think this is the same Patricia (Patty) I've seen in the old Gallaghers. Slender, Brazilian, with slight acne. How about some details regarding her VIP services ?

bigyi21
01-28-2003, 03:12 AM
well i was there tonight and was extremely disappointed. first of all the girls there range from ugly to hideous. i believe i saw 2 girls angel and spices. i took a lap from angel and to tell u the truth she smelled pretty bad and im sure extras are available since i saw some guy go into the little room by the entrance but i didnt even wanna know. well this is just my opinion but like i said i was not impressed with this place at all.

Slinky Bender
01-28-2003, 07:16 AM
How many times did Spices ask you if you wanted a lapdance?

edouble
01-28-2003, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by jjhunsecker
I think this is the same Patricia (Patty) I've seen in the old Gallaghers. Slender, Brazilian, with slight acne. How about some details regarding her VIP services ?

i went there on saturday night with a friend. i remember reading this post, so i asked her when she came off stage to get tips. she has worked at ghallaghers, also claims to have worked at scandals, honeys and a few other joints.

she has a nice petite body with a sweet lil accent. everything is tight, but she could use some breast enhancement. not too big since she is a lil thing.

Casper
01-28-2003, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by slinkybender
How many times did Spices ask you if you wanted a lapdance?

Just as many times as the Russians I bet.

bigyi21
01-28-2003, 12:58 PM
spices was actually on the stage and she came over to me 5 times in a matter of 10 min and i just got so damn sick of it that i went and sat on the couches right behind the bar because i thought it was such a waste of time and money to be sitting at the bar when she was the only one there. after she got off the stage she came over to me and myfriend and harrassed us forever to take a lap dance and i just straight out told her im waiting on angel. i didnt see any russian dancers there the only girls that were there were all black. i believe there were 5 girls in all but i only got to see 2.

Casper
01-28-2003, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by bigyi21
. i believe there were 5 girls in all but i only got to see 2.

So there were 3 blacks, and 2 spanish girls?

Casper
01-28-2003, 04:06 PM
The Russians must have had the day off.

bigyi21
01-28-2003, 04:39 PM
well i only saw 2 of them up close i saw onw in the ld room and i believe she was black as well. i thought this place would be somewhat like nicels or db only better but i guess i was there on a bad night because i do see the potential considering u get 20 min in the private room as opposed to like 5 or 10 in the other places. this place just needs to get the girls but maybe i was just there on a bad night considering it was mon and freezing out. so i wont be too harsh on this place but i was expecting a lot more.

Casper
01-28-2003, 04:50 PM
Lots more women later on in the week. However the quality of the ladies is not that much higher, if not the same.

tunahead
01-29-2003, 01:26 PM
never go to infinity on any nite other than thursday or friday. also, there are other attractive ladies do choose from. patty and the russian helen are hot.

busted
02-04-2003, 04:53 PM
Went to Infinity little over a week ago and took Ruby (5-5 blonde, b-cups) into the lap dance room. Great HR with a little Russian for 2 songs ($.40) and a $.20 tip. She said she mostly works at Charlies Angels in NJ, But the last time I was at Inf was last Wednesday and took angel. She's there to please $.2 for the CR and $ for the tip went CFS after a little CBJ. I just wouldn't go there to late. As the previous post stated, a little too thuggish.

Casper
02-04-2003, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by steinbuster
Went to Infinity little over a week ago and took Ruby (5-5 blonde, b-cups) into the lap dance room. Great HR with a little Russian for 2 songs ($.40) and a $.20 tip. She said she mostly works at Charlies Angels in NJ, But the last time I was at Inf was last Wednesday and took angel. She's there to please $.2 for the CR and $ for the tip went CFS after a little CBJ. I just wouldn't go there to late. As the previous post stated, a little too thuggish.


And her (Angel's) peach gets a little stankier. At least it was one of the times I was there late. Other than that she's the better ones I've test driven there.

chase4u
02-04-2003, 07:54 PM
Ruby is very sexy, i have wanted to try her out for awhile now, has anyone gotten fs or a bj from her in the vip? The thugs who go here not real thugs. dont worry about them, this is queens not bk.but if anyone has had Ruby , please give some details, is she worth the money in the vip?

John99
02-10-2003, 09:00 PM
I would consider Infinity...but I would be mighty pissed off if I paid bucks for the VIP room and all I got was the bump and grind. So a few questions...

Do all the girls offer Extras?

If not, are you just direct about what you expect in the VIP area?

I mean, there is always F-Stop and Julie's. Why should I take the risk?

marlboroman
02-11-2003, 12:53 AM
Stopped by there tonight at about 1:00 AM and it was closed. Did they just decide to close early for the night or was this a more permanent development?

tunahead
02-11-2003, 04:21 PM
helen is a very hot russian . she never takes her gown off below her hips. but in the private room she is very uninhibited. anybody have any war stories about her?

edouble
02-11-2003, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by marlboroman
Stopped by there tonight at about 1:00 AM and it was closed. Did they just decide to close early for the night or was this a more permanent development?

i believe closing time is 2 am durring the week, maybee a slow night.

marlboroman
02-13-2003, 04:22 AM
Checked it out again tonight and got there around 1:30 AM. This time it was all lit up but the bouncer said they were closed. Guess they are closing much earlier than their advertised 4AM. Guess business is slow

John99
02-15-2003, 12:50 AM
Stopped by tonight with JimmyDR.

There was really no girls there that were that attractive. The most attractive girl in the place was a civilian.

A tall pretty Dominican approached Jimmy for a lap dance. Jimmy wasted no time asking how much a blow job was. The girl looked at him and said "do I look like that type of girl." Jimmy laughed.

This was my second time there, and I have yet to be remotely impressed.

marlboroman
02-15-2003, 03:18 AM
I finally went there and it wasn't closed. Not much of a selection. The best looking girl there was a WoC named Spices. I would rate her an 8 face but I really don't like her body. Tall, skinny, small boobs.....like a runway model I suppose. However, she was being fawned on by two guys on the couch. A latino girl came up to me begging for a LD, I think her name was Irene or Irena. I said No about 7 times before she gave up and walked away. But she did promise me it would be special and probably the best time of my life. Of course this is coming from a dancer so take it with a grain of salt I say. Maybe I will check it out again and hope that the selection is better.

nycstripclubs
02-15-2003, 07:27 AM
It's hard to be impressed if you say NO every time they ask you for a dance.

JIMYDR
02-15-2003, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by marlboroman
I finally went there and it wasn't closed. Not much of a selection. The best looking girl there was a WoC named Spices. I would rate her an 8 face but I really don't like her body. Tall, skinny, small boobs.....like a runway model I suppose. However, she was being fawned on by two guys on the couch. A latino girl came up to me begging for a LD, I think her name was Irene or Irena. I said No about 7 times before she gave up and walked away. But she did promise me it would be special and probably the best time of my life. Of course this is coming from a dancer so take it with a grain of salt I say. Maybe I will check it out again and hope that the selection is better.

I checked it out and found most of the girls there were tall. Nothing in the 5 ft range at all.

JIMYDR
02-15-2003, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by John99
Stopped by tonight with JimmyDR.

There was really no girls there that were that attractive. The most attractive girl in the place was a civilian.

A tall pretty Dominican approached Jimmy for a lap dance. Jimmy wasted no time asking how much a blow job was. The girl looked at him and said "do I look like that type of girl." Jimmy laughed.

This was my second time there, and I have yet to be remotely impressed.

I agree with "99". It was nice to get there with another monger. I heard alot of good things about this place. I may try it again in a few weeks, After meeting up at F Stop we headed over there. In the future we might hit Bridgeport.

IMDONE
02-16-2003, 11:24 PM
I have never had the "pleasure" of visiting this establishment but it seems like it could be fun? My take on what I have read and what I have been told by friends who have paid a visit to this club is that most of the girls are overweight and have a$$e$ full of cottage cheese. If this is true why would anyone want to pay $1 for "champagne" room action? are there any girls there that would be considered "hot"? and worth looking for??

BClinton
02-16-2003, 11:45 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by John99
[B]Stopped by tonight with JimmyDR.

There was really no girls there that were that attractive. The most attractive girl in the place was a civilian.

A tall pretty Dominican approached Jimmy for a lap dance. Jimmy wasted no time asking how much a blow job was. The girl looked at him and said "do I look like that type of girl." Jimmy laughed.

So what was Jimmy's answer? Anything but YES would be incorrect, I'd guess.

Eugene
02-17-2003, 01:15 AM
Were those girls less attractive than Monica L?

chase4u
02-17-2003, 06:52 AM
Ruby and Patty and the hottest girls working her and they both are great in the CR, Ruby gives a great cbj in there and is very sexy while doing it, i didnt get full service from her yet, place was too dead on friday and the guard was by the CR door, didnt want too take a chance and bang her there. Has any gotten fs from her yet?

edouble
02-17-2003, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by chase4u
and the guard was by the CR door, didnt want too take a chance and bang her there.

bro, dont worry about matt, hes cool and he as well as the managment know what some of the girls here do. besides hes dating one of the girls there, i cant remember her name shes a tall blond white chick, i believe she of checkoslavakian decent or something like that.

busted
02-19-2003, 03:52 PM
Saw Angel on feb 5th. She said she'd be back in three weeks after getting size c's implanted. Definitely an improvement, looking forward to snuggling up to them.

Glad to hear Ruby's there, any idea of her schedule.

JIMYDR
02-19-2003, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by BClinton
[QUOTE]Originally posted by John99
[B]Stopped by tonight with JimmyDR.

There was really no girls there that were that attractive. The most attractive girl in the place was a civilian.

A tall pretty Dominican approached Jimmy for a lap dance. Jimmy wasted no time asking how much a blow job was. The girl looked at him and said "do I look like that type of girl." Jimmy laughed.

So what was Jimmy's answer? Anything but YES would be incorrect, I'd guess.

Damn straight, I said yes!

busted
02-22-2003, 05:18 PM
Met Eileen at Infinity Thursday night. I was very impressed by her looks and figure. A Halle Barry figure (though the breats were enhanced) with a very thin waist, long shapely legs and a very flat stomach, face reminded me of Raquel Welch (if a squinted alot). She was fun to talk to but that was it. Took 2 songs in the VIP room and was waiting for something to happen and never did. If your into great bodies with no extras ask for Eileen, but as far as the mileage at Infinity I was disappointed.

Slinky Bender
02-22-2003, 11:23 PM
Patricia claimed tonite that there is a "new policy": $20 for the VIP Room, and $20 more if you want the door all the way closed.

Casper
02-22-2003, 11:43 PM
I say that extra $20 should come out of the dancers pocket. After all if the door is staying open, no one is going to give the girls squat. So if it was $ to the girl for f/s before they should take 80. That's my opinion. Looks like time to do heavier research. Oh and that could potentially be great news for f/stop type clubs in getting more recruits.

I thought I saw a guy discussing something with the door guy as he was already inside the VIP room and the door was still open.
Why do clubs insist on fucking up a good thing ?

nycstripclubs
02-23-2003, 05:13 AM
You can try getting the girl to cut her price by $20, but all you'll end up with is an angry girl and lackluster service. I was never impressed by Infinity. So now, with that $40 VIP room fee, there's even less reason to leave Manhattan. When you got a place like F/Stop where you'll find equivalent looking girls who'll do the same extras often for less money, why bother.

JIMYDR
02-23-2003, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by Casper
Why do clubs insist on fucking up a good thing ?

Greed and no sense of running a business. No thinking of building up a customer base.

chase4u
02-27-2003, 02:44 PM
I was wondering which of these girls will be working at F-stop soon or even going the independent route with the club being so slow. I would say that Ruby and Patty are going to go independent or at least make some F- STOP drop ins. who do you guys think will make the jump?

JIMYDR
02-28-2003, 03:12 AM
Originally posted by chase4u
I was wondering which of these girls will be working at F-stop soon or even going the independent route with the club being so slow. I would say that Ruby and Patty are going to go independent or at least make some F- STOP drop ins. who do you guys think will make the jump?


Suggest F Stop to them. Give them a push.

chase4u
02-28-2003, 01:13 PM
i agree with JIMDR, we need to push the Infinity girls to F-stop, 1 problem with this club is the CR is to small , and sometimes the wait for a girl is too long, also have any of the other girls from the queens plaza area clubs appeared at F-stop yet? i mean the Dumbartons crew.

busted
03-04-2003, 06:59 PM
Went to Infinity last night and saw Angel with her new breastessess. Rather nice, and something that she needed. Didn't have much time to talk to her as she was on her way out. Took a rather lame vip room dance with Lisa. I believe Lisa is more comfortable in a one-on-one setting. She is going to do escorts with our own AAAPlatinum on Wed-Sat. I wish her luck, she could use a break. Very nice girl to talk to.

CLUB F/STOP
03-04-2003, 07:12 PM
Patti- is on the schedule for this Friday at 5pm. Guys please don't hold us to this but she has given us a committment so we'll see....

CLUB F/STOP
03-04-2003, 07:14 PM
BTW- please don't "push" the girls over here, we're actively recruiting them and it might work out better coming directly from us?!

chase4u
03-05-2003, 07:53 PM
What other Infinity girls beside Patty have you gotten for F-STOP? I will be droping by to see Patty this friday if she shows up, lets hope for the best.

chase4u
03-08-2003, 04:01 AM
How was this place friday night? any new talent? I was at F- Stop last night so i didnt drop by here, did i miss anything or was just a regular night?

edouble
03-08-2003, 06:44 AM
i might swing through late tonight around 1 or 2 tonight

chase4u
03-09-2003, 04:59 AM
hey HOW is this place on sat night? I was there friday night and it was very crowed with the young wanna be thug crowd, it sucked big time, who agrees with me that they will have a problem here 1 day with this group of thugs hanging here and starting some trouble up? I like this club allot but it needs to get rid of the thugs sitting around not spending a dime and bothering the girls, a dancer told me this is way she was leaving early because this group was not spending money and being jerks.Who thinks the mangement needs to step up the door policy b4 all the good girls leave again?

chase4u
03-19-2003, 08:16 PM
Is this club dead yet? has it lost all appeal or has it gotten better lately, i have not been here in over 2 weeks so have i missed anything here lately? Any new talent or is it the same old same old?

chase4u
04-18-2003, 01:16 PM
I am sorry to report this club is dying a slow a painful death, i went last night and the quailty has dropped to a hideous level and from what i have heard it wont be getting better, does anyone know where all the hotter girls from this place have gone to work?

busted
04-18-2003, 10:10 PM
I've been hanging with a tall slim Hungarian girl named Bridgette. Very attractive and fun to talk to but no happy ending. Can't have it all?

I saw two new girls, one was Tara (5-5 7 face and body, natural 38D's), not sure of the other's name but both a great improvement to their normal stock.

My friend took a lap dance with Tara, but got interrupted by her having to go on stage, and we had to leave before his happy ending. He said she was very hot for the thirty seconds he got with her.

Ruby was there and looking as frisky as ever.

chase4u
04-19-2003, 04:02 PM
Ruby is a freak in the CR, i say go for it with her, she is worth, btw has anyone been to Goldfingers Xtreme in L.I.C lately? I have been hearing some good things about it , i always that is was a rip off with a 20 dollar cover, has anyone been here and has gotten better?

tunahead
04-21-2003, 08:46 AM
was she a bartender there for awhile. i skipped going to this joint. but if ruby is who i think it is i'll go back.

busted
05-02-2003, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by tunahead
was she a bartender there for awhile. i skipped going to this joint. but if ruby is who i think it is i'll go back.

Sorry it took so long to reply, been out of town hoobying along the east coast. Ruby is about 5-3, fireplug type, very cute with a rather jewish hook nose and very round face. Blonde hair and blue eyes.

busted
05-17-2003, 01:53 PM
Correction on Ruby, I was at Infinity Wednesday night after Asscon to see Bridgette, and Ruby was there but has dyed her hair black. She said she's going to tyr it out for a month and maybe go back to blonde.

I went there to see Bridgette and get some normalcy back in my life, Asscon was as wild and crazy as I've ever seen it. Bridgette alone in the VIP room is as sensual as you can get without any "extras", and such a great personality, and legs that don't quit. It was a nice cool-down after the main event at Asscon.

chase4u
05-18-2003, 04:49 AM
steinbuster is Bridgette better than Ruby in the CR?? i always thought ruby was wilder than any girl here, could i be wrong?

busted
05-18-2003, 07:12 AM
Originally posted by chase4u
steinbuster is Bridgette better than Ruby in the CR?? i always thought ruby was wilder than any girl here, could i be wrong?

Ruby is definitely better than Bridgette, if its a happy ending ur after. About 2 months ago went in the LD room with Ruby, I think the key is...alone. One of the best LD I had, HR with a little Russian. Bridgette is, well, 5'8" of legs and blonde hair, and as sensuous as one can get. As I said, just came from Asscon, so a happy ending was already had. I needed a little TLC which Bridgette is the one. She sat with me for about 2 hours and we talked, her with that little hint of a Hungarian accent. The perfect cool down after the electricity of Asscon.

Danielle
05-18-2003, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by steinbuster
Correction on Ruby, I was at Infinity Wednesday night after Asscon to see Bridgette, and Ruby was there but has dyed her hair black. She said she's going to tyr it out for a month and maybe go back to blonde.

I went there to see Bridgette and get some normalcy back in my life, Asscon was as wild and crazy as I've ever seen it. Bridgette alone in the VIP room is as sensual as you can get without any "extras", and such a great personality, and legs that don't quit. It was a nice cool-down after the main event at Asscon.

Man, you can't fucking get enough, can you? (or rather you can't get enough fucking!) But seriously, don't you ever say to yourself, "Gee, I want to do anything non-sexual (or even non-commerically sexual) right now."

Visiting some chick at infinity is his idea of introducing "normalcy" into his life. I'm sorry, but LOL.

busted
05-18-2003, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by Danielle
Man, you can't fucking get enough, can you? (or rather you can't get enough fucking!) But seriously, don't you ever say to yourself, "Gee, I want to do anything non-sexual (or even non-commerically sexual) right now."

Visiting some chick at infinity is his idea of introducing "normalcy" into his life. I'm sorry, but LOL.

Okay here goes. I travel to Myrtle Beach several times a year, on one particular annual trip, I travel with three other guys, two of us go to the strip clubs, the other two visit dance clubs.

All four of us are married, I think I'm the most happily married. I adore my wife. I feel the two going to dance clubs are putting their marriages more at risk. Women in these clubs are more apt to require more attachment to a guy than I would while sitting with an entertainer. As I've said on previous posts, they do enjoy my company, as I do theirs, but it all starts with a wallet full of cash. In my case, for the most part, it starts in the club and then stays in the club.

Being a greying 50-plus man, I don't anticipate some 23 year old, with peircing, to get too emotionally attached; that doesn't mean we can enjoy each other's company.

The question I keep asking myself is, WHY? Why, when I feel this way about my wife (we are still very active, sexually) do I hobby, maybe its a middle-age crisis, maybe its a sexual addiction, maybe these are all excuses and I just enjoy it. I am hoping I out-grow this before it affects my marriage, although I think I will have one apology to make to my wife before I need to change, or maybe she'll understand (I doubt it).

As far as Bridgette and "normalcy", it was long periods of conversation and a short period of a lapdance, I know it sounds Clintonesque, but the LD was more mentally relaxing than sexually stimulating. Not to be crass, but a semi-woody was not achieved, that was not the purpose.

I know this all sounds a little strange (okay, more than just a little), but relationships between men and women are complex enough without even adding a sexual thing, and then add a commercial sex thing and it becomes as individualistic as a fingerprint.

Danielle
05-19-2003, 12:12 AM
I guess what I meant by my post is that while I don't think there's anything wrong with what you're doing for the most part, aren't there other things you like to do to bring "normalcy" to your life? I don't think of stripclubs as adding a "normal" element to anyone's life. Certainly not mine. Do you have any non-sexual interests that allow you to de-stress and unwind? My job often leaves me feeling so far out of touch with the "real world" (sorry about all the fucking quotation marks guys) that putting on my jammies and reading a book with my cat curled up in my lap feels like heaven.

Casper
05-19-2003, 06:14 AM
did someone say cat

Dondee
05-19-2003, 06:17 AM
She certainly did, Oly!

busted
05-19-2003, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Danielle
I guess what I meant by my post is that while I don't think there's anything wrong with what you're doing for the most part, aren't there other things you like to do to bring "normalcy" to your life? I don't think of stripclubs as adding a "normal" element to anyone's life. Certainly not mine. Do you have any non-sexual interests that allow you to de-stress and unwind? My job often leaves me feeling so far out of touch with the "real world" (sorry about all the fucking quotation marks guys) that putting on my jammies and reading a book with my cat curled up in my lap feels like heaven.

Sure I have my favorites, a movie, golf, but at 2am, its either a regular bar or a stripclub, and as I said, I feel I could get in more trouble in a regular bar (ps I don't drink). After being at Asscon Wednesday night, yes, a regular stripclub, like Infinity, with as attractive, well-spoken Bridgette, is probably as normal as I can get. If I go home, it will only be to go to bed with my wife, not totally bad, just she snores. (G-d help me if she ever read this, I'd probably be in more trouble than my hobbying.)

Oh, to be Danielle's cat for only an hour:)

Sorry had to go for the joke.

Danielle
05-19-2003, 08:56 PM
My cat is great is bed. (so warm, so soft!)

Steinbuster,
good to hear you have some outside interests.

Slinky Bender
05-19-2003, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by Danielle
great in bed. (so warm, so soft!)


That's your idea of "great in bed"?

busted
06-05-2003, 09:17 PM
Spent three terrific hours with Bridgette at Infinity tonight. What an incredible woman. Its a good thing she's 25 or my marriage would be in trouble (Like I'd ever have a chance). An incredible looking woman who's enjoyable to be with and even more enjoyable to look at. Long whispy blonde hair, green/grey eyes, 5'-8" and weighs maybe 120. Flat stomach, wide hips and an electrifiying smile. Cover of cosmopolitan-type, used to model in Hungary.

I did a 5-song LD which cost $, and spent almost 1/2 hour in heaven. Never did I have such an amazing LD that didn't include and extras.

I felt like I had a massage, very relaxing, which is a change from our typical hobbying exploits.

This is definitely not for everyone, but if your in the mood for some entertaining company, that won't empty your wallet (ordered 2 drinks the entire time together) and will leave you feeling soothed, this is the one.

I'll be back on Monday to see her again!

Danielle
06-06-2003, 12:46 AM
I heard that this club is now under new ownership and has hired some new hot chicks. I hope they got rid of the tired old fat homely looking ones. I'll have to go check it out soon and report back to ya all.

edouble
06-06-2003, 02:27 PM
i havent gone in about two weeks. i might check it out later on tonight with my brother. since the new guy took over things are a bit more proffesional, but anal at the same time.

the selection of girls is a bit better and not as raunchy. the downside is they are strict about the girls actions as well. the girls are not allowed to have to much contact on stage with each other, they do not close the doors on the VIP, the girls must get tickets for each drink they have, and submit them at the end of the night. although the place does look better it sounds more like the new guy (who looks like mr frley from threes company) is a pimp than a club owner.

the girls claim that he is becoming very friendly with the customers and many of the regulars. to them it seems like he is trying to learn the ropes and then let the club manager, teddy go.

busted
06-06-2003, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by Danielle
I heard that this club is now under new ownership and has hired some new hot chicks. I hope they got rid of the tired old fat homely looking ones. I'll have to go check it out soon and report back to ya all.

Danielle, you must be right, when I was there last night, I was very impressed with the number of rather attractive caucasion women. This has always been mostly a WOC club. Bridgette told me that on Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesday, their slow days, is mostly WOC, and the the women I saw there last night are also there on Fridays an Saturdays.

edouble, I saw the VIP door closed on several occasions. Supposedly it costs an additional $20 to close the door, on top of the $20 to use the room, for twenty minutes.

I'll be back on Monday, I'll report back then.

chase4u
06-06-2003, 06:56 PM
hey with all the changes is Ruby still working here or did she get let go?I think the new owner is trying but i think the regulars are going to come back or any new guys also, it is too far off the beaten track, the new girls are super i must say way better than the busetd girls they used to have here all the time. hey also is Patty still here, i didnt see her also when i visted.

lawyer101
06-07-2003, 07:04 AM
Originally posted by steinbuster
Danielle, you must be right, when I was there last night, I was very impressed with the number of rather attractive caucasion women. This has always been mostly a WOC club. Bridgette told me that on Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesday, their slow days, is mostly WOC, and the the women I saw there last night are also there on Fridays an Saturdays.

edouble, I saw the VIP door closed on several occasions. Supposedly it costs an additional $20 to close the door, on top of the $20 to use the room, for twenty minutes.

I'll be back on Monday, I'll report back then.

Have you had any dances with extras? What is the age range on the girls?

busted
06-07-2003, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by chase4u
hey with all the changes is Ruby still working here or did she get let go?I think the new owner is trying but i think the regulars are going to come back or any new guys also, it is too far off the beaten track, the new girls are super i must say way better than the busetd girls they used to have here all the time. hey also is Patty still here, i didnt see her also when i visted.

Ruby still there and looks as bubbly as ever, although without the blonde locks.

busted
06-07-2003, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by lawyer101
Have you had any dances with extras? What is the age range on the girls?

Not sure of any extras with the new staff. I'll be there on Monday, but will spend most of (all of) my time with Bridgette. With her I forget about the extras, she's that special. I will ask her and see if she knows anything, although sometimes facts are greatly exagerated. Thought my friend would come along, but its his wife's birthday that night, there's a thought for a new thread, hobbying on your wife's birthday. I'm sure BMM has tried it! LOL

Range of age 23 to 35 years old, mostly 28ish

edouble
06-07-2003, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by steinbuster
edouble, I saw the VIP door closed on several occasions. Supposedly it costs an additional $20 to close the door, on top of the $20 to use the room, for twenty minutes.

correction to vip cost 40 for the house and 100 for the girl for a 20 minute session. the girls who get the door closed are mostly the chicks who doing extras. there are a few girls here that are, lets say under a different management. these girls get to have the door closed because their boss is paying the club off, in exchange for privacy.

when you go back their on monday feel free to ask either bridgette or ruby about this topic.

chase4u
06-08-2003, 04:26 PM
i am going on tuesday and i want to take Ruby in CR this time, i know she gives hjs and you can uses your fingers on her but has anyone gone all the way with her yet? Should i stick with my fav Angel or try the Rubster?

busted
06-10-2003, 06:46 AM
Originally posted by chase4u
i am going on tuesday and i want to take Ruby in CR this time, i know she gives hjs and you can uses your fingers on her but has anyone gone all the way with her yet? Should i stick with my fav Angel or try the Rubster?

Was there last nite and edouble, your right, $40 now, whether door is closed or not.

Chase4u, can't say about FS from Ruby, but I don't believe Angel has been there for awhile, maybe 6 months, since her breast enhancements.

I must say, if your not into extras, check out Bridgette, wow, spent four hours with her last night and even she was surprised as to how quickly time flew. I was again sursprised as to the quality of women in comparison as to what it used to be. This may turn out to be a great place to hang out. I found my choice, it beats driving to NJ, to VIP in Linden, or GoGoRama in Laurence Harbor.

Good Luck Chase4u and looking forward to your report.

busted
06-12-2003, 04:03 AM
Changed my schedule a bit last night and instead of staying at Asscon, I cut my visit very short and went to see Bridgette at Infinity, again. I haven't enjoyed myself with one woman, and no extras, since Destiny of Myrtle Beach and Suzy at Penny Whistle, and for those that remember Penny Whistle, I had to enforce my own rules (my good catholic years). Destiny was one week a year, no big deal but Suzy was here in Queens, both occuring in the 1996-1999 era.

This may become similar to the BMM thread of how long can I go without, BMM hobbying altogether and me, seeing Bridgette; or maybe a new thread on when does an ATF become your only entertainer, even though extras are not provided.

I've haven't started a new thread yet here on UG, maybe its time.

Chase4u, still looking for your report on tuesday. I did meet a new girl called Angel, but she just started on Tuesday.

justlooking
06-12-2003, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by steinbuster
This may become similar to the BMM thread of how long can I go without, BMM hobbying altogether and me, seeing Bridgette; or maybe a new thread on when does an ATF become your only entertainer, even though extras are not provided.

FWIW, this strikes me as pretty dangerous.

chase4u
06-12-2003, 12:14 PM
I was there on tuesday night and i took Ruby into the CR for some full service she was all for it, but i was not feeling the vibe of the place with the new owner. I had a feeling of being watched so i passed on going all the way with her, just got a hj and sucked on her little perky tits, she is very open and i wished i felt more at ease but i didnt, has anyone else felt this way with the new owner like he may have set up cams in the CR? I dont think he doing it to bust the guys but to tax the girls who do allow extras if anyone thinks so respond.

busted
06-13-2003, 06:09 PM
Chase4u, I will find out about any cameras, although never really thought of it and glad you had a good time with Ruby. She is alot of fun.

My friend did not a good night with Tara, friendly enough, but no extras in the LD room. She wanted DFK, but he's not into that. I had another great night with Bridgette. Such long legs, a great smile etc., etc., etc. Looking forward to seeing her next week.

bruinkav
06-19-2003, 06:48 PM
just came back from infinity...not a bad place to hang out, have a beer with some friends, look at some topless girls.

being thursday night, i figured the talent would be alright. there were a couple of decent looking girls...mostly 6's and 7's with a couple pigs thrown in for variety. no cover is great. ample well-lighted parking in front of the place. $5 beers were fine, no hassles at all. the metal detector was weird (i'm from california), but i appreciated the bouncer not allowing hats, (probably cuts down on the previously mentioned thug element).

good mixture of latinas, white girls, and WOC.

the crowd was decent and the music was fine.

got a couple of lap dances from eileen in the regular "vip lounge" nothing to write home about...she has a great ass and slender body but not a good face. but decent attitude and ok grinding. but when asked what happened in the champagne room, she just said it was great and we were both naked. didn't feel like blowing 140 bucks on a maybe.

all in all....eh, not bad, would probably go again.

chase4u
06-20-2003, 05:36 PM
I was there last night and i have to say it has gotten better, lots of new girls and most were at least 7s, Ruby was outstanding as always, i think this club is turning the corner, it maybe a mixture of upscale and underground because of it out of the way location which is a blessing. I also checked out Sin City and i have to say it a very nice looking club, very nice decor, now the bad news, the girls are rejects from every club all over the place, with all the money spent on the decor they should saved some on hiring better looking girls, a club this nice deserves better girls, also the dances are subpar, they need to work on that also. overall this spot has a chance if they get rid of 95% of the girls currently working now.

busted
06-20-2003, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by justlooking
FWIW, this strikes me as pretty dangerous.

Spent Wed and Thurs this week with Bridget (her spelling) and felt great after each night, partly because I don't need to suffer any guilt associated with extras, or concerned regarding health issues. If I was 35ish in age, I would be very worried regarding my marriage. Being 50ish, I think, I repeat, I think I'm safe. I've suffered this before in Myrtle Beach, infatuation. for example, I've done the parenting thing and can do without it again. Getting emotional attached to a woman 25 years younger, has absolutely no chance of succeeding beyond a very good friendship. Bridget is a wonderful, and very attractive girl that I plan on spending many hours with, but I can't let it become anything more, simply because of the age difference (just found out her father is 11 days younger than me). Of course the fact that I love my wife is important, but I wouldn't guarantee anything if I was 20 years younger; then again, my wife was a knockout 25 years ago, and has age gracefully (actually looks 15 years younger) and I didn't need to venture outside the marriage many years ago.

With those considerations, I think(?) I'm safe!

Ter164
06-22-2003, 12:59 PM
I ve been to Infinity a few times and had dances with the girl, that Bruinkav, talked about Eileen, her dances are very good but wouldnt expect anymore then what you got in the lapdance. I never posted a review, on it, but like he said, its a good time none the less and havent been able to meet any of the other girls that are spoken of here, its a little to inconvient of a location to get to if your not in the area for some reason....

justlooking
06-22-2003, 01:16 PM
1. I think it's dangerous to be paying people (just) to be friends with you.

2. I think that without any sex in the equation, all you have is emotional involvement. So despite all your protestations that you love your wife, etc., it still sounds REALLY dangerous to me.

3. Because (combining the above two paragraphs) it seems inevitable to me that the person you're paying (just) to be friends with you doesn't feel the same way about you as you do about her (otherwise, you wouldn't have to pay her). I can't see how a situation like that can't end up any way other than painfully for you. (And I don't think you can say, "It's worth the pain." Because it isn't real.)

h. von bingen
06-22-2003, 01:21 PM
this merits that stripperweb hyperlink.

justlooking
06-22-2003, 01:22 PM
To be fair to steinbuster, I don't think this girl is playing him like that.

h. von bingen
06-22-2003, 01:43 PM
so young so naieve. (both of you.)

justlooking
06-22-2003, 01:53 PM
How about if I change "like that" to "to that extent"?

h. von bingen
06-22-2003, 02:01 PM
time time time is on her side (yes it is).

justlooking
06-22-2003, 02:08 PM
Let's ask steinbuster if anything like that's ever happened to him in his years of having these monogamous nonsexual "relationships" with strippers.

(You don't ever take those out of the club, do you?)

busted
06-22-2003, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by justlooking
1. I think it's dangerous to be paying people (just) to be friends with you.

2. I think that without any sex in the equation, all you have is emotional involvement. So despite all your protestations that you love your wife, etc., it still sounds REALLY dangerous to me.

3. Because (combining the above two paragraphs) it seems inevitable to me that the person you're paying (just) to be friends with you doesn't feel the same way about you as you do about her (otherwise, you wouldn't have to pay her). I can't see how a situation like that can't end up any way other than painfully for you. (And I don't think you can say, "It's worth the pain." Because it isn't real.)

JL - very well written, completely understood, and I couldn't agree with you more - the only thing that saves "my pain" a little is that I realize that this is all fantasyland and I'm only glad that I can afford to see her several times a week (not that I can ever approach BMM habit).

HVB - Sorry to disappoint but being 50ish, "so young, so naive" isn't quite right. The one thing I have learned in my hobbying efforts is that enfatuation is a very strong feeling that one must deal with in realistic terms. I'm a greying individual that's a week older than her father, she's a long-legged, attractive blond, that's 25 year old - enough said

I guess for now I'll just remained thrilled that when I walk into Infinity, I can bring a smile to that beautiful face, and I think we all can tell what's financial joy and what's respectful joy. If I bring her both, I've won - for the time being at least.

Thanks fellas for your insightfulness and your concern. I glad to be a member with all you UGers.

h. von bingen
06-22-2003, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by steinbuster


HVB - Sorry to disappoint but being 50ish, "so young, so naive" isn't quite right.
dear mr. buster:

i'm not trying to be rude, but please look up irony in the dictionary.

thanks,
hvb, so young so naieve

BigMadM
06-22-2003, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by steinbuster
I can afford to see her several times a week (not that I can ever approach BMM habit).



Remember the movie The Titanic?
As the 3 musicians decided to keep playing even though their feet were getting wet. Thats me. Ive missed all the rescue boats, and my fate is inevitable.

justlooking
06-22-2003, 04:47 PM
But at least you're getting laid.

lawyer101
06-22-2003, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by BigMadM
Remember the movie The Titanic?
As the 3 musicians decided to keep playing even though their feet were getting wet. Thats me. Ive missed all the rescue boats, and my fate is inevitable.

Thats an interesting way to put it...:)

h. von bingen
06-22-2003, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by BigMadM
Remember the movie The Titanic?
As the 3 musicians decided to keep playing even though their feet were getting wet. Thats me. Ive missed all the rescue boats, and my fate is inevitable.
poor bmm he is lensky.

busted
06-22-2003, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by justlooking
But at least you're getting laid.


If it were just getting laid, I'd go to Asscon or A****dote and spend less than $, to get laid, but we all look for different things from are hobbying funds.

I've probably spent the same amount last week, that's 3 visits, than BMM spent at one session, but I'm sure he felt he received his money's worth, as I felt I did (sorry to keep bringing you up BMM, but you're the measuring stick to which we all compare ourselves; and if its strickly a measuring stick, then BF comes to mind)

We can all tell, for the most part, when we are being played for funds, when the lapdance, comes up just short so that she can get another dance, etc. I know - so young, so naive!

busted
06-22-2003, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by justlooking
Let's ask steinbuster if anything like that's ever happened to him in his years of having these monogamous nonsexual "relationships" with strippers.

(You don't ever take those out of the club, do you?)

I refer to my previous experiences - monogamous, nonsexual relationships with strippers - as "my good catholic years". Since then, its been a series of commercial sex encounters. I felt comfortable with that. I guess I let the provider set the stage, if its more they feel ok with, then its ok with me; if not then she's got to be something special. Maybe that's where I'm at.

God, I'm starting to sound more and more like Danielle. Maybe we'd make a good match ;)

billyS
06-23-2003, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by steinbuster
With those considerations, I think(?) I'm safe!
I had a friend who when he was in his mid-thirties who had this same type of relationship with a stripper. She worked at these three clubs owned by the same people and he would follow her around, (she would give him his schedule) and he would sit at the bar and feed her singles for hours. When she was done with her stage dance she would sit by him and he would buy her drinks and she would tell him, all her problems. He was married. I could never understand it. I went with him a few times at lunch to the Rainbow Cafe on 107 to see her. I just never figured why he did it. He said 'I like her'.

busted
06-23-2003, 03:16 AM
Originally posted by billyS
I had a friend who when he was in his mid-thirties who had this same type of relationship with a stripper. She worked at these three clubs owned by the same people and he would follow her around, (she would give him his schedule) and he would sit at the bar and feed her singles for hours. When she was done with her stage dance she would sit by him and he would buy her drinks and she would tell him, all her problems. He was married. I could never understand it. I went with him a few times at lunch to the Rainbow Cafe on 107 to see her. I just never figured why he did it. He said 'I like her'.

When I was in my midthirties, I never ventured out to stripclubs or fasthouses at all. I felt I didn't need it. As I said earlier, if I were 35ish, I believe I'd be in trouble (or maybe I'd would be smart enough to realize trouble before it got too deep) but being 50 and maybe a little smarter, my course of action and feelings are different.

billyS, were you ever able to figure your friends situation (or problem) out? Did it ever make any sense to you? I'm really curious.

justlooking
06-23-2003, 06:32 AM
Originally posted by steinbuster
God, I'm starting to sound more and more like Danielle. Maybe we'd make a good match ;)

Maybe Danielle would consider you a good match, but maybe not for the reason you hope.

justlooking
06-23-2003, 06:56 AM
Again, please don't take this the wrong way, steinbuster, but strippers at their clubs are at work. They're not looking for friends. If they consider someone they met as a customer a friend, they'll hang out with him for free when they're not working. Other than that, what they have is a good, congenial customer, one they don't mind spending time with. There's no shame in that, and it can be rather enjoyable for the customer. But when you talk about "bringing joy" to a stripper, it sounds a little scary. Because it sounds like you're losing perspective on your relationship with the stripper.

justlooking
06-23-2003, 06:59 AM
I would even think a stripper like Danielle might view customers who think they're her "friend" with some apprehension. Because guys like that are going to expect her to spend a lot of time with them when they see her in her club, but, being "friends", they might not feel they have to compensate her much for her time. Which puts the stripper in an awkward position, since she's there to make money.

OTOH, if the customer is compensating the stripper for her time, but not getting any services in return, then that's something that I'd consider pathetic. Because he's buying a friend. If the stripper really were your friend, you wouldn't have to pay to go and see her in her club.

justlooking
06-23-2003, 07:15 AM
(And yes, to be honest, I'm guilty of the kind of conduct I describe in the first paragraph of the preceding post.)

billyS
06-23-2003, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by steinbuster
billyS, were you ever able to figure your friends situation (or problem) out? Did it ever make any sense to you? I'm really curious.
No, basically he just found another hobby eventually. She had gotten married and then when she got pregnant she stopped stripping and he lost touch with her. He was lonely I guess, his wife seemed aloof, ( I met her a few times). It never made sense to me for him to follow her around club to club just so he could tip her and talk to her. This was also before the days of lap dances so there was no contact what so ever.

Originally posted by justlooking
OTOH, if the customer is compensating the stripper for her time, but not getting any services in return, then that's something that I'd consider pathetic.
Ditto

busted
06-23-2003, 06:27 PM
Well after all this bantering back and forth, I really appreciate all your ideas and comments - well, it comes down to this. I truly believe she enjoys my company and I assist her in making a living, and if the bottom line is we are both having fun then its worth it.

If you want to enjoy life, you have to take chances of getting your feelings hurt, and if I was concerned about being a chump, I probably would've given up on my "previous girlfriend/now my wife" along time ago, but my determination of moving my relationship with her, from friendship to courting to marriage paid off in the long run.

To all you guys and HvB, whoever you are, thanks again and happy hobbying.

justlooking
06-23-2003, 06:29 PM
Not to pester you about this, but if you're paying why do you care whether she "truly enjoys" your company? What exactly would you say you're paying her for?

lawyer101
06-23-2003, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by justlooking
Not to pester you about this, but if you're paying why do you care whether she "truly enjoys" your company? What exactly would you say you're paying her for?

JL,
Let’s give Steinbuster a "break" here. He enjoys spending time with a stripper and doesn't want or expect extras. This is most likely why the stripper "truly enjoys" his company. Let’s face facts, most guys that put a lot of money into a stripper are doing it for one reason and one reason only. Steinbuster is spending money on the stripper because he enjoys her company and she enjoys his company. I don't see anything wrong with that. I do understand that this can end up costing him a lot of money, but as long as he is enjoying himself that is all that matters. You may think he is wasting his money or that he is "pathetic", but what it comes down to is if he is enjoying himself and if he feels that he is getting his "money's worth. The answer is that it appears that he does.

justlooking
06-23-2003, 06:57 PM
Don't say I didn't warn him when the Crash And Burn occurs.

(He really would be a good match for Danielle. She could buy two new houses off him.)

busted
06-23-2003, 07:08 PM
L101, thanks for your comments and JL, I'll let you be the first to tell me "I warned you". Hell, we all guys, we've crashed and burned more than once in our lives. As long as we're smiling as we are going down.

justlooking
06-23-2003, 07:09 PM
Thanks for that. Really.

sod
06-24-2003, 05:13 AM
Originally posted by steinbuster
L101, thanks for your comments and JL, I'll let you be the first to tell me "I warned you". Hell, we all guys, we've crashed and burned more than once in our lives. As long as we're smiling as we are going down.

You should really try to bang her, though.

chase4u
06-24-2003, 06:05 AM
Well this a very deep and rewarding discussion, but i have been in that same position b4, i have been played and i will be played again but i will try and avoid it the next time, i have seen girls who refused to take me my money and i have had them, i have been with girls who gave me every story in the book and i have fallen for some of them, the point of this that you can never tell when you will fall for a stripper, after all they are hot most of the time and they do have an appeal to them, I am in my early 30s and can pass for 25 so the girls think i can relate to them better and i also have game, but if you are older and or dont have money or looks that appeal to strippers, you can get played big time, Stein is just being friendly with Bridget, in his heart i feel he knows it will only be at this level and wont go past lapdances. I mean this is why most guys go to the clubs because they think they will be the "1" who gets the girl, well most of time, that happens with money, sometimes not.

justlooking
06-24-2003, 06:56 AM
In a private room with a brand-new stripper (renegade boho Leon-Trotsky-looking-boyfried [if she's straight] variety). Her second day on the job. She only just learned, to her surprise, that The Rules aren't always The Rules.

"If I didn't like you, I wouldn't have my hand inside your pants."

h. von bingen
06-24-2003, 07:07 AM
Originally posted by steinbuster
Well after all this bantering back and forth, I really appreciate all your ideas and comments - well, it comes down to this. I truly believe she enjoys my company and I assist her in making a living, and if the bottom line is we are both having fun then its worth it.

If you want to enjoy life, you have to take chances of getting your feelings hurt, and if I was concerned about being a chump, I probably would've given up on my "previous girlfriend/now my wife" along time ago, but my determination of moving my relationship with her, from friendship to courting to marriage paid off in the long run.

To all you guys and HvB, whoever you are, thanks again and happy hobbying.
just to let you know, i think it's fine that you are friendly with young women and help them out economically. i think it's a kind of income redistribution that is good for both parties (as long as one is not defrauding the other). i would be much worse off if some "avunculars" hadn't taken an interest in me. nb: the value of their wisdom has payed off more and longer than the value of any cash they gave me.

sod
06-24-2003, 07:08 AM
jl: Was that your line or the stripper's?

justlooking
06-24-2003, 07:08 AM
Stripper's.

h. von bingen
06-24-2003, 07:09 AM
Originally posted by justlooking
Not to pester you about this, but if you're paying why do you care whether she "truly enjoys" your company? What exactly would you say you're paying her for?
i think he's helping her. no scary quotes.

justlooking
06-24-2003, 07:11 AM
I don't want to belabor this any more than I already have, but it seems to me to make a material difference that your "avunculars" took an interest in you in a non-exploitative (I'm talking woman-to-man exploitation here) non-commercial setting.

Unless I'm wrong, of course.

(If anybody wants to explain to me why I think it makes a difference, I'd be grateful.)

(By this parenthetical, I relieve Wwanderer of the obligation of posting that he doesn't think it makes any difference at all.)

Bill Furniture
06-24-2003, 07:11 AM
Originally posted by sod
You should really try to bang her, though.

Ditto

sod
06-24-2003, 07:12 AM
Normally that would be obvious, but this thread has gone in a certain direction . . .

I befriended a stripper once. Minimal sex, high overhead. It was a no-win for me. Liked to look at herself in the mirror when we did it. Is this a common trait among such ladies? From then on I opted for meetings of the hourly-increment kind.

Bill Furniture
06-24-2003, 07:13 AM
Originally posted by sod
Liked to look at herself in the mirror when we did it. Is this a common trait among such ladies?

I do that too.

justlooking
06-24-2003, 07:16 AM
Originally posted by sod
Is this a common trait among such ladies?

Of course one can't generalize, but

Yes.

(Another reason why so many of them affirmatively prefer The Liberty to normal hotels.)

h. von bingen
06-24-2003, 07:16 AM
Originally posted by justlooking
I don't want to belabor this any more than I already have, but it seems to me to make a material difference that your "avunculars" took an interest in you in a non-exploitative (I'm talking woman-to-man exploitation here) non-commercial setting.

Unless I'm wrong, of course.

(If anybody wants to explain to me why I think it makes a difference, I'd be grateful.)

(By this parenthetical, I relieve Wwanderer of the obligation of posting that he doesn't think it makes any difference at all.)

i think a strip club is probably a bad place to begin such a relationship, but in theory, it is possible. i'm not so sure the setting is that meaningful. i think that there would have been people who saw my relationships and thought advantage was being taken one way or other.

all that really matters is that both parties are on the same page. after all, wouldn't you agree both parties are free to contract in any way they wish?

sod
06-24-2003, 07:24 AM
Unless there's undue influence or fraud . . .

justlooking
06-24-2003, 07:26 AM
The problem is that in the strip-club setting you can't be sure that both parties are on the same page.

I keep thinking back to Danielle's wishing there were more men who would come to her club to see her every week, pay her lots of money for her company, and not develop problems about getting extras or becoming involved in her personal life.

I'm not trying to make Danielle out to be evil or anything. I understand why, for her, that would be an ideal commercial set-up, and I don't criticize her for wanting it. I just keep thinking that there's bound to be some lack of symmetry in these "relationships".

h. von bingen
06-24-2003, 07:40 AM
Originally posted by justlooking
1. The problem is that in the strip-club setting you can't be sure that both parties are on the same page.

2. I keep thinking back to Danielle's wishing there were more men who would come to her club to see her every week, pay her lots of money for her company, and not develop problems about getting extras or becoming involved in her personal life.


1. yes.
2. for me the thing which creates parity is either a) sex or b) becoming involved in one's private life. there has got to be a this for that. so for the money the girl has got to give something up.

Casper
06-24-2003, 07:47 AM
Originally posted by justlooking
In a private room with a brand-new stripper (renegade boho Leon-Trotsky-looking-boyfried [if she's straight] variety). Her second day on the job. She only just learned, to her surprise, that The Rules aren't always The Rules.

"If I didn't like you, I wouldn't have my hand inside your pants."

JL I had no idea you look like Hamilton or at least Grant.

justlooking
06-24-2003, 07:51 AM
Conceivable, depending on which Hamilton and which Grant.

justlooking
06-24-2003, 07:51 AM
Actually, now that I think about it, Hamilton and Grant had a lot to do with it.

justlooking
06-24-2003, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by h. von bingen
for me the thing which creates parity is either a) sex or b) becoming involved in one's private life. there has got to be a this for that. so for the money the girl has got to give something up.

The thing about this "getting involved in their private lives" thing is that I think there's a lot of either (or both of) bad faith or self-delusion involved. Funny how these people whose personal lives these guys are so interested in getting involved in (while disclaiming any interest in sex, of course) are strikingly attractive women who take their clothes off for them. I can't believe this isn't a sublimation for wanting to have sex with them.

justlooking
06-24-2003, 08:00 AM
(Also, just out of curiosity, what do you mean by "becoming involved in one's private life"? If what you mean in this context includes nothing more than discussing the stripper's private life and personal problems when seeing her in her club, but never seeing her outside, my point about the lack of parity still stands.)

hot4chicks
06-24-2003, 08:06 AM
I've never understood the part about getting involved in a strippers personal drama. Its like being asked to walk across a minefield for someone else.

justlooking
06-24-2003, 08:08 AM
It's fun.

h. von bingen
06-24-2003, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by justlooking
(Also, just out of curiosity, what do you mean by "becoming involved in one's private life"? If what you mean in this context includes nothing more than discussing the stripper's private life and personal problems when seeing her in her club, but never seeing her outside, my point about the lack of parity still stands.)
i meant, as my mentors did, taking an interest in the welfare of each other.

h. von bingen
06-24-2003, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by justlooking
It's fun.
i have this voyeuristic quality too. but sometimes i'm afraid that my interest in people who are not genuine friends is merely a substitute for nothing on tv.

justlooking
06-24-2003, 08:24 AM
Originally posted by h. von bingen
i meant, as my mentors did, taking an interest in the welfare of each other.

Then see my post about bad faith and sublimation.

h. von bingen
06-24-2003, 08:26 AM
Originally posted by justlooking
Then see my post about bad faith and sublimation.
i did. i think it's correct. i think there are very few male-female nonsexual relationships that do not involve some degree of sublimation.

sod
06-24-2003, 08:27 AM
I think it might have something to do with not just wanting to have sex with a stripper, but cultivating a sort of relationship where, when it finally happens, it's like real honest-to-goodness-both-parties-are-completely-emotionally-invested-in-the-experience sex.

This is a pipe dream and it should be abandoned pronto, unless she asks you out on a date that doesn't involve a shopping mall.

justlooking
06-24-2003, 08:32 AM
I agree with you. Which is why all my posts to steinbuster have been so negative.

Again I hope he takes this is the friendly spirit it's meant, but I really think he's being dishonest (with himself) about what he wants.

Slinky Bender
06-24-2003, 08:39 AM
About 15 years ago I had a conversation with a girl who had just had "a breakthrough" with her therapist: she had discovered that the reason she liked to watch herself in the miror while having sex was that when she was being abused by her uncle at the age of 14, she would go "out of body" and watch the two of them from the corner of the room, and watching herself in the miror was to some extent reliving that experience.

Did you hear those footsteps? Shit, she's back.... gotta go.

bobo529
06-24-2003, 09:22 AM
I think Steinbuster should just bang her and move on.

justlooking
06-25-2003, 07:18 AM
Just in case this hasn't been belabored enough, I think I figured out why I think it makes a difference whether the so-called "avuncular" interactions take place entirely in a strip club.

Strip clubs are places where guys pay women to be with them. The content of what goes on between them may differ. But the nature of what it is -- a commercial transaction -- remains the same. As long as it stays in the club, a commercial transaction is probably all the stripper is viewing it as.

This is fine. But it becomes a problem when the customer begins to perceive it as more. Or it can become a problem, anyway. Because of the lack of parity we've been discussing. And because it's usually bad to be deluded.

Let me ask hvb this question. Say a guy hired a prostitute for a three-hour session every week. He pays her hourly rate for it. But instead of having sex, all we wants to (and all they ever do) is talk about her personal life. He gives her advice. It may even be good advice. She may even follow it. But she wouldn't spend time with him if he weren't buying sessions from him. And to her, these sessions are still just sessions, even if what the john likes to do during them is fairly unusual.

Would hvb consider that in any way equivalent to the "avuncular" relationships she described herself as having had?

Danielle
07-06-2003, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by justlooking
Of course one can't generalize, but

Yes.

(Another reason why so many of them affirmatively prefer The Liberty to normal hotels.)

If they're strippers, then of course. We're only surrounded by the damn things all the time and almost forced into being at least a little narcisistic.

Danielle
07-06-2003, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by justlooking
Not to pester you about this, but if you're paying why do you care whether she "truly enjoys" your company? What exactly would you say you're paying her for?

I don't think the fact that you're paying someone for their time means that you shouldn't have to care whether or not they're having a good time. (or at least not having a horrible time) I could make all sorts of anologies here using different service industry examples. but basically I think that while you certainly don't have a responsibility to make sure they're having fun (as you said, you are the one paying for a service) I think it boils down to common curteousy. Unless the service you're paying for is the opportunity to treat someone like crap and have them kiss your ass. (Maybe that's exactly what you're refering to, but I doubt it. I don't think most strip club patrons are looking for that.)

jabojones3
07-07-2003, 05:43 AM
I have to agree with the last post. I always try to treat the women that I engage in sexual congress with the utmost respect. You would be surprised at the positive response you can get if you are really nice to people. Now it can be argued that you are paying for it one way or the other. So why not make it as pleasurable for both people as is humanly possible.

This technique has worked for me 9 times out of 10. It really is effective.

BTW can you get VIP in Infinity?

Peace:
WSJ3

justlooking
07-07-2003, 07:12 AM
Originally posted by Danielle
I don't think the fact that you're paying someone for their time means that you shouldn't have to care whether or not they're having a good time. (or at least not having a horrible time) I could make all sorts of anologies here using different service industry examples. but basically I think that while you certainly don't have a responsibility to make sure they're having fun (as you said, you are the one paying for a service) I think it boils down to common curteousy. Unless the service you're paying for is the opportunity to treat someone like crap and have them kiss your ass. (Maybe that's exactly what you're refering to, but I doubt it. I don't think most strip club patrons are looking for that.)

I think you're slightly misconstruing what I'm saying.

I don't think steinbuster is being courteous toward the stripper when he talks about how much she "truly enjoys" his company. I think he's seeking self-validation (and a feeling it isn't just commercial): "she really likes me!"

My point is that it's dangerous to think like that about someone who only sees you when you're paying her.

justlooking
07-07-2003, 07:20 AM
To be clear, I wasn't saying people should be rude or cold to strippers or other sex workers. Of course I don't think that and I certainly don't act that way. It's more fun for everybody if the customer is friendly and personable.

But I'd be curious to hear what Danielle's "all sorts of examples" from "different service industries" would be. Because I'll bet each one is one where the customer would look a bit silly if he or she talked about how much the service provider "truly enjoyed" his her company afterward. So clearly something else is going on here.

justlooking
07-07-2003, 07:41 AM
To say it once more, if I thought steinbuster cared about whether the stripper "truly enjoyed" his company for her sake (which is the way Danielle seems to be taking it), then of course I'd applaud him for his courtesy.

But he seems to care about that for his sake. And that's what I think is dangerous.

(Remember, the question that started this all off was steinbuster asking what people thought of his stopping seeing all strippers except one who he'd then see exclusively, mainly for her [compensated in-club] company because she wasn't hanging out with him for free or providing any extras.)

Danielle
07-07-2003, 10:58 AM
Well, having cleared that up, I have to agree with you. If he's only seeking to validate his behavior by telling himself that she's enjoying the time they spend together then it is a problem.

justlooking
07-07-2003, 11:00 AM
You still have to say it twice more or else I won't understand it.

busted
07-07-2003, 12:57 PM
I knew you could get this up and running again.

If I felt that the only reason she sat with me was to wait it out for the next lap dance or VIP, then I wouldn't be there. I truly believe she enjoys my company (JL, I know how that sounds). If I were a novice at these clubs, I would agree with you, but I've been told countless times, "I love you, can you buy me a drink?" or "What a nice smile, how 'bout a dollar?" and from very attractive entertainers, with nary a twitch from my wallet.

There's a certain combination that occurs to create the atmosphere I'm describing here. It doesn't have to be from an attractive girl, but somebody who catches your attention by saying the right thing or a certain look and in a non-wallet threating way. JL, I'm sure you've been around long enough to pick out the goldigger, and even the ones that pretend not to be.

Maybe this will go to the next stage of meeting outside the club, maybe not, but for the time being I'm enjoying the ride and am happy that I can get her to feel the same way. If it works out, great, if not, nothing ventured - nothing gained, it'll have been a wonderful ride.

busted
07-07-2003, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by justlooking
You still have to say it twice more or else I won't understand it.

I knew you could get this up and running again.

If I felt that the only reason she sat with me was to wait it out for the next lap dance or VIP, then I wouldn't be there. I truly believe she enjoys my company (JL, I know how that sounds). If I were a novice at these clubs, I would agree with you, but I've been told countless times, "I love you, can you buy me a drink?" or "What a nice smile, how 'bout a dollar?" and from very attractive entertainers, with nary a twitch from my wallet.

There's a certain combination that occurs to create the atmosphere I'm describing here. It doesn't have to be from an attractive girl, but somebody who catches your attention by saying the right thing or a certain look and in a non-wallet threating way. JL, I'm sure you've been around long enough to pick out the goldigger, and even the ones that pretend not to be.

Maybe this will go to the next stage of meeting outside the club, maybe not, but for the time being I'm enjoying the ride and am happy that I can get her to feel the same way. If it works out, great, if not, nothing ventured - nothing gained, it'll have been a wonderful ride.

busted
07-07-2003, 01:07 PM
Just had to do that!?!

justlooking
07-07-2003, 01:08 PM
(All usual stipulations about friendly intent etc. still in effect.)

I'm not saying she's "just" a golddigger, steinbuster. I'm not suggesting she's "only" after your money. I'm sure she genuinely likes you on some level, just as most strippers genuinely like their regulars on some level. But the key words there are "on some level". She still sees your relationship as commercial (and I think that you don't). If she were really your friend, you wouldn't have to go somewhere where you have to pay her to spend the time you so enjoy with her.

And that's where the rub comes in. Speaking only for myself, I pay young women for sex because that's something I either can't get from people like them for free, or can't get for free without the kind of entanglements I couldn't tolerate in my life. But I can get people to be friends with me for free (as I'm sure you can). So I view paying for that as just silly.

To engage in the kind of psychoanalyzing of other posters that has recently been proscribed here, I would guess (based on my own history of doing the same thing -- see my "Pervert's Progress" posts) that you're lying to yourself about what you really want from this woman. Because if it were really just her friendship, I can't believe it would ever occur to you to pay for it.

justlooking
07-07-2003, 01:15 PM
Remember, what we're talking about here is your apparently seeing this woman several times a week.

What I guess is funny is that what you're doing seems more to me like cheating than if you were occassionally sleeping with someone.

busted
07-07-2003, 01:45 PM
Without a doubt, on earlier posts I describe my trips to Myrtle Beach and the fact that I go to strip clubs rather than dance clubs to avoid the possibility of "entanglements"; but alas, or hurray, this complication has arisen. As I said, may last, may not, can only ride it out and see what happens. There is no doubt in my mind that this is cheating, as bad as sexual encounters, but more guilt-free, maybe.

JL, I only take your comments with friendly intent. I cannot dispute your statements other than to say, time will tell. Will tell what, not sure, that's what make life a journey.

Danielle
07-07-2003, 03:49 PM
Steinbuster-
I wouldn't stress too much over the situation. You don't seem to be too overly deluded, and seem to understand the situation and all of its implications well enough to avoid getting too emotionally attached to this girl. As long as the situation continues to be working out well for the both of you and you stay ahead of the game, then I can't really see any problem with it.

Now to attend to that pitcher of Sangria......

busted
07-07-2003, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by Danielle
Steinbuster-
I wouldn't stress too much over the situation. You don't seem to be too overly deluded, and seem to understand the situation and all of its implications well enough to avoid getting too emotionally attached to this girl. As long as the situation continues to be working out well for the both of you and you stay ahead of the game, then I can't really see any problem with it.

Now to attend to that pitcher of Sangria......

If so, please share!!

Thanks, I don't stress, I think I understand and I will.

This was a question asked earlier in this thread, do you have any friends that are customers, or customers that are friends? I'd be curious as to your perspective (from the entertainer standpoint).

lawyer101
07-07-2003, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by justlooking
But I can get people to be friends with me for free (as I'm sure you can). So I view paying for that as just silly.


JL,
I've heard that you pay people to be your friends...:)

salomon
07-26-2003, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by dvsNYC
But anyway, I went back the other night and saw Patricia. WOW!!!
So petite and extremely cute. Worth the time and money spent in the private room!!

I know it's been a while but can you elaborate on this please. I met her on my way out last week. Anyone with info on this hottie? I guess she's been around but I never met her before.

chase4u
07-28-2003, 06:24 AM
I was here on thursday night and the club was great, lots of new hotter looking talent with some of the old favs still there. I had a nice lapdance with Tasty, a very hot latina with a petite body, she is smoking, the new owner has really stepped it up and gotten way better girls than before with the service staying the same as before if not better.BTW has anyone seen Patty or Jordan imo the 2 hottest girls they ever had working here, anyone know if they quit or moved on to other clubs?

chase4u
07-30-2003, 08:45 PM
ahh has anyone seen these 2 girls, i was there on monday night and whoa this place was dead, i was tempted to have the russian thug wannabe extascy for a CR dance but she just was too hoody for me. I took the blond from florida for a vip dance which was excellent, i would have done CR with her but i didnt think she provide any extras, so i took a pass, anyway has anyone seen Patty or Jordan, do they still dance here or have moved on to greener pastures?

edouble
07-30-2003, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by chase4u
ahh has anyone seen these 2 girls, i was there on monday night and whoa this place was dead, i was tempted to have the russian thug wannabe extascy for a CR dance but she just was too hoody for me. I took the blond from florida for a vip dance which was excellent, i would have done CR with her but i didnt think she provide any extras, so i took a pass, anyway has anyone seen Patty or Jordan, do they still dance here or have moved on to greener pastures?

the lil blond from miami i think her name is either erin or erica, gave a nice dance, but was a waste of time in the CR. the girl is a few fries short of a happy meal, and they dont even let her drink cause she is only 18.

patty was working on saurday night, she said she is working at a new spot in jersey as of late.

chase4u
07-31-2003, 03:51 AM
Thanks for the info edouble, i will have to go on sat now to see Patty, and yes you were right the little blond was not right in the head, she has issues that she has to take care of.

edouble
07-31-2003, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by chase4u
Thanks for the info edouble, i will have to go on sat now to see Patty, and yes you were right the little blond was not right in the head, she has issues that she has to take care of.

she is out of her tits.

funny thing is i have probablly bumped into you and a few of the other regs at this place quite a few times, lol.

salomon
07-31-2003, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by edouble
the lil blond from miami i think her name is either erin or erica, gave a nice dance, but was a waste of time in the CR. the girl is a few fries short of a happy meal, and they dont even let her drink cause she is only 18.


To me she just seemed to be pure Florida trailer park.

chase4u
07-31-2003, 09:39 PM
I was here tonight and i saw Tasty a super cute spanish dancer, she is a blond with a cute compact body and nice real breasts, she gives a great vip dance, but the bad news no extras at this time. The club was a little slow due to the rain and the girls really made the dances worth it, I also recommend the super nice and always hot Ruby, a cant miss vip dancer.

lawyer101
08-01-2003, 06:26 PM
I'm thinking of checking this place out. Do you get better mileage during the lap dances during the week as opposed to the weekend? I assume since its slower during the week this is what happens. Does the place get crowded(as far as customers go) on the weekend? One last thing, Is the parking lot safe for my car? I know that some areas of LIC are not that safe, so this is why I am asking.

salomon
08-01-2003, 08:11 PM
It's easier to get better mileage in the lapdance room when it's empty. Thursday and Friday seem to be the only nights when the club gets somewhat crowded and there are several dances going on simultaneously. Most other nights you can get the room to yourself. There's always the option of the $150 private room.

The parking lot is only big enough for 3 or 4 cars but the street right in front of the club is well lit. I've never had a problem parking there. There are usually smokers and a bouncer going in and out so it's never too deserted. I kept reading about a shooting out there a few months ago but I don't know the details.

busted
08-02-2003, 02:03 AM
Originally posted by salomon
It's easier to get better mileage in the lapdance room when it's empty. Thursday and Friday seem to be the only nights when the club gets somewhat crowded and there are several dances going on simultaneously. Most other nights you can get the room to yourself. There's always the option of the $150 private room.

I kept reading about a shooting out there a few months ago but I don't know the details.

Your right about the days of the week and the use of the LD room. The shooting you refer to was back in Jan or Feb, the reason why I initially stayed away from this place. I believe it was outside the club between two patrons. If you want more info than that, I can ask next time I'm there.

After the dust settled, I starting going near the end of Feb. Impressed by the service but not the girls, I attended about once every 2 weeks. High mileage laps and especially CR for a very reasonable price, I continued to go, it ranked in quality (not quantity to Asscon). Since then, I'd say sometime around April, the new owner turn this club around. Classy women, some even 7-8's, better bar service. This still hasn't increased the crowds (maybe time will); I feel its a better environment and now go probably twice a week, and have a chair with my name on it!

With the changes the price for the CR, like you said, went to $150, and clearly YMMV with the dancers. Since I only sit with Bridget, I'll stab a guess at those that do extras, definitely Rebecca, possibly Ruby, Sarah, definitely not Riley, CJ or Bridget.

As far as parking, I've never had a problem.

Well good luck and happy hobbying

ThisWillHurt
08-02-2003, 09:52 AM
Could a newbie get a bottom line on this place? [especially as the management has "improved," etc] Specifically: LD cost, LD room cost (if any)? Is LD room req'd or is using it merely help with privace and the possibility of increased mileage?

Thanks and sorry if this was answered already, but I only skimmed the older posts and those consisting of cerebral/philosophical/moral musings. But not to say y'all don't rock--if I hadn't found the UG, I might head for the Pair of dice Club.

TWH

busted
08-03-2003, 05:41 AM
Originally posted by ThisWillHurt
Could a newbie get a bottom line on this place? [especially as the management has "improved," etc] Specifically: LD cost, LD room cost (if any)? Is LD room req'd or is using it merely help with privace and the possibility of increased mileage?

Thanks and sorry if this was answered already, but I only skimmed the older posts and those consisting of cerebral/philosophical/moral musings. But not to say y'all don't rock--if I hadn't found the UG, I might head for the Pair of dice Club.

TWH

No cover - Monday-Saturday 6PM-4AM (6-9 is typically dead)

LD in the VIP room - $20/song (5 house - 15 girl)
LD in the Champagne Room - $40 to the house for 20 minutes, tip to the girl is usually $100
YMMV is typical for this place, if the VIP room is empty, with the right girl, extras are available, mostly HR. The Champagne Room is closed door and again YMMV, from a pleasant conversation to whatever you want.

My suggestion is read through the posts, especially the current ones, pick out a girl and try her out. I think you'll know pretty quickly which are to your liking and speed. Then come back and tell us your results. That's the important part of being a newbie, taking many for the team. Rookies' responsibility - right Slinky!

busted
08-03-2003, 05:46 AM
Originally posted by ThisWillHurt
if I hadn't found the UG, I might head for the Pair of dice Club.

TWH

And before you pick on the Paradise Club, a certain amount of respect needs to be issued - they were one of the first "mainstream" clubs to provide contact with their "slowdancing" followed by "dirtydancing". This was in the late 80's, early 90's.

Of course, that was then!

justlooking
08-03-2003, 11:12 AM
I still like the Paradise Club. If you're a regular, it can be pretty great.

busted
08-03-2003, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by justlooking
I still like the Paradise Club. If you're a regular, it can be pretty great.

Haven't been there in about 6-7 years. Any details you can provide would be helpful. As I said, it used to be the place to be, all nude and contact dances, albeit, standing up, but still a good grind!

I've heard something about theme rooms, but nothing ever sparked any interest.

One of the funniest scenes in a strip club I witnessed there. An asian fellow walked in and sat next to us; and like bees to honey, all the girls on stage started walking over. He had a fist full of 5's and every one he handed out, the girl would lie on her back and spread her lips. He would turn on his penlight and shine it in all the right places, giving us all a show!

lawyer101
08-03-2003, 06:31 PM
Can anyone describe what Rebecca & Ruby look like?

chase4u
08-03-2003, 07:39 PM
Ruby is a cute short latin girl with blonde hair, she will give you a great time in the CR and in the vip area, she has been here for a good while now and if you are a regular, i think you can get all the extras you want. Rebecca is a girl i cant seem to remember, so i cant help you with her. but you will enjoy Ruby and dont forget to post the details for us here.

justlooking
08-04-2003, 05:56 AM
This is where this all sort of falls apart, because I don't think an open board like this is the place for me to give details about the Paradise Club. I do use the theme rooms from time to time, though. And the story you told about the Asian guy could still happen there every night.

busted
08-04-2003, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by chase4u
Ruby is a cute short latin girl with blonde hair, she will give you a great time in the CR and in the vip area, she has been here for a good while now and if you are a regular, i think you can get all the extras you want. Rebecca is a girl i cant seem to remember, so i cant help you with her. but you will enjoy Ruby and dont forget to post the details for us here.

Rebecca is a 39 year old spanish woman, great tan, good body, natural B's, heavy accent and great attitude. If you meet her, ask her to describe your cock. She does this thing where she grabs your middle finger and describes it to a tee. She did it with me and 2 of my friends and was right on. I think she could be a real blast in the CR.

JL, your right about not discussing PC on this thread - sorry :(

lawyer101
08-04-2003, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by chase4u
Ruby is a cute short latin girl with blonde hair, she will give you a great time in the CR and in the vip area, she has been here for a good while now and if you are a regular, i think you can get all the extras you want. Rebecca is a girl i cant seem to remember, so i cant help you with her. but you will enjoy Ruby and dont forget to post the details for us here.

Chase,
I am going to try and take a trip down to Infinity next week.
I will definately post a detailed review of Ruby..:)

salomon
08-04-2003, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by steinbuster
Rebecca is a 39 year old spanish woman
Is she really 39? She's younger looking to me. Maybe I'm thinking of a different dancer. Is she the one who usually wears eye makeup that makes her look asian?

busted
08-05-2003, 04:42 AM
Originally posted by salomon
Is she really 39? She's younger looking to me. Maybe I'm thinking of a different dancer. Is she the one who usually wears eye makeup that makes her look asian?

I've been staying up late too much - your right Rebecca is Haitian - its Sarah that's the 39 Y/O PR - sorry about that - Rebecca should be your target for the VIP room if its empty or the CR wouls be the best - my .02

busted
08-05-2003, 04:47 AM
Originally posted by lawyer101
Can anyone describe what Rebecca & Ruby look like?

Rebecca - I actually described Sarah - see previous post - Ruby and Rebecca will be fun - different body styles and personalities - good for variety

edouble
08-05-2003, 07:34 PM
what ever you do stay away from the one bitch that looks like a fucking man. you will no doubt be able to figure it out, tan and its got big boobs and i believe it's brazilian.

Socketome
08-05-2003, 07:49 PM
That's tough, because there's one which looks like she used to be a man, and another one who actually did used to be a man.

edouble
08-05-2003, 08:03 PM
lol i guess you visit this place and know the run down. if you have no clue who the chicks in question are, just ask either bridgete or ruby and they will fill you in.

chase4u
08-18-2003, 09:32 PM
this is for Lawyer101 did you get to "sample" Ruby last week? You said you were going to try her in the CR, how did it go?

lawyer101
08-24-2003, 04:41 AM
I read the entire Infinity thread, and I decided that it was time that I took a visit. I read about all the thugs that hang out there, so I decided that I needed to bring a few friends with me. We arrived at Infinity and I was surprised at how small the 3 spot parking lot was..lol. I was able to park my car in front of Infinity on the street. I was worried about my car being stolen, so I was bothered that I had to park my car on the side of the street. When we entered Infinity we were greeted by the guy up front. We chatted with him for a while. I asked him about the safety of my car, and he said not to worry as they have cameras on the front of the strip club so that they can monitor the cars up front. I gave the guy $50 bucks and I asked him to watch my car, which he agreed to do. I make it a habbit to tip the bouncers at clubs and bars so that they will pay special attention to my car.

We walked into the club and sat down at the bar. We ordered our drinks and we were “ready to go”. I glanced over to the other side of the bar, and I saw approximately 10 guys. I guess these are the guys that were reffered to in this thread as “thugs”. They are harmless. At no time did they present a threat to us. They didn’t bother us, and we didn’t bother them.

Now, onto the dancers. On stage was a “cute” black chick who was “shaking that ass”. All 4 of us “tossed” several dollar bills at her. She came off the stage and closer to us and we started chatting with her. She told us that her name was “Rebbeca”. I was excited because based on the reviews that I have read on here, she is one of the girls that is a “must see”. I have to give “props” to Chase4U and Steinbuster for giving me the “info” on her. She went back on the stage and went over to the other side of the bar to dance for the guys on that side. I started telling one of my friends a story about one of my clients, when I felt someone grab my ass. I turned around and it was a cute blonde girl, who I believe said her name was Alexis. She was “fucked up”. She was definitely “coked up”. She started telling me about her son, Kelvin. She also has his name tatooed on her chest. She was a “cool chick”, but she was having problems keeping up with the conversation. I was trying to ask her how she was in the VIP room, but for some reason she acted as if she had no idea what I was talking about. She then started talking to one of my friends, and she left me alone. At this time, Rebecca came off the stage and I asked her about her VIP lapdances. I told her that I heard that she was a good time. She smiled and said that I had heard right. I asked her what she offered and she told me that I had to pay the $40 up front for the room and then we would work out a tip for her. So this is what we did. We entered the Vip room, which is set up similar to the old X-Dreams lap dance area. It is similar in size, but the leather couches that they have are bigger. I worked out the tip with Rebecca and I told her that I wanted a handjob,some titty-fucking and to 69 with her giving me a handjob for the finale. She tod me that I could fuck her or she could give me a blowjob. I told her that I get that at home, so I was only looking for a handjob. She was pushing me to fuck her, but I wasn’t into doing that in a strip club. We agreed on a price and the session began.

To describe Rebecca, she is 5’6 has shoulder length black hair and a good body. She’s not petite, but by no means is she fat. She is a black “chicky”.

She tells me that I can pull my pants down, but not take them off. I pull my boxers and pants down. Rebecca grabs my cock and tells me how big it is. She was rubbing her hands all over my cock. She then lowers herself and engulfs my cock with her tits. She was rubbing her tits up and down on my cock. My cock felt good between her soft tits….:) This went on for about 5 minutes. She then told me to lay down. She started off by “sitting on my face”. I had full access to her pussy. I was licking it up and down. I was paying special attention to her clit. The only thing that annoyed me was that she didn’t moan or show any reaction while I was doing this. After some time, She positioned herself so that she could give me a handjob as I was eating her pussy. I spread her pussy lips open ,and I started to lick her deep in her pussy. I then went on to tongue fuck her. She started moving her pussy in a circular motion over my face, which was realy turning me on…:) Before long, I was cumming like crazy.

It was a fun dance and I will continue to visit Infinity in the future. Does anyone have any “info” on Alexis? How are her VIP dances? When does Ruby work? I want to try her in the VIP room also..:)

lawyer101
08-24-2003, 04:47 AM
I wanted to meet Bridgette also. When does she work?

nowhere man
08-24-2003, 01:28 PM
I think lawyer 101 failed to mention that his post about Infinity was just a dream. there are no SC in NYC where these things happen.

lawyer101
08-24-2003, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by nowhere man
I think lawyer 101 failed to mention that his post about Infinity was just a dream. there are no SC in NYC where these things happen.

what does that mean?
Have you ever been to Infinity? If not, I suggest that you "check it out".

Casper
08-24-2003, 08:47 PM
Hello Mc Fly.......... sometimes less is more.

busted
08-26-2003, 03:36 AM
Originally posted by lawyer101
I wanted to meet Bridgette also. When does she work?

Bridget is working this week Tues-Fri and maybe Saturday - 8PM till closing, usually 4AM.

As we all know - schedules change, but I think she's commited to all but Sat.

lawyer101
08-26-2003, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by steinbuster
Bridget is working this week Tues-Fri and maybe Saturday - 8PM till closing, usually 4AM.

As we all know - schedules change, but I think she's commited to all but Sat.

Steinbuster,
Thanks for the "info"...:)

busted
08-26-2003, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by lawyer101
Steinbuster,
Thanks for the "info"...:)

Just remember "R-E-S-P-E-C-T", you are dealing with my ATF

Thanks
Stein

lawyer101
08-26-2003, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by steinbuster
Just remember "R-E-S-P-E-C-T", you are dealing with my ATF

Thanks
Stein

lol...she will get nothing but respect from me...:)

chase4u
08-26-2003, 09:04 PM
to Stein, is bridgette doing extras now? i mean i know Ruby does but i thought it was noted that bridgette didnt offer anything more than a great lapdance. Has she changed, i have not been there in a few weeks matter of fact, whats going on there now, is the club better or at the same level as b4?

busted
08-28-2003, 03:06 AM
Originally posted by chase4u
to Stein, is bridgette doing extras now? i mean i know Ruby does but i thought it was noted that bridgette didnt offer anything more than a great lapdance. Has she changed, i have not been there in a few weeks matter of fact, whats going on there now, is the club better or at the same level as b4?

Chase4u

Pretty much the same as before - the new owner, other than being greedy has really stepped up the talent since he took over in April - more girls of higher quality

justlooking
08-28-2003, 05:48 AM
Originally posted by steinbuster
Just remember "R-E-S-P-E-C-T", you are dealing with my ATF

Does that mean that everybody has license to treat all the other strippers there like shit?

[SFSF]

busted
08-29-2003, 06:40 AM
Originally posted by justlooking
Does that mean that everybody has license to treat all the other strippers there like shit?

[SFSF]

I really don't know how to respond to this. Never, never do I ever expect anybody to be mistreated, but there are special people in our lives that we would like to have extra care taken with them.

I apologize if I came across that she should be treated like gold and everyone else be treated like a whore, that wasn't my intent.

There isn't one dancer that would say I treated them like shit, as I'm sure there are quite a few of us who are considerate to those who provide us entertainment. I personally do not know L101, but have never read anything that made me feel that he would mistreat anyone.

If I put the shoe on the other foot, and asked him about his entertainer friend from Gossip, "Does she provide extras?" and he responded, please treat her with respect, I wouldn't feel anything but a caring feeling from him towards that entertainer; not that I was some sort of deviant. I would respond with, a little extra time getting to know her, the additional cocktail, if requested, and maybe a bigger tip. There have been times when you will notice the friend of the enterainer tell the prospective client to say, "Hello from xyz".

Again I apologize if the printed word did not show my feelings, but no malicious intent was planned.

justlooking
08-29-2003, 06:47 AM
(Please not the "[SFSF]*")

* [Stupid Fucking Smiley Face]